Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-10-25 Thread Daniel White
uesday, October 25, 2016 7:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector Does wideband include 4.9ghz? On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Daniel White <afmu...@gmail.com <mailto:afmu...@gmail.com> > wrote: Some thoughts… - 450i SM was never intend

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-10-25 Thread Mathew Howard
; >> Seems like there would be some heat dissipation issues doing that with >> 450/450i electronics. >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup >> *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 5:38 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com &

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-10-25 Thread Sean Heskett
n similar to the >> Force 180 >> >> >> >> Daniel White >> >> Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales >> >> ConVergence Technologies >> >> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 >> >> dwh...@converge-tech.com >&

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-10-25 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
.com > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 6:49 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector > > > > And if you want to run your 450i AP in 5.1-5.3 GHz, the only SM cho

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-10-25 Thread Daniel White
ConVergence Technologies Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 <mailto:dwh...@converge-tech.com> dwh...@converge-tech.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 6:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector And if you want

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-10-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
un...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 5:38 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector The 110 and 450d is the sub-reflector assembly type. The Force200 took the electronics into the feed and dipole at the

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-10-24 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
onday, October 24, 2016 5:38 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector > > > > The 110 and 450d is the sub-reflector assembly type. The Force200 took the > electronics into the feed and dipole at the end. > > On 10/24/2016 5:11 PM, Ken Hohhof wro

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-10-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 5:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector The 110 and 450d is the sub-reflector assembly type. The Force200 took the electronics into the feed and dipole at the end. On 10/24/2016 5:11 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: What’s the difference between

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-10-24 Thread Daniel White
George Skorup Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 3:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector I believe that's the idea, yes. Be interesting to see how they cram all of the guts onto a board at the Force200 size integrated feed tube dipole setup. I guess it doesn't have to be e

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-10-24 Thread George Skorup
. Is it a cost thing? *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 4:43 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector I believe that's the idea, yes. Be interesting to see how they cram all of the guts onto a board

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-10-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
mug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector Does the 450D have the exact same internal PCB board has original 450SM's? Reason I am asking is does the 45D have capability of getting more throughput to each individual SM vs the original 450 which capped ou

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-10-24 Thread George Skorup
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector Does the 450D have the exact same internal PCB board has original 450SM's? Reason I am asking is does the 45D have capability of getting more throughput to each individual SM vs the original

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-10-24 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
450i SM which >> AFAIK still comes only in connectorized and integrated panel versions and >> costs $$$. >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser >> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 9:49 AM >

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-10-24 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
versions and > costs $$$. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser > *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 9:49 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector > > > > Does the 450D have the exact same intern

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-10-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
> does away with the SM licensing model Ding dong the witch is dead. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joe Novak Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 10:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector There is a new line up coming for 450i based boa

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-10-24 Thread George Skorup
...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 9:49 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector Does the 450D have the exact same internal PCB board has original 450SM's? Reason I am asking is does the 45D have capability of getting more

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-10-24 Thread Joe Novak
3db more signal with them vs a standard sm with > reflector? > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:51 AM, SmarterBroadband < > li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote: > > We use them a lot. Most installs. > > Adam > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:a

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-10-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
AFAIK still comes only in connectorized and integrated panel versions and costs $$$. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 9:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector Does the 450D have the exact same

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-10-24 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
arterBroadband < > li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote: > >> We use them a lot. Most installs. >> >> Adam >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Daniel White >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2016 8:13 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-08-25 Thread Matt
*On Behalf Of *Daniel White > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2016 8:13 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector > > > > Personally I like them. Reflectors and the classic Canopy case SM’s are > certainly more popular though. > > > > There a

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-06-28 Thread Ken Hohhof
If I remember right, the 3 GHz integrated panel versions are 130M. From: George Skorup Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 10:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector The 450d gets a free upgrade 40Mbps with 14.1.1+. I'm guessing they didn't do that with the 3GHz integrated

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-06-28 Thread George Skorup
com> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *timothy steele *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:06 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector Looks like power and gain are the same but the 450d has more of a narrow antenna pattern then using a dish so I would

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-06-28 Thread Daniel White
ConVergence Technologies Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 <mailto:dwh...@converge-tech.com> dwh...@converge-tech.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of timothy steele Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector Looks like

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-06-28 Thread timothy steele
Looks like power and gain are the same but the 450d has more of a narrow antenna pattern then using a dish so I would expect to see better results don't have 1 to try though.. On Tue, Jun 28, 2016, 5:55 PM Jon Langeler wrote: > Someone bought one that's not

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-06-28 Thread Jon Langeler
Someone bought one that's not government? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Jun 28, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Matt wrote: > > Has anyone compared a PMP450d to a PMP450 5ghz SM with reflector? I > have a problem CPE I need just a bit more gain and wandered if

[AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

2016-06-28 Thread Matt
Has anyone compared a PMP450d to a PMP450 5ghz SM with reflector? I have a problem CPE I need just a bit more gain and wandered if that will get me over the hump. What about a 3.65 SM with reflector vs the PMP450 3.6 with integrated antenna?