Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-08 Thread Mathew Howard
Yes, the 110 PTP does have a built in GPS. On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: > Does the 110PTP have a GPS built in? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 8, 2015, at 7:16 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) < > geo...@cbcast.com> wrote: > > If it has anything to do with the is

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-08 Thread Jon Langeler
Does the 110PTP have a GPS built in? Sent from my iPhone > On May 8, 2015, at 7:16 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) > wrote: > > If it has anything to do with the issue I brought up about the 3GHz 450 going > nuts and the APs saying they're losing sync briefly while the SyncInjector >

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.4

2015-05-08 Thread Josh Luthman
802.11 quality :P I can't really give you a good answer. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 8, 2015 10:59 PM, "John Woodfield" wrote: > Perfect, Thanks > > > > How has it performed in noisy environments? > > > > -Original Me

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.4

2015-05-08 Thread John Woodfield
Perfect, Thanks How has it performed in noisy environments? -Original Message- From: "Josh Luthman" Sent: Friday, May 8, 2015 10:48pm To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.4 Says 27 is max on my US radio. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne S

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.4

2015-05-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Says 27 is max on my US radio. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 8, 2015 10:41 PM, "John Woodfield" wrote: > Will they turn up above 21dbm? If I am using a 10dbi omni in a development > for example I would want them to run at 27

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.4

2015-05-08 Thread John Woodfield
Will they turn up above 21dbm? If I am using a 10dbi omni in a development for example I would want them to run at 27 to equal 36 EIRP with 1db loss on the jumpers. John Woodfield From: "Josh Luthman" Sent: Friday, May 8, 2015 9:19pm To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2

Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-08 Thread Glen Waldrop
Adequately conveyed! - Original Message - From: That One Guy /sarcasm To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] please reboot I take offense to that On May 8, 2015 7:41 PM, "Glen Waldrop" wrote: Well said! - Original Mes

Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I take offense to that On May 8, 2015 7:41 PM, "Glen Waldrop" wrote: > Well said! > > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Bill Prince > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Sent:* Friday, May 08, 2015 7:32 PM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot > > Only the people on this list... > > bp > > > > On

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.4

2015-05-08 Thread Josh Luthman
With my 90* sectors I can do 21dBm on 15dBi @ 10 MHz. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 8:39 PM, John Woodfield wrote: > What is the actual maximum TX power you can set these to US models? > > >

Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-08 Thread Glen Waldrop
Well said! - Original Message - From: Bill Prince To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] please reboot Only the people on this list... bp On 5/8/2015 5:28 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: If you eliminate the stupid and the easily offended,

[AFMUG] ePMP 2.4

2015-05-08 Thread John Woodfield
What is the actual maximum TX power you can set these to US models?

Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-08 Thread Bill Prince
Only the people on this list... bp On 5/8/2015 5:28 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: If you eliminate the stupid and the easily offended, how many people are left? *From:* Glen Waldrop *Sent:* Friday, May 08, 2015 7:00 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
If you eliminate the stupid and the easily offended, how many people are left? From: Glen Waldrop Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 7:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] please reboot I find stupid people and those easily offended offensive. - Original Message - From: Forrest C

Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-08 Thread Glen Waldrop
I find stupid people and those easily offended offensive. - Original Message - From: Forrest Christian (List Account) To: af Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] please reboot Personally, I'm starting to get a bit offended with the whole having to tip

Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-08 Thread Bill Prince
Just tell Steve, and let him do the offending. bp On 5/8/2015 3:49 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: Personally, I'm starting to get a bit offended with the whole having to tiptoe around trying to find the politically correct non-offensive word to describe someone or something. I

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-08 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
If it has anything to do with the issue I brought up about the 3GHz 450 going nuts and the APs saying they're losing sync briefly while the SyncInjector shows ZERO events for 1PPS active for months... It's NOT the damn SyncInjectors! It's not even surge suppressors in the path. I have observed

Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
Like “ISP” had become a pejorative term, so the government had to come up with the non-offensive term “BIAS Provider”. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 5:49 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] please reboot Personally, I'm starting to get a bit offended with the who

Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-08 Thread Tyler Treat
Amen to that ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On May 8, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) mailto

Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-08 Thread Josh Luthman
...or worry about more important things going on instead of the use of one particular word. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > Personally

Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-08 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Personally, I'm starting to get a bit offended with the whole having to tiptoe around trying to find the politically correct non-offensive word to describe someone or something. I understand there are some terms for groups of people which are just plain offensive. But this whole "this term that u

Re: [AFMUG] Customers And Zodiac

2015-05-08 Thread Bill Prince
Roger that! And I'm not leaving! Weather beats the dickens out of Minnesota (and Illinois, and Washington). bp On 5/8/2015 3:25 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: You moved there voluntarily Mark On 5/8/15 4:11 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: Hey. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Be

Re: [AFMUG] Customers And Zodiac

2015-05-08 Thread Mark Radabaugh
You moved there voluntarily Mark On 5/8/15 4:11 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: Hey. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 12:02 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customers And Zodiac Nah, we reserve the laughing st

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-08 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I'll let others speak to the stability (as a couple already have). A few months ago there was an issue with a mutual customer of mine and cambium's which was having sync problems with an epmp radio. To date, I don't know if the problem was with the epmp, or with the injector, or with a gps lock,

Re: [AFMUG] Dropping Chinese & Korean IP's in Mikrotik

2015-05-08 Thread Glen Waldrop
The problem we run into is that those same folks that are attacking our equipment are attacking the equipment behind our routers. It is comparatively simple to secure our routers, not quite as easy to secure everything behind them, stuff that isn't ours. - Original Message - From:

Re: [AFMUG] P-36 Tower Mount

2015-05-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Would have been super nice to have this on the tower today... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Traci wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] Dropping Chinese & Korean IP's in Mikrotik

2015-05-08 Thread Sean Heskett
Plus whenever the net neutrality rules kick in it'll be illegal. Shouldn't be necessary if you have your firewalls setup correctly. 2 cents -Sean On Friday, May 8, 2015, Paul Stewart wrote: > Ouch… are you sure you want to do that? I wouldn’t ever tell someone how > to run their company or

Re: [AFMUG] Laying your own fiber?

2015-05-08 Thread Mike Hammett
Don't build a headend, just wholesale someone else's out of the carrier hotel you got transport to for your transit. My cost of entry would be under $100k for a complete system including local channels. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest I

Re: [AFMUG] Customers And Zodiac

2015-05-08 Thread SmarterBroadband
Hey. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 12:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customers And Zodiac Nah, we reserve the laughing stock designation for California.Keep up the good work and Texas might catch up eventu

Re: [AFMUG] Laying your own fiber?

2015-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown
Avoid CLEC. Unnecessary expense and paperwork. And now, with the latest FCC net neutrality order, you have the same rights as any public utility company to access ROWs. Just apply for excavation permits. Whoever owns the ROW will grant them to you. On private land you may have to pay. E

Re: [AFMUG] Dropping Chinese & Korean IP's in Mikrotik

2015-05-08 Thread Paul Stewart
Ouch. are you sure you want to do that? I wouldn't ever tell someone how to run their company or network but you are just hiding in my opinion from the problems you are possibly having. What about Romania for example? I've seen a few ISP's block whole countries and it wasn't pretty.. People c

[AFMUG] Items for Sale

2015-05-08 Thread Yent, Timothy M
Motorola/Cambium Used 2.4 6dB Stingers 21 2.4 SM's 2400SM 19 2450APP10 Connectorized 2 2.4 Test Adapter 1 Ubiquiti Bullet M2

Re: [AFMUG] Dropping Chinese & Korean IP's in Mikrotik

2015-05-08 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Take a look at this blog.. http://blog.erben.sk/2014/02/06/country-cidr-ip-ranges/ Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message ---

[AFMUG] Dropping Chinese & Korean IP's in Mikrotik

2015-05-08 Thread Michael Gawlowski
I have a blocklist of IP's and CIDR ranges that I would like to add in my mikrotik 1100's and 2011's. Two questions: 1) What is the best way to add these without doing one address or subnet at a time? 2) Will there be a significant impact on router performance from adding so many r

Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5

2015-05-08 Thread Mark Radabaugh
We used to have a lot of issues with the feed horns that were two halves glued (welded?) together getting water in them an corroding the feed. The later version with a one-piece 'tub' and the cover welded on the front seemed to hold up better. Or not - kind of hard to say since we pulled mo

Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5

2015-05-08 Thread Glen Waldrop
As I said above, I'm not buying any more of them. Single polarity. So far I've not had any issues aside from the water problem. The grids, brackets, etc, all still look almost as good as the day we installed them. - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof To: af@afmug.com Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5

2015-05-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
Do not get the wire grids, they rust terribly after a few years. Get the diecast grids, same feed, no rust. L-Com sells them. Actually, don’t use grids period, single pol is a thing of the past. From: Glen Waldrop Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 12:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nan

Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5

2015-05-08 Thread Glen Waldrop
Laird Technologies GD58-29 and GD58-26, formerly PacWireless. Good antennas, signal usually worked out right on target. - Original Message - From: Colin Stanners To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5 Which models of grids

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone familiar with Total Access 924 (1st Gen)?

2015-05-08 Thread Paul Stewart
Sure. what do you want to know? :) Here's a working config if it helps: hostname "xxx" enable password encrypted ! clock timezone -5-Eastern-Time ! ip subnet-zero ip classless ip default-gateway xx.xx.xxx.xxx ip routing ! ! ip domain-n

Re: [AFMUG] Small Batteries

2015-05-08 Thread Trey Scarborough
I would check with your local security system company they buy these things in bulk. They can let you know the best place to purchase them from some may be willing to add some to there order for you. The thing with any batteries like this is the shipping. Whoever has a local supplier will usual

[AFMUG] Anyone familiar with Total Access 924 (1st Gen)?

2015-05-08 Thread can...@believewireless.net
I need help getting it configured for a client to connect to their PRI.

[AFMUG] woman sues Verizon for giving her a heart attack

2015-05-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
So remember to be super nice to your customers on the phone. And record the calls. http://hamptonroads.com/2015/05/woman-claims-verizon-wireless-gave-her-heart-attack

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-08 Thread chuck
+1000 You cannot go wrong with Forrest. From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Friday, May 8, 2015 11:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear PacketFlux stuff works fine. Forrest isn't stupid. And his stuff is a hell of a lot cheaper to

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-08 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
PacketFlux stuff works fine. Forrest isn't stupid. And his stuff is a hell of a lot cheaper to replace if it dies. If it wasn't for his stuff, we wouldn't be using as much Moto/Cambium gear. Same can be said for WB and LMG. On 5/8/2015 7:45 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5

2015-05-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
I once bought a Til-Tek 2.4 GHz grid antenna, it was something ridiculous like $1000 but it was built like a tank. Got it from LMG. Build to order. I don’t know what I was thinking. http://www.til-tek.com/doc/TA-2436.pdf They even have a bigger version. From: Colin Stanners Sent: Friday,

Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5

2015-05-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
They have not been released yet. Expect to here more in late July / Early August. On May 8, 2015 8:18:22 AM AKDT, Bill Prince wrote: >Who's using these? > >What's inside the "Simper"? > >bp > > >On 5/7/2015 8:42 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> I could almost convince myself these make sense: >> >http:/

Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5

2015-05-08 Thread Bill Prince
Who's using these? What's inside the "Simper"? bp On 5/7/2015 8:42 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I could almost convince myself these make sense: http://simper.rfelements.com/assets/Uploads/UltraDish-TP-Datasheet.pdf http://simper.rfelements.com/assets/Uploads/Simper-Radio-Adaptors-Datasheet.pdf The

Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5

2015-05-08 Thread Colin Stanners
Which models of grids are those? We don't use the cheaper professionally but I have some old ones I was going to use for my amateur radio wifi project. On May 8, 2015 10:38 AM, "Glen Waldrop" wrote: > Apparently the feed of the PacWireless grids I am using pulls in > moisture. After a hot day, g

Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5

2015-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown
That is always the problem with sealed stuff. It has to be really sealed well and last forever. Otherwise best to have a weep hole. From: Glen Waldrop Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 9:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5 Apparently the feed of the PacWireless grids I am usin

Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5

2015-05-08 Thread Glen Waldrop
Apparently the feed of the PacWireless grids I am using pulls in moisture. After a hot day, good rain and a 20*F temperature drop they suck in water and ruin the feed. These had already been in the air for years, most were purchased back in 2008. Started failing around 2012. Shame too, they wer

Re: [AFMUG] Customers And Zodiac

2015-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown
In (insert name of any southern state) even if you divorce your wife, she is still your sister. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 9:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customers And Zodiac I bet they would be good. Bill Prince wrote: I should t

Re: [AFMUG] Customers And Zodiac

2015-05-08 Thread Jay Weekley
Yeah, let another state take the heat for a while. Now, I'm off to banjo practice. Glen Waldrop wrote: Indeed. I'm suddenly feeling better about Alabama. - Original Message - From: "Jay Weekley" To: Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customers And Zodiac

Re: [AFMUG] Customers And Zodiac

2015-05-08 Thread Jay Weekley
I bet they would be good. Bill Prince wrote: I should tell some of my Alabama jokes... bp On 5/7/2015 2:27 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: Thank God for California and Texas. Mark Radabaugh wrote: Nah, we reserve the laughing stock designation for California. Keep up the good work and Texas mi

Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown
I am occidental, they are oriental. Just a different way of saying from the west and east. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 7:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] please reboot Yeah, I think that's just made up, though. Something to make us feel bad about. All kinds of

Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-08 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Maybe the 'orientals' are laughing, about how the white boy had to drive 50 miles to reset the breaker (which most likely was made in the orient) :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or

Re: [AFMUG] access to a public BTEST server

2015-05-08 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I think mine at 50.114.231.72 is still open. Let me know if you can't get in. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Friday, May 8, 2015 6:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] access to a public BTEST server Is there a current BTEST server in the wild that I can

[AFMUG] Managing traffic at the port level in ePMP

2015-05-08 Thread Ray Savich
Get the details on Management, Data, and Membership VLANs in ePMP at http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-Networking/How-is-Management-Data-and-Membership-VLANs-traffic-handled-at/m-p/40383 Join the Conversation Cambium Networks Community Forum

Re: [AFMUG] Vivint wireless

2015-05-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
Tunnels dude tunnels...its the new rage Jaime Solorza On May 7, 2015 9:44 PM, "Brett A Mansfield" wrote: > Hehe. The NSA building can be seen perfectly from the Vivint Wireless > building and vice-versa. I pass them both multiple times daily. I never > thought the two buildings could be linked.

[AFMUG] FS: Canopy FSK 2.4 and 900 devices

2015-05-08 Thread Josh Luthman
All are working pulls http://i.imgur.com/EKlbxuF.jpg 2x 2450AP 7x 2400SM + 2 stingers 1x 900AP 3x 900SM + stinger, 14db yagi I want this stuff gone. Give me a decent offer and I'll send it your way!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 4537

Re: [AFMUG] Customers And Zodiac

2015-05-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
Maybe his blend of herbs got laced with insecticide Jaime Solorza On May 7, 2015 10:42 AM, "Nate Burke" wrote: > Had a new one today. Customer want's our service, but won't let us > install for 4 weeks because 'Mercury is going into Retrograde, and if you > install it during that time it just

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Questions

2015-05-08 Thread Mike Hammett
Thanks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, May 8, 2015 8:20:33 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Questions

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Questions

2015-05-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
A SyncInjector will power a SyncPipe Basic, just run a cable to it. SiteMonitor Base comes with a DIN rail clip. You have to order a (different) DIN rail clip for a SyncInjector. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 8:11 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Questions Is a

Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5

2015-05-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
What would cause an antenna to fail after 4 years, other than target practice or falling ice? Hose off the bird poop and they should be good as new. From: Glen Waldrop Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 10:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5 Looks nice. I'm a bit scared to che

[AFMUG] PacketFlux Questions

2015-05-08 Thread Mike Hammett
Is a SyncPipe Basic powered by a SyncInjector or do I need that other power supply? Will the PF DIN rail mount work on the SiteMonitor Base or other modules like the PDU? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.mi

[AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-08 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
General question here. I saw something in the Cambium forum questioning the reliability of Packet flux Sync Injectors. If you use them, are your GPS syncs stable and is power output reliable on the 450 and ePMP gear? Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce D

Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge M5

2015-05-08 Thread Chris Fabien
We have used nanobridges for ptp links up to about 6-7 miles with good results. They max out around 70megs due to cpu power. Longer than that and we use 2ft dishes. Nanobridges are outdated now though, i wouldn't use them for a new link. On May 7, 2015 9:32 PM, "Glen Waldrop" wrote: > I've got a

[AFMUG] access to a public BTEST server

2015-05-08 Thread Paul McCall
Is there a current BTEST server in the wild that I can test against? I only need to test far less than 100Mbit/sec from customer routers) Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com