I knew cable would pop up :)
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From: Faisal Imtiaz
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:29 PM
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in regards to your points.
1) Yes, that is true --> and the rea
You didn't mention cable in this discussion. Am I missing something?
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From: Chuck McCown
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:11 PM
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The ILECs are focusing on
2:42:24 PM
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Are we being Legal Definition accurate ? or being colloquial ?
>The USF is not and was not and never will be a public subsidy.
??? it is a mandatory "Contribution" to the FCC's Slush Fund,
ct: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end
And as has been previously noted, practically issued a recall notice on the
Death Star for being unprofitable or plane to much trouble. Not sure which. I
just know they have scaled back or called off most expansion plans. But, t
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> From: "Chuck McCown"
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 3:55:52 PM
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wireless infrastructure?
New kids book: If You Give An ILEC A Cookie
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 2:56 PM
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Publ
: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end
Are we being Legal Definition accurate ? or being colloquial ?
The USF is not and was not and never will be a public subsidy.
??? it is a mandatory "Contribution" to the FCC's Slush Fund, on all
providers, who (the telco
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> From: "Chuck McCown"
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 9:39:31 AM
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> The USF is not and was not and never will be a public subs
: af@afmug.com
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“Now, witness the power of this fully operational battle station.”
Said Verizon when FIOS was launched...
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From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 8:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com <ma
very end
But AT&T is the Death Star.
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 9:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
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“Now, witness the power of this f
And as has been previously noted, practically issued a recall notice on the
Death Star for being unprofitable or plane to much trouble. Not sure which.
I just know they have scaled back or called off most expansion plans. But,
they are still cherry picking businesses and so forth, just not doing an
While the rest is true, I squeezed in under a little known ( or applied )
RCC ruling when the FCC ruled that Two Way radio providers that used their
licensed frequencies to sell airtime services to customers were RCCs. All
of that was technically exactly correct. Being so small we were exempt from
But AT&T is the Death Star.
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 9:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
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“Now, witness the power of this f
6 8:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com
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"And I watch the WISPs come from zero to the current state complaining the
whole time of the inherent advantages of the incumbent."
Well it's easier to motivate yourself if the
“Now, witness the power of this fully operational battle station.”
Said Verizon when FIOS was launched...
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From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 8:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com
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"And I
"And I watch the WISPs come from zero to the current state complaining
the whole time of the inherent advantages of the incumbent."
Well it's easier to motivate yourself if the narrative is that you're
fighting the Death Star than if the narrative is "Fighting against
another local company w
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 8:18 AM
To: af@afmug.com
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Your argument that USF is not a tax but a user fee paid by users of the PSTN
could be used to argue that sales tax is not a tax, it is a user fee paid by
users of goods
: af@afmug.com
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The USF is not and was not and never will be a public subsidy. It is a
replacement for money that was taken away from the ILECS. Some of that money
was originally the AT&T "line haul" settlements and
: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 7:39 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end
The USF is not and was not and never will be a public subsidy. It is a
replacement for money that was taken away from the ILECS. Some of that
money was originally the AT&T &
ining the
whole time of the inherent advantages of the incumbent.
Sour Grapes.
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From: Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 5:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
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But really, would Wal-Mart be happy about givi
tiaz"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 6:19:02 PM
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Educate and share point of view, I can
Change someone's point of view, I cannot...
Each one of us chooses to 'see' the history
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> From: "Mike Hammett"
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 6:49:26 PM
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ay, December 19, 2016 3:09:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end
> CLECs were never really able to make any decent money from the get go. By
> design in my opinion.
> But really, would Wal-Mart be happy about giving up some prime shelf space
&g
anies don't overbuild each other. I think when the govt
> broke up Ma Bell, they expected the RBOCs to build into each others
> territories
> and compete for local wireline customers.
>
>
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> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth
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From: "Mike Hammett"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 6:09:37 PM
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The more f
pytelecom.net
> From: "Mike Hammett"
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 6:09:37 PM
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> The more fiber companies bought, the more that start up. Not 1:1, but it's
> happening. Le
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From: "Faisal Imtiaz"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:43:31 AM
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Yes, Mike whil
Damn, hard to dress for Wal-Mart these days...
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From: Seth Mattinen
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com
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On 12/19/16 12:09, Chuck McCown wrote:
CLECs were never really able
On 12/19/16 12:09, Chuck McCown wrote:
CLECs were never really able to make any decent money from the get go.
By design in my opinion.
But really, would Wal-Mart be happy about giving up some prime shelf
space for some dollar store product?
: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:58 PM
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I don't think the "sharing" thing was ever the real objection. Everyone
talks like they had to let CLECs use their copper pairs for free, bu
customers.
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:35 PM
To: af@afmug.com
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On 12/19/16 10:11, Chuck McCown wrote:
> The ILECs are focusin
On 12/19/16 10:11, Chuck McCown wrote:
The ILECs are focusing on fiber for several reasons:
1)Dramatic loss of land line only customers due to cell phones.
2)Loss of DSL customers to WISP due to long and poor copper.
3)It is a good way to put more rate of return investment dollars in
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> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:11:14 PM
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> The ILECs are focusing on fiber for several reasons:
> 1) Dramatic loss of land line only customers due to cell phones.
> 2) Loss of DSL customer
ould definitely provoke a response, if
only some symbolic fiber deployments to mark their territory.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:35 AM
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Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:34 AM
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Yes, that is also true so here is the chicken or the egg question...
Did the ILEC's focus on fiber (specifically Ethernet) when they were told by
the FCC that they
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> From: "Mike Hammett"
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> I'm fine with the
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> From: "Chuck McCown"
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:02:21 AM
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> All the ILECs I kn
: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end
All the ILECs I know are focused on FTTH, not wireless.
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From: "Faisal Imtiaz" mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 9:40:27 A
All the ILECs I know are focused on FTTH, not wireless.
From: "Faisal Imtiaz"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 9:40:27 AM
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e Brothers WISP
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From: "Faisal Imtiaz"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 9:40:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end
While I realize that someone of you have an incredibly deep rooted 'hatred
gt; Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 1:29:01 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/fredcampbell/2016/12/14/democratic-fcc-just-committed-trump-administration-to-no-bid-foreign-contract/#2d6d524b2471
> Good to see our boy leaving a
Aah tweeter this...
https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/television/2016/12/18/very-putin-trump-christmas-snl-cold-open/3TkVr56LsxUppQBOAnKwXP/story.html
On Dec 18, 2016 11:29 AM, "Rory Conaway" wrote:
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/fredcampbell/2016/12/14/
> democratic-fcc-just-committed-trump-admin
week in airline ticket tax
revenue. OK, they are saying they will keep the part that sells spectrum
licenses.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Milholen
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 4:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
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gt; Behalf Of *Erich Kaiser
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 18, 2016 1:16 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end
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>
>
> What is really obsurd is this new Overtime rule change for 2017. When I
> was running my WISP in the past it
Saw this writing on the wall since he changed the definition of
BROADBAND so we(the little guy) couldnt contest areas we already cover.
All I know is that the FCC better not dick with my AMC's "THE WALKING DEAD"
I am hoping there will be an influence to push FCC to take a closer look
at the in
ohhof
*Sent:* Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:35 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
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I think it makes sense to index rules like this to inflation. But we
didn’t have 100% inflation from 2004 to 2016.
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
The rule did not go through did it?
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:35 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end
I think it makes sense to index rules like this to inflation. But we didn’t
have 100% inflation from 2004 to
;Erich Kaiser" <mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com>>
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Sent: 12/18/2016 2:15:53 PM
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What is really obsurd is this new Overtime rule change for 2017.
When I was running my WI
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From: "Rory Conaway"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:29:01 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end
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To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
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> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
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> *From: *"Rory Conaway"
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:29:01 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end
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&g
away"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:29:01 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] T-Tommy Wheeler staying corrupt to the very end
http://www.forbes.com/sites/fredcampbell/2016/12/14/democratic-fcc-just-committed-trump-administration-to-no-bid-foreign-contract/#2d6d524b2471
Good
http://www.forbes.com/sites/fredcampbell/2016/12/14/democratic-fcc-just-committed-trump-administration-to-no-bid-foreign-contract/#2d6d524b2471
Good to see our boy leaving a legacy that reflects what his leadership has been
all about. I wonder who got paid back for this contract.
Rory
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