Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread David

What Band is the Telrad on?


On 06/10/2015 06:38 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:

This come from a third party. Zirkel sent this to ISP Supplies.
-- Forwarded message --
From: Steve Discher sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
Date: Jun 10, 2015 6:32 PM
Subject: [Telrad] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz
To: tel...@wispa.org tel...@wispa.org
Cc:

I received this testimonial from a customer today via text message
and thought it worth sharing. I am attaching a screenshot so
everyone knows it is authentic.

This is from Sean Heskett with Zirkel Wireless in Steamboat
Springs Colorado.




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Re: [AFMUG] ATT Towers

2015-06-11 Thread joseph marsh
I have a account with them
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Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
3.65.  Have you been asleep since Wispamerica?!


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On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:43 AM, David dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:

  What Band is the Telrad on?


 On 06/10/2015 06:38 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:

  This come from a third party. Zirkel sent this to ISP Supplies.
  -- Forwarded message --
 From: Steve Discher sdisc...@ispsupplies.com sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
 Date: Jun 10, 2015 6:32 PM
 Subject: [Telrad] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz
 To: tel...@wispa.org tel...@wispa.org tel...@wispa.org
 tel...@wispa.org
 Cc:

  I received this testimonial from a customer today via text message and
 thought it worth sharing. I am attaching a screenshot so everyone knows it
 is authentic.

  This is from Sean Heskett with Zirkel Wireless in Steamboat Springs
 Colorado.




 Steve Discher

 sdisc...@ispsupplies.com

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Re: [AFMUG] optima battery preference for battery boxes

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
BatteriesPlus?  Make sure you say you're a company and you need to make an
account.  They gave me a 50%+ lesser price on my UPS batteries!!!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:

  I looked at the batteries at Sam's club recently, my problem was they
 only had a few on the shelf and they wouldn't order more for me.  They said
 if you buy these, the shelf will be empty and more will automatically get
 delivered, but I couldn't just order a whole bunch.  Not sure if I was just
 talking to the wrong guy or what.

 They were also a little light.  They were the right size for Group 31
 batteries, but they were (IIRC) 10 or 11 lbs lighter than others.  All else
 being equal, less weight = less capacity.

 On 6/11/2015 10:37 AM, Jeremy wrote:

 Blue Top...however, if you are going to use Johnson Controls AGM batteries
 you'd be better off using the Energizer from Sam's Club or the Duralast
 from Autozone.  Both of those are just rebranded Johnson Controls
 batteries, and will save you some cash.

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:

 Those are CCA batteries.  You want AH batteries.  I wouldn't spend my
 money on Optima...


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote:

  Blue Top or Yellow Top?





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Re: [AFMUG] ATT Towers

2015-06-11 Thread joseph marsh
On Jun 11, 2015 10:07 AM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com wrote:

 Give me a few and. I'll send u the whole site list
 On Jun 11, 2015 10:02 AM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a account with them
 On Jun 11, 2015 10:01 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Does anyone have an active login for ATT Towers? Mine seems to have
 expired. Was just looking for their site export. Could someone send that to
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Re: [AFMUG] optima battery preference for battery boxes

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
I got myself a handful of these for an APC.  12v 33ah for $76.  Four of
these give me 6 hours of run time with 8 APs/BHs + 2 switches + 3 media
converters

http://www.batteriesplus.com/product_search/41474-SV32-Styleview-Cart-Battery-66Ah-System-Ergotron-Approved-System-Requires-2-Batteries-97--479--1.aspx


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote:

  My understanding is that Optima came in two types (in each color).  One
 (darker case) was for starting (CCA) and the lighter gray was for runtime
 (AH)



 I know we have run both colors (in deep cycle mode) for several years and
 had decent results.  We started building battery boxes for our towers 4
 years ago and haven’t replaced a battery yet, using only the Optima Deep
 cycle versions  (and, yes they get used a lot in Florida)



 But, we had used Yellow and Blue tops deep cycle and I cant recall why J



 Paul



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:30 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] optima battery preference for battery boxes



 Those are CCA batteries.  You want AH batteries.  I wouldn't spend my
 money on Optima...




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 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote:

 Blue Top or Yellow Top?





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 PDMNet / Florida Broadband

 658 Old Dixie Highway

 Vero Beach, FL 32962

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Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
interesting

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com
wrote:

  This come from a third party. Zirkel sent this to ISP Supplies.
  -- Forwarded message --
 From: Steve Discher sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
 Date: Jun 10, 2015 6:32 PM
 Subject: [Telrad] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz
 To: tel...@wispa.org tel...@wispa.org
 Cc:

  I received this testimonial from a customer today via text message and
 thought it worth sharing. I am attaching a screenshot so everyone knows it
 is authentic.

  This is from Sean Heskett with Zirkel Wireless in Steamboat Springs
 Colorado.




 Steve Discher

 sdisc...@ispsupplies.com

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Re: [AFMUG] ATT Towers

2015-06-11 Thread joseph marsh
Give me a few and. I'll send u the whole site list
On Jun 11, 2015 10:02 AM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a account with them
 On Jun 11, 2015 10:01 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Does anyone have an active login for ATT Towers? Mine seems to have
 expired. Was just looking for their site export. Could someone send that to
 me? Thanks.



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Re: [AFMUG] ATT Towers

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Would you mind copying me on that?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:07 AM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Give me a few and. I'll send u the whole site list
 On Jun 11, 2015 10:02 AM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a account with them
 On Jun 11, 2015 10:01 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Does anyone have an active login for ATT Towers? Mine seems to have
 expired. Was just looking for their site export. Could someone send that to
 me? Thanks.



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Re: [AFMUG] optima battery preference for battery boxes

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Those are CCA batteries.  You want AH batteries.  I wouldn't spend my money
on Optima...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote:

  Blue Top or Yellow Top?





 Paul McCall, Pres.

 PDMNet / Florida Broadband

 658 Old Dixie Highway

 Vero Beach, FL 32962

 772-564-6800 office

 772-473-0352 cell

 www.pdmnet.com

 pa...@pdmnet.net





Re: [AFMUG] optima battery preference for battery boxes

2015-06-11 Thread Adam Moffett
In other words you want a deep cycle battery, not a starting battery.  
Not that the starting battery won't work, but deep discharging hurts it 
more.


We just bought a bunch of Exide MC-31.  125ah AGM, 70lbs each.  Free 
shipping via Amazon Prime.

McCown likes Enersys Genesis (or he advocated them in the past).

Paul: What kind of battery box are you using?  I'm going through this 
right now myself and I am worried about adequate ventilation.



On 6/11/2015 10:30 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Those are CCA batteries.  You want AH batteries.  I wouldn't spend my 
money on Optima...



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net 
mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net wrote:


Blue Top or Yellow Top?

Paul McCall, Pres.

PDMNet / Florida Broadband

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800 tel:772-564-6800 office

772-473-0352 tel:772-473-0352 cell

www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/

pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net






Re: [AFMUG] optima battery preference for battery boxes

2015-06-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
I don’t have personal experience, but from the Optima website FAQ:

Note: The difference between BLUETOP® and YELLOWTOP® deep-cycle batteries is 
that BLUETOP® batteries have both automotive (SAE) posts and threaded studs, 
while YELLOWTOP®S (other than D31T) only have SAE terminals.

If you ever get confused on the colored tops, just remember: if it has a dark 
gray case, then it’s a starting battery; if it has a light gray case, then it’s 
a deep-cycle (dual-purpose) battery.


From: Paul McCall 
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 9:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] optima battery preference for battery boxes

Blue Top or Yellow Top?

 

 

Paul McCall, Pres.

PDMNet / Florida Broadband 

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800 office

772-473-0352 cell

www.pdmnet.com

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Re: [AFMUG] optima battery preference for battery boxes

2015-06-11 Thread Paul McCall
My understanding is that Optima came in two types (in each color).  One (darker 
case) was for starting (CCA) and the lighter gray was for runtime (AH)

I know we have run both colors (in deep cycle mode) for several years and had 
decent results.  We started building battery boxes for our towers 4 years ago 
and haven’t replaced a battery yet, using only the Optima Deep cycle versions  
(and, yes they get used a lot in Florida)

But, we had used Yellow and Blue tops deep cycle and I cant recall why ☺

Paul

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] optima battery preference for battery boxes

Those are CCA batteries.  You want AH batteries.  I wouldn't spend my money on 
Optima...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Paul McCall 
pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net wrote:
Blue Top or Yellow Top?


Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800tel:772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352tel:772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/
pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net




[AFMUG] optima battery preference for battery boxes

2015-06-11 Thread Paul McCall
Blue Top or Yellow Top?


Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/
pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net



Re: [AFMUG] optima battery preference for battery boxes

2015-06-11 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah... neither one looks like a great option - they both appear to be dual
use, you generally want a real deep cycle

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 Those are CCA batteries.  You want AH batteries.  I wouldn't spend my
 money on Optima...


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote:

  Blue Top or Yellow Top?





 Paul McCall, Pres.

 PDMNet / Florida Broadband

 658 Old Dixie Highway

 Vero Beach, FL 32962

 772-564-6800 office

 772-473-0352 cell

 www.pdmnet.com

 pa...@pdmnet.net







[AFMUG] ATT Towers

2015-06-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Does anyone have an active login for ATT Towers? Mine seems to have expired. 
Was just looking for their site export. Could someone send that to me? Thanks. 




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Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

2015-06-11 Thread Christopher Tyler
I would also be interested in hearing about it. I didn't see the original 
message so I can't reply off list as I don't have your email address :)

-- 
Christopher Tyler 
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
Total Highspeed Internet Services 
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 10:18:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

Oh definitely, I really love Skydog and am dreading the day it turns off (no 
thanks to Comcast for killing it).

I’ll email you.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 5:07 PM
To: af
Subject: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

Hi folks,

For those of you who remember SkyDog, I have an (better) alternative that is 
operator focused and looking for beta customers.  Hit me offlist and I can get 
you connected.  I saw the demo last week and was very impressed.

Thanks,
-Hal

--

Harold Bledsoe


Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

2015-06-11 Thread joseph marsh
Interested  as well
On Jun 11, 2015 11:23 AM, Christopher Tyler ch...@totalhighspeed.net
wrote:

 I would also be interested in hearing about it. I didn't see the original
 message so I can't reply off list as I don't have your email address :)

 --
 Christopher Tyler
 MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
 Total Highspeed Internet Services
 417.851.1107

 - Original Message -
 From: Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 10:18:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

 Oh definitely, I really love Skydog and am dreading the day it turns off
 (no thanks to Comcast for killing it).

 I’ll email you.

 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe
 Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 5:07 PM
 To: af
 Subject: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

 Hi folks,

 For those of you who remember SkyDog, I have an (better) alternative that
 is operator focused and looking for beta customers.  Hit me offlist and I
 can get you connected.  I saw the demo last week and was very impressed.

 Thanks,
 -Hal

 --

 Harold Bledsoe



[AFMUG] Dumb Rocket dish compatibility question

2015-06-11 Thread Jay Weekley
We have an extra dish that was originally paired with a 3.65 Rocket but 
now we need to install a 5.7 link for a new location.  Are the dishes 
sold for the 3.65 Rockets compatible with a 5.7 Rocket?


Re: [AFMUG] Dumb Rocket dish compatibility question

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
I believe if you just change the feedhorns out, yes.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net
wrote:

 We have an extra dish that was originally paired with a 3.65 Rocket but
 now we need to install a 5.7 link for a new location.  Are the dishes sold
 for the 3.65 Rockets compatible with a 5.7 Rocket?



Re: [AFMUG] Dumb Rocket dish compatibility question

2015-06-11 Thread Jeremy
No

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net
wrote:

 We have an extra dish that was originally paired with a 3.65 Rocket but
 now we need to install a 5.7 link for a new location.  Are the dishes sold
 for the 3.65 Rockets compatible with a 5.7 Rocket?



Re: [AFMUG] Dumb Rocket dish compatibility question

2015-06-11 Thread Jeremy
Yeah, if you change the feedhorn maybe.  Does anyone sell the feedhorn by
itself?

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 I believe if you just change the feedhorns out, yes.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net
 wrote:

 We have an extra dish that was originally paired with a 3.65 Rocket but
 now we need to install a 5.7 link for a new location.  Are the dishes sold
 for the 3.65 Rockets compatible with a 5.7 Rocket?





Re: [AFMUG] Dumb Rocket dish compatibility question

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Seriously doubt it.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 11, 2015 12:56 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, if you change the feedhorn maybe.  Does anyone sell the feedhorn by
 itself?

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 I believe if you just change the feedhorns out, yes.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net
 wrote:

 We have an extra dish that was originally paired with a 3.65 Rocket but
 now we need to install a 5.7 link for a new location.  Are the dishes sold
 for the 3.65 Rockets compatible with a 5.7 Rocket?






Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

2015-06-11 Thread Paul Stewart
What the heck is SkyDog?

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Tyler
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 12:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

I would also be interested in hearing about it. I didn't see the original 
message so I can't reply off list as I don't have your email address :)

-- 
Christopher Tyler 
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
Total Highspeed Internet Services 
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 10:18:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

Oh definitely, I really love Skydog and am dreading the day it turns off (no 
thanks to Comcast for killing it).

I’ll email you.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 5:07 PM
To: af
Subject: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

Hi folks,

For those of you who remember SkyDog, I have an (better) alternative that is 
operator focused and looking for beta customers.  Hit me offlist and I can get 
you connected.  I saw the demo last week and was very impressed.

Thanks,
-Hal

--

Harold Bledsoe



Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Wasn't it a filtering service done on the customer's router?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote:

 What the heck is SkyDog?

 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Tyler
 Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 12:22 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

 I would also be interested in hearing about it. I didn't see the original
 message so I can't reply off list as I don't have your email address :)

 --
 Christopher Tyler
 MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
 Total Highspeed Internet Services
 417.851.1107

 - Original Message -
 From: Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 10:18:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

 Oh definitely, I really love Skydog and am dreading the day it turns off
 (no thanks to Comcast for killing it).

 I’ll email you.

 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe
 Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 5:07 PM
 To: af
 Subject: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

 Hi folks,

 For those of you who remember SkyDog, I have an (better) alternative that
 is operator focused and looking for beta customers.  Hit me offlist and I
 can get you connected.  I saw the demo last week and was very impressed.

 Thanks,
 -Hal

 --

 Harold Bledsoe




Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

2015-06-11 Thread Sterling Jacobson
It’s a cloud hosted filtering service.

The router is only OK IMO, being a Wireless N router with GigE ports.
It can only do about 150Mbps of traffic across the WAN interface though.

The cool thing is I can change and turn on/off the kids access to their kindles 
and devices from my phone from anywhere I have internet access. Very useful, 
full of features, and near instantaneous.


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 11:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

Wasn't it a filtering service done on the customer's router?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Paul Stewart 
p...@paulstewart.orgmailto:p...@paulstewart.org wrote:
What the heck is SkyDog?

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Christopher Tyler
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 12:22 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

I would also be interested in hearing about it. I didn't see the original 
message so I can't reply off list as I don't have your email address :)

--
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107tel:417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.netmailto:sterl...@avative.net
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 10:18:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

Oh definitely, I really love Skydog and am dreading the day it turns off (no 
thanks to Comcast for killing it).

I’ll email you.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Harold Bledsoe
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 5:07 PM
To: af
Subject: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

Hi folks,

For those of you who remember SkyDog, I have an (better) alternative that is 
operator focused and looking for beta customers.  Hit me offlist and I can get 
you connected.  I saw the demo last week and was very impressed.

Thanks,
-Hal

--

Harold Bledsoe



[AFMUG] Quick Mikrotik Question about MAC Address Tables

2015-06-11 Thread Sterling Jacobson
This has always frustrated me, but I still don't see where one can see a MAC 
address of an IP ARP assignment PER INTERFACE!

Is that possible?


Re: [AFMUG] Quick Mikrotik Question about MAC Address Tables

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
What are you looking at???

[image: Inline image 1]


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net
wrote:

 This has always frustrated me, but I still don't see where one can see a
 MAC address of an IP ARP assignment PER INTERFACE!

 Is that possible?



Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

2015-06-11 Thread Harold Bledsoe
Agreed on SkyDog's speed - just not enough.  This one does what you mention
on the control/filtering plus is dualband concurrent 11ac.

I'll follow up with the other on-list interested parties.  Again this is
not an IgniteNet product - just a friend looking for interested beta
customers.  I see it as another potential revenue stream for you guys.

-Hal

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net
wrote:

  It’s a cloud hosted filtering service.



 The router is only OK IMO, being a Wireless N router with GigE ports.

 It can only do about 150Mbps of traffic across the WAN interface though.



 The cool thing is I can change and turn on/off the kids access to their
 kindles and devices from my phone from anywhere I have internet access.
 Very useful, full of features, and near instantaneous.





 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 11:03 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative



 Wasn't it a filtering service done on the customer's router?




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
 wrote:

 What the heck is SkyDog?


 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Tyler
 Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 12:22 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

 I would also be interested in hearing about it. I didn't see the original
 message so I can't reply off list as I don't have your email address :)

 --
 Christopher Tyler
 MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
 Total Highspeed Internet Services
 417.851.1107

 - Original Message -
 From: Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 10:18:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

 Oh definitely, I really love Skydog and am dreading the day it turns off
 (no thanks to Comcast for killing it).

 I’ll email you.

 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe
 Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 5:07 PM
 To: af
 Subject: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

 Hi folks,

 For those of you who remember SkyDog, I have an (better) alternative that
 is operator focused and looking for beta customers.  Hit me offlist and I
 can get you connected.  I saw the demo last week and was very impressed.

 Thanks,
 -Hal

 --

 Harold Bledsoe






-- 

Harold Bledsoe


Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
I'd be interested in it if we can do some sort of ACL or DNS method.  I'm
not interested in replacing my customers' routers.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Harold Bledsoe hbledso...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Agreed on SkyDog's speed - just not enough.  This one does what you
 mention on the control/filtering plus is dualband concurrent 11ac.

 I'll follow up with the other on-list interested parties.  Again this is
 not an IgniteNet product - just a friend looking for interested beta
 customers.  I see it as another potential revenue stream for you guys.

 -Hal

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net
 wrote:

  It’s a cloud hosted filtering service.



 The router is only OK IMO, being a Wireless N router with GigE ports.

 It can only do about 150Mbps of traffic across the WAN interface though.



 The cool thing is I can change and turn on/off the kids access to their
 kindles and devices from my phone from anywhere I have internet access.
 Very useful, full of features, and near instantaneous.





 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 11:03 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative



 Wasn't it a filtering service done on the customer's router?




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
 wrote:

 What the heck is SkyDog?


 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Tyler
 Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 12:22 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

 I would also be interested in hearing about it. I didn't see the original
 message so I can't reply off list as I don't have your email address :)

 --
 Christopher Tyler
 MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
 Total Highspeed Internet Services
 417.851.1107

 - Original Message -
 From: Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 10:18:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

 Oh definitely, I really love Skydog and am dreading the day it turns off
 (no thanks to Comcast for killing it).

 I’ll email you.

 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe
 Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 5:07 PM
 To: af
 Subject: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

 Hi folks,

 For those of you who remember SkyDog, I have an (better) alternative that
 is operator focused and looking for beta customers.  Hit me offlist and I
 can get you connected.  I saw the demo last week and was very impressed.

 Thanks,
 -Hal

 --

 Harold Bledsoe






 --

 Harold Bledsoe



[AFMUG] Ouray Colorado

2015-06-11 Thread Chuck McCown
Anyone serve there?

Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

2015-06-11 Thread Travis Johnson
We were making $2,000+/month net profit off our filtering service. It 
was a server from 8e6 that was located in our data center. We did a 36 
month lease on the server and all updates and I think it was costing us 
like $1,000/month. We were billing $3,500/month in filtering services.


Travis

On 6/11/2015 11:24 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I'd be interested in it if we can do some sort of ACL or DNS method.  
I'm not interested in replacing my customers' routers.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Harold Bledsoe hbledso...@gmail.com 
mailto:hbledso...@gmail.com wrote:


Agreed on SkyDog's speed - just not enough. This one does what you
mention on the control/filtering plus is dualband concurrent 11ac.

I'll follow up with the other on-list interested parties.  Again
this is not an IgniteNet product - just a friend looking for
interested beta customers.  I see it as another potential revenue
stream for you guys.

-Hal

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Sterling Jacobson
sterl...@avative.net mailto:sterl...@avative.net wrote:

It’s a cloud hosted filtering service.

The router is only OK IMO, being a Wireless N router with GigE
ports.

It can only do about 150Mbps of traffic across the WAN
interface though.

The cool thing is I can change and turn on/off the kids access
to their kindles and devices from my phone from anywhere I
have internet access. Very useful, full of features, and near
instantaneous.

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 11:03 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

Wasn't it a filtering service done on the customer's router?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Paul Stewart
p...@paulstewart.org mailto:p...@paulstewart.org wrote:

What the heck is SkyDog?


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Tyler
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 12:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

I would also be interested in hearing about it. I didn't
see the original message so I can't reply off list as I
don't have your email address :)

--
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107 tel:417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net
mailto:sterl...@avative.net
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 10:18:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

Oh definitely, I really love Skydog and am dreading the
day it turns off (no thanks to Comcast for killing it).

I’ll email you.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 5:07 PM
To: af
Subject: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

Hi folks,

For those of you who remember SkyDog, I have an (better)
alternative that is operator focused and looking for beta
customers.  Hit me offlist and I can get you connected.  I
saw the demo last week and was very impressed.

Thanks,
-Hal

--

Harold Bledsoe




-- 


Harold Bledsoe






Re: [AFMUG] optima battery preference for battery boxes

2015-06-11 Thread George Skorup
We had a pair of yellow tops on an old APC 1500RM2U for about 7 years. 
We abused it quite a bit and it worked great. One of them finally gave 
up the ghost and ended up with a shorted cell. At that point, the fan 
was dead so we chucked it and used the good battery in one of the trucks.


There's no reason to do something like that again today. Use AGMs 
designed for the application, telco, UPS, etc.


On 6/11/2015 9:54 AM, Paul McCall wrote:


My understanding is that Optima came in two types (in each color).  
One (darker case) was for starting (CCA) and the lighter gray was for 
runtime (AH)


I know we have run both colors (in deep cycle mode) for several years 
and had decent results.  We started building battery boxes for our 
towers 4 years ago and haven’t replaced a battery yet, using only the 
Optima Deep cycle versions  (and, yes they get used a lot in Florida)


But, we had used Yellow and Blue tops deep cycle and I cant recall why J

Paul

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:30 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] optima battery preference for battery boxes

Those are CCA batteries.  You want AH batteries.  I wouldn't spend my 
money on Optima...



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net 
mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net wrote:


Blue Top or Yellow Top?

Paul McCall, Pres.

PDMNet / Florida Broadband

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800 tel:772-564-6800 office

772-473-0352 tel:772-473-0352 cell

www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/

pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net





Re: [AFMUG] Ouray Colorado

2015-06-11 Thread Sterling Jacobson
No, but I took my FJ there for three days with a large group of FJ owners and 
went trail running.

Lots of fun! Would be a great wireless opportunity with those super high 
mountains.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 11:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Ouray Colorado

Anyone serve there?


Re: [AFMUG] Dumb Rocket dish compatibility question

2015-06-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
Might work for short distance if not designed for that frequency.   Its
math...look up Cassegrain Hyperbole to get idea of correlation or Just Ask
Chuck ..
Hey that can be a new segment.

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 11, 2015 10:55 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 I believe if you just change the feedhorns out, yes.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net
 wrote:

 We have an extra dish that was originally paired with a 3.65 Rocket but
 now we need to install a 5.7 link for a new location.  Are the dishes sold
 for the 3.65 Rockets compatible with a 5.7 Rocket?





Re: [AFMUG] Ouray Colorado

2015-06-11 Thread Cameron Crum
Brainstorm might. http://www.gobrainstorm.net/

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net
wrote:

  No, but I took my FJ there for three days with a large group of FJ
 owners and went trail running.



 Lots of fun! Would be a great wireless opportunity with those super high
 mountains.



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 11:34 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Ouray Colorado



 Anyone serve there?



Re: [AFMUG] Ouray Colorado

2015-06-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
Doesn't Matt Larsen cover that area? Isnt he a multi state wisp?

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 11, 2015 11:43 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote:

 Brainstorm might. http://www.gobrainstorm.net/

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net
 wrote:

  No, but I took my FJ there for three days with a large group of FJ
 owners and went trail running.



 Lots of fun! Would be a great wireless opportunity with those super high
 mountains.



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 11:34 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Ouray Colorado



 Anyone serve there?





Re: [AFMUG] Dumb Rocket dish compatibility question

2015-06-11 Thread Chuck McCown
I would have to look at that stays and what changes.  Normally the subreflector 
is matched with the feed and both have to change.

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 11:42 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dumb Rocket dish compatibility question

Might work for short distance if not designed for that frequency.   Its 
math...look up Cassegrain Hyperbole to get idea of correlation or Just Ask 
Chuck ..
Hey that can be a new segment. 

Jaime Solorza

On Jun 11, 2015 10:55 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

  I believe if you just change the feedhorns out, yes.


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net 
wrote:

We have an extra dish that was originally paired with a 3.65 Rocket but now 
we need to install a 5.7 link for a new location.  Are the dishes sold for the 
3.65 Rockets compatible with a 5.7 Rocket?



[AFMUG] 10GHz question

2015-06-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
We inherited an Ubnt 10Ghz link from a repossesion from a broker client pf
ours.  Got Motorola radios as well.We have two Ham operators working
with us.  Can we legally let them connect to our POP on mountain and give
them Internet access so they can their 2M repeaters on another mountain?
Using these radios?  I am assuming they would have to get their 10Ghz
license?

Jaime Solorza


Re: [AFMUG] Dumb Rocket dish compatibility question

2015-06-11 Thread Bill Prince
The dish is the same, but it's a different feed horn. I don't think you 
can order just the feedhorn.


bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 6/11/2015 9:51 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
We have an extra dish that was originally paired with a 3.65 Rocket 
but now we need to install a 5.7 link for a new location.  Are the 
dishes sold for the 3.65 Rockets compatible with a 5.7 Rocket?




Re: [AFMUG] Quick Mikrotik Question about MAC Address Tables

2015-06-11 Thread Butch Evans

On 06/11/2015 12:57 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

I guess my gripe is with the bridge.

I want it to show what port on the bridge the MAC is showing on.

It should know that, right?


/interface bridge host print


--
Butch Evans
702-537-0979
Network Support and Engineering
http://store.wispgear.net/
http://www.butchevans.com/


Re: [AFMUG] 10GHz question

2015-06-11 Thread Lewis Bergman
I thought 10GHz was an MSA type license that has to be paid for.
On Jun 11, 2015 12:59 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:

 We inherited an Ubnt 10Ghz link from a repossesion from a broker client pf
 ours.  Got Motorola radios as well.We have two Ham operators working
 with us.  Can we legally let them connect to our POP on mountain and give
 them Internet access so they can their 2M repeaters on another mountain?
 Using these radios?  I am assuming they would have to get their 10Ghz
 license?

 Jaime Solorza



Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread Lewis Bergman
Rude. I am going to turn you in to the offense guard and seek charges as my
heart was injured just thinking how badly embarrassed your comments made
David.
On Jun 11, 2015 9:46 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 3.65.  Have you been asleep since Wispamerica?!


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:43 AM, David dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:

  What Band is the Telrad on?


 On 06/10/2015 06:38 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:

  This come from a third party. Zirkel sent this to ISP Supplies.
  -- Forwarded message --
 From: Steve Discher sdisc...@ispsupplies.com sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
 Date: Jun 10, 2015 6:32 PM
 Subject: [Telrad] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz
 To: tel...@wispa.org tel...@wispa.org tel...@wispa.org
 tel...@wispa.org
 Cc:

  I received this testimonial from a customer today via text message and
 thought it worth sharing. I am attaching a screenshot so everyone knows it
 is authentic.

  This is from Sean Heskett with Zirkel Wireless in Steamboat Springs
 Colorado.




 Steve Discher

 sdisc...@ispsupplies.com

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Re: [AFMUG] 10GHz question

2015-06-11 Thread Seth Mattinen

On 6/11/15 11:23, Lewis Bergman wrote:

I thought 10GHz was an MSA type license that has to be paid for.



No, it's for hams in FCC land.

~Seth


Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
He's from Arkansas.  He has thick skin.  As should you, Texan!!!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Rude. I am going to turn you in to the offense guard and seek charges as
 my heart was injured just thinking how badly embarrassed your comments made
 David.
 On Jun 11, 2015 9:46 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 3.65.  Have you been asleep since Wispamerica?!


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:43 AM, David dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:

  What Band is the Telrad on?


 On 06/10/2015 06:38 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:

  This come from a third party. Zirkel sent this to ISP Supplies.
  -- Forwarded message --
 From: Steve Discher sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
 sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
 Date: Jun 10, 2015 6:32 PM
 Subject: [Telrad] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz
 To: tel...@wispa.org tel...@wispa.org tel...@wispa.org
 tel...@wispa.org
 Cc:

  I received this testimonial from a customer today via text message and
 thought it worth sharing. I am attaching a screenshot so everyone knows it
 is authentic.

  This is from Sean Heskett with Zirkel Wireless in Steamboat Springs
 Colorado.




 Steve Discher

 sdisc...@ispsupplies.com

 ISP Supplies Office: (855) 947-7776 / Fax: (866) 585-2175
 10770 State Hwy. 30, Suite 200 College Station, TX 77845
 http://www.ispsupplies.com


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Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
Mine? It was interesting?

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 11, 2015 12:27 PM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rude. I am going to turn you in to the offense guard and seek charges as
 my heart was injured just thinking how badly embarrassed your comments made
 David.
 On Jun 11, 2015 9:46 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 3.65.  Have you been asleep since Wispamerica?!


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:43 AM, David dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:

  What Band is the Telrad on?


 On 06/10/2015 06:38 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:

  This come from a third party. Zirkel sent this to ISP Supplies.
  -- Forwarded message --
 From: Steve Discher sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
 sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
 Date: Jun 10, 2015 6:32 PM
 Subject: [Telrad] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz
 To: tel...@wispa.org tel...@wispa.org tel...@wispa.org
 tel...@wispa.org
 Cc:

  I received this testimonial from a customer today via text message and
 thought it worth sharing. I am attaching a screenshot so everyone knows it
 is authentic.

  This is from Sean Heskett with Zirkel Wireless in Steamboat Springs
 Colorado.




 Steve Discher

 sdisc...@ispsupplies.com

 ISP Supplies Office: (855) 947-7776 / Fax: (866) 585-2175
 10770 State Hwy. 30, Suite 200 College Station, TX 77845
 http://www.ispsupplies.com


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Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
I do.  Call me anything except late for supper or Tecate.

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 11, 2015 12:32 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 He's from Arkansas.  He has thick skin.  As should you, Texan!!!


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Rude. I am going to turn you in to the offense guard and seek charges as
 my heart was injured just thinking how badly embarrassed your comments made
 David.
 On Jun 11, 2015 9:46 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 3.65.  Have you been asleep since Wispamerica?!


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:43 AM, David dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:

  What Band is the Telrad on?


 On 06/10/2015 06:38 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:

  This come from a third party. Zirkel sent this to ISP Supplies.
  -- Forwarded message --
 From: Steve Discher sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
 sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
 Date: Jun 10, 2015 6:32 PM
 Subject: [Telrad] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz
 To: tel...@wispa.org tel...@wispa.org tel...@wispa.org
 tel...@wispa.org
 Cc:

  I received this testimonial from a customer today via text message and
 thought it worth sharing. I am attaching a screenshot so everyone knows it
 is authentic.

  This is from Sean Heskett with Zirkel Wireless in Steamboat Springs
 Colorado.




 Steve Discher

 sdisc...@ispsupplies.com

 ISP Supplies Office: (855) 947-7776 / Fax: (866) 585-2175
 10770 State Hwy. 30, Suite 200 College Station, TX 77845
 http://www.ispsupplies.com


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Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
Actually Texian...I WAS born in East LA but lived in Downey, Califas ese
Holmes and ya'all.

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 11, 2015 12:32 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 He's from Arkansas.  He has thick skin.  As should you, Texan!!!


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Rude. I am going to turn you in to the offense guard and seek charges as
 my heart was injured just thinking how badly embarrassed your comments made
 David.
 On Jun 11, 2015 9:46 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 3.65.  Have you been asleep since Wispamerica?!


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:43 AM, David dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:

  What Band is the Telrad on?


 On 06/10/2015 06:38 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:

  This come from a third party. Zirkel sent this to ISP Supplies.
  -- Forwarded message --
 From: Steve Discher sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
 sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
 Date: Jun 10, 2015 6:32 PM
 Subject: [Telrad] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz
 To: tel...@wispa.org tel...@wispa.org tel...@wispa.org
 tel...@wispa.org
 Cc:

  I received this testimonial from a customer today via text message and
 thought it worth sharing. I am attaching a screenshot so everyone knows it
 is authentic.

  This is from Sean Heskett with Zirkel Wireless in Steamboat Springs
 Colorado.




 Steve Discher

 sdisc...@ispsupplies.com

 ISP Supplies Office: (855) 947-7776 / Fax: (866) 585-2175
 10770 State Hwy. 30, Suite 200 College Station, TX 77845
 http://www.ispsupplies.com


   http://www.facebook.com/ISPSupplies
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[AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Has anyone deployed some of these?  Just looking for general opinions on
them.  Any bigger dishes used (say 2' or 3' for long distance shots)?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
The Chihuahua client I told you aboit said they are fast.  Delivering
almost all 20 Mbps ..16kma

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 11, 2015 12:50 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 Has anyone deployed some of these?  Just looking for general opinions on
 them.  Any bigger dishes used (say 2' or 3' for long distance shots)?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread James Howard
We can't call you Tecate?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 1:41 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz


I do.  Call me anything except late for supper or Tecate.

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 11, 2015 12:32 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
He's from Arkansas.  He has thick skin.  As should you, Texan!!!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Lewis Bergman 
lewis.berg...@gmail.commailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote:

Rude. I am going to turn you in to the offense guard and seek charges as my 
heart was injured just thinking how badly embarrassed your comments made David.
On Jun 11, 2015 9:46 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
3.65.  Have you been asleep since Wispamerica?!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:43 AM, David 
dmilho...@wletc.commailto:dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:
What Band is the Telrad on?

On 06/10/2015 06:38 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:
This come from a third party. Zirkel sent this to ISP Supplies.
-- Forwarded message --
From: Steve Discher sdisc...@ispsupplies.commailto:sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
Date: Jun 10, 2015 6:32 PM
Subject: [Telrad] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz
To: tel...@wispa.orgmailto:tel...@wispa.org 
tel...@wispa.orgmailto:tel...@wispa.org
Cc:

I received this testimonial from a customer today via text message and thought 
it worth sharing. I am attaching a screenshot so everyone knows it is authentic.

This is from Sean Heskett with Zirkel Wireless in Steamboat Springs Colorado.





Steve Discher

sdisc...@ispsupplies.commailto:sdisc...@ispsupplies.com

ISP Supplies Office: (855) 947-7776 / Fax: (866) 585-2175
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Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
So sorry senor...me English is sew good.  I mean it to said.  Dont call me
late for Tecate time.

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 11, 2015 12:58 PM, James Howard ja...@litewire.net wrote:

 We can’t call you Tecate?



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 1:41 PM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65
 GHz



 I do.  Call me anything except late for supper or Tecate.

 Jaime Solorza

 On Jun 11, 2015 12:32 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 He's from Arkansas.  He has thick skin.  As should you, Texan!!!




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Rude. I am going to turn you in to the offense guard and seek charges as
 my heart was injured just thinking how badly embarrassed your comments made
 David.

 On Jun 11, 2015 9:46 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 3.65.  Have you been asleep since Wispamerica?!




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



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 What Band is the Telrad on?

 On 06/10/2015 06:38 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:

 This come from a third party. Zirkel sent this to ISP Supplies.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Steve Discher sdisc...@ispsupplies.com sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
 Date: Jun 10, 2015 6:32 PM
 Subject: [Telrad] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz
 To: tel...@wispa.org tel...@wispa.org tel...@wispa.org
 tel...@wispa.org
 Cc:

 I received this testimonial from a customer today via text message and
 thought it worth sharing. I am attaching a screenshot so everyone knows it
 is authentic.



 This is from Sean Heskett with Zirkel Wireless in Steamboat Springs
 Colorado.









 *Steve Discher*

 sdisc...@ispsupplies.com

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Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
It can be taken either way.  It's funnier the way James took it =)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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wrote:

 So sorry senor...me English is sew good.  I mean it to said.  Dont call me
 late for Tecate time.

 Jaime Solorza
 On Jun 11, 2015 12:58 PM, James Howard ja...@litewire.net wrote:

 We can’t call you Tecate?



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 1:41 PM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450
 3.65 GHz



 I do.  Call me anything except late for supper or Tecate.

 Jaime Solorza

 On Jun 11, 2015 12:32 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 He's from Arkansas.  He has thick skin.  As should you, Texan!!!




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



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 wrote:

 Rude. I am going to turn you in to the offense guard and seek charges as
 my heart was injured just thinking how badly embarrassed your comments made
 David.

 On Jun 11, 2015 9:46 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 3.65.  Have you been asleep since Wispamerica?!




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



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 What Band is the Telrad on?

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Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
Can we call you Tater Salad?

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

It can be taken either way.  It's funnier the way James took it =)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

  So sorry senor...me English is sew good.  I mean it to said.  Dont call me 
late for Tecate time. 

  Jaime Solorza

  On Jun 11, 2015 12:58 PM, James Howard ja...@litewire.net wrote:

We can’t call you Tecate?



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 1:41 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz



I do.  Call me anything except late for supper or Tecate.

Jaime Solorza

On Jun 11, 2015 12:32 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote:

He's from Arkansas.  He has thick skin.  As should you, Texan!!!






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



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wrote:

Rude. I am going to turn you in to the offense guard and seek charges as my 
heart was injured just thinking how badly embarrassed your comments made David.

On Jun 11, 2015 9:46 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

3.65.  Have you been asleep since Wispamerica?!






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:43 AM, David dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:

  What Band is the Telrad on?



  On 06/10/2015 06:38 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:

This come from a third party. Zirkel sent this to ISP Supplies.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Steve Discher mailto:sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
Date: Jun 10, 2015 6:32 PM
Subject: [Telrad] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz
To: mailto:tel...@wispa.org mailto:tel...@wispa.org
Cc: 



I received this testimonial from a customer today via text message and 
thought it worth sharing. I am attaching a screenshot so everyone knows it is 
authentic.   



This is from Sean Heskett with Zirkel Wireless in Steamboat Springs 
Colorado. 










Steve Discher

sdisc...@ispsupplies.com

ISP Supplies Office: (855) 947-7776 / Fax: (866) 585-2175 
10770 State Hwy. 30, Suite 200 College Station, TX 77845
http://www.ispsupplies.com


   


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Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread Chuck McCown
Couple of hyphens could have been helpful:
Call me anything,  except late for supper-or-Tecate.

Reminds me of a sign I saw on a protester the other day:
No!
More Rape.


From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 1:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

Can we call you Tater Salad?

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

It can be taken either way.  It's funnier the way James took it =)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

  So sorry senor...me English is sew good.  I mean it to said.  Dont call me 
late for Tecate time. 

  Jaime Solorza

  On Jun 11, 2015 12:58 PM, James Howard ja...@litewire.net wrote:

We can’t call you Tecate?



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 1:41 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz



I do.  Call me anything except late for supper or Tecate.

Jaime Solorza

On Jun 11, 2015 12:32 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote:

He's from Arkansas.  He has thick skin.  As should you, Texan!!!






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



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wrote:

Rude. I am going to turn you in to the offense guard and seek charges as my 
heart was injured just thinking how badly embarrassed your comments made David.

On Jun 11, 2015 9:46 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

3.65.  Have you been asleep since Wispamerica?!






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:43 AM, David dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:

  What Band is the Telrad on?



  On 06/10/2015 06:38 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:

This come from a third party. Zirkel sent this to ISP Supplies.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Steve Discher mailto:sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
Date: Jun 10, 2015 6:32 PM
Subject: [Telrad] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz
To: mailto:tel...@wispa.org mailto:tel...@wispa.org
Cc: 



I received this testimonial from a customer today via text message and 
thought it worth sharing. I am attaching a screenshot so everyone knows it is 
authentic.   



This is from Sean Heskett with Zirkel Wireless in Steamboat Springs 
Colorado. 










Steve Discher

sdisc...@ispsupplies.com

ISP Supplies Office: (855) 947-7776 / Fax: (866) 585-2175 
10770 State Hwy. 30, Suite 200 College Station, TX 77845
http://www.ispsupplies.com


   


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Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread Patrick Leary
It's a fair question, since we do have 5.15-5.25 GHz (though not in LTE yet), 
and we have 2.5 GHz (EBS/BRS) and 3.x GHz. In this case David, it is 3.65 GHz.

Patrick Leary
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:44 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

What Band is the Telrad on?

On 06/10/2015 06:38 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:
This come from a third party. Zirkel sent this to ISP Supplies.
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From: Steve Discher sdisc...@ispsupplies.commailto:sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
Date: Jun 10, 2015 6:32 PM
Subject: [Telrad] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz
To: tel...@wispa.orgmailto:tel...@wispa.org 
tel...@wispa.orgmailto:tel...@wispa.org
Cc:

I received this testimonial from a customer today via text message and thought 
it worth sharing. I am attaching a screenshot so everyone knows it is authentic.

This is from Sean Heskett with Zirkel Wireless in Steamboat Springs Colorado.

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sdisc...@ispsupplies.commailto:sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
ISP Supplies Office: (855) 947-7776 / Fax: (866) 585-2175
10770 State Hwy. 30, Suite 200 College Station, TX 77845
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Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread Bill Prince
Heard one like that yesterday; they were talking about the proper use of 
a comma. For example:


Time to eat Grandma.

Time to eat, Grandma.

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 6/11/2015 12:25 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Couple of hyphens could have been helpful:
Call me anything,  except late for supper-or-Tecate.
Reminds me of a sign I saw on a protester the other day:
No!
More Rape.




Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread James Howard
That’s not late for supper so shouldn’t be a problem.

I enjoy your Tecate pictures Jaime.  Not a real beer expert myself but I’ve 
been known to choose Tecate over other options.  Our local Costco sometimes 
carries it so the occasional case makes its way  home.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

Can we call you Tater Salad?

From: Josh Luthmanmailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:10 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

It can be taken either way.  It's funnier the way James took it =)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Jaime Solorza 
losguyswirel...@gmail.commailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:

So sorry senor...me English is sew good.  I mean it to said.  Dont call me late 
for Tecate time.

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 11, 2015 12:58 PM, James Howard 
ja...@litewire.netmailto:ja...@litewire.net wrote:
We can’t call you Tecate?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 1:41 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz


I do.  Call me anything except late for supper or Tecate.

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 11, 2015 12:32 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
He's from Arkansas.  He has thick skin.  As should you, Texan!!!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Lewis Bergman 
lewis.berg...@gmail.commailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote:

Rude. I am going to turn you in to the offense guard and seek charges as my 
heart was injured just thinking how badly embarrassed your comments made David.
On Jun 11, 2015 9:46 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
3.65.  Have you been asleep since Wispamerica?!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:43 AM, David 
dmilho...@wletc.commailto:dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:
What Band is the Telrad on?
On 06/10/2015 06:38 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:
This come from a third party. Zirkel sent this to ISP Supplies.
-- Forwarded message --
From: Steve Discher mailto:sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
Date: Jun 10, 2015 6:32 PM
Subject: [Telrad] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz
To: mailto:tel...@wispa.org mailto:tel...@wispa.org
Cc:
I received this testimonial from a customer today via text message and thought 
it worth sharing. I am attaching a screenshot so everyone knows it is authentic.

This is from Sean Heskett with Zirkel Wireless in Steamboat Springs Colorado.





Steve Discher

sdisc...@ispsupplies.commailto:sdisc...@ispsupplies.com

ISP Supplies Office: (855) 947-7776tel:%28855%29%20947-7776 / Fax: (866) 
585-2175tel:%28866%29%20585-2175
10770 State Hwy. 30, Suite 200 College Station, TX 77845
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Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread Chuck McCown
A friend and I were on his roof when we were about 12 years old watching his 
older brother try to fix the roof.  Pretty steep pitch.  My friend started 
to slide off (very steep pitch, 2 story), I grabbed his wrist.  What 
happened next has been subject to debate for a half decade almost:


He said: Don't, let go!  (being homophobic teenagers and don't need no 
stinkin' help from anyone).


Of course that is my version.  No permanent injuries.

-Original Message- 
From: Bill Prince

Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 1:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

Heard one like that yesterday; they were talking about the proper use of
a comma. For example:

Time to eat Grandma.

Time to eat, Grandma.

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 6/11/2015 12:25 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Couple of hyphens could have been helpful:
Call me anything,  except late for supper-or-Tecate.
Reminds me of a sign I saw on a protester the other day:
No!
More Rape.




Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
Eats shoots and leaves.

Or like the STARBUCKS vans that say SUCKS when the sliding door is open.

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

Couple of hyphens could have been helpful:
Call me anything,  except late for supper-or-Tecate.

Reminds me of a sign I saw on a protester the other day:
No!
More Rape.


From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 1:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

Can we call you Tater Salad?

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

It can be taken either way.  It's funnier the way James took it =)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

  So sorry senor...me English is sew good.  I mean it to said.  Dont call me 
late for Tecate time. 

  Jaime Solorza

  On Jun 11, 2015 12:58 PM, James Howard ja...@litewire.net wrote:

We can’t call you Tecate?



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 1:41 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz



I do.  Call me anything except late for supper or Tecate.

Jaime Solorza

On Jun 11, 2015 12:32 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote:

He's from Arkansas.  He has thick skin.  As should you, Texan!!!






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Rude. I am going to turn you in to the offense guard and seek charges as my 
heart was injured just thinking how badly embarrassed your comments made David.

On Jun 11, 2015 9:46 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

3.65.  Have you been asleep since Wispamerica?!






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:43 AM, David dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:

  What Band is the Telrad on?



  On 06/10/2015 06:38 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:

This come from a third party. Zirkel sent this to ISP Supplies.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Steve Discher mailto:sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
Date: Jun 10, 2015 6:32 PM
Subject: [Telrad] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz
To: mailto:tel...@wispa.org mailto:tel...@wispa.org
Cc: 



I received this testimonial from a customer today via text message and 
thought it worth sharing. I am attaching a screenshot so everyone knows it is 
authentic.   



This is from Sean Heskett with Zirkel Wireless in Steamboat Springs 
Colorado. 










Steve Discher

sdisc...@ispsupplies.com

ISP Supplies Office: (855) 947-7776 / Fax: (866) 585-2175 
10770 State Hwy. 30, Suite 200 College Station, TX 77845
http://www.ispsupplies.com


   


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Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread James Howard
Or the moving company Two Men and a Truck.  See their trucks on the road every 
so often.  Web address – www.twomen.comhttp://www.twomen.com

Am I the only one that reads that as T women?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

Eats shoots and leaves.

Or like the STARBUCKS vans that say SUCKS when the sliding door is open.

From: Chuck McCownmailto:ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:25 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

Couple of hyphens could have been helpful:
Call me anything,  except late for supper-or-Tecate.

Reminds me of a sign I saw on a protester the other day:
No!
More Rape.


From: Ken Hohhofmailto:af...@kwisp.com
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 1:14 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

Can we call you Tater Salad?

From: Josh Luthmanmailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:10 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

It can be taken either way.  It's funnier the way James took it =)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Jaime Solorza 
losguyswirel...@gmail.commailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:

So sorry senor...me English is sew good.  I mean it to said.  Dont call me late 
for Tecate time.

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 11, 2015 12:58 PM, James Howard 
ja...@litewire.netmailto:ja...@litewire.net wrote:
We can’t call you Tecate?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 1:41 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz


I do.  Call me anything except late for supper or Tecate.

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 11, 2015 12:32 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
He's from Arkansas.  He has thick skin.  As should you, Texan!!!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Lewis Bergman 
lewis.berg...@gmail.commailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote:

Rude. I am going to turn you in to the offense guard and seek charges as my 
heart was injured just thinking how badly embarrassed your comments made David.
On Jun 11, 2015 9:46 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
3.65.  Have you been asleep since Wispamerica?!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:43 AM, David 
dmilho...@wletc.commailto:dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:
What Band is the Telrad on?
On 06/10/2015 06:38 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:
This come from a third party. Zirkel sent this to ISP Supplies.
-- Forwarded message --
From: Steve Discher mailto:sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
Date: Jun 10, 2015 6:32 PM
Subject: [Telrad] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz
To: mailto:tel...@wispa.org mailto:tel...@wispa.org
Cc:
I received this testimonial from a customer today via text message and thought 
it worth sharing. I am attaching a screenshot so everyone knows it is authentic.

This is from Sean Heskett with Zirkel Wireless in Steamboat Springs Colorado.





Steve Discher

sdisc...@ispsupplies.commailto:sdisc...@ispsupplies.com

ISP Supplies Office: (855) 947-7776tel:%28855%29%20947-7776 / Fax: (866) 
585-2175tel:%28866%29%20585-2175
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Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread SmarterBroadband
We use rocket dishes ePMP BH links.

Not done any Force110 PTP.  Only because we started using ePMP for PTP long 
before Force110 came out.  And we use sync which was not turned on then.

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 11:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

 

Has anyone deployed some of these?  Just looking for general opinions on them.  
Any bigger dishes used (say 2' or 3' for long distance shots)?


 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread James Howard
Don’t remember them.  When have we ever wandered off topic on this list?  This 
is an outrage!

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

OK, getting pretty far off topic, but do you remember seeing G.O.D. trucks on 
the highway?
(Guaranteed Overnight Delivery)

From: James Howardmailto:ja...@litewire.net
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:44 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

Or the moving company Two Men and a Truck.  See their trucks on the road every 
so often.  Web address – www.twomen.comhttp://www.twomen.com

Am I the only one that reads that as T women?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:40 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

Eats shoots and leaves.

Or like the STARBUCKS vans that say SUCKS when the sliding door is open.

From: Chuck McCownmailto:ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:25 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

Couple of hyphens could have been helpful:
Call me anything,  except late for supper-or-Tecate.

Reminds me of a sign I saw on a protester the other day:
No!
More Rape.


From: Ken Hohhofmailto:af...@kwisp.com
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 1:14 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

Can we call you Tater Salad?

From: Josh Luthmanmailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:10 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

It can be taken either way.  It's funnier the way James took it =)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Jaime Solorza 
losguyswirel...@gmail.commailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:

So sorry senor...me English is sew good.  I mean it to said.  Dont call me late 
for Tecate time.

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 11, 2015 12:58 PM, James Howard 
ja...@litewire.netmailto:ja...@litewire.net wrote:
We can’t call you Tecate?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 1:41 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz


I do.  Call me anything except late for supper or Tecate.

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 11, 2015 12:32 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
He's from Arkansas.  He has thick skin.  As should you, Texan!!!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Lewis Bergman 
lewis.berg...@gmail.commailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote:

Rude. I am going to turn you in to the offense guard and seek charges as my 
heart was injured just thinking how badly embarrassed your comments made David.
On Jun 11, 2015 9:46 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
3.65.  Have you been asleep since Wispamerica?!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:43 AM, David 
dmilho...@wletc.commailto:dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:
What Band is the Telrad on?
On 06/10/2015 06:38 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:
This come from a third party. Zirkel sent this to ISP Supplies.
-- Forwarded message --
From: Steve Discher mailto:sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
Date: Jun 10, 2015 6:32 PM
Subject: [Telrad] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz
To: mailto:tel...@wispa.org mailto:tel...@wispa.org
Cc:
I received this testimonial from a customer today via text message and thought 
it worth sharing. I am attaching a screenshot so everyone knows it is authentic.

This is from Sean Heskett with Zirkel Wireless in Steamboat Springs Colorado.





Steve Discher

sdisc...@ispsupplies.commailto:sdisc...@ispsupplies.com

ISP Supplies Office: (855) 947-7776tel:%28855%29%20947-7776 / Fax: (866) 
585-2175tel:%28866%29%20585-2175
10770 State Hwy. 30, Suite 200 College Station, TX 77845
http://www.ispsupplies.comhttp://www.ispsupplies.com/


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Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Matt
 We use rocket dishes ePMP BH links.

 Not done any Force110 PTP.  Only because we started using ePMP for PTP long
 before Force110 came out.  And we use sync which was not turned on then.

 Adam

How is it working with sync?  What kind of latency and throughput with
sync?  How is frequency reuse working with it?


Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

2015-06-11 Thread SmarterBroadband
Keep me in the loop.

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:22 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

 

Agreed on SkyDog's speed - just not enough.  This one does what you mention on 
the control/filtering plus is dualband concurrent 11ac.

 

I'll follow up with the other on-list interested parties.  Again this is not an 
IgniteNet product - just a friend looking for interested beta customers.  I see 
it as another potential revenue stream for you guys.

 

-Hal

 

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net wrote:

It’s a cloud hosted filtering service.

 

The router is only OK IMO, being a Wireless N router with GigE ports.

It can only do about 150Mbps of traffic across the WAN interface though.

 

The cool thing is I can change and turn on/off the kids access to their kindles 
and devices from my phone from anywhere I have internet access. Very useful, 
full of features, and near instantaneous.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 11:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

 

Wasn't it a filtering service done on the customer's router?




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote:

What the heck is SkyDog?


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Tyler
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 12:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

I would also be interested in hearing about it. I didn't see the original 
message so I can't reply off list as I don't have your email address :)

--
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 10:18:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

Oh definitely, I really love Skydog and am dreading the day it turns off (no 
thanks to Comcast for killing it).

I’ll email you.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 5:07 PM
To: af
Subject: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

Hi folks,

For those of you who remember SkyDog, I have an (better) alternative that is 
operator focused and looking for beta customers.  Hit me offlist and I can get 
you connected.  I saw the demo last week and was very impressed.

Thanks,
-Hal

--

Harold Bledsoe

 





 

-- 

Harold Bledsoe



Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
So you're using the expensive APs as your bachauls (which is the same
hardware as the Force110) in this case?  That show a lot of faith in those
radios!  Happy with the outcome?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:09 PM, SmarterBroadband 
li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote:

 We use rocket dishes ePMP BH links.

 Not done any Force110 PTP.  Only because we started using ePMP for PTP
 long before Force110 came out.  And we use sync which was not turned on
 then.

 Adam



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 11:51 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links



 Has anyone deployed some of these?  Just looking for general opinions on
 them.  Any bigger dishes used (say 2' or 3' for long distance shots)?



 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



[AFMUG] CNUT

2015-06-11 Thread Dan Petermann
I have “Gather SM Passwords and Extract IP Address and SNMP Settings” checked. 
CNUT seems to totally ignore this and gather the LUID data. Is this a bug in 
4.8.1?

Anybody else run into this problem?

I’ve uninstalled / reinstalled and the problem remains.

Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread Patrick Leary
Does he prefer Mack or Peterbuilt? I think the Catholics would prefer something 
built by Peter.

Patrick Leary
M 727.501.3735
[cid:image001.png@01D0A462.7213E0C0]http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet





From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 3:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

OK, getting pretty far off topic, but do you remember seeing G.O.D. trucks on 
the highway?
(Guaranteed Overnight Delivery)

From: James Howardmailto:ja...@litewire.net
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:44 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

Or the moving company Two Men and a Truck.  See their trucks on the road every 
so often.  Web address – www.twomen.comhttp://www.twomen.com

Am I the only one that reads that as T women?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:40 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

Eats shoots and leaves.

Or like the STARBUCKS vans that say SUCKS when the sliding door is open.

From: Chuck McCownmailto:ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:25 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

Couple of hyphens could have been helpful:
Call me anything,  except late for supper-or-Tecate.

Reminds me of a sign I saw on a protester the other day:
No!
More Rape.


From: Ken Hohhofmailto:af...@kwisp.com
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 1:14 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

Can we call you Tater Salad?

From: Josh Luthmanmailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:10 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

It can be taken either way.  It's funnier the way James took it =)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Jaime Solorza 
losguyswirel...@gmail.commailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:

So sorry senor...me English is sew good.  I mean it to said.  Dont call me late 
for Tecate time.

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 11, 2015 12:58 PM, James Howard 
ja...@litewire.netmailto:ja...@litewire.net wrote:
We can’t call you Tecate?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 1:41 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz


I do.  Call me anything except late for supper or Tecate.

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 11, 2015 12:32 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
He's from Arkansas.  He has thick skin.  As should you, Texan!!!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Lewis Bergman 
lewis.berg...@gmail.commailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote:

Rude. I am going to turn you in to the offense guard and seek charges as my 
heart was injured just thinking how badly embarrassed your comments made David.
On Jun 11, 2015 9:46 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
3.65.  Have you been asleep since Wispamerica?!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:43 AM, David 
dmilho...@wletc.commailto:dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:
What Band is the Telrad on?
On 06/10/2015 06:38 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:
This come from a third party. Zirkel sent this to ISP Supplies.
-- Forwarded message --
From: Steve Discher mailto:sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
Date: Jun 10, 2015 6:32 PM
Subject: [Telrad] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz
To: mailto:tel...@wispa.org mailto:tel...@wispa.org
Cc:
I received this testimonial from a customer today via text message and thought 
it worth sharing. I am attaching a screenshot so everyone knows it is authentic.

This is from Sean Heskett with Zirkel Wireless in Steamboat Springs Colorado.





Steve Discher

sdisc...@ispsupplies.commailto:sdisc...@ispsupplies.com

ISP Supplies Office: (855) 947-7776tel:%28855%29%20947-7776 / Fax: (866) 
585-2175tel:%28866%29%20585-2175
10770 State Hwy. 30, Suite 200 College Station, TX 77845
http://www.ispsupplies.comhttp://www.ispsupplies.com/


   http://www.facebook.com/ISPSupplies


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Re: [AFMUG] Dumb Rocket dish compatibility question

2015-06-11 Thread Mathew Howard
It definitely will work fine to just change the feedhorn - I have done it
in the past. The rest of the dish is exactly the same (the subreflector is
attached to the feedhorn).
I doubt anywhere sells the feedhorn on it's own, but even if you have to
buy a whole new dish, it's usually easier to swap the feedhorn than to drag
a whole new dish up a tower.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

 The dish is the same, but it's a different feed horn. I don't think you
 can order just the feedhorn.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 6/11/2015 9:51 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

 We have an extra dish that was originally paired with a 3.65 Rocket but
 now we need to install a 5.7 link for a new location.  Are the dishes sold
 for the 3.65 Rockets compatible with a 5.7 Rocket?





Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread David

DEANG!!!
 Thats what I thought but wanted to make sure you were awake :)


On 06/11/2015 01:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

He's from Arkansas.  He has thick skin.  As should you, Texan!!!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Lewis Bergman 
lewis.berg...@gmail.com mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote:


Rude. I am going to turn you in to the offense guard and seek
charges as my heart was injured just thinking how badly
embarrassed your comments made David.

On Jun 11, 2015 9:46 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

3.65.  Have you been asleep since Wispamerica?!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:43 AM, David dmilho...@wletc.com
mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:

What Band is the Telrad on?


On 06/10/2015 06:38 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:

This come from a third party. Zirkel sent this to ISP
Supplies.
-- Forwarded message --
From: Steve Discher sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
mailto:sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
Date: Jun 10, 2015 6:32 PM
Subject: [Telrad] Customer testimonial, side by side
Canopy 450 3.65 GHz
To: tel...@wispa.org mailto:tel...@wispa.org
tel...@wispa.org mailto:tel...@wispa.org
Cc:

I received this testimonial from a customer today via
text message and thought it worth sharing. I am
attaching a screenshot so everyone knows it is
authentic.

This is from Sean Heskett with Zirkel Wireless in
Steamboat Springs Colorado.




Steve Discher

sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
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Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Mathew Howard
That particular link is actually running in ePTP mode, and I haven't seen
any issues with it hanging... I wonder if that bug doesn't affect the GPS
radios? I don't think I have any of our other links in ePTP mode.

We've done several links using a PTP at one end and a normal connectorized
radio at the other end. I haven't ever seen an ePMP link do enough over 100
meg for me to care about having a gigabit port.
You can run the PTP radios off passive power too, they're probably the
least picky about power of any radios I've used - you can even run them
directly off a UBNT power supply.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 Glad to hear it!  I'm not sure there's any benefit to the PTP radios
 either. The containerized 5 GHz radios do the same throughput and work with
 passive power.  I prefer the ePTP mode instead of sync, the low latency is
 so sexy, but there's a killer bug that's causing the link to hang =(


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I Like 'em. I'm not convinced there's a lot of benefit to the PTP unless
 you're using sync, but sync is really nice...

 We have one link up with PTP's at both ends, one end is on a 2'
 RocketDish and the other is a Force110 dish, if I remember right, the link
 is right around 10 miles and I can get just over 100 meg through it testing
 between the Mikrotiks at both ends.

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Has anyone deployed some of these?  Just looking for general opinions on
 them.  Any bigger dishes used (say 2' or 3' for long distance shots)?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373






Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Mathew Howard
Yes, it's been running for about 2 months now and I haven't seen any
problems with it.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 My ePTP link is non-GPS.  Are you saying your ePTP is GPS and doesn't have
 the problem?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 That particular link is actually running in ePTP mode, and I haven't seen
 any issues with it hanging... I wonder if that bug doesn't affect the GPS
 radios? I don't think I have any of our other links in ePTP mode.

 We've done several links using a PTP at one end and a normal
 connectorized radio at the other end. I haven't ever seen an ePMP link do
 enough over 100 meg for me to care about having a gigabit port.
 You can run the PTP radios off passive power too, they're probably the
 least picky about power of any radios I've used - you can even run them
 directly off a UBNT power supply.

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Glad to hear it!  I'm not sure there's any benefit to the PTP radios
 either. The containerized 5 GHz radios do the same throughput and work with
 passive power.  I prefer the ePTP mode instead of sync, the low latency is
 so sexy, but there's a killer bug that's causing the link to hang =(


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I Like 'em. I'm not convinced there's a lot of benefit to the PTP
 unless you're using sync, but sync is really nice...

 We have one link up with PTP's at both ends, one end is on a 2'
 RocketDish and the other is a Force110 dish, if I remember right, the link
 is right around 10 miles and I can get just over 100 meg through it testing
 between the Mikrotiks at both ends.

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Has anyone deployed some of these?  Just looking for general opinions
 on them.  Any bigger dishes used (say 2' or 3' for long distance shots)?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373








Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread Shayne Lebrun
Commas are important. For example:

Last night I helped my uncle, Jack, off a horse.



-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 3:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

Heard one like that yesterday; they were talking about the proper use of a 
comma. For example:

Time to eat Grandma.

Time to eat, Grandma.

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 6/11/2015 12:25 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
 Couple of hyphens could have been helpful:
 Call me anything,  except late for supper-or-Tecate.
 Reminds me of a sign I saw on a protester the other day:
 No!
 More Rape.



Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
My ePTP link is non-GPS.  Are you saying your ePTP is GPS and doesn't have
the problem?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:

 That particular link is actually running in ePTP mode, and I haven't seen
 any issues with it hanging... I wonder if that bug doesn't affect the GPS
 radios? I don't think I have any of our other links in ePTP mode.

 We've done several links using a PTP at one end and a normal connectorized
 radio at the other end. I haven't ever seen an ePMP link do enough over 100
 meg for me to care about having a gigabit port.
 You can run the PTP radios off passive power too, they're probably the
 least picky about power of any radios I've used - you can even run them
 directly off a UBNT power supply.

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:

 Glad to hear it!  I'm not sure there's any benefit to the PTP radios
 either. The containerized 5 GHz radios do the same throughput and work with
 passive power.  I prefer the ePTP mode instead of sync, the low latency is
 so sexy, but there's a killer bug that's causing the link to hang =(


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I Like 'em. I'm not convinced there's a lot of benefit to the PTP unless
 you're using sync, but sync is really nice...

 We have one link up with PTP's at both ends, one end is on a 2'
 RocketDish and the other is a Force110 dish, if I remember right, the link
 is right around 10 miles and I can get just over 100 meg through it testing
 between the Mikrotiks at both ends.

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Has anyone deployed some of these?  Just looking for general opinions
 on them.  Any bigger dishes used (say 2' or 3' for long distance shots)?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373







Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Mathew Howard
I Like 'em. I'm not convinced there's a lot of benefit to the PTP unless
you're using sync, but sync is really nice...

We have one link up with PTP's at both ends, one end is on a 2' RocketDish
and the other is a Force110 dish, if I remember right, the link is right
around 10 miles and I can get just over 100 meg through it testing between
the Mikrotiks at both ends.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 Has anyone deployed some of these?  Just looking for general opinions on
 them.  Any bigger dishes used (say 2' or 3' for long distance shots)?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Glad to hear it!  I'm not sure there's any benefit to the PTP radios
either. The containerized 5 GHz radios do the same throughput and work with
passive power.  I prefer the ePTP mode instead of sync, the low latency is
so sexy, but there's a killer bug that's causing the link to hang =(


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:

 I Like 'em. I'm not convinced there's a lot of benefit to the PTP unless
 you're using sync, but sync is really nice...

 We have one link up with PTP's at both ends, one end is on a 2' RocketDish
 and the other is a Force110 dish, if I remember right, the link is right
 around 10 miles and I can get just over 100 meg through it testing between
 the Mikrotiks at both ends.

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:

 Has anyone deployed some of these?  Just looking for general opinions on
 them.  Any bigger dishes used (say 2' or 3' for long distance shots)?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373





Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread Paul Stewart
ROFL .. OMG I had to read that twice as my mind kept skipping the commas!

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Shayne Lebrun
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

Commas are important. For example:

Last night I helped my uncle, Jack, off a horse.



-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 3:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

Heard one like that yesterday; they were talking about the proper use of a 
comma. For example:

Time to eat Grandma.

Time to eat, Grandma.

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 6/11/2015 12:25 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
 Couple of hyphens could have been helpful:
 Call me anything,  except late for supper-or-Tecate.
 Reminds me of a sign I saw on a protester the other day:
 No!
 More Rape.




Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz

2015-06-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
You caught me

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 11, 2015 1:14 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

   Can we call you Tater Salad?

  *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:10 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65
 GHz

  It can be taken either way.  It's funnier the way James took it =)


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 So sorry senor...me English is sew good.  I mean it to said.  Dont call
 me late for Tecate time.

 Jaime Solorza
 On Jun 11, 2015 12:58 PM, James Howard ja...@litewire.net wrote:

  We can’t call you Tecate?



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 1:41 PM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450
 3.65 GHz



 I do.  Call me anything except late for supper or Tecate.

 Jaime Solorza

 On Jun 11, 2015 12:32 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 He's from Arkansas.  He has thick skin.  As should you, Texan!!!




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Rude. I am going to turn you in to the offense guard and seek charges as
 my heart was injured just thinking how badly embarrassed your comments made
 David.

 On Jun 11, 2015 9:46 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 3.65.  Have you been asleep since Wispamerica?!




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:43 AM, David dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:

  What Band is the Telrad on?

  On 06/10/2015 06:38 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:

  This come from a third party. Zirkel sent this to ISP Supplies.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Steve Discher mailto:sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
 sdisc...@ispsupplies.com
 Date: Jun 10, 2015 6:32 PM
 Subject: [Telrad] Customer testimonial, side by side Canopy 450 3.65 GHz
 To: mailto:tel...@wispa.org tel...@wispa.org mailto:tel...@wispa.org
 tel...@wispa.org
 Cc:

  I received this testimonial from a customer today via text message and
 thought it worth sharing. I am attaching a screenshot so everyone knows it
 is authentic.



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Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Mathew Howard
containerized... that must be when you buy a cheap router from walmart in
put it on a tower in a rubbermaid container.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

 You mean connectorized?

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 6/11/2015 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 The containerized 5 GHz radios do the same throughput





Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Uh ya that.  Can't even blame spell check on that...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 11, 2015 6:12 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:

 containerized... that must be when you buy a cheap router from walmart in
 put it on a tower in a rubbermaid container.

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

 You mean connectorized?

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 6/11/2015 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 The containerized 5 GHz radios do the same throughput






Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread George Skorup
Why exactly? Just asking. I'm wondering if we should be doing cheap PTP 
with ePMP or AF5x. I have several Force110 links up (just SMs, not PTP) 
operating all across the 5GHz bands. And one 10 mile link with Laird 2' 
dishes using connectorized non-GPS radios. Other than some oddities like 
intermittent increases in latency, they have all been working very well. 
Most are still running 2.3.3 and I don't want to touch them because 
they're working just fine. I'm leaning towards the Force110 PTP radios 
and whatever antennas required for new links since it fits with all the 
other Canopy and ePMP stuff (power injection, etc). But the AFs sure are 
nice when you can do FDD (except the 5X!) and get very low latency like 
licensed.


On 6/11/2015 6:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Honestly I think they're better than AF5x at this point.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jun 11, 2015 7:25 PM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com 
mailto:bwireless...@gmail.com wrote:


I got 2 links ready to deploy  just sitting the office waiting to
go up on the tower

On Jun 11, 2015 5:34 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

Uhm...I guess?  It hears noise better than Ubnt for sure.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jun 11, 2015 6:23 PM, Lewis Bergman
lewis.berg...@gmail.com mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote:

Does the force auto select a clean frequency?

On Jun 11, 2015 5:13 PM, Mathew Howard
mhoward...@gmail.com mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:

containerized... that must be when you buy a cheap
router from walmart in put it on a tower in a
rubbermaid container.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Bill Prince
part15...@gmail.com mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote:

You mean connectorized?

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


On 6/11/2015 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

The containerized 5 GHz radios do the same
throughput







Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
I installed mine last Friday.  I've had it lock up 8 or 9 times as of today.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 11, 2015 5:47 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, it's been running for about 2 months now and I haven't seen any
 problems with it.

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:

 My ePTP link is non-GPS.  Are you saying your ePTP is GPS and doesn't
 have the problem?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 That particular link is actually running in ePTP mode, and I haven't
 seen any issues with it hanging... I wonder if that bug doesn't affect the
 GPS radios? I don't think I have any of our other links in ePTP mode.

 We've done several links using a PTP at one end and a normal
 connectorized radio at the other end. I haven't ever seen an ePMP link do
 enough over 100 meg for me to care about having a gigabit port.
 You can run the PTP radios off passive power too, they're probably the
 least picky about power of any radios I've used - you can even run them
 directly off a UBNT power supply.

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Glad to hear it!  I'm not sure there's any benefit to the PTP radios
 either. The containerized 5 GHz radios do the same throughput and work with
 passive power.  I prefer the ePTP mode instead of sync, the low latency is
 so sexy, but there's a killer bug that's causing the link to hang =(


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I Like 'em. I'm not convinced there's a lot of benefit to the PTP
 unless you're using sync, but sync is really nice...

 We have one link up with PTP's at both ends, one end is on a 2'
 RocketDish and the other is a Force110 dish, if I remember right, the link
 is right around 10 miles and I can get just over 100 meg through it 
 testing
 between the Mikrotiks at both ends.

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Has anyone deployed some of these?  Just looking for general opinions
 on them.  Any bigger dishes used (say 2' or 3' for long distance shots)?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373









Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
I know my non GPS ePTP mode radios are locking up.  You can access either
device locally but the wireless is busted.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 11, 2015 7:34 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote:

 So what's the scoop here? What products are or aren't locking up?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 11, 2015, at 5:58 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 I installed mine last Friday.  I've had it lock up 8 or 9 times as of
 today.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jun 11, 2015 5:47 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, it's been running for about 2 months now and I haven't seen any
 problems with it.

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 My ePTP link is non-GPS.  Are you saying your ePTP is GPS and doesn't
 have the problem?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 That particular link is actually running in ePTP mode, and I haven't
 seen any issues with it hanging... I wonder if that bug doesn't affect the
 GPS radios? I don't think I have any of our other links in ePTP mode.

 We've done several links using a PTP at one end and a normal
 connectorized radio at the other end. I haven't ever seen an ePMP link do
 enough over 100 meg for me to care about having a gigabit port.
 You can run the PTP radios off passive power too, they're probably the
 least picky about power of any radios I've used - you can even run them
 directly off a UBNT power supply.

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Glad to hear it!  I'm not sure there's any benefit to the PTP radios
 either. The containerized 5 GHz radios do the same throughput and work 
 with
 passive power.  I prefer the ePTP mode instead of sync, the low latency is
 so sexy, but there's a killer bug that's causing the link to hang =(


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I Like 'em. I'm not convinced there's a lot of benefit to the PTP
 unless you're using sync, but sync is really nice...

 We have one link up with PTP's at both ends, one end is on a 2'
 RocketDish and the other is a Force110 dish, if I remember right, the 
 link
 is right around 10 miles and I can get just over 100 meg through it 
 testing
 between the Mikrotiks at both ends.

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Has anyone deployed some of these?  Just looking for general
 opinions on them.  Any bigger dishes used (say 2' or 3' for long 
 distance
 shots)?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373









Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Bill Prince

You mean connectorized?

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 6/11/2015 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

The containerized 5 GHz radios do the same throughput




Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Lewis Bergman
Does the force auto select a clean frequency?
On Jun 11, 2015 5:13 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:

 containerized... that must be when you buy a cheap router from walmart in
 put it on a tower in a rubbermaid container.

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

 You mean connectorized?

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 6/11/2015 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 The containerized 5 GHz radios do the same throughput






Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread joseph marsh
I got 2 links ready to deploy  just sitting the office waiting to go up on
the tower
On Jun 11, 2015 5:34 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Uhm...I guess?  It hears noise better than Ubnt for sure.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jun 11, 2015 6:23 PM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does the force auto select a clean frequency?
 On Jun 11, 2015 5:13 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:

 containerized... that must be when you buy a cheap router from walmart
 in put it on a tower in a rubbermaid container.

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 You mean connectorized?

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 6/11/2015 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 The containerized 5 GHz radios do the same throughput






[AFMUG] Nano Bridge Radio part only

2015-06-11 Thread SmarterBroadband
Is it possible to buy just the radio part?  When we have a failure we just
swap out the radio.  I must have 30-50 new dishes and mounts on the shelf
with no radios!!

 

Adam



Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Colin Stanners
The PTP radios with the gigabit port can do almost double the PPS - given
that that's an issue with wifi-chipset-based radios when links get loaded
or you're using VoIP, may be worth the extra investment.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 Glad to hear it!  I'm not sure there's any benefit to the PTP radios
 either. The containerized 5 GHz radios do the same throughput and work with
 passive power.  I prefer the ePTP mode instead of sync, the low latency is
 so sexy, but there's a killer bug that's causing the link to hang =(


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I Like 'em. I'm not convinced there's a lot of benefit to the PTP unless
 you're using sync, but sync is really nice...

 We have one link up with PTP's at both ends, one end is on a 2'
 RocketDish and the other is a Force110 dish, if I remember right, the link
 is right around 10 miles and I can get just over 100 meg through it testing
 between the Mikrotiks at both ends.

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Has anyone deployed some of these?  Just looking for general opinions on
 them.  Any bigger dishes used (say 2' or 3' for long distance shots)?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373






Re: [AFMUG] Nano Bridge Radio part only

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Beam did solve that.  If only it would get DFS.  It does have 5.1 though.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 11, 2015 7:32 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com
wrote:

 Is it possible to buy just the radio part?  When we have a failure we just
 swap out the radio.  I must have 30-50 new dishes and mounts on the shelf
 with no radios!!



 Adam



Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Jon Langeler
So what's the scoop here? What products are or aren't locking up?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 11, 2015, at 5:58 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 
 I installed mine last Friday.  I've had it lock up 8 or 9 times as of today.
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Jun 11, 2015 5:47 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, it's been running for about 2 months now and I haven't seen any 
 problems with it.
 
 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
 wrote:
 My ePTP link is non-GPS.  Are you saying your ePTP is GPS and doesn't have 
 the problem?
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 That particular link is actually running in ePTP mode, and I haven't seen 
 any issues with it hanging... I wonder if that bug doesn't affect the GPS 
 radios? I don't think I have any of our other links in ePTP mode.
 
 We've done several links using a PTP at one end and a normal connectorized 
 radio at the other end. I haven't ever seen an ePMP link do enough over 
 100 meg for me to care about having a gigabit port.
 You can run the PTP radios off passive power too, they're probably the 
 least picky about power of any radios I've used - you can even run them 
 directly off a UBNT power supply.
 
 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 Glad to hear it!  I'm not sure there's any benefit to the PTP radios 
 either. The containerized 5 GHz radios do the same throughput and work 
 with passive power.  I prefer the ePTP mode instead of sync, the low 
 latency is so sexy, but there's a killer bug that's causing the link to 
 hang =(
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I Like 'em. I'm not convinced there's a lot of benefit to the PTP unless 
 you're using sync, but sync is really nice...
 
 We have one link up with PTP's at both ends, one end is on a 2' 
 RocketDish and the other is a Force110 dish, if I remember right, the 
 link is right around 10 miles and I can get just over 100 meg through it 
 testing between the Mikrotiks at both ends.
 
 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 
 Has anyone deployed some of these?  Just looking for general opinions 
 on them.  Any bigger dishes used (say 2' or 3' for long distance shots)?
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
 now running at over 100MBps on a 10MHz channel... ??? 

Is that Air rate you are quoting ? 
256QAM on a 10meg channel falls short of 100MBps ... 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet  Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -

 From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 8:42:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

 Ours replaced RM5's that wouldn't even link... now running at over 100MBps on
 a 10MHz channel...
 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com
 On 06/11/2015 04:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

  No it's just the Af5x...
 

  Josh Luthman
 
  Office: 937-552-2340
 
  Direct: 937-552-2343
 
  1100 Wayne St
 
  Suite 1337
 
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  On Jun 11, 2015 7:57 PM, Mike Hammett  af...@ics-il.net  wrote:
 

   You seem to have a lot of issues with radios that won't link up. ;-)
  
 

   -
  
 
   Mike Hammett
  
 
   Intelligent Computing Solutions
  
 
   http://www.ics-il.com
  
 

   Midwest Internet Exchange
  
 
   http://www.midwest-ix.com
  
 

   From: Josh Luthman  j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
  
 
   To: af@afmug.com
  
 
   Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 6:56:12 PM
  
 
   Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links
  
 

   EPTP mode fills the latency fix.
  
 

   My first attempt at AF5x and it won't even register. I'm trying to
   replace
   Rockets that link up at -66. I'm told that there's a path issue or bad
   radio.
  
 

   Josh Luthman
  
 
   Office: 937-552-2340
  
 
   Direct: 937-552-2343
  
 
   1100 Wayne St
  
 
   Suite 1337
  
 
   Troy, OH 45373
  
 
   On Jun 11, 2015 7:45 PM, George Skorup  geo...@cbcast.com  wrote:
  
 

Why exactly? Just asking. I'm wondering if we should be doing cheap PTP
with
ePMP or AF5x. I have several Force110 links up (just SMs, not PTP)
operating
all across the 5GHz bands. And one 10 mile link with Laird 2' dishes
using
connectorized non-GPS radios. Other than some oddities like
intermittent
increases in latency, they have all been working very well. Most are
still
running 2.3.3 and I don't want to touch them because they're working
just
fine. I'm leaning towards the Force110 PTP radios and whatever antennas
required for new links since it fits with all the other Canopy and ePMP
stuff (power injection, etc). But the AFs sure are nice when you can do
FDD
(except the 5X!) and get very low latency like licensed.
   
  
 

On 6/11/2015 6:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
   
  
 

 Honestly I think they're better than AF5x at this point.

   
  
 

 Josh Luthman

   
  
 
 Office: 937-552-2340

   
  
 
 Direct: 937-552-2343

   
  
 
 1100 Wayne St

   
  
 
 Suite 1337

   
  
 
 Troy, OH 45373

   
  
 
 On Jun 11, 2015 7:25 PM, joseph marsh  bwireless...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

   
  
 

  I got 2 links ready to deploy just sitting the office waiting to go
  up
  on
  the
  tower
 

   
  
 
  On Jun 11, 2015 5:34 PM, Josh Luthman 
  j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  
  wrote:
 

   
  
 

   Uhm...I guess? It hears noise better than Ubnt for sure.
  
 

   
  
 

   Josh Luthman
  
 

   
  
 
   Office: 937-552-2340
  
 

   
  
 
   Direct: 937-552-2343
  
 

   
  
 
   1100 Wayne St
  
 

   
  
 
   Suite 1337
  
 

   
  
 
   Troy, OH 45373
  
 

   
  
 
   On Jun 11, 2015 6:23 PM, Lewis Bergman 
   lewis.berg...@gmail.com
   
   wrote:
  
 

   
  
 

Does the force auto select a clean frequency?
   
  
 

   
  
 
On Jun 11, 2015 5:13 PM, Mathew Howard  mhoward...@gmail.com

wrote:
   
  
 

   
  
 

 containerized... that must be when you buy a cheap router
 from
 walmart
 in
 put
 it on a tower in a rubbermaid container.

   
  
 

   
  
 

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Bill Prince 
 part15...@gmail.com
 
 wrote:

   
  
 

   
  
 

  You mean connectorized?
 

   
  
 

   
  
 

  bp
 

   
  
 

   
  
 
  part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
 

   
  
 

   
  
 

  On 6/11/2015 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 

   
  
 

   
  
 

   The containerized 5 GHz radios do the same throughput
  
 

   
  
 

   
  
 


Re: [AFMUG] dual pol grid parabolics

2015-06-11 Thread Christopher Gray
I suspect these are the same antennas sold in the US under the name Wiess:

http://store.4netonline.com/WIESS-ANTENNAS-s/1829.htm

I've been wanting to try their 2.4 GHz 22dBi version, but it has been out
of stock for a bit.

-Chris



On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

 I just got an email from that Chinese outfit Lanbowan touting 2 ft dual
 pol grids in 2.4 and 5 GHz.  I know some people were having trouble getting
 through to Lanbowan to buy stuff, but I will say looking at the pictures,
 these look like a reasonable product, depending on whether they would get
 clogged with ice/snow in the winter.

 I wonder why no one has done this before.  Those things that look like
 spaghetti strainers are pointless, the holes are too small to do anything
 for windload.

 http://www.lanbowan.com/ANT4958D28PG-DP.htm
 http://www.lanbowan.com/ANT2327D22PG-DP.htm

 They also list this weird 5 GHz horn:

 http://www.lanbowan.com/ANT5158D18P-DP.htm

 Anybody used their stuff?  Do they ship direct from mainland China?




[AFMUG] Hail

2015-06-11 Thread George Skorup

Holy crap. http://www.weather.gov/lot/10Jun2015

I think we're gonna have to climb and see if any antennas got 
complimentary speed holes. If any of the AF24's we have in Minooka got 
hit, I'll label them airHole (just for Ken) and try to get UBNT to 
replace them under the refurb program. :) They're all working fine right 
now, but the RF links were definitely down during that crap.


Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
EPTP mode fills the latency fix.

My first attempt at AF5x and it won't even register.  I'm trying to replace
Rockets that link up at -66.  I'm told that there's a path issue or bad
radio.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 11, 2015 7:45 PM, George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com wrote:

  Why exactly? Just asking. I'm wondering if we should be doing cheap PTP
 with ePMP or AF5x. I have several Force110 links up (just SMs, not PTP)
 operating all across the 5GHz bands. And one 10 mile link with Laird 2'
 dishes using connectorized non-GPS radios. Other than some oddities like
 intermittent increases in latency, they have all been working very well.
 Most are still running 2.3.3 and I don't want to touch them because they're
 working just fine. I'm leaning towards the Force110 PTP radios and whatever
 antennas required for new links since it fits with all the other Canopy and
 ePMP stuff (power injection, etc). But the AFs sure are nice when you can
 do FDD (except the 5X!) and get very low latency like licensed.

 On 6/11/2015 6:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Honestly I think they're better than AF5x at this point.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jun 11, 2015 7:25 PM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com wrote:

 I got 2 links ready to deploy  just sitting the office waiting to go up
 on the tower
 On Jun 11, 2015 5:34 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 Uhm...I guess?  It hears noise better than Ubnt for sure.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jun 11, 2015 6:23 PM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Does the force auto select a clean frequency?
 On Jun 11, 2015 5:13 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:

 containerized... that must be when you buy a cheap router from walmart
 in put it on a tower in a rubbermaid container.

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 You mean connectorized?

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 6/11/2015 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 The containerized 5 GHz radios do the same throughput







Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Support files said the slave heard the master at -66.  Doubt it.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 11, 2015 8:13 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

   New EIRP rules biting you in the ass?

  *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 6:56 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links


 EPTP mode fills the latency fix.

 My first attempt at AF5x and it won't even register.  I'm trying to
 replace Rockets that link up at -66.  I'm told that there's a path issue or
 bad radio.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jun 11, 2015 7:45 PM, George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com wrote:

 Why exactly? Just asking. I'm wondering if we should be doing cheap PTP
 with ePMP or AF5x. I have several Force110 links up (just SMs, not PTP)
 operating all across the 5GHz bands. And one 10 mile link with Laird 2'
 dishes using connectorized non-GPS radios. Other than some oddities like
 intermittent increases in latency, they have all been working very well.
 Most are still running 2.3.3 and I don't want to touch them because they're
 working just fine. I'm leaning towards the Force110 PTP radios and whatever
 antennas required for new links since it fits with all the other Canopy and
 ePMP stuff (power injection, etc). But the AFs sure are nice when you can
 do FDD (except the 5X!) and get very low latency like licensed.

 On 6/11/2015 6:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Honestly I think they're better than AF5x at this point.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jun 11, 2015 7:25 PM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com wrote:

 I got 2 links ready to deploy  just sitting the office waiting to go up
 on the tower
 On Jun 11, 2015 5:34 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 Uhm...I guess?  It hears noise better than Ubnt for sure.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jun 11, 2015 6:23 PM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Does the force auto select a clean frequency?
 On Jun 11, 2015 5:13 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:

 containerized... that must be when you buy a cheap router from
 walmart in put it on a tower in a rubbermaid container.

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 You mean connectorized?

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 6/11/2015 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 The containerized 5 GHz radios do the same throughput








Re: [AFMUG] Nano Bridge Radio part only

2015-06-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
And I want my MTV!

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 7:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nano Bridge Radio part only

...you want it certified and usable?  Good lord you're greedy.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jun 11, 2015 8:11 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

  Did they release the FW and the license keys?

  From: Josh Luthman 
  Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 6:34 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nano Bridge Radio part only

  Beam did solve that.  If only it would get DFS.  It does have 5.1 though.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Jun 11, 2015 7:32 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com 
wrote:

Is it possible to buy just the radio part?  When we have a failure we just 
swap out the radio.  I must have 30-50 new dishes and mounts on the shelf with 
no radios!!



Adam


Re: [AFMUG] Nano Bridge Radio part only

2015-06-11 Thread Mathew Howard
soon

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 ...you want it certified and usable?  Good lord you're greedy.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jun 11, 2015 8:11 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

   Did they release the FW and the license keys?

  *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 6:34 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nano Bridge Radio part only


 Beam did solve that.  If only it would get DFS.  It does have 5.1 though.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jun 11, 2015 7:32 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com
 wrote:

  Is it possible to buy just the radio part?  When we have a failure we
 just swap out the radio.  I must have 30-50 new dishes and mounts on the
 shelf with no radios!!



 Adam




Re: [AFMUG] dual pol grid parabolics

2015-06-11 Thread Mathew Howard
I looked into getting some of their antennas awhile back. they seemed to be
willing to ship from China, but they didn't seem interested unless I bought
a large quantity.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

 I just got an email from that Chinese outfit Lanbowan touting 2 ft dual
 pol grids in 2.4 and 5 GHz.  I know some people were having trouble getting
 through to Lanbowan to buy stuff, but I will say looking at the pictures,
 these look like a reasonable product, depending on whether they would get
 clogged with ice/snow in the winter.

 I wonder why no one has done this before.  Those things that look like
 spaghetti strainers are pointless, the holes are too small to do anything
 for windload.

 http://www.lanbowan.com/ANT4958D28PG-DP.htm
 http://www.lanbowan.com/ANT2327D22PG-DP.htm

 They also list this weird 5 GHz horn:

 http://www.lanbowan.com/ANT5158D18P-DP.htm

 Anybody used their stuff?  Do they ship direct from mainland China?




Re: [AFMUG] dual pol grid parabolics

2015-06-11 Thread Josh Reynolds

I know they emailed you, but how did you find this shit? :P

Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

On 06/11/2015 04:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I just got an email from that Chinese outfit Lanbowan touting 2 ft 
dual pol grids in 2.4 and 5 GHz.  I know some people were having 
trouble getting through to Lanbowan to buy stuff, but I will say 
looking at the pictures, these look like a reasonable product, 
depending on whether they would get clogged with ice/snow in the winter.


I wonder why no one has done this before.  Those things that look like 
spaghetti strainers are pointless, the holes are too small to do 
anything for windload.


http://www.lanbowan.com/ANT4958D28PG-DP.htm
http://www.lanbowan.com/ANT2327D22PG-DP.htm

They also list this weird 5 GHz horn:

http://www.lanbowan.com/ANT5158D18P-DP.htm

Anybody used their stuff?  Do they ship direct from mainland China?





Re: [AFMUG] dual pol grid parabolics

2015-06-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
I think they were at WISPAmerica in Little Rock, so that's probably how they 
got my email address.  The ad they sent was about the dual pol grids and had 
the first 2 links I posted, when I clicked I saw the weird horn on their 
website which is where I got the 3rd link.  Nothing more to it.



-Original Message- 
From: Josh Reynolds

Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 8:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] dual pol grid parabolics

I know they emailed you, but how did you find this shit? :P

Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

On 06/11/2015 04:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I just got an email from that Chinese outfit Lanbowan touting 2 ft dual 
pol grids in 2.4 and 5 GHz.  I know some people were having trouble 
getting through to Lanbowan to buy stuff, but I will say looking at the 
pictures, these look like a reasonable product, depending on whether they 
would get clogged with ice/snow in the winter.


I wonder why no one has done this before.  Those things that look like 
spaghetti strainers are pointless, the holes are too small to do anything 
for windload.


http://www.lanbowan.com/ANT4958D28PG-DP.htm
http://www.lanbowan.com/ANT2327D22PG-DP.htm

They also list this weird 5 GHz horn:

http://www.lanbowan.com/ANT5158D18P-DP.htm

Anybody used their stuff?  Do they ship direct from mainland China?






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