Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee

2015-09-22 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
> pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote: >> >> Steve is really a IRS agent that is trolling ! >> >> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com >> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 22, 2015 12:23 P

Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee

2015-09-22 Thread Jay Weekley
un...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof *Sent:* Tuesday, September 22, 2015 12:23 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee Why do I suspect Steve is the employee in this story? *From:*Daniel White <mailto:af

Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee

2015-09-22 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 22, 2015 12:26 AM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee > > How do you contract an employee but keep him on the clock during business > hours if the concern is in your attendance polic

Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee

2015-09-22 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
wrote: > Steve is really a IRS agent that is trolling ! > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 22, 2015 12:23 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee > > > &

Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee

2015-09-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
Why do I suspect Steve is the employee in this story? From: Daniel White Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 10:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee Well Steve was pretty vague on this. Here is a good example. When SAF moved into both of their locations

Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee

2015-09-22 Thread Paul McCall
Steve is really a IRS agent that is trolling ! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 12:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee Why do I suspect Steve is the employee in this story? From: Daniel White

Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee

2015-09-22 Thread Chuck McCown
I would fear the IRS and department of labor in your state more than anyone else here. They frown on complex arrangements. Just resell the special service that this employee does. Do the bonus. Keep him regular payroll. No moonlighting policy as a condition of employment. If he needs to

Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee

2015-09-22 Thread can...@believewireless.net
ll: +1 (303) 746-3590 > > Skype: danieldwhite > Social: LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84>: Twitter > <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy > /sarcasm > *Sent:*

Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee

2015-09-22 Thread Daniel White
M To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee pay schedule mainly, substantially more than 10/50 but thats the crux there. He also wont offer that service as an employee directly since he paid for all the training to do it On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:45 AM, CBB

Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee

2015-09-22 Thread James Howard
many hours he bills each pay period. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee I would fear the IRS and department of labor in your state more than anyone else here.

Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee

2015-09-22 Thread Paul McCall
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee You can always pay a bonus for completing a special project. Employees like that because it shows you appreciate them going above and beyond their job description, and in this case, keeps you out of any legal grey areas. Thank you, Daniel White afmu

Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee

2015-09-22 Thread Mike Hammett
" <pa...@pdmnet.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 7:23:22 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee I agree with Daniel. Keep it simple. A bonus system works very well for this scenario. Yes, you have the liability, but you do anyway when it comes down to

Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee

2015-09-22 Thread Lewis Bergman
Wow. Massive can of worms opened. With the current attitude of most employees I think it won't be long before the employee believes his $10 an hour is more like a retainer to show up and be available to bill you $50 an hour for anything he does. I think I would fire him and contract him for $50

Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee

2015-09-22 Thread David
I have to agree with Lewis on this one. I have many skill sets most of which my education and military education have bound me to but that doesnt mean I should quit my job and open my own business and try to survive. I do however appreciate the bonus deal which pays at Christmas time :) On

Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee

2015-09-22 Thread Daniel White
f Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 7:51 AM To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee Wow. Massive can of worms opened. With the current attitude of most employees I think it won't be long before the employee believes his $10 an hour

Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee

2015-09-21 Thread TJ Trout
The basics of employee / contractor is that if you are supplying any tools or supplies for the job or if you are dictating any of the schedule then it's no longer an contractor and should be paid as employee On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:26 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>

Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee

2015-09-21 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
If you do it, can you move liability to the employee, since he's still on your clock also. On Sep 22, 2015 12:26 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > How do you contract an employee but keep him on the clock during business > hours if the concern is in your attendance

Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee

2015-09-21 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
om Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee How do you contract an employee but keep him on the clock during business hours if the concern is in your attendance policy and you don't want to poss off the other employees by letting him off al

Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee

2015-09-21 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
How do you contract an employee but keep him on the clock during business hours if the concern is in your attendance policy and you don't want to poss off the other employees by letting him off all the time. On Sep 22, 2015 12:23 AM, "TJ Trout" wrote: > I tried my best to

[AFMUG] Contracting an employee

2015-09-21 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
So if you have an employee who offers a service that you do not, but works a 40 on your clock how would you handle subcontracting his services on your clock? Just for easy numbers, say he's a ten dollar employee, but he bills at fifty. You need his services during business hours. You need to bill

Re: [AFMUG] Contracting an employee

2015-09-21 Thread TJ Trout
I tried my best to comprehend your question / rant, but after several tries I realized your speaking in poop On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:16 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > So if you have an employee who offers a service that you do not, but works > a 40 on your