Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a new Truck/field Laptop

2018-05-21 Thread Darin Steffl
Look at used Lenovo on ebay. Lots of those are lease laptops and you can find plenty of them for cheap that are in decent condition still. That's where we buy all our work laptops. About $300 for a good 14" laptop with SSD drive. On Mon, May 21, 2018, 8:38 AM Nate Burke

Re: [AFMUG] spectrum customer calls me to fix their DVR

2018-05-21 Thread Jaime Solorza
Very common problem here with them. . They seem to close ports... using the DVR vendors cloud usually fixes it Jaime Solorza On Mon, May 21, 2018, 7:34 AM Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > I had a person call me and just start telling me how their DVR wasn't > working on

Re: [AFMUG] 8 mile link

2018-05-21 Thread Travis Johnson
The current signal level is -71. I have a 2ft dish on each side. Travis On 5/21/2018 9:15 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: Yeah... 900mhz PTP 450 is probably the best option. What kind of signal level do you get with the 2.4ghz radios? you could probably get a bit more out of it by going to

Re: [AFMUG] 8 mile link

2018-05-21 Thread Dave
Yeah, The 450i 900 system would definately do the trick How much bandwidth do you need? The 900 on a 10Mhz channel we see around 35Mbs in a noisy environment on 8x/4xmimoB rate. If your doing ptp with it then open it up to 20Mhz wide and bang on. On 05/21/2018 10:49 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] 8 mile link

2018-05-21 Thread Erich Kaiser
900 PTP 450 with KP Performance Antennas, I run mine 3 miles completely NLOS on 7 MHZ and it runs fine to my house. During heavy rain and through heavy foliage (Currently) this is what I am getting On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 11:53 AM, Dave wrote: > Yeah, The 450i 900

Re: [AFMUG] 8 mile link

2018-05-21 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
900 PTP 450 from Cambium Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > On May 21, 2018, at 11:05 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm looking for suggestions for an 8 mile link that will be shooting through > a single wall of

Re: [AFMUG] spectrum customer calls me to fix their DVR

2018-05-21 Thread Chuck McCown
You could have posed as a spectrum CRS and told the guy he was too stupid to own a DVR and hung up the phone. Or said we don’t support DVRs, only the WISPs do... or or From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 7:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] spectrum customer calls me

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a new Truck/field Laptop

2018-05-21 Thread Mathew Howard
Just get a Toughbook CF-19... they can be had on ebay for reasonable prices, they're small, you can see the screen outside, they have ethernet ports, and you can run it over with a truck without hurting it. On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Jeremy wrote: > I found some

Re: [AFMUG] 8 mile link

2018-05-21 Thread Mathew Howard
You could very likely get a bit more speed out of that by going to the new AC radios... my guess is that the airFibers would be even better, but I haven't used any of those in the 2.4ghz variety. On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:31 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: > The current signal level

[AFMUG] 8 mile link

2018-05-21 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I'm looking for suggestions for an 8 mile link that will be shooting through a single wall of trees about 1/8 mile from one end of the link. Currently using 2.4ghz Ubnt radios. Works great during the winter, but once the trees fill back in, the link drops to about 5Mbps actual

Re: [AFMUG] 8 mile link

2018-05-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Put down a quarter mile of fiber or CAT5 until you are on the other side of the trees. -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 9:05 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 8 mile link Hi, I'm looking for suggestions for an 8 mile link that will be shooting

Re: [AFMUG] 8 mile link

2018-05-21 Thread Travis Johnson
Ok. I'll give those a try and see what happens. Thanks. Travis On 5/21/2018 9:37 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: You could very likely get a bit more speed out of that by going to the new AC radios... my guess is that the airFibers would be even better, but I haven't used any of those in the 2.4ghz

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a new Truck/field Laptop

2018-05-21 Thread Robert
I just ordered an acer1 as it says it has a gigE port... On 5/21/18 7:12 AM, Jeremy wrote: I found some used toughbooks for $100 and bought two of them after he broke his last one.  He is still using the first one and we have one as a backup. On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 8:06 AM, Nate Burke

Re: [AFMUG] 8 mile link

2018-05-21 Thread Dave
Got a 3.65 license ? On 05/21/2018 10:05 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for suggestions for an 8 mile link that will be shooting through a single wall of trees about 1/8 mile from one end of the link. Currently using 2.4ghz Ubnt radios. Works great during the winter, but once

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a new Truck/field Laptop

2018-05-21 Thread Dave
USB ethernet fixes that :) On 05/21/2018 09:12 AM, David Coudron wrote: We have been using the Mikrotik mAP in the same fashion as Steve mentions with some pretty good results.   Put IP addresses on the one interface as needed and then connect wirelessly.   We were killing EIthernet ports

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a new Truck/field Laptop

2018-05-21 Thread David Coudron
We have been using the Mikrotik mAP in the same fashion as Steve mentions with some pretty good results. Put IP addresses on the one interface as needed and then connect wirelessly. We were killing EIthernet ports too often due to the stiffer shielded patch cables and cable runs on our

Re: [AFMUG] 8 mile link

2018-05-21 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah... 900mhz PTP 450 is probably the best option. What kind of signal level do you get with the 2.4ghz radios? you could probably get a bit more out of it by going to airFiber 2x or Rocket 2AC radios... and maybe a bigger dish. On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists

Re: [AFMUG] 8 mile link

2018-05-21 Thread Travis Johnson
Tried 3.65 and it wasn't as good as the 2.4. Travis On 5/21/2018 9:06 AM, Dave wrote: Got a 3.65 license ? On 05/21/2018 10:05 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for suggestions for an 8 mile link that will be shooting through a single wall of trees about 1/8 mile from one end of

[AFMUG] spectrum customer calls me to fix their DVR

2018-05-21 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I had a person call me and just start telling me how their DVR wasn't working on their remote view app anymore, finally figured out they had Spectrum internet service and not my WISP service. I told him that since spectrum is a competitor i Wouldn't be able to help him with that and told him if he

[AFMUG] Looking for a new Truck/field Laptop

2018-05-21 Thread Nate Burke
The Netbook I've been using for a the last couple years bit the dust on an install last week. Acer Aspire E11. It was working fine one minute, then the Ethernet adapter was not detected by windows anymore. Of course now-a-days nothing comes with a built in Ethernet adapter, I'd really hate

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a new Truck/field Laptop

2018-05-21 Thread Nate Burke
I've thought about the air-router approach, but probably 90% of my mikrotik work is with MAC-Winbox, setting up new routers. I just found the Acer Travelmate Spin B1. $330. Might pick one of those up and see how it works. On 5/21/2018 8:53 AM, Steve Jones wrote: I paid 1500 for my Toshiba

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a new Truck/field Laptop

2018-05-21 Thread Steve Jones
I paid 1500 for my Toshiba tecra (not toughbook) like 6 or 7 years ago, it's been through he'll in the field, roofs, grain elevators, rain, drops, left running in the bag and getting hot. It's on its 3rd battery, fourth keyboard, but runs strong and never fails, even has serial port. Price could

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a new Truck/field Laptop

2018-05-21 Thread Jeremy
I found some used toughbooks for $100 and bought two of them after he broke his last one. He is still using the first one and we have one as a backup. On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 8:06 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > I've thought about the air-router approach, but probably 90% of my >

Re: [AFMUG] OT NOC server choice

2018-05-21 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Prepare to pay , they're really uncommon in terms of how many are manufactured each year, vs ordinary 1RU/2RU or blade chassis servers. On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:55 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > As a tangent, I'm looking for a source for NEBS-compliant servers. > > > > -

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a new Truck/field Laptop

2018-05-21 Thread David Coudron
Very true. However, we found that if we have to carry the USB dongle anyway, that carrying the mAP instead gave us much more freedom and reliability (the USB dongles seemed a little flaky, if they got pulled sideways in the port, they didn’t work). We could even sit in the truck and work on

Re: [AFMUG] 8 mile link

2018-05-21 Thread Chuck McCown
700’ of cable and use as high capacity radios as you want. It really is not that far if you have property access. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 11:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 8 mile link Probably worth getting a spectrum analyzer that has 900 in its range,

Re: [AFMUG] OT NOC server choice

2018-05-21 Thread Chuck McCown
208 x 30 = 6240 watts. That is like having 4 portable electric heaters plugged in inside your rack. Obviously they have to have HVAC capable of pumping that out of the building. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 11:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT NOC server choice

Re: [AFMUG] OT NOC server choice

2018-05-21 Thread Mike Hammett
It doesn't have to be the latest\greatest. I've traditionally just bought whatever I could get my hands on that was cheap. However, this time around I may put a bit more consideration into efficiency. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The

Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

2018-05-21 Thread Eric Kuhnke
The published load limits on those are also NOT for hilltop exposure. If designing for 222G (and 222H is now published, people should be aware) there's different terrain exposure categories to take into account. Something on a hilltop or hillside needs to be calculated differently than in a flat

Re: [AFMUG] 8 mile link

2018-05-21 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah... but that only works if you have property access. On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > 700’ of cable and use as high capacity radios as you want. It really is > not that far if you have property access. > > *From:* Eric Kuhnke > *Sent:* Monday, May 21,

Re: [AFMUG] OT NOC server choice

2018-05-21 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Yes, exactly. In a 300 square foot suite in a major IX point you can easily run out of power + cooling before you run out of space. Meaning you could not populate several cabinets with 1RU servers densely. In real world use nobody sane will use more than 84% of the load capacity on a 30A circuit.

Re: [AFMUG] OT NOC server choice

2018-05-21 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I'm seeing some results for the Cisco UCS C240 M4 being NEBS-3 compliant in its DC version , which is about a 3 year old model now. If you don't need the very latest CPUs and system capability, might be able to find them from a used/refurb dealer. On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:59 AM, Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] OT NOC server choice

2018-05-21 Thread Bill Prince
One of our colos limits circuit loading to 80% of capacity. One of their reps explained to us that they don't really sell internet bandwidth, they just sell electricity at a significant markup. bp On 5/21/2018 12:08 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: In real world use nobody

Re: [AFMUG] 8 mile link

2018-05-21 Thread Mathew Howard
The problem with 900mhz, is that you never know if it's actually going to work in any given area until you try it. If there are 900mhz smart meters around, don't even bother... but even if there aren't, 900mhz can be pretty unpredictable in my experience. If you do go 900mhz, PTP450 is definitely

Re: [AFMUG] OT NOC server choice

2018-05-21 Thread Eric Kuhnke
In some older carrier hotel and IX sites it can be totally common to run out of power and air conditioning capacity in a suite before you run out of physical space. Or run into a power system bottleneck like needing a $70,000 NRC to upgrade new air conditioning and riser power capacity before you

Re: [AFMUG] OT NOC server choice

2018-05-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Sure, but probably less cost than getting colo where you don't need it just to avoid NEBS. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Eric Kuhnke" To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] 8 mile link

2018-05-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Maybe leapfrog with some back to back rockets or picos or whatever is cheap at the treeline. Solar powered. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 12:49 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 8 mile link Yeah... but that only works if you have property access. On Mon, May 21, 2018 at

Re: [AFMUG] OT NOC server choice

2018-05-21 Thread Mike Hammett
As a tangent, I'm looking for a source for NEBS-compliant servers. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 1:03:04 PM Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] 8 mile link

2018-05-21 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Probably worth getting a spectrum analyzer that has 900 in its range, and a 900 yagi, before spending the $2700+ on a 450i 900 AP and antenna. For the original poster's problem I would try, if possible, moving up to 3' dishes on both ends, and ac based radios. And using a 10 MHz channel. Might

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a new Truck/field Laptop

2018-05-21 Thread Sam Lambie
I have one of these and it has been great. https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-e-series/ThinkPad-E480/p/22TP2TEE480 On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 12:10 PM, David Coudron < david.coud...@advantenon.com> wrote: > Very true. However, we found that if we have to carry the USB dongle

[AFMUG] CAT6 qualifier/tester

2018-05-21 Thread Lewis Bergman
I find myself needing another CAT6 test kit. I really don't need fiber but that would be a bonus. The primary use case is to verify structured cable for our VoIP service. I have looked at the below testers and find them to all have some benefits and drawbacks as usual.. I was wondering if anyone

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a new Truck/field Laptop

2018-05-21 Thread Steve Jones
I've been thinking about switching to the map but haven't verified it can be poe powered and do poe out. I'd like the tools in the mikrotik right there. Romon could keep the mac winbox access, but I don't know if the tik phone app does that. On Mon, May 21, 2018, 1:10 PM David Coudron

Re: [AFMUG] 8 mile link

2018-05-21 Thread Steve Jones
Midpoints is what we try to get in these situations. If the customer is worth having, it's great, they handle the funny business with the midpoint property owner (usually they pay for that customers service) and it leaves you the ability to serve other customers on the other side of the tree line.

Re: [AFMUG] spectrum customer calls me to fix their DVR

2018-05-21 Thread Steve Jones
You should have politely assisted them in solving their problem. Then offered kind words about spectrum followed up with "I just wish their service and support were as good as ours so you would have to go through inconveniences like this" On Mon, May 21, 2018, 10:45 AM Chuck McCown