Re: [AFMUG] ERPS: G.8032 vs Brocade MRP vs ?

2014-12-01 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
We are at this crossroads right now. We have tested Avaya SPB but its lacking some features (mostly TE). Currently testing Telco Systems Carrier Ethernet solution which will include MPLS-TP soon Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr

Re: [AFMUG] ERPS: G.8032 vs Brocade MRP vs ?

2014-12-01 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
Do you really need something faster than one of the spanning tree variants? The topology at Montana Internet is to have a layer 3 switch at each site and a big flat rapid spanning tree ring for all of the OSPF speaking layer 3 switches (Aka routers) to talk on. If I yank a ring cable, I lose

Re: [AFMUG] ERPS: G.8032 vs Brocade MRP vs ?

2014-12-01 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
In our cases, we need meshed networks, not rings Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Date:

Re: [AFMUG] IP Management

2014-12-01 Thread David Milholen via Af
George, I feel err bodies pain when it comes to ip plan records and what helps me is having radius provision our networks for us. Built into freeside it keeps up with ip inventory and what blocks or subnets go where. We get a new block and add it to inventory and when it gets broken down into

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems

2014-12-01 Thread Mark Radabaugh via Af
Yep - same address. Amplex 27800 Lemoyne, Ste F Millbury, OH 43447 I found a SyncPipe Basic still in the shrink wrap. On it’s way. 1Z59YW640393806068 Mark On Nov 29, 2014, at 8:52 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Nah I was going to pay for overnight, this saves me a ton.

[AFMUG] Cambium: VLAN Problem epmp 1000

2014-12-01 Thread Daniel Gerlach via Af
Hi, we do a lot of testingy and we didn´t resolve the Problem: PPPOE - Server(PPPOE VLAN 10, 99) -- AP( MGM VLAN 200)---SM ( MGM-VLAN 100, DATA VLAN 10+Membership VLAN 99) when we put a Laptop without VLAN we come online on PPPOE Server VLAN 10, this okay but when we put VLAN 99 on the Laptop

Re: [AFMUG] ERPS: G.8032 vs Brocade MRP vs ?

2014-12-01 Thread Mark Radabaugh via Af
We are evaluating vendors for this at the moment. Ciena is looking like the winner at the moment, with G.8032 as the loop control topology. So far we have rejected Cisco, Juniper, Performant, Accedian, and Extreme as vendors. To answer Forrest’s question - yes, we do need faster recovery than

Re: [AFMUG] ERPS: G.8032 vs Brocade MRP vs ?

2014-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
It's nice to see WISPs growing up. It would be nice if Mikrotik added a more modern feature set, but they seem to be busy elsewhere. Their MPLS feature set hasn't changed much in years. Nothing new in this arena for years. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-12-01 Thread Cameron Crum via Af
Was going to say the same thing Ken. I lived in Argentina for a while too. I made the mistake of asking someone if they spoke spanish and got a lecture. But yes the ll is like zsa most famously in the parillas that everyone wants to take you to. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Gino Villarini via

[AFMUG] Mimosa

2014-12-01 Thread Stefan Englhardt via Af
Got a call from our distributor. Next delivery date for our B5 link is mid of January. Hope they have enough capital to live without selling anything. We've not paid anything so we've no real problem with this.

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa

2014-12-01 Thread Rory Conaway via Af
Unlike some vendors, I think they are just taking their time on the firmware to make sure it's right. It's kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario. If you remember, it took several Ubiquiti quite a long time on the M series to get past some chipset features and the Quantenna

Re: [AFMUG] ERPS: G.8032 vs Brocade MRP vs ?

2014-12-01 Thread Shayne Lebrun via Af
So throw in BFD, maybe? -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh via Af Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 8:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ERPS: G.8032 vs Brocade MRP vs ? We are evaluating vendors for this at the moment. Ciena is

Re: [AFMUG] ERPS: G.8032 vs Brocade MRP vs ?

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
This info may be a bit outdated with MSTP, I haven't looked, but it used to be that the size of your tree should beno larger than 7 nodes. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/01/2014 01:50 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af wrote: Do you

[AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question

2014-12-01 Thread Paul McCall via Af
We have an SAF Lumina with the Hybrid Interface on it. Optical and Electrcial. Our fiber going to the radio got eaten by a big bird. Not THE Big Bird, but A big bird :) Anyway, can we actually use the EL (copper) interface to pass data? I have emailed SAF this AM and not gotten an answer

Re: [AFMUG] ERPS: G.8032 vs Brocade MRP vs ?

2014-12-01 Thread Mark Radabaugh via Af
The biggest issue we have with MSTP is the inability to deal with unstable links. A high capacity backhaul flapping is disastrous with MSTP due to the constant bridge table flushing. G.8032 should be able to deal with this type of failure more gracefully. I think MPLS also has ways of

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question

2014-12-01 Thread Mark Radabaugh via Af
AFAIK yes. You may need to change the internal switch configuration to get it to do so. Mark On Dec 1, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We have an SAF Lumina with the Hybrid Interface on it. Optical and Electrcial. Our fiber going to the radio got eaten by a

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question

2014-12-01 Thread RanchBoss via Af
Yes Sent from my Ranch Phone On Dec 1, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We have an SAF Lumina with the Hybrid Interface on it. Optical and Electrcial. Our fiber going to the radio got eaten by a big bird. Not THE Big Bird, but A big bird J Anyway, can we

Re: [AFMUG] ERPS: G.8032 vs Brocade MRP vs ?

2014-12-01 Thread Scott Vander Dussen via Af
Mark- Why Ciena Brocade? And generally speaking, when Ciena is referring to G.8032 is that assumed it's the second revision? Their chalk talk video is clearly referencing features unique to v2, but the documentation only identifies simply G.8032. Scott -Original Message- From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] ERPS: G.8032 vs Brocade MRP vs ?

2014-12-01 Thread Scott Vander Dussen via Af
Josh- Did your upstream engineer find an alternative solution or pursue a new protocol? Scott From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds via Af Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 00:08 To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ERPS: G.8032 vs Brocade MRP vs ? Scott, I had been

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
Do you have their fancy POEs? I'm not sure if it does typical POE as the unit is 35 watts+ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We have an SAF Lumina with the

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question

2014-12-01 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
Ah the big bird ate my (xxx) ploy! Back in the mid 90's we some Cushcraft Yagi antenna pigtails get chewed by birds and water get inside them...those antennas shipped with Solectek AirLAN bridges.ended up switching many to TY-900's. Worse is when they build nests or pigeons dump on them and

Re: [AFMUG] ERPS: G.8032 vs Brocade MRP vs ?

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
I've never seen a protocol that handled flapping well :/ I really wish somebody would design a routing protocol with extensions fordetermining bandwidth tho (sound familiar? :/ ) josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/01/2014 07:03 AM, Mark

Re: [AFMUG] ERPS: G.8032 vs Brocade MRP vs ?

2014-12-01 Thread Mark Radabaugh via Af
Scott, Yes - G8032v2. The engineering project is a task I gave to Adam Kujawski (adam...@amplex.net mailto:adam...@amplex.net), and he has been researching this for some time. I did cover him on this and he will probably have a better answer. I think we considered Brocade but I’m not

Re: [AFMUG] ERPS: G.8032 vs Brocade MRP vs ?

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
They decided to stay with Juniper and MPLS-TE I believe. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/01/2014 07:23 AM, Scott Vander Dussen via Af wrote: Josh- Did your upstream engineer find an alternative solution or pursue a new protocol? Scott

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question

2014-12-01 Thread Paul McCall via Af
Yes, we have their fancy POE From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 11:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question Do you have their fancy POEs? I'm not sure if it does typical POE as the unit is 35

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question

2014-12-01 Thread Paul McCall via Af
Actually, Josh, we don’t have their POE. Had to think about that. We run power separately and just had a fiber transceiver at the router area From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 11:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question

2014-12-01 Thread TJ Trout via Af
Did you use cat5 for your power cable? On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Actually, Josh, we don’t have their POE. Had to think about that. We run power separately and just had a fiber transceiver at the router area *From:* Af

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
If you don't have their POEs you might as well just run a new fiber run. You can either spend all that time finding POEs and getting that set or just fix the initial problem =/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at

Re: [AFMUG] ERPS: G.8032 vs Brocade MRP vs ?

2014-12-01 Thread Mark Radabaugh via Af
It’s a tough one. MEF/ITU/IEEE Ethernet standards do have a lot of the mechanisms from SONET that allows you to specify reversion time on circuits to limit damage from flapping. Performant was the only one who seems to have tried to do anything with automated bandwidth detection and making

[AFMUG] 450 3.65 Gear

2014-12-01 Thread Matt via Af
What kind of luck is everybody having with the 3.65ghz 450 gear?

[AFMUG] Question for the Borg

2014-12-01 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
Has anyone worked with Presidio Networks out of Alb, NM? Good,Bad, Ugly??? Thx Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] 450 3.65 Gear

2014-12-01 Thread Sean Heskett via Af
Works great! On Monday, December 1, 2014, Matt via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What kind of luck is everybody having with the 3.65ghz 450 gear?

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question

2014-12-01 Thread Seth Mattinen via Af
On 12/1/14, 8:59, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: If you don't have their POEs you might as well just run a new fiber run. You can either spend all that time finding POEs and getting that set or just fix the initial problem =/ You don't need it to use the Ethernet ports. The Lumina never takes

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
So why would you run a cat5 cable when you can just run fiber in the same duration? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: On 12/1/14, 8:59, Josh Luthman via Af

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium: VLAN Problem epmp 1000

2014-12-01 Thread Daniel Gerlach via Af
nobody has this Problem with VLAN? 2014-12-01 14:36 GMT+01:00 Daniel Gerlach via Af af@afmug.com: Hi, we do a lot of testingy and we didn´t resolve the Problem: PPPOE - Server(PPPOE VLAN 10, 99) -- AP( MGM VLAN 200)---SM ( MGM-VLAN 100, DATA VLAN 10+Membership VLAN 99) when we put a

Re: [AFMUG] ERPS: G.8032 vs Brocade MRP vs ?

2014-12-01 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
Mark, we are on the same page! Take a look at Telco Systems. All features, good pricing Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr On 12/1/14, 9:52 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We are evaluating vendors for this at the

Re: [AFMUG] ERPS: G.8032 vs Brocade MRP vs ?

2014-12-01 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
We found ciena a bit pricey Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr On 12/1/14, 12:19 PM, Scott Vander Dussen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Mark- Why Ciena Brocade? And generally speaking, when Ciena is referring to G.8032 is that

Re: [AFMUG] ERPS: G.8032 vs Brocade MRP vs ?

2014-12-01 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
A mix of SPB with Bandwidth Detection would be the bomb! Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] ERPS: G.8032 vs Brocade MRP vs ?

2014-12-01 Thread Scott Vander Dussen via Af
Is bandwidth detection really that important? Can’t you implement port shut-down on your backhauls at/below certain modulation levels? Scott From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 09:44 To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] ERPS: G.8032 vs Brocade MRP vs ?

2014-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
You can, but if bandwidth detection was there, you wouldn't have to. It would also lessen the flapping that may cause from shutdown. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Scott Vander Dussen via Af af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] 450 3.65 Gear

2014-12-01 Thread Matt via Af
Works great! Are you using 10mhz or 20mhz channels? We currently use 20mhz channels in ABAB format. I worry about the future band changes and we wont be allowed to do that anymore. Customers keep wanting more and more bandwidth. What kind of luck is everybody having with the 3.65ghz 450

[AFMUG] Router alternatives

2014-12-01 Thread Timothy D. McNabb via Af
Does anyone know of any decent medium-cost routing solutions out there that handle PPPoE, BGP etc that do not involve Mikrotik, Cisco, Juniper or Imagestream? Before I start needle-searching through the haystack, I was curious to know what you guys have had experience with that works or worked

Re: [AFMUG] 450 3.65 Gear

2014-12-01 Thread Sean Heskett via Af
We are using 20mhz channels with ABAB. However with LBT you have to offset the A1 by a cpl MHz from A2 etc. Also don't worry about the band changes. Currently this equip would be grandfathered for 5 years. -Sean On Monday, December 1, 2014, Matt via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Works great!

Re: [AFMUG] ERPS: G.8032 vs Brocade MRP vs ?

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
I think another problem is that most WISP gear lacks the proper *tools* to troubleshoot and diagnose problems at layer2. That's been one of my beefs for awhile with layer2 designs, as the tools to monitor and test them aren't prevalent in networks that aren't 'metro. A long time ago I

Re: [AFMUG] ERPS: G.8032 vs Brocade MRP vs ?

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
Agreed. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/01/2014 08:44 AM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: A mix of SPB with Bandwidth Detection would be the bomb! Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
Sure in that case but I think Paul is looking to limp on cat5 during the fiber cut. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 1, 2014 1:20 PM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: On 12/1/14, 9:29, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: So

Re: [AFMUG] Router alternatives

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
pFsense on custom hardware and support from Electric Sheep Fencing (who is actually ran by the developers) might work for you josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/01/2014 09:15 AM, Timothy D. McNabb via Af wrote: Does anyone know of any decent

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question

2014-12-01 Thread Seth Mattinen via Af
On 12/1/14, 10:28, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Sure in that case but I think Paul is looking to limp on cat5 during the fiber cut. In which case he can just plug it in and go. If he's running fiber then he's already got it powered since the fiber wasn't doing that. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] 450 3.65 Gear

2014-12-01 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
LBT? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Date: Monday, December 1, 2014 at 2:19 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] 450 3.65 Gear

2014-12-01 Thread Sean Heskett via Af
Listen before talk -basically DFS for the 3.65 band so that the upper 25mhz is available for use. On Monday, December 1, 2014, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: LBT? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From:

[AFMUG] Your friends at Vivint

2014-12-01 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
From a fellow WISP in town... By the way, these guys are super slimy... they have gone to my customer's and told them that they need to check the equipment and then they climbed on the roof even after my customer told them, I don't use Vivint. The neighbor saw them and was watching their every

Re: [AFMUG] 450 3.65 Gear

2014-12-01 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
Ohh… you had me confused there a bit between LBT and LBGT Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] 450 3.65 Gear

2014-12-01 Thread Mark Radabaugh via Af
Sometimes LBGT is why you should LBT :-) Mark On Dec 1, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Ohh… you had me confused there a bit between LBT and LBGT Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From:

Re: [AFMUG] 450 3.65 Gear

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
Not sure I should ask and probably not a safe Google question...what's LBT? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Sometimes LBGT is why you should LBT :-) Mark

[AFMUG] Fiber Contractors

2014-12-01 Thread Ben Royer via Af
Does anyone have a good fiber boring contractor that you would recommend? Thank you, Ben Royer, Operations Supervisor Royell Communications, Inc. 217-965-3699 www.royell.net

Re: [AFMUG] 450 3.65 Gear

2014-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
Maybe you should read before post? Look down three replies in the message you sent... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014

Re: [AFMUG] 450 3.65 Gear

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
Gotcha - Listen before talk -basically DFS for the 3.65 band so that the upper 25mhz is available for use Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Maybe you should

Re: [AFMUG] 450 3.65 Gear

2014-12-01 Thread Matt via Af
We are using 20mhz channels with ABAB. However with LBT you have to offset the A1 by a cpl MHz from A2 etc. Think they fixed that issue in one of the early betas, remember running into it shortly after hardware release. We are doing ABAB and not running into it now. Also don't worry about

Re: [AFMUG] 450 3.65 Gear

2014-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
In the new band you can still do whatever you want unlicensed (which is all 3650 really is). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Matt via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 1:56:48

Re: [AFMUG] 450 3.65 Gear

2014-12-01 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
If you use 20 MHz channels one of them will probably have to ride back in coach with the people who purchased the cheap tickets. -Original Message- From: Matt via Af Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 1:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 3.65 Gear We are using 20mhz

Re: [AFMUG] Your friends at Vivint

2014-12-01 Thread David via Af
We have a similar competitor :) On 12/01/2014 01:18 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af wrote: From a fellow WISP in town... By the way, these guys are super slimy... they have gone to my customer's and told them that they need to check the equipment and then they climbed on the roof even after my

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa

2014-12-01 Thread Chuck Hogg via Af
Well...I just got told I could disclose this information... Official position, units start shipping to EAP customers by the end of this week. Secondly, I was given permission to disclose we have deployed 4 PtP links already of both B5 and B5C...questions? Regards, Chuck On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
Does it work? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Chuck Hogg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Well...I just got told I could disclose this information... Official position, units start shipping to EAP

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa

2014-12-01 Thread Stefan Englhardt via Af
Does it work? With all promised features. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Chuck Hogg via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Well...I just got told I could disclose this information... Official position, units start shipping to EAP customers by the end of this week.

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa

2014-12-01 Thread Chuck Hogg via Af
Yes. We installed 3 of these links on a very heavily congested tower, with about 5' of vertical separation, with very little available 5GHz spectrum. It found spectrum that it liked, however it created some issues for our other links on this same tower. We had to still do some frequency planning

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
WTB Mimosa b5c WTS Rocket M5 cheap!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Chuck Hogg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yes. We installed 3 of these links on a very heavily congested tower, with about 5' of

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa

2014-12-01 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
PHY rate vs actual data rate? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Date: Monday, December 1,

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa

2014-12-01 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
WTB Mimosa b5c WTS Rocket M5 cheap!!! What ya talking about Willis? Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: WTB Mimosa b5c WTS Rocket M5 cheap!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
Want to buy/Want to sell Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: WTB Mimosa b5c WTS Rocket M5 cheap!!! What ya talking about Willis? Jaime Solorza Wireless

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa

2014-12-01 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
oh it was in Spanish...no wonder I didn't understand Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Want to buy/Want to sell Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa

2014-12-01 Thread Chuck Hogg via Af
Setup for 50/50 and can get 165Mb FD on the 346Mbit PHY Rate link for example using MT BW Test... Regards, Chuck On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: PHY rate vs actual data rate? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question

2014-12-01 Thread Paul McCall via Af
Yeah, we plugged in copper, made the change in radio. All is good. We don’t do POE at all on this. This was pre-terminated fiber and we will replace fiber in a few days. Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen via Af Sent: Monday,

[AFMUG] OT Movie Review

2014-12-01 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
The Theory of Everything. Two thumbs up.

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question

2014-12-01 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
and set trap for birds? Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yeah, we plugged in copper, made the change in radio. All is good. We don’t do POE at all on this. This was pre-terminated fiber and we will

[AFMUG] OT - amazed what local Microcenter store has on shelf

2014-12-01 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
I needed a replacement HDD for a server and was surprised to find my local Microcenter store had Western Digital RE series drives and Samsung 850 PRO series SSDs in stock. Not online or deliver to store, actually on the shelf in the store. I was impressed, those are enterprise level drives,

Re: [AFMUG] OT - amazed what local Microcenter store has on shelf

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
www.slickdeals.net has the 840evo's on sale, 256 for $80 and 512 for like $200 Today only. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/01/2014 01:19 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: I needed a replacement HDD for a server and was surprised to find my local

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
TCP? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 1, 2014 4:44 PM, Chuck Hogg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Setup for 50/50 and can get 165Mb FD on the 346Mbit PHY Rate link for example using MT BW Test... Regards, Chuck On Mon, Dec 1,

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question

2014-12-01 Thread Daniel White via Af
Glad you got it figured out Paul. Sorry I was in meetings or on airplanes all day today. Yes you can power the radio directly with DC and then use the CAT5e interface for data and not the fiber interface. Or both. It's just a switch inside. Just make sure not to create a network loop or

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question

2014-12-01 Thread Paul McCall via Af
Yes, and that ! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 5:17 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question and set trap for birds? Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question

2014-12-01 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
or a Dirty Loop... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nls1HtXQe8E Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Glad you got it figured out Paul. Sorry I was in meetings or on airplanes all day today. Yes you can

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Contractors

2014-12-01 Thread Robert Haas via Af
We use Floyds Equipment out of Sikeston, MO 573-472-2652 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ben Royer via Af Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 1:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Fiber Contractors Does anyone have a good fiber boring contractor that you would

Re: [AFMUG] 450 3.65 Gear

2014-12-01 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
If you're running the 3GHz 450 with no guard between channels, you need to enable adjacent channel support on all sectors. This instructs the SMs to never exceed 23dBm Tx power. As far as co-channel, aka back-to-back sectors, if you have a REALLY close SM, it's possible that the opposite

[AFMUG] OT: RC Cars

2014-12-01 Thread Nate Burke via Af
For a long time I've wanted an RC car. I was at the beach over the weekend, and saw a guy running one through the sand and jumping it around and it looked really fun. I think I'm finally in a position in life where I can allow myself to get one. I'm thinking I may want one step above one

Re: [AFMUG] OT - amazed what local Microcenter store has on shelf

2014-12-01 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
I needed one I could go get locally. Also 840 is not 850, and EVO is not PRO. But those do look like good prices. Nice upgrade for a laptop, if you can successfully move the OS. From: Josh Reynolds via Af Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 4:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT -

Re: [AFMUG] OT: RC Cars

2014-12-01 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
You could get an RC airplane or helicopter, I sometimes drive by the field where these guys fly: http://www.foxvalleyaero.com/ OK, never mind, that would require requisition forms. -Original Message- From: Nate Burke via Af Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 5:48 PM To: Animal Farm

Re: [AFMUG] OT: RC Cars

2014-12-01 Thread Joseph Marsh via Af
They aren't waterproof I used to race them Sent from my iPhone On Dec 1, 2014, at 6:09 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: You could get an RC airplane or helicopter, I sometimes drive by the field where these guys fly: http://www.foxvalleyaero.com/ OK, never mind, that would

Re: [AFMUG] OT: RC Cars

2014-12-01 Thread Bill Prince via Af
I think Nate needs something like one of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/291227381933?lpid=82 -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/1/2014 4:09 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: You could get an RC airplane or helicopter, I sometimes drive by the field where

Re: [AFMUG] OT: RC Cars

2014-12-01 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
This could go over the water, but it doesn't look like it will reach it's Kickstarter goal in the next 44 hours: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2017062404/b-flying-car-goes-to-the-future -Original Message- From: Joseph Marsh via Af Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 6:15 PM To:

[AFMUG] Update on Canopy PtMP Issue

2014-12-01 Thread Heith Petersen via Af
I am pretty confident that I am having an interference issue. I could isolate customers that were bad and customers that were good. I couldn’t log into a radio that rendered a bad link test, however I did not get a chance to visit a customer in person and run the test that way, like say while it

Re: [AFMUG] OT: RC Cars

2014-12-01 Thread Sterling Jacobson via Af
You should get a Truggy. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Used-losi-mini-8ight-t-RTR-with-upgrades-/271689504456?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessorieshash=item3f41f4d6c8 You might need to buy a charger for the batteries. I have an XRAY 808E, but it's a lot more than $200 and has a lower profile. But I race

Re: [AFMUG] OT - amazed what local Microcenter store has on shelf

2014-12-01 Thread Sterling Jacobson via Af
Looks like that's gone now? I have the 840 Pro and it's a very nice SSD drive! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 5:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - amazed what local Microcenter store has on shelf I needed one I

Re: [AFMUG] OT: RC Cars

2014-12-01 Thread Erich Kaiser via Af
I would go to the local hobby store, typically those guys know a lot about this stuff, at least that is how it used to be 20 years ago. When I was into this stuff, the ultimate was having a gas powered RC truck/car, but I never had one :( HobbyTown USA 2061A Lincoln Highway St. Charles, IL 60174

Re: [AFMUG] Update on Canopy PtMP Issue

2014-12-01 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
Get four used connectorized P10 2450APs from SWG or PDM. Put them on 90-degree v-pol sectors. Two channels. I have done a ton of 900 sectorization this way, like at sites where we never expected to have more than 10 SMs now have 40-50, and on 900... you get the idea. At least with FSK it has a

[AFMUG] Oreilly.com

2014-12-01 Thread Matt via Af
http://www.oreilly.com/ has all ebooks and videos 50 - 60 percent off today...

Re: [AFMUG] Oreilly.com

2014-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
Any recommended books? I'm already slated to get their BGP one. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Matt via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 8:06:05 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Oreilly.com

Re: [AFMUG] Oreilly.com

2014-12-01 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
Whew. Thought bill oreillys book were half off. Well I like fantasy Jaime Solorza On Dec 1, 2014 7:19 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Any recommended books? I'm already slated to get their BGP one. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: RC Cars

2014-12-01 Thread TJ Trout via Af
I just picked up a Savage X 4.6 Nitro, pretty sweet truck man. Basically indestructible and has more power than you would ever want. I fly planes and helicopters too and swear by electric but for cars Nitro is where it's at.. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Erich Kaiser via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Oreilly.com

2014-12-01 Thread Rory Conaway via Af
I just watched his Killing Kennedy movie last night. Too bad he didn’t cover more about what happened after the shooting. Hey, I might have to buy the book J Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 8:46 PM To: Animal

Re: [AFMUG] Oreilly.com

2014-12-01 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
I saw part of it...I want to watch it in its entirety... Jaime Solorza On Dec 1, 2014 9:43 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I just watched his Killing Kennedy movie last night. Too bad he didn’t cover more about what happened after the shooting. Hey, I might have to buy the

[AFMUG] support call logging

2014-12-01 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
I'm wondering if anyone has ever tried this, or has it working, before I waste my time. I'm talking about automatically opening a ticket for all inbound calls. Say something like osTicket and a SIP client registered to the PBX listening for incoming calls.

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