Re: [AFMUG] CQ Gino - How are you doing?

2017-11-27 Thread Lewis Bergman
I was trying to convince a conference that was slated for PR in February to keep that location but they opted for San Diego instead. IS PR ready for that kind of tourism yet? On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 7:19 AM Gino A. Villarini wrote: > Hey Chuck and the rest of the AF gang, >

[AFMUG] ePMP puzzle

2017-11-27 Thread Larry Smith
Ok, have an ePMP 1000, updated from 3.1 to 3.3 then to 3.4 and problem persists. Issue is each time you login into the radio and go to configuration, network, a read triangle pops up on the right side of the network line and the save button reds out. Holding the mouse over the save button says

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts

2017-11-27 Thread Josh Luthman
No more than any other high end make? Rip out the GPS antenna and you're set. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:28 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > Aren't teslas one of

Re: [AFMUG] CQ Gino - How are you doing?

2017-11-27 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Where was the conference scheduled to be held? Cruises are coming in… From: Af > on behalf of Lewis Bergman > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com"

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP puzzle

2017-11-27 Thread Nate Burke
Does it happen with multiple machines/browsers? Maybe some stuck cache somewhere? On 11/27/2017 9:14 AM, Larry Smith wrote: Ok, have an ePMP 1000, updated from 3.1 to 3.3 then to 3.4 and problem persists. Issue is each time you login into the radio and go to configuration, network, a read

Re: [AFMUG] CQ Gino - How are you doing?

2017-11-27 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Hey Chuck and the rest of the AF gang, Im happy to report that after 67 days after the hurricane, our network is 85+% up. About 70% of that 80% is running on either generator or solar, as power has been slow to bring online, specially in rural areas. I would say that more that 65% of our

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP puzzle

2017-11-27 Thread George Skorup
I would also recommend R3.5. I've had significantly less issues with that. On 11/27/2017 9:22 AM, Larry Smith wrote: Well darn, that appears to have been the issue. Tried from a different machine (that I have never accessed this radio from) and it worked fine. Thanks.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP puzzle

2017-11-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Same thought here as Nate. Really sounds like a cache issue (which is a heavy problem in 3.3 and 3.4 IME). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > Does it happen

[AFMUG] Tower Climber Insurance premium went 25k up for one guy.

2017-11-27 Thread Sam Lambie
What/Who do you guys use for tower climbers and workmans comp to cover them in case of an accident? Sam -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts

2017-11-27 Thread Chuck McCown
I am sure they can phone home and be remotely disabled. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 1:28 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts Aren't teslas one of the more stupid vehicles to try to steal? I found the article about the theft, and I

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts

2017-11-27 Thread Jay Weekley
I looked up the original article which had other humorous statements such as, "A 31-year-old man was arrested following a chase when a trooper spotted a Tesla and started to follow. The chase was short lived, Keller said, as the battery in the allegedly stolen vehicle died."

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts

2017-11-27 Thread Nate Burke
Can't they just drive themselves back to the dealer? On 11/27/2017 9:52 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I am sure they can phone home and be remotely disabled. *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) *Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2017 1:28 AM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts Aren't

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP puzzle

2017-11-27 Thread Larry Smith
Well darn, that appears to have been the issue. Tried from a different machine (that I have never accessed this radio from) and it worked fine. Thanks. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon November 27 2017 09:17, Nate Burke wrote: > Does it happen with multiple machines/browsers? Maybe

[AFMUG] Best NN Article I've Read

2017-11-27 Thread Mike Hammett
https://blog.streamingmedia.com/2017/11/net-neutrality-is-a-sham.html - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts

2017-11-27 Thread Chuck McCown
Better yet, drive up under the second story you are waiting to jump from when you whistle. Of course it will have to be a convertible. From: Nate Burke Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 9:02 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts Can't they just drive themselves back to the

Re: [AFMUG] ATA CallerID question

2017-11-27 Thread Nate Burke
Just an Update, I put a splitter in the phone line, and caller ID works perfect on any 'modern' handset. But still does not work on the Lucent PBX. The customer still swears it worked with his old AT lines, but seems resigned to the fact that he won't have caller ID Anymore. I tried to sell

Re: [AFMUG] ATA CallerID question

2017-11-27 Thread Chuck McCown
Any chance of a ground start vs loop start issue? Some PBXs were ground start. Not sure how that would affect caller ID. Is the PBX actually detecting the ringing? From: Nate Burke Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 9:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ATA CallerID question Just an

Re: [AFMUG] ATA CallerID question

2017-11-27 Thread Nate Burke
The phones on the PBX ring/talk/terminate normally. Just no Caller ID. There is no Voicemail on the PBX, he has a answering machine plugged into the phone splitter, it yells out the Caller ID number when a call comes in, so that's working. This is a small engine repair shop, proprietor has

Re: [AFMUG] Best NN Article I've Read

2017-11-27 Thread fiberrun
> https://blog.streamingmedia.com/2017/11/net-neutrality-is-a-sham.html Nah, it falls down on its face pretty hard. Dan basically posits that it's all the fault of transit providers, completely ignoring the fact that the transit market is a competitive market whereas last mile providers have

Re: [AFMUG] ATA CallerID question

2017-11-27 Thread Chuck McCown
Both actually. Keeps the PBX from placing a call at the exact same time the central office is sending a call. (glare). PBX grounds the ring side of the line to indicate it wants dial tone. The central office reciprocates by a ground on the tip side of the line. The PBX then goes off hook and

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP puzzle

2017-11-27 Thread George Skorup
Password backups work with text/json just fine. The only thing is, an account cannot be disabled. I completely gave up on the binary backups. On 11/27/2017 2:49 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Binary backupsso I have the logins... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP puzzle

2017-11-27 Thread Mathew Howard
That is annoying, but if you're doing JSON backups, I'd think you could just edit the key out of the backup with a text editor and use it. On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > 3.3 through 3.5 can not accept backups with a license attached to them.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP puzzle

2017-11-27 Thread Josh Luthman
They did change that recently, which is nice. But I believe the automatic backups with SNMP are still bin. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:54 PM, George Skorup wrote: > Password

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP puzzle

2017-11-27 Thread Mathew Howard
I thought you could do either with SNMP... but it's been awhile since I've messed with that, so I could be wrong. On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > They did change that recently, which is nice. > > But I believe the automatic backups with SNMP

Re: [AFMUG] Best NN Article I've Read

2017-11-27 Thread fiberrun
> I think you're reading this through glasses tinted to whatever predisposition > you have to the issue. Obvious I have my own biases, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong :) Now, I never claimed I was impartial or unbiased, but the article in question does not rise to the standard of "best NN

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts

2017-11-27 Thread Eric Kuhnke
considering that a powered-on tesla model S has a persistent cellular data connection back to tesla's servers, and built in GPS... the only effective way to steal one would be to bring a wide spectrum 650-2500 MHz jammer with you, and keep the jammer on at all times. assuming that your goal would

Re: [AFMUG] Best NN Article I've Read

2017-11-27 Thread Adam Moffett
This highlights something I've been complaining about. I found the open internet order to be mostly harmless, possibly pointless. I'm neutral on whether it stays or goes. Literally *Everyone* I've heard talking about it on both sides is presenting an argument that is not based on any facts.

Re: [AFMUG] CQ Gino - How are you doing?

2017-11-27 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Shouldn’t be a problem, power issues are mostly in rural areas From: Af > on behalf of Lewis Bergman > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" >

Re: [AFMUG] Best NN Article I've Read

2017-11-27 Thread fiberrun
> I don't see > where he's blaming transit providers for anything. See the paragraphs in the middle about Cogent. > The transit provider > was an example of a technical point that most of the public is unaware > of, but which complicates the discussion. It complicates the discussion

Re: [AFMUG] Best NN Article I've Read

2017-11-27 Thread Mike Hammett
I think you're reading this through glasses tinted to whatever predisposition you have to the issue. "Don't bring peering policies into it, as that's a completely separate issue." That's what most people are pointing to as NN violations, though. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [AFMUG] Best NN Article I've Read

2017-11-27 Thread Mathew Howard
One of my biggest problems with the whole NN thing, is the fact that all the reasons people list for needing it aren't things that have ever really happened (or they were resolved one way or another without NN). It seems to me the best thing to do is get rid of the (apparently) pointless

Re: [AFMUG] Best NN Article I've Read

2017-11-27 Thread Adam Moffett
https://blog.streamingmedia.com/2017/11/net-neutrality-is-a-sham.html Nah, it falls down on its face pretty hard. Dan basically posits that it's all the fault of transit providers, completely ignoring the fact that the transit market is a competitive market whereas last mile providers

Re: [AFMUG] ATA CallerID question

2017-11-27 Thread Adam Moffett
I've probably got that wrong, I think the PBX was expecting a pin to get grounded and since that didn't happen it would never pick up. In any case, I'm pretty sure it would ring but you couldn't answer it. -- Original Message -- From: "Adam Moffett" To:

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP puzzle

2017-11-27 Thread Josh Luthman
3.3 through 3.5 can not accept backups with a license attached to them. This means that if you backup your lite AP with an upgraded key, it's completely useless on an AP that's running 3.3 - 3.5. I don't expect the license to work at all, but give me every other config parameter and let me buy a

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts

2017-11-27 Thread Eric Kuhnke
or if you were an organized auto theft gang with a flatbed tow truck, and unusually high respect for the FCC, I suppose you could pull a model S onto a truck and wrap it in a faraday cage blanket. On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > So in addition to grand

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts

2017-11-27 Thread Robert Andrews
Or if you watched youtube vids you would know where the "Slice Battery Cable Here" disconnect is to shut down everything... On 11/27/2017 01:26 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: or if you were an organized auto theft gang with a flatbed tow truck, and unusually high respect for the FCC, I suppose you

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts

2017-11-27 Thread Eric Kuhnke
just a guess, but if you're already committing felony auto theft, the FCC is probably the least of your worries. :) On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > So in addition to grand theft auto, you get to deal with the FCC for > jamming licensed airwaves? > >

Re: [AFMUG] Day one..

2017-11-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Glass Ranch in Lubbock... pretty country...seen wild turkey, mule deer and a feral pig family...our contact here has his hunting bow gear... Jaime Solorza On Nov 27, 2017 3:46 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Well off to bad start...the outfit that is making the pit and

Re: [AFMUG] Best NN Article I've Read

2017-11-27 Thread Dennis Burgess
I take two parts to this.. 1. So when Cogent, a transit provider that sits in the middle of content owners and ISPs was caught prioritizing Netflix’s traffic into Comcast, why weren’t proponents of net neutrality up in arms? Why weren’t they calling on the FCC to do something? [Cogent Now

Re: [AFMUG] Best NN Article I've Read

2017-11-27 Thread Mike Hammett
" I don't see how it's a separate issue." One was "handled" by net neutrality regulations, the other was not. Peering is one world, cache boxes are another world, transit and DIA are related but different and then consumer broadband is another world. All should be handled independently as

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts

2017-11-27 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Aren't teslas one of the more stupid vehicles to try to steal? I found the article about the theft, and I agree... odd... On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > In SLC, someone broke into the showroom and made off with 4 Teslas. > > Here is an snip from a

Re: [AFMUG] ATA CallerID question

2017-11-27 Thread Lewis Bergman
This is probably way off but is there any chance he had more than one line and the one you are now working with doesn't have callerID? When you say "When he had AT" does that mean you ported the lines to some other provider? If so, is callerID enabled on the new line(s)? On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at

Re: [AFMUG] CQ Gino - How are you doing?

2017-11-27 Thread Lewis Bergman
San Juan On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 8:24 AM Gino A. Villarini wrote: > Where was the conference scheduled to be held? Cruises are coming in… > > From: Af on behalf of Lewis Bergman < > lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" >

Re: [AFMUG] ATA CallerID question

2017-11-27 Thread Adam Moffett
When I plugged loop start lines into a ground start PBX they couldn't answer the phones. I may not be remembering this right, but I think they did ring. I think the PBX would try to ground the line when you picked up a handset, and that resulted in a hangup on the ATA. That's also the

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP puzzle

2017-11-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Binary backupsso I have the logins... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > That is annoying, but if you're doing JSON backups, I'd think you could > just

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP puzzle

2017-11-27 Thread Steve Jones
whatever you do, if youve loaded any backup, never, ever click the eyeball on the password field, you will regret it. sometimes it corrupts the password, sometimes the radio becomes inaccessible, sometimes it will have a never ending save. Epmp is some cost effective rock solid gear, but man, does

Re: [AFMUG] Best NN Article I've Read

2017-11-27 Thread Dennis Burgess
Furthermore, I don't necessary agree with this. Remember, Netflix is the one paying Cogent and Cogent is selling Netflix on the principle that it can get all of Netflix’s traffic into an ISP like Comcast. As a result, Cogent has to take all the necessary business steps to make sure Cogent has

Re: [AFMUG] Best NN Article I've Read

2017-11-27 Thread Chuck McCown
I presumed Cogent did it at the request of Comcast. After all, Netflix creates less demand for their CATV offering. -Original Message- From: Dennis Burgess Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 4:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best NN Article I've Read I take two parts to

Re: [AFMUG] Day one..

2017-11-27 Thread Lewis Bergman
Have you ever considered precasting? We do some of this and it can save a lot of time, trips, and issues on remote sites like delivery it mileage charges. Having said that, it can cost more make ready. On small tower foundations we have done some pretty large foundations this way. Normally

Re: [AFMUG] Day one..

2017-11-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Good idea...we are control and radios guys on project. Park Hill Smith and Cooper are the engineers.. Jaime Solorza On Nov 27, 2017 6:46 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > Have you ever considered precasting? We do some of this and it can save a > lot of time, trips, and

Re: [AFMUG] Teach me about tower lights

2017-11-27 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Can you think of any reason why simply measuring consumed current and making sure it matches an expected pattern (I.E. toggling between all-on and "blink") with the correct frequency and during the right time of day wouldn't work with any of the systems you've put in? Of course with a contact or

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts

2017-11-27 Thread Bill Prince
So in addition to grand theft auto, you get to deal with the FCC for jamming licensed airwaves? Yeah. Why not go for the whole enchilada. bp On 11/27/2017 1:14 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: considering that a powered-on tesla model S has a persistent cellular data

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts

2017-11-27 Thread Robert Andrews
You would almost expect the cars on the Tesla Lot to have virtual walls, that if they are driven out of without a release by the dealership, they phone home and report being out of the castle and location and dammit send the cops and rescue me before they slice me up for the battery and

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP puzzle

2017-11-27 Thread Mathew Howard
Ah yeah, you're right. The reason I thought you could do json is that it says json in the documentation, but it actually does a bin. On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Last I looked there was OID to build the backup and a second OID to grab > it

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Climber Insurance premium went 25k up for one guy.

2017-11-27 Thread Sean Heskett
in colorado workman's comp is handled by a quasi government monopoly/private provider, they are the only entity that can provide in our state. they have us report what percentage of time per year the employee does each role. so our main tower climber is maybe 30% (probably less tho) tower work

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts

2017-11-27 Thread Paul McCall
That’s the best (funniest) answer yet. Oceans 11 type stuff From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 4:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts or if you were an organized auto theft gang with a flatbed tow truck, and

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP puzzle

2017-11-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Last I looked there was OID to build the backup and a second OID to grab it (another OID exists to check the status of the backup generation). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Mathew Howard

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts

2017-11-27 Thread Robert Andrews
You stole a car, I would think an FCC bust is going to be mouse nuts in comparison... On 11/27/2017 01:22 PM, Bill Prince wrote: So in addition to grand theft auto, you get to deal with the FCC for jamming licensed airwaves? Yeah. Why not go for the whole enchilada. bp

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Climber Insurance premium went 25k up for one guy.

2017-11-27 Thread Keefe John
What code are they rating your tower climber as?  How much are you paying this guy?  WC is a percentage of actual wages. Keefe On 11/27/2017 4:18 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: in colorado workman's comp is handled by a quasi government monopoly/private provider, they are the only entity that can

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts

2017-11-27 Thread Jason McKemie
I would expect them to just shut off if this were the case. On Monday, November 27, 2017, Robert Andrews wrote: > You would almost expect the cars on the Tesla Lot to have virtual walls, > that if they are driven out of without a release by the dealership, they > phone

Re: [AFMUG] Teach me about tower lights

2017-11-27 Thread Chuck McCown
I have thought about doing something similar many times over the years. I always figured I would have it learn the healthy current of the fully functional system with all lamps on and send an alarm if the current changed. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Monday, November 27,

[AFMUG] Teach me about tower lights

2017-11-27 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
One of the most popular questions/product requests I get is about tower light monitoring. It used to be that I sent people toward one of the off-the shelf tower light monitors with a contact output and then monitored that with a base unit. Unfortunately it seems that most of these only work with

Re: [AFMUG] Best NN Article I've Read

2017-11-27 Thread Mike Hammett
Traditionally, it would be Comcast's expense. Cogent doesn't pay to upgrade their connection to Midwest WiFi. Cogent was willing, Comcast was not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From:

Re: [AFMUG] Teach me about tower lights

2017-11-27 Thread Lewis Bergman
All the new controllers that I have seen have a dry contract for failures. Of course the controller has to be working. I am afraid there are about a dozen manufacturers each with several models. That's a pretty big matrix. We just installed one last week with steady side lights because the

Re: [AFMUG] Best NN Article I've Read

2017-11-27 Thread Adam Moffett
-- Original Message -- From: fiber...@mail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: 11/27/2017 3:07:26 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best NN Article I've Read I don't see where he's blaming transit providers for anything. See the paragraphs in the middle about Cogent. The transit provider was an