Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-30 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Yeah, that is a good point! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Roger Timmerman Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 1:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI Sterling, yes the Vivint discussions are interesting, especially the Linkedin one. As you have noticed, I

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-29 Thread Sterling Jacobson
: Thursday, May 28, 2015 6:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI I have sourced optics from these and several other Chinese and European manufacturers. I even have a couple different SFP/SFP+/XFP/QSFP coders so that I can overwrite their firmwares to be compatible with different

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-29 Thread Mike Hammett
- Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 9:02:58 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI I will agree that their software development process is greatly lacking quality control, having said that I am not sure

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-29 Thread Mike Hammett
- Original Message - From: Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 1:54:37 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI I've had some issues with Occam compatible SFPs in RB260gs units - they would work, but you would have to unplug them and plug

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-29 Thread Roger Timmerman
source. Your markups were HUGE man! Good to get them while you can I guess. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Roger Timmerman *Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2015 6:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI I have sourced optics from

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-28 Thread Sterling Jacobson
] On Behalf Of Steve Utick Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI And, you said you've been using these successfully in MikroTik gear, correct? What do you usually see for shipping times form China to the US from them? Thanks. On Thu, May 28, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-28 Thread George Skorup
the generic ones too. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie *Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:55 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI I've had some issues with Occam compatible SFPs in RB260gs units - they would work, but you would have to unplug them

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-28 Thread Jason McKemie
...@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie *Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:55 PM *To:* af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI I've had some issues with Occam compatible SFPs

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-28 Thread Steve Utick
and they will be granted (minus the gazillion dollar markups that everyone takes between here and China). *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2015 5:16 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI 6COM and GigaLight

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-28 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - From: George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 6:41:37 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI So what you're saying is... MikroTik stuff isn't all that reliable? ;) On 5/28

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-28 Thread Jason McKemie
:55 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI Nice. $30-50 an end ain't bad. BUT.. will it work in a MikroTik!? On 5/27/2015 8:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: also... http://www.sfpex.com/bidi-sfp/1g-bidi Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-28 Thread Bill Prince
, 2015 12:55 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI I've had some issues with Occam compatible SFPs in RB260gs units - they would work, but you would have to unplug them and plug them back in while the unit was powered up to get them to link. So if the Mikrotik loses power

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-28 Thread Sterling Jacobson
, email Mr. Wang your SFP wishes and they will be granted (minus the gazillion dollar markups that everyone takes between here and China). From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 5:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI 6COM

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-28 Thread Sterling Jacobson
the generic ones too. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI I've had some issues with Occam compatible SFPs in RB260gs units - they would work, but you would have to unplug them

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-28 Thread Bill Prince
the generic ones too. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie *Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:55 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI I've had some issues with Occam compatible SFPs in RB260gs units - they would work, but you would have

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-28 Thread Roger Timmerman
...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie *Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:55 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI I've had some issues with Occam compatible SFPs in RB260gs units - they would work, but you would have to unplug them and plug them back in while

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-28 Thread Stefan Englhardt
I'll stick to my original statement. The benefit of running a MikroTik router or switch is they're generally fine for our purposes and cheap to replace when they fail. We use them a lot and are happy and frustrated with them at the same day. Problem is there attitude towards quality. You see

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-28 Thread Mike Hammett
: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 11:57:35 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI What company are you buying them from in China if I may ask? Currently looking for a BIDI optics vendor myself. Thanks. On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net wrote

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-28 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:38:47 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI I'll stick to my original statement. The benefit of running a MikroTik router or switch is they're generally fine for our purposes and cheap to replace when they fail. We use them a lot

[AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-27 Thread Nate Burke
Is there a MultiMode BIDI SFP? I need to run a connection across a warehouse, they have 3 pair of multimode fiber, but all 3 are already in use. They won't let me tunnel connections together, because that would be touching 'their' network, but I could probably talk them into using only a

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-27 Thread Bill Prince
I've seen the same thing. All BIDI interfaces need single mode as best as I can tell. That might have changed my decision to use multimode in a few cases. These days, I don't think there is any good reason to use multimode any more. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 5/27/2015 12:07 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-27 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
Here’s a random thought.. what if you used a mode-conditioned cable on both sides with a Singlemode BiDi SFP? On May 27, 2015, at 1:07 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote: Is there a MultiMode BIDI SFP? I need to run a connection across a warehouse, they have 3 pair of multimode

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-27 Thread Nate Burke
I've seen those, and wondered if they would work. On 5/27/2015 2:52 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: Here�s a random thought.. what if you used a mode-conditioned cable on both sides with a Singlemode BiDi SFP? On May 27, 2015, at 1:07 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote: Is there a

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-27 Thread Mike Hammett
If not, try a passive CWDM multimode system. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 2:07:41 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Massive bulk in data centers = multimode The rest = single mode That's how I remember it Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen the same thing. All BIDI

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-27 Thread Paul Stewart
: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 3:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI Massive bulk in data centers = multimode The rest = single mode That's how I remember it Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-27 Thread Sterling Jacobson
232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 11:25:56 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI They work with Cisco if you disable the the unsupported

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-27 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI Nice. $30-50 an end ain't bad. BUT.. will it work in a MikroTik!? On 5/27/2015 8:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: also... http://www.sfpex.com/bidi-sfp/1g-bidi Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-27 Thread Jason Pond
You can use singlemode bidi modules on multimode fiber they do work we have them running 1500ft+ on multimode fiber and able to get 800Mb/s+ Full Duplex. MT Single mode Bidi SFP into CRS switches. Sincerely, Jason Pond On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote: Is

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-27 Thread Josh Baird
: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - From: George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 9:44:55 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI Nice. $30-50 an end ain't bad. BUT.. will it work in a MikroTik!? On 5/27/2015 8:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-27 Thread George Skorup
On 5/27/2015 10:45 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: There are only a hand full of actual MFG who make the optics, everything else is branding .:) While there are many things that can go wrong with SFP's, but I can assure you Packet Loss / CRC / FCS are not due to SFP module compatibility with the

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-27 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - From: Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 11:25:56 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI They work with Cisco if you disable

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-27 Thread George Skorup
2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 9:23:30 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI Nate, If you are not able to locate the MM Bidi SFP's, you might want to try the SMF Bidi

Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI

2015-05-27 Thread Roger Timmerman
...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Wednesday, May 27, 2015 3:50 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI Massive bulk in data centers = multimode The rest = single mode That's how I remember it Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552