Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers

2017-05-31 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Care to share on-list or off-list as to what is the core reason why you are looking for such ? i.e. a regulatory issue ? A Technical Issue ? or a perceived convenience issue ? We can easily provide you with such a service, but depending on the core issue you are trying to solve it may or

Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers

2017-05-31 Thread Lewis Bergman
Sorry. That was rude. On Wed, May 31, 2017, 8:36 PM Lewis Bergman wrote: > Maybe you didn't read it. Maybe you don't know whay your talking about in > this specific instance. Maybe I don't. I am betting just this once it's > you. Unless you have been a carrier in a

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-31 Thread Hardy, Tim
As of today, no US paths have been coordinated or applied for with these radios. From: Af on behalf of SmarterBroadband Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:43:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences Any

Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers

2017-05-31 Thread Lewis Bergman
Maybe you didn't read it. Maybe you don't know whay your talking about in this specific instance. Maybe I don't. I am betting just this once it's you. Unless you have been a carrier in a remote rate center trying to get those NXX's somewhere else you may not be aware how this works. You can't

Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers

2017-05-31 Thread Mike Hammett
He's not asking for anything special, other than the ratecenter he wants covered. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Lewis Bergman" To: af@afmug.com Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers

2017-05-31 Thread Lewis Bergman
NetSapiens does software. We have about 25 NXX's assigned to us. There is no way a standard voip provider can do what you want Chuck. You have to have somebody with an A-Z code and class 5 switch like you have. You then have to reassign that block to that switch. You then have to route that to

Re: [AFMUG] Google Cloud

2017-05-31 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I don’t run or store anything on my own desktops or servers anymore. On a set of cloud hosted VM’s that I’m not currently paying for I have the following: Platypus, Quickbooks, The Dude monitoring, UBNT services like Camera DVR and mFi etc, another Mikrotik CHR All of my files and email are on

Re: [AFMUG] Google Cloud

2017-05-31 Thread Nate Burke
What all are you using the cloud for? I can't think of why I would need it to run the ISP Side, or are you doing other client services. On 5/31/2017 5:23 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: I use linode and vultr. I relly like vultr, I just wish they were in more locations. Wish I could provide

Re: [AFMUG] Google Cloud

2017-05-31 Thread Josh Reynolds
I use linode and vultr. I relly like vultr, I just wish they were in more locations. Wish I could provide you info on Google cloud, but all I have is other options :) - Josh On May 31, 2017 11:20 AM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > Speaking of cloud based, has anyone

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-31 Thread SmarterBroadband
Any members using Cablefree Licensed Links? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Patrick Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences Dear all, Apologies I've only just seen this post, A small input from

Re: [AFMUG] CAT6/6 LAN WAN testers

2017-05-31 Thread Chuck McCown
Hoping to find a DTX-1200 From: Mitch Koep Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 3:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CAT6/6 LAN WAN testers +1000 We have this one too ... On 5/31/2017 11:22 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: I have a Fluke DTX1800 that I like but it is a bit pricey. It

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-31 Thread Mitch Koep
Please send pricing to mi...@abwisp.com Mitch On 5/31/2017 12:30 PM, Stephen Patrick wrote: Up to 880Mbps full duplex using 1024QAM, single polarisation, and 112MHz spectrum.

Re: [AFMUG] CAT6/6 LAN WAN testers

2017-05-31 Thread Mitch Koep
+1000 We have this one too ... On 5/31/2017 11:22 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: I have a Fluke DTX1800 that I like but it is a bit pricey. It certifies to gigE and that may be more than you want. If you have a customer that wnats a printed certification of building wiring it can be handy. On

Re: [AFMUG] migrating rb to ccr

2017-05-31 Thread George Skorup
No. Nothing sensitive is exported. No passwords. No SSH keys. No system/host SSH keys. The only time you get those is in a binary backup. And restoring a binary backup from one architecture to another is asking for trouble. The only time I'd use it is when replacing with identical hardware.

Re: [AFMUG] migrating rb to ccr

2017-05-31 Thread Steve Jones
crumbs, I was hoping it would see the copper modules and name them etherx, that's why I hadn't even booted it yet, waiting on those. no big deal, just do a find and replace on the export. Unimus backups are just compact exports aren't they, so the macs should not come over and the keys/password

Re: [AFMUG] Google Cloud

2017-05-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Unlimited disk space (up to 22GB then they delete the oldest files) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > That pricing doesn’t show disk space. I assume

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-31 Thread Chuck McCown
But that’s only if you want to do that optional goofy license thingy. But if you are a sovereign nation with the right kind of fringe on your flag you can pretty much do anything you want. From: Hardy, Tim Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 12:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-31 Thread Hardy, Tim
6 pairs @ 80 MHz bw 12 pairs @ 40 MHz bw 13 pairs @ 30 MHz bw From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences 10.7-11.7 / 2 for duplex channel pairs. I forget exactly how it's laid out,

Re: [AFMUG] migrating rb to ccr

2017-05-31 Thread George Skorup
Just remember that you'll be going from etherX to sfpX interface names, so you'll have to edit the export and adjust interface names for IP addresses, OSPF interfaces, VLANs, etc. On 5/31/2017 10:47 AM, Colin Stanners wrote: I can't say for sure without seeing the config, but usually just

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-31 Thread George Skorup
10.7-11.7 / 2 for duplex channel pairs. I forget exactly how it's laid out, but I think it's something like 5 or 6 pairs for the 80MHz channel plan and 11 or 12 pairs for the 40MHz channel plan. On 5/31/2017 10:58 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: How many usable 11ghz channels are there? I looked on

Re: [AFMUG] Google Cloud

2017-05-31 Thread Sterling Jacobson
That pricing doesn’t show disk space. I assume you have to add that and it’s extra per month? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 11:00 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Cloud Google cloud is definitely lower cost than

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-31 Thread Stephen Patrick
Dear all, Apologies I've only just seen this post, A small input from CableFree. Aware we are a vendor so only leaving a short post. The CableFree FOR3 product line is popular with ISPs in some countries. Available in many bands including 11GHz (and other bands 5-26GHz, including 24 UL, if

Re: [AFMUG] Pull blade vs chute blade

2017-05-31 Thread Joe
Pic attached of a serrated blade with a small chute From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:14 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pull blade vs chute blade I've done the chute method and the pull blade. After many times

Re: [AFMUG] Google Cloud

2017-05-31 Thread Harold Bledsoe
Google cloud is definitely lower cost than AWS. We use them at IgniteNet and been very happy. We started on Digital Ocean. It seemed more for tinkering. -Hal On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 12:20 PM Lewis Bergman wrote: > Speaking of cloud based, has anyone used Google

Re: [AFMUG] Google Cloud

2017-05-31 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 5/31/17 09:43, Mike Hammett wrote: Cloud is indeed expensive. I've heard it from many people many times. It solves some needs, but it is not good for many. It is not the holy grail. Although it is certainly treated as the holy grail one and only solution. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Google Cloud

2017-05-31 Thread Mike Hammett
Cloud is indeed expensive. I've heard it from many people many times. It solves some needs, but it is not good for many. It is not the holy grail. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From:

Re: [AFMUG] CAT6/6 LAN WAN testers

2017-05-31 Thread Chuck McCown
Fluke has some units they call CAT8 testers. From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CAT6/6 LAN WAN testers I want one, but that can certify the newer standards of 2.5 and 5Ghz over Cat6. Anyone seen anything like that?

Re: [AFMUG] Google Cloud

2017-05-31 Thread Sterling Jacobson
What’s the difference in pricing for Preemptible? Does that mean the standard ‘shared’ architecture? Or is it something that user would notice on a regular REST call or web access at all? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:20 AM

Re: [AFMUG] CAT6/6 LAN WAN testers

2017-05-31 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I want one, but that can certify the newer standards of 2.5 and 5Ghz over Cat6. Anyone seen anything like that? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:27 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CAT6/6 LAN WAN testers I will take a look

Re: [AFMUG] CAT6/6 LAN WAN testers

2017-05-31 Thread Chuck McCown
I will take a look at that. Yes, GigE is needed. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CAT6/6 LAN WAN testers I have a Fluke DTX1800 that I like but it is a bit pricey. It certifies to gigE and that may be more than you want. If

Re: [AFMUG] CAT6/6 LAN WAN testers

2017-05-31 Thread Lewis Bergman
I have a Fluke DTX1800 that I like but it is a bit pricey. It certifies to gigE and that may be more than you want. If you have a customer that wnats a printed certification of building wiring it can be handy. On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 11:02 AM Chuck McCown wrote: > Looking for a

[AFMUG] Google Cloud

2017-05-31 Thread Lewis Bergman
Speaking of cloud based, has anyone used Google Cloud? I have been getting emails and just looked into it. The pricing seems to cheap to be true. I ditched Amazon AppStream2.0 when I forgot to turn off my app and received a $650 bill for leaving it up all month. They refunded the money since I had

Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers

2017-05-31 Thread Mike Hammett
NetSapiens does equipment, not service. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Lewis Bergman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 11:10:23 AM

Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers

2017-05-31 Thread Lewis Bergman
CTI uses NetSapiens as do some others. They are a bit more expensive than some alternatives but if they do what they said they would do (handle 100% of all porting) that can be worth a bit depending on how big an ass your losing carrier wants to be. If this is going to be a main revenue source I

[AFMUG] CAT6/6 LAN WAN testers

2017-05-31 Thread Chuck McCown
Looking for a 10/100/1000 tester that will do NEXT, FEXT, capacitance, CRC BER etc etc. Used to use an EXFO for this but that tester is gone and my Ideal tester is lacking a few parameters. Looking over the EXFO website, there are way too many units and most of them have a fiber focus.

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-31 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
How many usable 11ghz channels are there? I looked on the Mimosa cloud map and only one other 11ghz registered link in my area and it doesn't appear to be in path with any of my towers. On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > Yep, called links J > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers

2017-05-31 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I am using the CTI white label solution and it is very reliable, biggest plus is no hardware and servers to maintain in my office. Its all cloud based. On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 11:38 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > I waited for Ooma since last WISPAPALOOZA. Finally gave up and

[AFMUG] OT: Aerial Tower Porn

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Re: [AFMUG] migrating rb to ccr

2017-05-31 Thread Colin Stanners
I can't say for sure without seeing the config, but usually just remove MAC addresses and L2MTU settings in config. On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > is there any major difference? we will be using the copper modules, not > fiber is it a simple

[AFMUG] migrating rb to ccr

2017-05-31 Thread Steve Jones
is there any major difference? we will be using the copper modules, not fiber is it a simple compact export

Re: [AFMUG] Pull blade vs chute blade

2017-05-31 Thread Chuck McCown
I am a big believer in vibratory plows. From: Chuck Hogg Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 7:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pull blade vs chute blade That's correct. The wider the width, the more friction. We use a blade that can install a 3/4" conduit or cable size on the 410.

Re: [AFMUG] Pull blade vs chute blade

2017-05-31 Thread Chuck Hogg
We do 24" in clay. Regards, Chuck On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > What size chute blade are you able to use with the 410sx? > > On Tuesday, May 30, 2017, Chuck Hogg wrote: > >> I've done the chute method and the

Re: [AFMUG] Pull blade vs chute blade

2017-05-31 Thread Chuck Hogg
That's correct. The wider the width, the more friction. We use a blade that can install a 3/4" conduit or cable size on the 410. Regards, Chuck On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 6:13 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > I assume there are different widths? For instance a wide