Re: [AFMUG] Cheap POE Inserter

Soldering the DC power? Augh. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Yes, but I don’t. > >Furthermore their product: > >WT-GPOE-1-AB > >Four port Gigabit

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik script variables

Ok, answered my own question. No general big list of script variables, but I guess the wiki describes them in the context where they're available. Option 82 stuff is not available, but I was able to query for it using the leased IP. :global op82remote :set $op82remote value=[get

Re: [AFMUG] MW+Fiber Hybrid Networks

Thanks From: Af > on behalf of Sterling Jacobson > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 7:06 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] MW+Fiber Hybrid Networks

Why tired? From: Af > on behalf of Chuck McCown > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 7:46 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] MW+Fiber Hybrid Networks

You are obviously busy and hard working. I am lazy... From: Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 6:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MW+Fiber Hybrid Networks Why tired? From: Af on behalf of Chuck McCown Reply-To: "af@afmug.com"

[AFMUG] MW+Fiber Hybrid Networks

My Latest Blog! Check it out! http://aeronetprceo.blogspot.com/2017/04/gigabit1-our-bet-on-fiber-and-wireless.html Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

Re: [AFMUG] MW+Fiber Hybrid Networks

You make me tired just reading about it. Wow. From: Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 4:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] MW+Fiber Hybrid Networks My Latest Blog! Check it out! http://aeronetprceo.blogspot.com/2017/04/gigabit1-our-bet-on-fiber-and-wireless.html

[AFMUG] West EP homeowners fed up with AT fiber optic project - KVIA

Ah? Did you not see the mountains? My son lives really close to this area. http://www.kvia.com/news/el-paso/west-ep-homeowners-fed-up-with-att-fiber-optic-project/433306313

Re: [AFMUG] MW+Fiber Hybrid Networks

He's in so much awe that he needs a nap now? On 4/4/2017 7:01 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Why tired? From: Af > on behalf of Chuck McCown > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com "

Re: [AFMUG] MW+Fiber Hybrid Networks

I fell asleep twice while reading it. :-O Sterling is right though. It needs some minor copy editing. -bp On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > I also slept for about 12 minutes after reading the article. > > > > J/K, not sure if that was translated,

Re: [AFMUG] MW+Fiber Hybrid Networks

Thanks guys, ill revise it From: Af > on behalf of Bill Prince > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 8:39 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] MW+Fiber Hybrid Networks

The grammar does make me a bit dizzy FYI. After a quick proof I think you'll be good. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 4, 2017 9:02 PM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > Thanks guys, ill revise it > > From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] West EP homeowners fed up with AT fiber optic project - KVIA

Give me the fastest internet possible for my Netflix and porn. Oh, and I want it for $3.95/mo. Wait, why are you digging up my yard? I don't want cable, I just want internet! Get outta here! OK, now I'm only getting 921Mbps. I'm paying for 1.0Gbps! Fix it now!!! Over-privileged first-world

Re: [AFMUG] MW+Fiber Hybrid Networks

Nice, good job! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 4:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] MW+Fiber Hybrid Networks My Latest Blog! Check it out! http://aeronetprceo.blogspot.com/2017/04/gigabit1-our-bet-on-fiber-and-wireless.html

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap POE Inserter

No there would be a screw terminal. The cheaper one just has screw terminals. More expensive is the phoenix plugable style. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 1:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap POE Inserter Soldering the DC power? Augh. Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] MW+Fiber Hybrid Networks

I also slept for about 12 minutes after reading the article. J/K, not sure if that was translated, but it’s a bit awkward in the wording and about twice as long as needed IMO. But I like it criticism notwithstanding  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Are APC products available through wholesalers?

Best price I have found is UPS for less On 04/03/2017 10:53 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: *Rory Conaway **� Triad Wireless �**CEO* *4226 S. 37^th Street � Phoenix � AZ 85040* *602-426-0542* *r...@triadwireless.net * *www.triadwireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot

Salomon Satche Mark Settle Juan Silva These three to start but be careful that your house is spot less They will check you first Also don't use the language you use here with them it will not help your case any Good luck

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Need Some Help!

Hmm, you can paypal it to me and ill post it to gofundme… From: Af > on behalf of Steve Jones > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date:

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Sync for PTP500 PTP600 Radios

The sync unit worked and let you reuse frequencies on a site. There are some tradeoffs on performance as you have to set the timing to match the longest link distance so the nearer units give up some performance. Link Planner will let you see exactly what the results are. Mark > On Apr

Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot

Paraphrased "Don't try to remove the spec form your neighbors eye with a log in yours" The FCC will look at everything you have. Check your gear three times before you make that call. And all of it, not just the site you are complaining about. On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 10:25 PM Steve Jones

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone have a favorite dealer for Trylon knock down towers?

Talley if you are talking the tin metal variant. If you are talking about the ones made of real steel, anyone. Talley Kits better than anyone I have ever seen. On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 12:15 PM Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Contact me off list... >

Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot

What people say is if the FCC is in town they're gonna check up on everybody while they're there, and they'll fine the guy who called them if they find a reason to. If you're going down that road, double check everything. -- Original Message -- From: "Steve Jones"

Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot

Thanks for the contact info, we will see how this plays out. If it needs to go that far, I'm as confident as I can be with my house, assuming the firmware doesn't lie and my math is accurate. On Apr 4, 2017 5:53 AM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > Paraphrased "Don't try to

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Need Some Help!

Id? On Apr 4, 2017 3:55 AM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > Hmm, you can paypal it to me and ill post it to gofundme… > > From: Af on behalf of Steve Jones < > thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date: Monday, April 3, 2017

Re: [AFMUG] Are APC products available through wholesalers?

Not at small levels. I use lots of those PRM4 4 slot rack mounts and have never been able to get a wholesale account. Ingram micro does sell their stuff but you can buy direct online from APC for less. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 9:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot

+10 I would ask Doug Clark and Sterling Jacobsen before calling the FCC. They always pick apart the person making the complaint first as a deterrent from ever doing it again. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 4:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot

Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot

Get someone totally unrelated to you to complain if you are going to complain. From: Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 7:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot Thanks for the contact info, we will see how this plays out. If it needs to go that far, I'm as confident as

Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot

It went great for us the guys from the FCC were fantastic On 04/04/2017 08:31 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: +10 I would ask Doug Clark and Sterling Jacobsen before calling the FCC. They always pick apart the person making the complaint first as a deterrent from ever doing it again.

Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot

If you are totally squeaky clean. But I hear they have very sneaky ways to write up even the cleanest company. From: Mitch Koep Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 7:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot It went great for us the guys from the FCC were fantastic On 04/04/2017

Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot

Yup. What Chuck said. Do check with Sterling. bp On 4/4/2017 6:40 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: If you are totally squeaky clean. But I hear they have very sneaky ways to write up even the cleanest company. *From:* Mitch Koep *Sent:* Tuesday, April 04, 2017 7:36 AM

[AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

Where are we with this concept as a WISP industry? Let's say I have $200k to invest and already have mainline fiber in or near to the neighborhoods. What equipment do I buy to get the best speeds to residential and small business customers? Is there equipment in the 60GHz or similar bands

Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

Vivint and Google are both saying they are doing this. No idea what kid of radios they are using. I talked to a couple of Vivint locals at the AnimalFarm show. They both claim to be getting 1 Gbps at their home with the millimeter radio. I think it was 60 GHz. I asked them if it stays up

Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot

Does the FCC even care about 5Ghz if it isn’t something major like weather radar interference? I heard they were reduced in staff, so maybe they just show up for the big stuff like that and license violations and perhaps vendor violations for 5GHz. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On

Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot

I remember when Doug Clark called them, they made him wish he had never called. In your case, you weren’t the one making the complaint. As I recall it was still a painful visit. From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot

Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

There are the Ignitenet 60GHz radios. They are great! I can show you how I am setting a new deployment of them very soon. It limits how many APs are required. I'm able to get a consistent 900Mb over PtMP. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On Apr 4, 2017, at 9:47 AM, Sterling Jacobson

Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

Ignitenet would probably be the best option for doing this, at this point. On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Vivint and Google are both saying they are doing this. No idea what kid > of radios they are using. I talked to a couple of Vivint locals at the >

Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

I have an Ignitenet PtP link that is half a mile that doesn't fade in the rain. I'm sure it will if it gets really heavy. There has been rain, but not heavy rain since I installed this link. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On Apr 4, 2017, at 9:52 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot

We had made complaints prior and they never investigated us. That’s how we knew the field agents already and trusted them. Then they came in out of the blue with the weather radar stuff, and decided to make an example of us and several others in the area. I know that wasn’t us interfering, but

Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

Well, Utah... Like to hear reports from the rainy states. 60 GHz is .19" wavelength or about .095" half wave or .0475" quarter wave. Rain drops can get up to .150" So they fall in the ranges of quarter to full wave length sizes. Moreover they will serve as miniature dielectric lenses. And

Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

What happens if the house with AP quits service?? You loose the rest that are connected ?? Tried that did not go well LOL So now use power poles or small pipe masts (30 to 40') On 04/04/2017 11:08 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Well, Utah... Like to hear reports from the rainy states. 60 GHz is

Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

Keep building fiber. Call it Gogol fiber. Or perhaps Googolplex fiber. Millinillion fiber. -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 10:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless Well, Utah... Like to hear reports

Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

One advantage of fiber is also less electronics in the mix. 60ghz might be a good option to get the neighborhood hooked up quickly however. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Apr 4, 2017, at 11:47 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > > Where are we with this

Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

Siklu is coming out with a 60GHz option at the end of April or early May. Mark Chamerlik Strategic Account Manager-East WAV, Inc. | We make the Internet work O: 630-818-1004 | C: 815-822-4490 ma...@wavonline.com      For additional assistance please contact: insidesa...@wavonline.com

Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

Yeap, but ill go urban/city more density=more customers On 4/4/17, 11:47 AM, "Af on behalf of Sterling Jacobson" Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot

FCC guys were here a few months back looking for interference bleeding into FAA ground to pilot communications ...turned out to be a local TV station on Upper Comanche.They also shut down several 5GHz links using frequencies near radar bands belonging to a company specializing in links for

Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

Siklu has a webinar on PMP product line this week I think Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Super WISP wrote: > Siklu is coming out with a 60GHz option at the end of April or early May. > > > Mark Chamerlik >

Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

I'm thinking you put the AP on the utility pole. -- Original Message -- From: "Mitch Koep" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 4/4/2017 12:18:42 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless What happens if the house with AP quits service?? You loose the rest

Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

Yeah, some high point not on residential property I guess. We don't have a lot of utility poles in some areas, so this is going to be a challenge. I don't like maintaining tower infrastructure, so some sort of deal with the power company for pole space or with the city or HOA for space and

Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

Street lights? There is even a special adapter that can take power from the photocell socket. -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 11:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless Yeah, some high point not on

Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

I don't know about your power company, but ours has two attachment application processesone for lines and one for antennas. So at least around here it's something that's been thought of. Putting in your own pole is also pretty cheap if it's a normal heightlike a 50 footer (42' AGL).

[AFMUG] Cheap POE Inserter

Here is a mockup for an inexpensive POE inserter/remover. I could add some mounting holes. Plastic enclosure runs the price up a bunch. Gino, would this do what you need?

Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

There are at least a couple ways to do a "hybrid" system, depending on the situation. One is getting service to a remote community that is buried in trees. Use microwave to get to the neighborhood, and fiber to get around the neighborhood. The second is a neighborhood that isn't so "remote, and

Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

How does the newer 900 MHz stuff get along with redwoods? From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 11:37 AM To: Motorola III Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless There are at least a couple ways to do a "hybrid" system, depending on the situation. One is

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap POE Inserter

Doesnt Murray already make something? https://find-a-poe.com/ Jim Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 active, an AT 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Chuck McCown Date: 4/4/17 12:36 PM (GMT-06:00) To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap POE Inserter Here

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap POE Inserter

Yes, but I don’t. Furthermore their product: WT-GPOE-1-AB Four port Gigabit passive Power over Ethernet injector. Use with your own 48 volt power supply or order one of ours. Mode A only, Not compatible with 24 volt applications like Ubiqiti $19.95 I think I can do

Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless

In our area? Crap. There is not enough SNR, or even just good ol' S to get any decent bandwidth through. -bp On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > How does the newer 900 MHz stuff get along with redwoods? > > *From:* Bill Prince > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 04,

[AFMUG] Mikrotik script variables

Is there a list of available Mikrotik's built in script variables? Specifically right now I want to use an option 82 agent remote ID in a script.but in general I'd love to have a reference that tells me what's available.

Re: [AFMUG] West EP homeowners fed up with AT fiber optic project - KVIA

Wow...Just shared it to point out how difficult it can be lay fiber when unexpected or unplanned obstacles pop up. Imagine going to erect a tower base five feet deep and a few inches or feet you hit a water/gas/sewer/etc...If you or someone didn't check it out before it could be a project