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poRQYNyLwntZg> > ---------- > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Friday, September 29, 2017 10:33:10 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? > > They have been working on the fixe

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Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: "Mathew Howard" < mhoward...@gmail.com > To: "af" < af@afmug.com > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 10:22:38 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wann

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TCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE > Total Highspeed Internet Services > 417.851.1107 > > - Original Message - > From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> > To: "af" <af@afmug.com> > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 10:22:38 AM > Subject: Re:

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m> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 10:22:38 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? Well, if that's what they want to do... all I can say is, good luck with that! I realize AT the only option in a lot of areas, but anywhere that they have any real competition (whether that be cabl

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ktechs.net> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 7:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? Oh look... AT Inc. and other broadband providers asked the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn the Obama-era "

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-- *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, September 28, 2017 1:22:48 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? If they don’t know BIAS is not really in play then once you get the permit you are golden. Cell phone providers are not CLECs and they get in

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: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? But if you have a CLEC you *CAN* place it there. If I don't have a CLEC I *MAY* place it there... if whomever owns that easement or property allows me to. - Mike Hammett Intelligent

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agree with you. -- Original Message -- From: "George Skorup" <george.sko...@cbcast.com <mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 9/28/2017 1:25:29 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? I thoug

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, September 28, 2017 12:57:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? No, I don’t have a CLEC for the non reg stuff. You always have to get permission from the property owner, it may be a public street but the city still has to grant an excavation or together permit. Many times

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:57:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? No, I don’t have a CLEC for the non reg stuff. You always have to get permission from the property owner, it may be a public street but the city still has to grant an excavation or together permit. Many times there is a public

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, 2017 8:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? But if you have a CLEC you *CAN* place it there. If I don't have a CLEC I *MAY* place it there... if whomever owns that easement or property allows me to. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

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ions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Josh Reynolds" < j...@kyneticwifi.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 9:14:28 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? The whole idea of a CLEC needs to die, and only serves t

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up in your mouth? I guess I thought Long Lines was a DOD project.but I might have invented that idea. -- Original Message -- From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> Sent: 9/28/2017 11:59:35 AM Subject: Re: [AFM

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8:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? But if you have a CLEC you *CAN* place it there. If I don't have a CLEC I *MAY* place it there... if whomever owns that easement or property allows me to. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest

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That's half the appointments in government. There's two classifications of SES positions, one is a career appointment, and one is political. Political appointments normally change with executive branch changes. Career appointments can't be removed really from SES, but they can be transitioned to

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getting fired leaves bad tastes in the mouth On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: > from the bottom of the article it says the author is... > > "*Gigi Sohn served as **c**ounselor to former FCC chairman Tom Wheeler > from November 2013 to December 2016**."* > >

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from the bottom of the article it says the author is... "*Gigi Sohn served as **c**ounselor to former FCC chairman Tom Wheeler from November 2013 to December 2016**."* so yeah of course she isn't going to like what Pai is doing lol -Sean On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Steve Jones

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as written on the internet so there’s no question that everything they > say is true! > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:17 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wanna th

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It was written on the internet so there's no question that everything they say is true! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? Oh damn... http

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--- >> From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> Sent: 9/28/2017 11:59:35 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? >> >> out of curiousity, did AT build out long l

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s was a DOD project.but I might have > invented that idea. > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Sent: 9/28/2017 11:59:35 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna

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I guess I thought Long Lines was a DOD project.but I might have invented that idea. -- Original Message -- From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> Sent: 9/28/2017 11:59:35 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wa

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I LOL at "Make ROW great again" -- Original Message -- From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> Sent: 9/28/2017 11:45:17 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? you should protest this.

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herswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -------------- > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Thursday, September 28, 2017 9:14:28 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG

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- From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 9:14:28 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? The whole idea of a CLEC needs to die, and only serves to continue to divide the providers into classes. On Sep

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t; <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ---------- > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com

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- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 9:03:01 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? If you do not have an easement, you do not have the right to keep your cable there. Most easements I get are free. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday

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If you do not have an easement, you do not have the right to keep your cable there. Most easements I get are free. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:02 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? Sure, easements are insurance, but not always

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: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? CLEC is no insurance. ROW-Easement is insurance. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? A couple thousand dollars for an attorney to make you a CLEC

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brotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:46:43 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFM

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CLEC is no insurance. ROW-Easement is insurance. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? A couple thousand dollars for an attorney to make you a CLEC is pretty cheap insurance when doling out fiber

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sh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:46:43 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? We did at our fiber company. I don't remember the exact percentage, but I do remember it being above 60% of people only have a

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Qv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> -- *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:33:20 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? If I'm wrong, say so, but NN seems to be the only thing ke

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Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:33:20 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? If I'm wrong, say so, but NN seems to be the

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.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? A few years ago Netflix colo'd their CDN servers in a Comcast data center to resolve an overloaded peering issue. Performance improved for Netflix users served by t

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-- > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Wednesday, September 27, 2017 9:30:44 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? > > There's some points that are obviously wrong, and some that are not. > >

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t; <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 11:26:26 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? I'd think the big guys getting greedy (and being allowed to do as they wish with their networks) would only help the smaller providers. It's certainly p

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27, 2017 9:30:44 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? There's some points that are obviously wrong, and some that are not. Also, as consumers, if net neutrality is repealed we are fucked. On Sep 27, 2017 8:27 PM, "Steve Jones" < thatoneguyst...

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korup" <george.sko...@cbcast.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 9/28/2017 1:25:29 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? I thought half or most of the issue was the "edge providers"? Consumer wants edge providers' content. Edge provider makes money from the consumer

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Shut up george, dont make logical sense On Sep 28, 2017 12:25 AM, "George Skorup" wrote: > I thought half or most of the issue was the "edge providers"? > > Consumer wants edge providers' content. > Edge provider makes money from the consumer. Advertising. The content

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Fing george On Sep 28, 2017 12:34 AM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > Shut up george, dont make logical sense > > On Sep 28, 2017 12:25 AM, "George Skorup" > wrote: > >> I thought half or most of the issue was the "edge providers"? >> >> Consumer

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; > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 9:40 PM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? > > > > That's pretty much how I've always seen it... NN always seemed t

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Dude im drunk, as usual, and that exceeded my level of wtf did he say On Sep 27, 2017 10:08 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: How so? It depends on which session. Sometimes we at least had lube, or there was the threat of getting fucked, but we just hadn't been moved into the

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? -- Nathan From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 9:40 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? That's pretty much how I've always seen it... NN always seemed to me more of a solution to a problem that people were afraid

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That's pretty much how I've always seen it... NN always seemed to me more of a solution to a problem that people were afraid might be there someday, which the market would more than likely take care of by itself if it actually does happen, than a solution to an actual real problem. On Sep 27,

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I'd think the big guys getting greedy (and being allowed to do as they wish with their networks) would only help the smaller providers. It's certainly possible that I'm missing something though. On Wednesday, September 27, 2017, George Skorup wrote: > I think Steve is

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I think Steve is saying, what was broken 4 years ago that needed NN to come fix it? On 9/27/2017 10:08 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: How so? It depends on which session. Sometimes we at least had lube, or there was the threat of getting fucked, but we just hadn't been moved into the same cell

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How so? It depends on which session. Sometimes we at least had lube, or there was the threat of getting fucked, but we just hadn't been moved into the same cell block of our admirer yet. Sometimes we just got "raw dogged". On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Steve Jones

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Were we fucked 4 years ago? On Sep 27, 2017 9:30 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > There's some points that are obviously wrong, and some that are not. > > Also, as consumers, if net neutrality is repealed we are fucked. > > On Sep 27, 2017 8:27 PM, "Steve Jones"

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There's some points that are obviously wrong, and some that are not. Also, as consumers, if net neutrality is repealed we are fucked. On Sep 27, 2017 8:27 PM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/27/16374136/ajit-pai-fcc- > net-neutrality-isp > > >