Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-28 Thread Josh Luthman
een the images. > > > > > > > > On Dec 26, 2017 12:46 PM, wrote: > > How about putting all the files on network drive/ dropbox/ google drive, > have duplicate boxes always connected to the net so all the files stay in > sync. > > > > Then at least al

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-26 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
ou, Brian Webster *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian (List Account) *Sent:* Tuesday, December 26, 2017 3:02 PM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore So we have a local NAS which is backed up to a couple cloud services. T

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-26 Thread Brian Webster
certainly wish they could all just be run under emulators but alas they won’t. Thank You, Brian Webster From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 3:02 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-26 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
he files stay in > sync. > > Then at least all the configs and data will be fresh and hot standby. > > *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 26, 2017 12:38 PM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore > > Thats sort of

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-26 Thread chuck
, 2017 12:38 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore Thats sort of what I do now, the concern being keeping them in sync. As time goes on machine configs change, bugs are fixed, drivers updated etc.. So I want to be able to make a copy of the image regularly to some

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-26 Thread Mike Hammett
ber 26, 2017 1:42:53 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore Not running a vm so seems not applicable On Dec 26, 2017 12:39 PM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: Have you checked Veeam yet? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutio

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-26 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
tZg> > ------ > *From: *"Forrest Christian (List Account)" > *To: *"af" > *Sent: *Tuesday, December 26, 2017 1:38:29 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore > > Thats sort of what I do now, the concern being

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore Thats sort of what I do now, the concern being keeping them in sync. As time goes on machine configs change, bugs are fixed, drivers updated etc.. So I want to be able to make a copy of the image regularly to some backup medium without going t

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-26 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Thats sort of what I do now, the concern being keeping them in sync. As time goes on machine configs change, bugs are fixed, drivers updated etc.. So I want to be able to make a copy of the image regularly to some backup medium without going through the hassle of starting up the backup machines.

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-26 Thread Josh Luthman
What if you just bought say 2-4 identical new machines at $400 each and then imaged from one to the next. Then just store the extra machines nearby. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Robert wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-23 Thread Robert
Which would be the whole loss of industry that Microsoft was the direct cause of with their moving target of proprietary OS's... I hope the designers of that are headed to perdition of non-installing drivers for eternity... On 12/23/17 9:56 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: There a

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-23 Thread chuck
Ah, I did a ATE relay matrix once using a ISA board. Yep, I guess lots of shift registers and something to feed them. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 10:58 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore Funny you should mention that

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-23 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
ristian (List Account) > *Sent:* Saturday, December 23, 2017 2:18 AM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore > > The machine I am most worried about took about a week to rebuild last time > we had a software issue even with carefully logged instructions. >

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-23 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
There are lots of days that I just want to go buy all new stuff which works consistently on modern hardware. Unfortunately to do so I figure I'd have to triple my prices, at which point no one would buy anything, and the whole issue would be irrelevant. So I'm stuck with a chunk of older equipmen

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-23 Thread chuck
on your products. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 2:18 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore The machine I am most worried about took about a week to rebuild last time we had a software issue even with carefully logged

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-23 Thread Lewis Bergman
We delt with the same thing with radios. Programs requiring a specific window of CPU clock speed to communicate with a device. We had to use an intermediate program loop to slow the CPU down enough to make them work eventually. We ended up with a half dozen old computers around to program various a

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-23 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
The machine I am most worried about took about a week to rebuild last time we had a software issue even with carefully logged instructions. To give everyone an idea about my pain, there are on this machine two particular drivers for two different pieces of hardware. One won't install on anything

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-22 Thread Josh Luthman
How hard is it to just throw in a brand new PC? What if you had the files from the old one? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 22, 2017 5:01 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: If I could put it

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-22 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/22/17 2:01 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: If I could put it on a VM, I would definitely consider it. Unfortunately, due to the fact that these machines are not really 'servers' or 'workstations' but instead 'automation/test platforms', that is not really a possibility.   The

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-22 Thread Nate Burke
It sounds like your biggest concern is a HD failure, or an unexpected software crash/update. A quick amazon search turns up hardware disk duplicators, where you just drop in 2 drives and it clones them. I would think something like that would accomplish what you are trying to go for. I think

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-22 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
If I could put it on a VM, I would definitely consider it. Unfortunately, due to the fact that these machines are not really 'servers' or 'workstations' but instead 'automation/test platforms', that is not really a possibility. The OS on these machines need direct access to the hardware. Often,

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-22 Thread Adam Moffett
nd run 20 VM's. Everything ended up being more reliable, cheaper, and easier to manage. I'm not ever going back. -- Original Message -- From: "Stefan Englhardt" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 12/22/2017 11:03:27 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore Yes. Go virtual

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-22 Thread Josh Luthman
Images for Windows between any two machines simply isn't dependable. DO NOT EXPECT IT TO WORK. Now if you can put all your stuff in a VM, you're set. Put it in Dropbox for a cheap smart (bit change only) backup. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Tro

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-22 Thread Stefan Englhardt
n: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore FYI... Just because Norton Ghost is being discoed, it does not mean that your copy will stop working.     (At the end of the day, these are 'disc duplicators' / bit copiers)     There are a number of Open Source alterna

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-22 Thread Brian Webster
e more traditional files which a normal backup would grab. On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: +1 on Clonezilla. -- Original Message -- From: "Brian Webster" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 12/21/2017 11:18:30 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Computer Im

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-22 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
(List Account)" > To: "af" > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 11:06:30 PM > Subject: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore > Normally backups around here are file-based, I.E. I want to make sure I don't > lose data. > I have a couple of computers now which I real

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-22 Thread Micah Miller
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Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-22 Thread Timothy Steele
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Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-22 Thread Mike Hammett
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Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-22 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
hose are more traditional files which a normal backup would grab. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Adam Moffett >>> wrote: >>> >>>> +1 on Clonezilla. >>>> >>>> >>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-22 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
; > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > >> +1 on Clonezilla. >> >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Brian Webster" >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: 12/21/2017 11:18:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-21 Thread Lewis Bergman
e: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore >>> >>> I have used Clonezilla with good success. They have a live CD version >>> you can burn the image, Linux based and free. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank You, >>> >>> Brian Webster &

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-21 Thread Steve Jones
ams', but those > are more traditional files which a normal backup would grab. > > > > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > >> +1 on Clonezilla. >> >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Brian Webster" &

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-21 Thread George Skorup
2017 at 9:21 PM, Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote: +1 on Clonezilla. -- Original Message -- From: "Brian Webster" mailto:i...@wirelessmapping.com>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 12/21/2017 11:18:30 PM Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-21 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
which a normal backup would grab. On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > +1 on Clonezilla. > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Brian Webster" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 12/21/2017 11:18:30 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image bac

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-21 Thread Adam Moffett
+1 on Clonezilla. -- Original Message -- From: "Brian Webster" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 12/21/2017 11:18:30 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore I have used Clonezilla with good success. They have a live CD version you can burn the image, Linux base

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-21 Thread Brian Webster
: Thursday, December 21, 2017 11:07 PM To: af Subject: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore Normally backups around here are file-based, I.E. I want to make sure I don't lose data. I have a couple of computers now which I really would hate to have to rebuild due to hardware failure. Thes

[AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

2017-12-21 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Normally backups around here are file-based, I.E. I want to make sure I don't lose data. I have a couple of computers now which I really would hate to have to rebuild due to hardware failure. These are generally computers which run a machine, such as the automatic test system and the pick and pla