Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-20 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I knew cable would pop up :) - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end in regards to your points. 1) Yes, that is true --> and the rea

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-20 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
You didn't mention cable in this discussion. Am I missing something? - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end The ILECs are focusing on

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-20 Thread Mike Hammett
2:42:24 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end Are we being Legal Definition accurate ? or being colloquial ? >The USF is not and was not and never will be a public subsidy. ??? it is a mandatory "Contribution" to the FCC's Slush Fund,

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-20 Thread Mike Hammett
ct: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end And as has been previously noted, practically issued a recall notice on the Death Star for being unprofitable or plane to much trouble. Not sure which. I just know they have scaled back or called off most expansion plans. But, t

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-20 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
3 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - > From: "Chuck McCown" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 3:55:52 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end >

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-20 Thread Ken Hohhof
wireless infrastructure? New kids book: If You Give An ILEC A Cookie -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 2:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end Publ

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-20 Thread Chuck McCown
: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end Are we being Legal Definition accurate ? or being colloquial ? The USF is not and was not and never will be a public subsidy. ??? it is a mandatory "Contribution" to the FCC's Slush Fund, on all providers, who (the telco&#x

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-20 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
p...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - > From: "Chuck McCown" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 9:39:31 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end > The USF is not and was not and never will be a public subs

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-20 Thread Bill Prince
: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end “Now, witness the power of this fully operational battle station.” Said Verizon when FIOS was launched... -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 8:38 AM To: af@afmug.com <ma

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-20 Thread Chuck McCown
very end But AT&T is the Death Star. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 9:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end “Now, witness the power of this f

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-20 Thread Lewis Bergman
And as has been previously noted, practically issued a recall notice on the Death Star for being unprofitable or plane to much trouble. Not sure which. I just know they have scaled back or called off most expansion plans. But, they are still cherry picking businesses and so forth, just not doing an

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-20 Thread Lewis Bergman
While the rest is true, I squeezed in under a little known ( or applied ) RCC ruling when the FCC ruled that Two Way radio providers that used their licensed frequencies to sell airtime services to customers were RCCs. All of that was technically exactly correct. Being so small we were exempt from

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-20 Thread Ken Hohhof
But AT&T is the Death Star. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 9:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end “Now, witness the power of this f

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-20 Thread Rory Conaway
6 8:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end "And I watch the WISPs come from zero to the current state complaining the whole time of the inherent advantages of the incumbent." Well it's easier to motivate yourself if the

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-20 Thread Chuck McCown
“Now, witness the power of this fully operational battle station.” Said Verizon when FIOS was launched... -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 8:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end "And I

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-20 Thread Adam Moffett
"And I watch the WISPs come from zero to the current state complaining the whole time of the inherent advantages of the incumbent." Well it's easier to motivate yourself if the narrative is that you're fighting the Death Star than if the narrative is "Fighting against another local company w

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-20 Thread Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 8:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end Your argument that USF is not a tax but a user fee paid by users of the PSTN could be used to argue that sales tax is not a tax, it is a user fee paid by users of goods

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-20 Thread Ken Hohhof
: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end The USF is not and was not and never will be a public subsidy. It is a replacement for money that was taken away from the ILECS. Some of that money was originally the AT&T "line haul" settlements and

[AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-20 Thread Chuck McCown
: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 7:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end The USF is not and was not and never will be a public subsidy. It is a replacement for money that was taken away from the ILECS. Some of that money was originally the AT&T &

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-20 Thread Chuck McCown
ining the whole time of the inherent advantages of the incumbent. Sour Grapes. -Original Message- From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 5:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end But really, would Wal-Mart be happy about givi

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-19 Thread Mike Hammett
tiaz" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 6:19:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end Educate and share point of view, I can Change someone's point of view, I cannot... Each one of us chooses to 'see' the history

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-19 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
iami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Mike Hammett" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 6:49:26 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-19 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
ay, December 19, 2016 3:09:26 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end > CLECs were never really able to make any decent money from the get go. By > design in my opinion. > But really, would Wal-Mart be happy about giving up some prime shelf space &g

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-19 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
anies don't overbuild each other. I think when the govt > broke up Ma Bell, they expected the RBOCs to build into each others > territories > and compete for local wireline customers. > > > -Original Message----- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-19 Thread Mike Hammett
05 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 6:09:37 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end The more f

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-19 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
pytelecom.net > From: "Mike Hammett" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 6:09:37 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end > The more fiber companies bought, the more that start up. Not 1:1, but it's > happening. Le

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-19 Thread Mike Hammett
t Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Faisal Imtiaz" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:43:31 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end Yes, Mike whil

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-19 Thread Chuck McCown
Damn, hard to dress for Wal-Mart these days... -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end On 12/19/16 12:09, Chuck McCown wrote: CLECs were never really able

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-19 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/19/16 12:09, Chuck McCown wrote: CLECs were never really able to make any decent money from the get go. By design in my opinion. But really, would Wal-Mart be happy about giving up some prime shelf space for some dollar store product?

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-19 Thread Chuck McCown
: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end I don't think the "sharing" thing was ever the real objection. Everyone talks like they had to let CLECs use their copper pairs for free, bu

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
customers. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end On 12/19/16 10:11, Chuck McCown wrote: > The ILECs are focusin

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-19 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/19/16 10:11, Chuck McCown wrote: The ILECs are focusing on fiber for several reasons: 1)Dramatic loss of land line only customers due to cell phones. 2)Loss of DSL customers to WISP due to long and poor copper. 3)It is a good way to put more rate of return investment dollars in

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-19 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
gt; To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:11:14 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end > The ILECs are focusing on fiber for several reasons: > 1) Dramatic loss of land line only customers due to cell phones. > 2) Loss of DSL customer

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
ould definitely provoke a response, if only some symbolic fiber deployments to mark their territory. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-19 Thread Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end Yes, that is also true so here is the chicken or the egg question... Did the ILEC's focus on fiber (specifically Ethernet) when they were told by the FCC that they

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-19 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
05 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Mike Hammett" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:45:21 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end > I'm fine with the

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-19 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
l: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Chuck McCown" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:02:21 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end > All the ILECs I kn

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end All the ILECs I know are focused on FTTH, not wireless. _ From: "Faisal Imtiaz" mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 9:40:27 A

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-19 Thread Chuck McCown
All the ILECs I know are focused on FTTH, not wireless. From: "Faisal Imtiaz" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 9:40:27 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to th

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-19 Thread Mike Hammett
e Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Faisal Imtiaz" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 9:40:27 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end While I realize that someone of you have an incredibly deep rooted 'hatred&#x

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-19 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
gt; Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 1:29:01 PM > Subject: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end > http://www.forbes.com/sites/fredcampbell/2016/12/14/democratic-fcc-just-committed-trump-administration-to-no-bid-foreign-contract/#2d6d524b2471 > Good to see our boy leaving a

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-18 Thread Jaime Solorza
Aah tweeter this... https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/television/2016/12/18/very-putin-trump-christmas-snl-cold-open/3TkVr56LsxUppQBOAnKwXP/story.html On Dec 18, 2016 11:29 AM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > http://www.forbes.com/sites/fredcampbell/2016/12/14/ > democratic-fcc-just-committed-trump-admin

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
week in airline ticket tax revenue. OK, they are saying they will keep the part that sells spectrum licenses. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Milholen Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 4:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-18 Thread Lewis Bergman
gt; Behalf Of *Erich Kaiser > *Sent:* Sunday, December 18, 2016 1:16 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end > > > > What is really obsurd is this new Overtime rule change for 2017. When I > was running my WISP in the past it

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-18 Thread David Milholen
Saw this writing on the wall since he changed the definition of BROADBAND so we(the little guy) couldnt contest areas we already cover. All I know is that the FCC better not dick with my AMC's "THE WALKING DEAD" I am hoping there will be an influence to push FCC to take a closer look at the in

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-18 Thread Bill Prince
ohhof *Sent:* Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:35 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end I think it makes sense to index rules like this to inflation. But we didn’t have 100% inflation from 2004 to 2016. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-18 Thread Chuck McCown
The rule did not go through did it? From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end I think it makes sense to index rules like this to inflation. But we didn’t have 100% inflation from 2004 to

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-18 Thread Keefe John
;Erich Kaiser" <mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 12/18/2016 2:15:53 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end What is really obsurd is this new Overtime rule change for 2017. When I was running my WI

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-18 Thread Adam Moffett
ps://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> -------- From: "Rory Conaway" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:29:01 PM Subject: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end http://www.f

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
ISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "Rory Conaway" mailto:r...@triadwireless.net> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:29:01 PM S

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-18 Thread Erich Kaiser
> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -------------- > *From: *"Rory Conaway" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:29:01 PM > *Subject: *[AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end > &g

Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-18 Thread Mike Hammett
away" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:29:01 PM Subject: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end http://www.forbes.com/sites/fredcampbell/2016/12/14/democratic-fcc-just-committed-trump-administration-to-no-bid-foreign-contract/#2d6d524b2471 Good

[AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end

2016-12-18 Thread Rory Conaway
http://www.forbes.com/sites/fredcampbell/2016/12/14/democratic-fcc-just-committed-trump-administration-to-no-bid-foreign-contract/#2d6d524b2471 Good to see our boy leaving a legacy that reflects what his leadership has been all about. I wonder who got paid back for this contract. Rory