Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B24 real world thoughts?

B24 is an excellent radio for the following situation:- 1) Short links (lets just say under 1.5 miles give or take). 2) need small size radio 3) need low power consumption 4) need to stack a few in different directions on the same mast. 5) need a fat pipe, which is not available from 5ghz due

Re: [AFMUG] we dead?

I thought I might have been in a roman wilderness of pain This is the end Beautiful friend This is the end My only friend, the end On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Where do you think you ended up, my good Steve? I could quote you some > Dante, Milton or Marlowe!!!

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B24 real world thoughts?

I am in El Paso...real men don't need water Jaime Solorza On Wed, May 30, 2018, 7:07 PM Adair Winter wrote: > Unless you live in a very dry are I think 2 miles is pushing it. In rane > zone E (yes I know) we don't expect any sort of reliability past 1-1.5 > miles. > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B24 real world thoughts?

Unless you live in a very dry are I think 2 miles is pushing it. In rane zone E (yes I know) we don't expect any sort of reliability past 1-1.5 miles. On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 8:04 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Range for Mimosa is 2 miles? Small footprint, lower price...I see it has > place in

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B24 real world thoughts?

Range for Mimosa is 2 miles? Small footprint, lower price...I see it has place in downtown or campus application... another tool for us.. Jaime Solorza On Wed, May 30, 2018, 6:59 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > The AF is much larger and thus has much more gain. > > > > - > Mike Hammett >

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B24 real world thoughts?

af24 is also full duplex, if that matters to you. On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 7:59 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > The AF is much larger and thus has much more gain. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > >

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B24 real world thoughts?

The AF is much larger and thus has much more gain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Baird" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 6:30:31 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] tower assembly in Northern WI

I know what you mean. I had a flight instructor think I was an idiot during autorotation practice in a helicopter. From my point of view I took the rotor speed right up to the red line. But since he was in the left seat parallax error made it look like I was overspeeding the rotor and he

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B24 real world thoughts?

What makes it not a replacement for the AF24? > On May 30, 2018, at 7:14 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: > > We have several links installed, so far so good… not really a af24 > replacement, but… works for the application > > From: Af on behalf of Sam Lambie > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" >

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B24 real world thoughts?

We have several links installed, so far so good… not really a af24 replacement, but… works for the application From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Sam Lambie mailto:samtaos...@gmail.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Wednesday, May

Re: [AFMUG] For sale: Canopy PMP450i 900mhz APs

Now sold On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 2:26 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > Yup > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Brandon Yuchasz > wrote: > >> Still got these available? >> >> Brandon >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Friday, May 25,

Re: [AFMUG] tower assembly in Northern WI

Yeah, it happened 25 years ago and it still pisses off. On Wed, May 30, 2018, 4:10 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > Somebody oughtta go to prison for a thing like that... although union hall > catching fire does sound like a pretty good compromise... > > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 4:07 PM, wrote: > >>

Re: [AFMUG] Test

Yeah, looks like that message took about 24 hours to get to the list. On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: > It is again taking ~24H to post to the list. I just saw a post I sent > yesterday re power over LMR400. > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Jason McKemie < >

Re: [AFMUG] tower assembly in Northern WI

Somebody oughtta go to prison for a thing like that... although union hall catching fire does sound like a pretty good compromise... On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 4:07 PM, wrote: > I think that would be a good case for RICO. Perhaps get some kind of > prosecutor to attempt to raise hell with the

Re: [AFMUG] tower assembly in Northern WI

FBI might. Racketeering against interstate commerce. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 2:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tower assembly in Northern WI Whom would you sue? No actual proof who did it. The sheriff in that heavily Union area wasn't hot on even

Re: [AFMUG] tower assembly in Northern WI

I think that would be a good case for RICO. Perhaps get some kind of prosecutor to attempt to raise hell with the union. Funny, union hall might catch fire too... From: Robert Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 1:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tower assembly in Northern WI Darn, (

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp vs 450 - DFS events

This is interesting. I definitely want to be in compliance, but I also know that these detection are 100% false. We have redundant AP's on the same tower mounted at the same height pointing the same direction, but 20mhz apart, and they don't trip DFS. It's like there is a magical packet or

Re: [AFMUG] tower assembly in Northern WI

Whom would you sue? No actual proof who did it. The sheriff in that heavily Union area wasn't hot on even coming out, much less prosecuting. On Wed, May 30, 2018, 3:17 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > I should think that would be actionable. > I've never sued anybody, but I think I would over that. >

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp vs 450 - DFS events

I’ll vouch for Sean’s experience on these – we also had to roll back a bunch of DFS 15.1-15.1.3 APs to 15.0.2 to deal with a ridiculous level of false radar detections. I haven’t yet tried 15.1.5 on any of those, but there wasn’t any indication they dealt with that in release notes. n

Re: [AFMUG] RV park network design

Aren't they running power for RVs to each space, especially if these are long term rentals? On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: > ONT+NID takes space, also where do you get power for the ONT? Using 120V > on the same pole is an option but I'd prefer not rely directly on >

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp vs 450 - DFS events

​For ePMP it depends on the version number. 2.6.2.1 had very stable DFS performance and for APs where we saw issues, we have left it there. Some links are working fine on the latest firmware though.​ On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 3:50 PM, George Skorup wrote: > My experience is exactly the opposite

Re: [AFMUG] RV park network design

ONT+NID takes space, also where do you get power for the ONT? Using 120V on the same pole is an option but I'd prefer not rely directly on (sometimes questionable) 120V power in such places, or putting a PoE-powered ONT. On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 3:29 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: > Why run ethernet?

Re: [AFMUG] RV park network design

Why run ethernet? This seems ideal for fiber. Put a small box for the ONT on the same pole as the electrical hookup with about 20 ft of ethernet cable so they can drag it through a window and call it a day. Rent them a cheap router if they want wifi or mount a small loco ac or something running as

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for PMP 320 SM's

We got what we needed. Thanks everyone! On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 3:28 PM Ryan Ray wrote: > We have approximately 50, let me know how many you need > > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > >> We have Telrad 3000, Telrad 6000, and Telrad 7000. >> Telrad 3000 is the same as

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for PMP 320 SM's

We have approximately 50, let me know how many you need On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > We have Telrad 3000, Telrad 6000, and Telrad 7000. > Telrad 3000 is the same as PMP320 but with different firmware. > > I'm sure these won't work with Motorola's bridge mode, but they

Re: [AFMUG] tower assembly in Northern WI

I should think that would be actionable. I've never sued anybody, but I think I would over that. On 5/30/2018 3:57 PM, Robert wrote: Darn, ( using polite word ) I have friends that would stack again and sit by, armed, just looking for the opportunity to "discuss"...   That pissed off about

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for PMP 320 SM's

We have Telrad 3000, Telrad 6000, and Telrad 7000. Telrad 3000 is the same as PMP320 but with different firmware. I'm sure these won't work with Motorola's bridge mode, but they are Wimax and ought to connect.  If they would help you any, let me know. On 5/30/2018 3:51 PM, Eric Muehleisen

Re: [AFMUG] Bad surge card symptoms between MT and Rocket

I'm wondering from other MT/UBNT users if they had similar symptoms and it is in fact a bad card. I'm really hoping that's all it is - easier for me to fix (as it's done) and you make another buck. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] test

Which day? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 3:48 PM, wrote: > Sent 12:27 MDT >

Re: [AFMUG] tower assembly in Northern WI

Darn, ( using polite word ) I have friends that would stack again and sit by, armed, just looking for the opportunity to "discuss"...   That pissed off about private property trespassing out here in NV... On 5/30/18 12:52 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: I think it was Wisconsin in winter where we

Re: [AFMUG] RV park network design

Be careful of selling service over Wi-FI... customers buy "signal boosters" that run their own DHCP server, or they see a very strong signal to their booster and complain that their service sucks (don't understand that the signal from the booster to your network is low). And there's interference

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for PMP 320 SM's

We had some before, I will check if we still have some to sell. On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: > Major storms rolled through our territory and took out a bunch of our PMP > 320 SM's. Our inventory is getting a little light. Please let me know if > you can part with any.

Re: [AFMUG] RV park network design

lynksees router in a rubbermaid container and lots of rtv. Zip tie to power pole. From: Dennis Burgess Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 1:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV park network design We do this all of the time, design, sell you hardware, help you with configuration, etc,

Re: [AFMUG] For sale: Canopy PMP450i 900mhz APs

Yup On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: > Still got these available? > > Brandon > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Friday, May 25, 2018 3:01 PM > *To:* af > *Subject:* [AFMUG] For sale: Canopy PMP450i 900mhz APs > > >

Re: [AFMUG] FW: ISP Radio at 11am Central

This message just dropped into bin... strange Jaime Solorza On Wed, May 30, 2018, 1:25 PM Dennis Burgess wrote: > www.ispradio.com .. > > > > *From:* members-boun...@wispa.org *On Behalf > Of *Claude Aiken > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 30, 2018 9:29 AM > *To:* members > *Subject:* [WISPA

Re: [AFMUG] Multiple cable wall pass-through

I am assuming here you meant tannerite On 5/30/18 10:59 AM, Dave wrote: I heard Tenamite works well in these situations LOL kidding dont use that stuff On 05/25/2018 10:16 PM, Steve Jones wrote: you want six cables in one hole or 6 holes? 1/2 inch glands is what i use on single cables,

Re: [AFMUG] we dead?

Sounds like the beginning of a song... On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 1:54 PM Steve Jones wrote: > is that it? is this the end? >

Re: [AFMUG] tower assembly in Northern WI

I think it was Wisconsin in winter where we stacked a 485 foot tower. Next day we came to the site to finish cleanup and it had been cut down. They were kind enough to leave a sign on the fence as to which union local we should contact if we wanted to build it again. Thugs. The moral of the story,

[AFMUG] Looking for PMP 320 SM's

Major storms rolled through our territory and took out a bunch of our PMP 320 SM's. Our inventory is getting a little light. Please let me know if you can part with any.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Solo

I saw Star Wars in 70s...first one...yawn Jaime Solorza On Wed, May 30, 2018, 12:51 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > I liked it. Critics are panning it but I thought it was as fun as most > Star Wars movies. > > Somebody should have gotten shot under the table though. >

Re: [AFMUG] we dead?

Where do you think you ended up, my good Steve? I could quote you some Dante, Milton or Marlowe!!! Hahaha (inject Vincent Price laughing malevolently) Jaime Solorza On Wed, May 30, 2018, 12:54 PM Steve Jones wrote: > is that it? is this the end? >

Re: [AFMUG] Test

Works all the way to within 10 miles of the Pacific Ocean. bp On 5/30/2018 11:34 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: Is this thing on?

Re: [AFMUG] Test

It is again taking ~24H to post to the list. I just saw a post I sent yesterday re power over LMR400. On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Is this thing on? -- Carl Peterson *PORT NETWORKS* 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD

Re: [AFMUG] RV park network design

we have a campground running conduit from the tower where they get our service to the middle of a campsite cluster to a pole theyre putting in. We know we will put fiber in the conduit, thats as far as we have gotten. We have the option to monetize, but instead are letting the campground mother

Re: [AFMUG] Test

Looks like it. Get Outlook for iOS From: Af on behalf of Jason McKemie Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 1:34:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Test Is this thing on?

Re: [AFMUG] Power over LMR400

It is rated for 16 kW but that may be dielectric breakdown voltage limitation. But we know it will at least do that. So sqrt(16k/50)=17.88 amps From: Carl Peterson Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 12:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Power over LMR400 How many AMPs can I safely push over

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp vs 450 - DFS events

My experience is exactly the opposite here. ePMP seems more sensitive to DFS events. By far. On 5/30/2018 12:25 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: Anyone noticed that apparently the Epmp radios are less prone to DFS events? Im assuming most are false caused by RF interference, but I see way less

Re: [AFMUG] Test

Uno Dos Tres Jaime Solorza On Wed, May 30, 2018, 12:34 PM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Is this thing on?

[AFMUG] test

Sent 12:27 MDT

Re: [AFMUG] Bad surge card symptoms between MT and Rocket

Surge protectors get wounded when they are doing their jobs. They can only take so many hits before they start causing trouble. No good way to test them. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 12:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Bad surge card symptoms between MT and

Re: [AFMUG] RV park network design

Also note, that Ethernet is not complicated, Hotspot it and go from there. Don’t forget to sell cards for internet access. I.e. you put a small vending machine there that sells them 1 day or 7 days etc access. From: Af On Behalf Of castarritt Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 1:08 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] RV park network design

RV's are aluminum cans.  My experience with wifi to campers and RV's has not been positive.  Outdoor coverage is easy, getting it reliably into all the RV's is less easy. If you don't run wires now while you can, then you'll regret it later IMO.  Ideally do both, there will be people who

Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyser

Yep http://rfexplorer.com/models/ Jaime Solorza On Wed, May 30, 2018, 12:09 PM Matt wrote: > Anyone know of an affordable spectrum analyser that covers ~ 0.9-6hz or > better? >

Re: [AFMUG] RV park network design

We do this all of the time, design, sell you hardware, help you with configuration, etc, everything. Give us a call 314-735-0270… Dennis From: Af On Behalf Of castarritt Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 1:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] RV park network design We were approached by a

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] SOHO router hack

Seeing this on 5/30 @ 12:32pm central time. On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: > Test > > From: on behalf of Sean Heskett < > af...@zirkel.us> > Reply-To: "memb...@wispa.org" > Date: Friday, May 25, 2018 at 7:19 PM > To: WISPA General List , "af@afmug.com" , >

Re: [AFMUG] N-connector Patch

Looks like the list might be back. They rebooted the VM that it was on. From: Jason Wilson Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 10:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] N-connector Patch Make your own. On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 5:47 PM Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: Agreed, but the way

[AFMUG] FW: ISP Radio at 11am Central

www.ispradio.com .. From: members-boun...@wispa.org On Behalf Of Claude Aiken Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 9:29 AM To: members Subject: [WISPA Members] ISP Radio at 11am Central Folks, I'm joining Dennis to talk what is going on with WISPA on ISP Radio today at

[AFMUG] we dead?

is that it? is this the end?

Re: [AFMUG] For sale: Canopy PMP450i 900mhz APs

Still got these available? Brandon From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 3:01 PM To: af Subject: [AFMUG] For sale: Canopy PMP450i 900mhz APs I have a couple of brand new PMP-450i 900mhz APs, sitting on the shelf, that it doesn't

[AFMUG] OT Movie Solo

I liked it. Critics are panning it but I thought it was as fun as most Star Wars movies. Somebody should have gotten shot under the table though.

[AFMUG] Power over LMR400

How many AMPs can I safely push over LMR-400 at 48V? Around 175'. I would like to power a Netonix IDC switch off of my DC plant using 10-15A but I'm not sure what LMR is rated for.

[AFMUG] Test

Is this thing on?

Re: [AFMUG] tower assembly in Northern WI

I would recommend joining the largest Facebook tower industry specific groups (search groups for tower climbing, tower, etc). There's about four of them that are really active, and between the groups probably 30,000 members in total. Put out a message that you're looking for a contractor and see

Re: [AFMUG] 8 mile link

Portable spectrum analyzers only capable of up to around 1600 MHz are also pretty cheap from Chinese sources now, if you want something that is not a radio but a general purpose unit you can attach to your own selection of yagis and dipoles. Would recommend something like this for people doing a

[AFMUG] Mimosa B24 real world thoughts?

Hey all, Has anyone deployed these guys yet? If so, what do you think? I am needing a smaller form factor like this for a particular site and these fit the bill nicely. And the 50% cost reduction over ubnt af24 is sweet too. Thanks -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office

[AFMUG] Bad surge card symptoms between MT and Rocket

Ultimately I'm wondering if a line replacement is pointless or a good idea. We had a Rocket that just all of a sudden would negotiate at 10 meg (instead of 100). It passed a few kbps but nothing really. Should be passing 50+ Meg. I go to the site and try 100 full static on both sides. No

[AFMUG] Wooden utility poles - when are they no good?

So, we have a small repeater site on private land, pole goes about 25' above ground. I'm a bit leery of its lifespan, it was old looking when we acquired the site, and that was 10 years ago. Its got some severe checking the whole way up, the longest being about 6' and the deepest being 5.5"

[AFMUG] Spectrum Analyser

Anyone know of an affordable spectrum analyser that covers ~ 0.9-6hz or better?

[AFMUG] RV park network design

We were approached by a current subscriber who is building an RV park with around ~100 pads, and he wants us to offer service to his tenants. This isn't the typical situation where we would sell service to the RV park, and they handle distributing it to their customers. He wants to avoid

Re: [AFMUG] Multiple cable wall pass-through

I heard Tenamite works well in these situations LOL kidding dont use that stuff On 05/25/2018 10:16 PM, Steve Jones wrote: you want six cables in one hole or 6 holes? 1/2 inch glands is what i use on single cables, available at any hardware store, they have like 3/4" thread, so the lock nut

Re: [AFMUG] SOHO router hack

Yep +1google I have been seeing this for a while so its standard procedure to do internal ACL allow only along with all user levels protected and change the remote web port which is dropped at the edges fo sho. On 05/25/2018 10:12 PM, Steve Jones wrote: or use a drop all input rule with ACL,

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] SOHO router hack

Thanks Josh AFMUG apparently is not… From: mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org>> on behalf of Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> Reply-To: "memb...@wispa.org" mailto:memb...@wispa.org>> Date: Monday, May 28, 2018 at 9:53 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Multiple cable wall pass-through

Six cables through one hole - don't want any more holes than necessary in the water tower. I figure it will be easier to drill the one larger hole, too. I had not thought about using a bulkhead connector. At this point, that seems like the best solution. On 5/25/2018 11:16 PM, Steve Jones

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] SOHO router hack

Working Gino Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 9:47 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: > Test > > From: on behalf of Sean Heskett < > af...@zirkel.us> > Reply-To: "memb...@wispa.org" > Date: Friday, May 25, 2018

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] SOHO router hack

Test From: mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org>> on behalf of Sean Heskett mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> Reply-To: "memb...@wispa.org" mailto:memb...@wispa.org>> Date: Friday, May 25, 2018 at 7:19 PM To: WISPA General List mailto:wirel...@wispa.org>>,

[AFMUG] Epmp vs 450 - DFS events

Anyone noticed that apparently the Epmp radios are less prone to DFS events? Im assuming most are false caused by RF interference, but I see way less events on Epmp than on 450… Will have to do a side by side study. Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo,

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a new Truck/field Laptop

Ours died in the first month (3 of them) We are looking for a better more rigged device Mitch On 5/25/2018 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: We sent a couple in and got them replaced.  Blue one works just fine but the red one needs a zip tie for the cat5 (again). Josh Luthman Office:

Re: [AFMUG] Multiple cable wall pass-through

Plasma or acetylene. From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 9:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multiple cable wall pass-through you want six cables in one hole or 6 holes? 1/2 inch glands is what i use on single cables, available at any hardware store, they have like 3/4"

Re: [AFMUG] N-connector Patch

Make your own. On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 5:47 PM Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: > Agreed, but the way their warehouse fees work it’s best to order them in > quantity or with other gear. > > Jeff Broadwick > CTIconnect > 312-205-2519 Office > 574-220-7826 Cell > jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > > On May