Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router

2016-06-04 Thread Josh Reynolds
You actually don't want SFPs for consumer products and many applications. It's more economical (and other reasons) to use the existing UTP if possible, hence 2.5/5/25Gbps Ethernet over UTP and G.FAST over cat3/cat5. On Jun 4, 2016 10:43 PM, "Jason Wilson" wrote: > Semd

Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router

2016-06-04 Thread Jason Wilson
Semd Mike Hammett after them. He will get SFP's put on your refrigerator soon. On Jun 4, 2016 11:52 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" wrote: > Nice. > > > > Looks like it won’t be approved for production until September, and who > knows when routers will implement it. > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] 420

2016-06-04 Thread Jaime Solorza
Amen On Jun 4, 2016 10:36 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > One of my sons is starting his final year in electrical engineering this > fall. > Will be taking an RF design class ECEN420. > > I grinned and told him he is might have a hard time remembering the > lectures, he replied

Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router

2016-06-04 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Nice. Looks like it won’t be approved for production until September, and who knows when routers will implement it. Probably a couple years before it’s scale makes it cheap and Mikrotik adopts it… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router

2016-06-04 Thread Josh Reynolds
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2.5GBASE-T_and_5GBASE-T On Jun 4, 2016 1:45 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" wrote: > So are you saying there is a standard coming out that can do over 1Gbps > over Cat5e? > > > > I would like to see that sooner than later. > > > > I can’t sell

Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router

2016-06-04 Thread Sterling Jacobson
So are you saying there is a standard coming out that can do over 1Gbps over Cat5e? I would like to see that sooner than later. I can’t sell anything above a 1 Gigabit over existing house wire because there are no transceivers or routers that handle more than GigE. From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router

2016-06-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
You’ll need a $1500 USB cable to go with that router. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 1:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router Does that thing walk around? On Saturday, June 4, 2016, Sterling Jacobson wrote: You

Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router

2016-06-04 Thread Josh Reynolds
802.11ad is going to bring 5Gbps and 10Gbps Ethernet into the mainstream... in about 3-5 years. Most devices aren't but 1x1 or 2x2 on 802.11ac, which drastically limits their bandwidth, even on 80mhz and 80+80 channels. An 8x8 radio on 802.11AC 3rd gen with all clients and the AP capable of

Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router

2016-06-04 Thread Jason McKemie
Does that thing walk around? On Saturday, June 4, 2016, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > You sound like the guy in 2003 that told me no one will ever need more > than 10Mbps, why would a home want an internet connection at 10Mbps. > > > > I’m in a business building

Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router

2016-06-04 Thread Sterling Jacobson
You sound like the guy in 2003 that told me no one will ever need more than 10Mbps, why would a home want an internet connection at 10Mbps. I’m in a business building infrastructure for the next 10-20 years, so this is where I am looking at 10Gbps to the home. There are actual ISP’s that sell

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bitcoin in the $570's time to unload?

2016-06-04 Thread Kade Sullivan
The reward for mining a block is about to go from 25 coins to 12 coins. I'm guessing the price will go crazy at that point as well. Coinbase seems to think this may happen in august. Anyone thats into mining know anything about this that can offer more insight? On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 3:11 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bought a new printer cable

2016-06-04 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 6/3/16 22:33, Eric Kuhnke wrote: My HP LaserJet is now hovering 4" above the tablet and emitting bolts of blue lightning. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/audioquest-16-4-usb-a-to-usb-b-cable-black-gray/4022646.p?id=1218449994838=4022646 The 16.4' length is extremely optimal.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bought a new printer cable

2016-06-04 Thread Jason McKemie
They probably have. Wouldn't take too many to make a ton of money either. I've heard sales guys pitching their HDMI cables, as though they give you a better picture - apparently they make 1's and 0's shinier as well. It's what I like to call the "Cristal syndrome". On Saturday, June 4, 2016, Josh

[AFMUG] 420

2016-06-04 Thread Chuck McCown
One of my sons is starting his final year in electrical engineering this fall. Will be taking an RF design class ECEN420. I grinned and told him he is might have a hard time remembering the lectures, he replied “yeah, too much magic smoke”. (All my sons are returned Mormon missionaries,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bought a new printer cable

2016-06-04 Thread Bill Prince
Steve Martin had a concert plan like that. $10,000 a ticket. The beauty of it was he only needed to do one concert. bp On 6/4/2016 9:14 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: I think I just found a new business model. I'm going to spray paint nano loco m5's, and change out

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bought a new printer cable

2016-06-04 Thread Mathew Howard
I think we should start offering our customers a special gold plated power beam for just $500 a month extra... guaranteed to make your internet service 100% shinier and far more corrosion resistant. On Jun 4, 2016 11:14 AM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > I think I just found a

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bought a new printer cable

2016-06-04 Thread Josh Luthman
The reviews are pretty fantastic =) This cord is made out the best silver mined from Bolivia at it's peak freshness. What most users don't realize is that if the cord is connected to a game controller and you press up up down down left right left right start select you will activate the genie

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bought a new printer cable

2016-06-04 Thread Josh Reynolds
Ever seen "rich kids of Instagram"? I bet they have sold more than a few. On Jun 4, 2016 11:13 AM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > I wonder if they've ever sold one... > On Jun 4, 2016 11:08 AM, "Jason McKemie" > wrote: > >> Good lord, I had no

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bought a new printer cable

2016-06-04 Thread Josh Reynolds
I bet they've sold a few, that's the sad part. On Jun 4, 2016 11:13 AM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > I wonder if they've ever sold one... > On Jun 4, 2016 11:08 AM, "Jason McKemie" > wrote: > >> Good lord, I had no idea these hucksters made

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bought a new printer cable

2016-06-04 Thread Josh Reynolds
I think I just found a new business model. I'm going to spray paint nano loco m5's, and change out the LED colors. Ubiquiti Mega Loco M5 - Blue Steel Edition WiFi bridging so silky smooth and fast, the bits can't help but move themselves. On Jun 4, 2016 11:08 AM, "Jason McKemie"

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bought a new printer cable

2016-06-04 Thread Mathew Howard
I wonder if they've ever sold one... On Jun 4, 2016 11:08 AM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: > Good lord, I had no idea these hucksters made USB cables. > > On Saturday, June 4, 2016, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > >> My HP LaserJet is now hovering 4"

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bought a new printer cable

2016-06-04 Thread Jason McKemie
Good lord, I had no idea these hucksters made USB cables. On Saturday, June 4, 2016, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > My HP LaserJet is now hovering 4" above the tablet and emitting bolts of > blue lightning. > > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bought a new printer cable

2016-06-04 Thread Jay Weekley
I just bought two of these for our office. Eric Kuhnke wrote: My HP LaserJet is now hovering 4" above the tablet and emitting bolts of blue lightning. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/audioquest-16-4-usb-a-to-usb-b-cable-black-gray/4022646.p?id=1218449994838=4022646

Re: [AFMUG] Cord is cut

2016-06-04 Thread Chuck McCown
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Re: [AFMUG] Cord is cut

2016-06-04 Thread Chuck McCown
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Re: [AFMUG] Cord is cut

2016-06-04 Thread Chuck McCown
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Bought a new printer cable

2016-06-04 Thread can...@believewireless.net
The reviews are hilarious. On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 1:33 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > My HP LaserJet is now hovering 4" above the tablet and emitting bolts of > blue lightning. > > >

Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router

2016-06-04 Thread Darin Steffl
There is not a single residential sub who would need a 10 gig home router. That's insane and router manufacturers aren't gonna make one until more isps are selling 10 gig. Anyway it's silly to even think a single home needs a gig. They still only average about the same usage as a 20 mbps wireless

Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router

2016-06-04 Thread Josh Reynolds
I was about to get to that actually :) I'm still not sure where his gripe lies. I think it's something along the lines of wanting a 10G "home router". On Jun 4, 2016 1:28 AM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > thats the reason for the push for 5 and 25 Gbps Ethernet > > On Sat, Jun

Re: [AFMUG] SwOS FYI

2016-06-04 Thread Josh Reynolds
Eh, vyatta/vyos/edgeos/brocade vrouter is a pretty fine routing system. I can get along on mikrotik just fine despite it's quirks, but EdgeOS is very similar to JUNOS for me. The fiber Poe has space for fiber slack storage, as does the larger edgepoints (that are appropriately sized for conduit

Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router

2016-06-04 Thread Gino Villarini
iirc there is a limited number of 10gpon routers in the market On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 2:28 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: > thats the reason for the push for 5 and 25 Gbps Ethernet > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 12:44 AM, Josh Reynolds > wrote: > >> I'm quite

Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router

2016-06-04 Thread Gino Villarini
thats the reason for the push for 5 and 25 Gbps Ethernet On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 12:44 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > I'm quite confused. Can you explain exactly what you want to do, and in > your opinion, where the problem lies? > On Jun 3, 2016 11:42 PM, "Sterling Jacobson"