Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B24 real world thoughts?

[Adair Winter]

Unless you live in a very dry are I think 2 miles is pushing it. In rane
zone E (yes I know) we don't expect any sort of reliability past 1-1.5
miles.

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 8:04 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Range for Mimosa is 2 miles?  Small footprint, lower price...I see it has
> place in downtown or campus application... another tool for us..
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2018, 6:59 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> The AF is much larger and thus  has much more gain.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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>>
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>> --
>> *From: *"Josh Baird" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, May 30, 2018 6:30:31 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B24 real world thoughts?
>>
>> What makes it not a replacement for the AF24?
>>
>> On May 30, 2018, at 7:14 PM, Gino A. Villarini  wrote:
>>
>> We have several links installed, so far so good… not really a af24
>> replacement, but… works for the application
>>
>> From: Af  on behalf of Sam Lambie <
>> samtaos...@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Date: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 at 2:29 PM
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Mimosa B24 real world thoughts?
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Has anyone deployed these guys yet? If so, what do you think?
>> I am needing a smaller form factor like this for a particular site and
>> these fit the bill nicely. And the 50% cost reduction over ubnt af24 is
>> sweet too.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B24 real world thoughts?

[Adair Winter]

af24 is also full duplex, if that matters to you.

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 7:59 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> The AF is much larger and thus  has much more gain.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Josh Baird" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, May 30, 2018 6:30:31 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B24 real world thoughts?
>
> What makes it not a replacement for the AF24?
>
> On May 30, 2018, at 7:14 PM, Gino A. Villarini  wrote:
>
> We have several links installed, so far so good… not really a af24
> replacement, but… works for the application
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Sam Lambie <
> samtaos...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 at 2:29 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Mimosa B24 real world thoughts?
>
> Hey all,
>
> Has anyone deployed these guys yet? If so, what do you think?
> I am needing a smaller form factor like this for a particular site and
> these fit the bill nicely. And the 50% cost reduction over ubnt af24 is
> sweet too.
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> 
>
>
>

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C: 806.231.7180
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Re: [AFMUG] 24Ghz distance

[Adair Winter]

We don't plan on 24Ghz being reliable much past 1 mile here. If we use it
further than that it's because it's a back up or we have a back up for
it.those that say you can use it in the 3-6 mile range reliably either live
in the desert or don't know what they are talking about :)

On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 8:37 PM Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The ITU charts give a good bit of information - depending on what your
> uptime rrquiments are, 24ghz is likely 2-3 miles.
> On May 13, 2018 8:20 PM, "Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silo.ca> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> It’s been a while since I’ve posted.  Wondering who has used the Mimosa
>> 24Ghz product in a heavy rain zone.  What is your max distance? I really
>> wish Cambium had a 24Ghz option!
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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Re: [AFMUG] OSPF Question

[Adair Winter]

What are your path costs?

On Sun, May 13, 2018, 4:15 PM Matt Hoppes 
wrote:

> Only one - the Long one.
>
> The things connected to A take the direct path but the default is not
> coming through for some reason.
>
> On May 13, 2018, at 17:12, George Skorup  wrote:
>
> How many default routes show up in the LSA table?
>
> On 5/13/2018 3:51 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>
> OSPF question:
>
>
> A—-B—-C
>
> And
>
> A——C
>
>
> A is the Internet peering router.
>
>
> C should end up with two default routes in it correct?
>
>
> One through B and one directly to C?
>
>
> What’s odd is everything on A populated on Cs route table as direct routes
> - except for the default route.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Alignment tips for AF11Fx

[Adair Winter]

4.0.3. have a few on beta

On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 11:52 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> What firmware is everyone using
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Thu, Apr 26, 2018, 6:39 AM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Double checked configuration, double checked duplexorsgoing make sure
>> all antennas are level and plumb myself but don't know what else to try.
>> Might change master slave settings since only master transmits and try to
>> realign again this morning.  I am frustrated because it was easier to align
>> a 23 mile link than these.   Using 10mhz channels to align...maybe should
>> use the FCC assigned ones and see what happens frustrated in Artesia...
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Apr 25, 2018 6:29 PM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Nothing at all on the other side, or just weak? If it's not showing
>> anything at all, it must not actually be linking, in which case it could be
>> something configured wrong... like maybe a type in the key, or one of the
>> frequencies is entered wrong.
>>
>> If all the config matches, the first thing I'd check would be the
>> duplexor... but it sounds like you're already checking that.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 6:44 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> so we got a -53dBm  on one end and nothing on the other end?  aligned
>>> and realignedhaving the other side check duplexor is 4 and 2 on their
>>> side because its 2 and 4 on my side
>>> i downloaded the manual...guess I will have to read it... this is a 9.3
>>> mile linkI have aligned 11GHz up to 23 miles but with voltmeter on 110
>>> ft tower was easier.
>>> Help Mr. wizard
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 8:55 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh yeah sorry.  Mimosa has that feature and the OP was about the UBNT
>>>> radio.
>>>>
>>>> My bad
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 6:24 PM Adair Winter <
>>>> ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Exactly.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 8:22 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Umm... No.
>>>>>> That's the Mimosa B11 that has that feature, as well as the newer
>>>>>> Ubuntu 5ghz AC radios, but as far as I know, the af11 has nothing of the
>>>>>> sort.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 8:09 PM Adair Winter <
>>>>>> ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> They do? That's news to me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 6:50 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The units have a 2.4ghz Wi-Fi convection for configuring and aiming.
>>>>>>>> You’ll probably want to turn it off when you are done.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Sean
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 1:08 PM Jaime Solorza <
>>>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So no voltmeter alignment option on AirFiber 11FX?   That's how I
>>>>>>>>> align Dragonwave, Siklu and Bridgewave. ...going to have to set up 
>>>>>>>>> WiFi
>>>>>>>>> hotspots at two locations and use tablet on two towers to align
>>>>>>>>> antennasno other equipment there presently
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 1:37 PM Jaime Solorza <
>>>>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We reserved bobcat with 2 ft. scoop and
>>>>>>>>>> arranged for cement trucks to pour concrete in tower base pits
>>>>>>>>>> week before we went to Artesia for last Mobday.  Ended with this and 
>>>>>>>>>> cement
>>>>>>>>>> mixer since no trucks available!!! So instead of two tower base 
>>>>>>>>>> erections
>>>>>>>>>> on Monday, we did second one on Tuesday!!!
>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 11:37 AM Jaime Solorza <
>>>>>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Blew my hair off along with hard hat.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 11:31 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Good for both of you! I've been on towers when the wind gets
>>>>>>>>>>>> too high,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and it is more dangerous than you tend to think. Everything,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I mean
>>>>>>>>>>>> everything, gets more difficult.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/22/2018 9:49 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Ok...I will do that when we go back...winds will be up to
>>>>>>>>>>>> 20mph all
>>>>>>>>>>>> > week...at 25 they get us off the roof and my Comtrain
>>>>>>>>>>>> certified
>>>>>>>>>>>> > assistant refused to let me climb
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Jaime Solorza
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>


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Re: [AFMUG] OT Ham radio GoBox build

[Adair Winter]

FT-991a

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 1:48 PM  wrote:

> I wish I had a nice HF rig...
>
> *From:* Ben Royer
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 25, 2018 12:13 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Ham radio GoBox build
>
> That’s BAD-A fellow HAM myself N9RYR
>
> Good job and 73
>
> Thank you,
> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
> Royell Communications, Inc.
> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
>
> *From:* Jon Lee
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 25, 2018 11:46 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Ham radio GoBox build
>
> Hey guys just wanted to share a fun project I finished up yesterday. I
> volunteer with ARES RACES in my county here in AZ. Fire season is here and
> we are already under a burn ban. My last build was a bit bulky so I wanted
> to trim down the size a bit. The main purpose of the build is a crossband
> repeater. http://imgur.com/gallery/n67MNYS
>

Re: [AFMUG] Alignment tips for AF11Fx

[Adair Winter]

Exactly.

On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 8:22 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Umm... No.
> That's the Mimosa B11 that has that feature, as well as the newer Ubuntu
> 5ghz AC radios, but as far as I know, the af11 has nothing of the sort.
>
> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 8:09 PM Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
> wrote:
>
>> They do? That's news to me.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 6:50 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>
>>> The units have a 2.4ghz Wi-Fi convection for configuring and aiming.
>>> You’ll probably want to turn it off when you are done.
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 1:08 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So no voltmeter alignment option on AirFiber 11FX?   That's how I align
>>>> Dragonwave, Siklu and Bridgewave. ...going to have to set up WiFi hotspots
>>>> at two locations and use tablet on two towers to align antennasno other
>>>> equipment there presently
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 1:37 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We reserved bobcat with 2 ft. scoop and
>>>>> arranged for cement trucks to pour concrete in tower base pits week
>>>>> before we went to Artesia for last Mobday.  Ended with this and cement
>>>>> mixer since no trucks available!!! So instead of two tower base erections
>>>>> on Monday, we did second one on Tuesday!!!
>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 11:37 AM Jaime Solorza <
>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Blew my hair off along with hard hat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 11:31 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good for both of you! I've been on towers when the wind gets too
>>>>>>> high,
>>>>>>> and it is more dangerous than you tend to think. Everything, and I
>>>>>>> mean
>>>>>>> everything, gets more difficult.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/22/2018 9:49 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>>>>> > Ok...I will do that when we go back...winds will be up to 20mph
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> > week...at 25 they get us off the roof and my Comtrain certified
>>>>>>> > assistant refused to let me climb
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Jaime Solorza
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Alignment tips for AF11Fx

[Adair Winter]

They do? That's news to me.

On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 6:50 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> The units have a 2.4ghz Wi-Fi convection for configuring and aiming.
> You’ll probably want to turn it off when you are done.
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 1:08 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> So no voltmeter alignment option on AirFiber 11FX?   That's how I align
>> Dragonwave, Siklu and Bridgewave. ...going to have to set up WiFi hotspots
>> at two locations and use tablet on two towers to align antennasno other
>> equipment there presently
>>
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 1:37 PM Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We reserved bobcat with 2 ft. scoop and
>>> arranged for cement trucks to pour concrete in tower base pits week
>>> before we went to Artesia for last Mobday.  Ended with this and cement
>>> mixer since no trucks available!!! So instead of two tower base erections
>>> on Monday, we did second one on Tuesday!!!
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 11:37 AM Jaime Solorza 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Blew my hair off along with hard hat.

 Jaime Solorza

 On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 11:31 AM Bill Prince  wrote:

> Good for both of you! I've been on towers when the wind gets too high,
> and it is more dangerous than you tend to think. Everything, and I
> mean
> everything, gets more difficult.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 4/22/2018 9:49 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
> > Ok...I will do that when we go back...winds will be up to 20mph all
> > week...at 25 they get us off the roof and my Comtrain certified
> > assistant refused to let me climb
> >
> > Jaime Solorza
>

Re: [AFMUG] Alignment tips for AF11Fx

[Adair Winter]

no. just turns off ATPC. A smart phone VPN'd in to the network or RDP'd
into a computer that can access the radio makes alignment easy. only thing
easier is if you have a wireless AP on site.


On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 3:57 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> So after turning off automatic power does it go into alignment mode?
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 2:28 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Nope. No voltmeter thingy. We used the alignment web page.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 4/22/2018 1:08 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> So no voltmeter alignment option on AirFiber 11FX?   That's how I align
>> Dragonwave, Siklu and Bridgewave. ...going to have to set up WiFi hotspots
>> at two locations and use tablet on two towers to align antennasno other
>> equipment there presently
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 1:37 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We reserved bobcat with 2 ft. scoop and
>>> arranged for cement trucks to pour concrete in tower base pits week
>>> before we went to Artesia for last Mobday.  Ended with this and cement
>>> mixer since no trucks available!!! So instead of two tower base erections
>>> on Monday, we did second one on Tuesday!!!
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 11:37 AM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Blew my hair off along with hard hat.
>>>>
>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 11:31 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good for both of you! I've been on towers when the wind gets too high,
>>>>> and it is more dangerous than you tend to think. Everything, and I
>>>>> mean
>>>>> everything, gets more difficult.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/22/2018 9:49 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>>> > Ok...I will do that when we go back...winds will be up to 20mph all
>>>>> > week...at 25 they get us off the roof and my Comtrain certified
>>>>> > assistant refused to let me climb
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Jaime Solorza
>>>>>
>>>>
>>


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VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Alignment tips for AF11Fx

[Adair Winter]

Ignore the LED's on the radio, use phone or laptop to align.
Be sure to turn off all of the "auto" setting. So, automatic power backoff
and receive target power. align just like any other link. the actual and
ideal signals will tell you if you have done enough. we usually beat the
ideal by a little bit depending on the antennas.


On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 11:29 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello Kool Kats... Kopacetic...yeah..
> We installed 4 PTP 11GHz AirFibers last week but winds kept us from
> aligning. One link came up with just installers leaving dishes in general
> direction at 4 miles.
> I have not read the manual on these...I did notice an alignment tool in
> menu.  How does it work? It the optimal alignment having both ends at same
> or really close dB levels? the LEDs all came up on link that linked up but
> one side was -39 and other -91dBm...so I am not sure that it good
> way....ideas? Thanks
>
> Jaime Solorza
>



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Re: [AFMUG] Pricing and High Speed Services

[Adair Winter]

you might get a few who will, but that hasn't really been our experience

On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 2:50 PM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> No. We continue to take on customers. Comcast offers a 200 which we all
> agree most people aren’t using. Really it’s marketing more than people need
> it.
>
> But increasing speed is lowering price.
>
> 10 meg for $50
> 20 meg for $70
> Now
>
>
> So I offer 25 for $50 and 50 for $70. Now my 20meg customers downgrade to
> the $50 plan.
>
> On Apr 7, 2018, at 15:44, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
> wrote:
>
> Increase speed, do not lower price.
> Are you up against competition that is driving you to need to offer speeds
> that fast? If not, make a good comfortable upgrade for the customer and
> leave room to offer more later
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 2:23 PM, Matt Hoppes <mattlists@
> rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> So I'm looking at deploying 60GHz equipment, and we currently have a very
>> small fiber network. With the 60GHz, fiber, and even 5GHz nanopops I can
>> offer huge amounts of bandwidth to end users but I have two questions:
>>
>> * My wholesale bandwidth costs are dirt cheap (that's not a problem just
>> a statement) so picking up the bandwidth is not an issue.
>>
>> * Do end users actually care if I offer them a 200-300-400Megabit plan?
>>
>> * I can offer extremely cheap Internet - like 200 Megabits for $100, or
>> maybe even $75 -- I haven't run a full business case yet. But how do I
>> avoid cannibalizing my existing income?
>> "Oh! You have 200 Megabits for $75? Well then I'd like to downgrade from
>> your $90 for 35 Megabit plan"
>>
>> * Do I throw on some huge data limit? What do you do if an end-user
>> actually decided to use 200megabits 24x7? Sure it's fine if it's temporal
>> usage, but it can't be a 24 x7. Maybe throttle to half the speed if X usage?
>>
>> Still very much in the exploratory stage of all of this -- but working on
>> long term business plans.
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Adair Winter
> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
> C: 806.231.7180
> http://www.amarillowireless.net
> <http://www.amarillowireless.net>
>
>
>


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Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Pricing and High Speed Services

[Adair Winter]

Increase speed, do not lower price.
Are you up against competition that is driving you to need to offer speeds
that fast? If not, make a good comfortable upgrade for the customer and
leave room to offer more later


On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 2:23 PM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> So I'm looking at deploying 60GHz equipment, and we currently have a very
> small fiber network. With the 60GHz, fiber, and even 5GHz nanopops I can
> offer huge amounts of bandwidth to end users but I have two questions:
>
> * My wholesale bandwidth costs are dirt cheap (that's not a problem just a
> statement) so picking up the bandwidth is not an issue.
>
> * Do end users actually care if I offer them a 200-300-400Megabit plan?
>
> * I can offer extremely cheap Internet - like 200 Megabits for $100, or
> maybe even $75 -- I haven't run a full business case yet. But how do I
> avoid cannibalizing my existing income?
> "Oh! You have 200 Megabits for $75? Well then I'd like to downgrade from
> your $90 for 35 Megabit plan"
>
> * Do I throw on some huge data limit? What do you do if an end-user
> actually decided to use 200megabits 24x7? Sure it's fine if it's temporal
> usage, but it can't be a 24 x7. Maybe throttle to half the speed if X usage?
>
> Still very much in the exploratory stage of all of this -- but working on
> long term business plans.
>



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Adair Winter
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Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] List alternative?

[Adair Winter]

You hate everything.

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 4:50 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

> I hate slack
>
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 4:06 PM Justin Wilson  wrote:
>
>> Here is the problem that comes around every so often.
>>
>>
>> 1.Slack is the wild Wild West.  Get more than a few folks in a channel
>> and the conversation gets crazy.  It’s a conversation not a thread. Imagine
>> some of the threads that have gone off the rails in realtime.
>> 2.Message boards are good but the are not pushed to you like e-mail
>> 3.Facebook is pushed to you, but not everyone has facebook or pays
>> attention to it.
>>
>> As much as people keep wanting e-mail to die, which I don’t understand,
>> it’s not going away anytime soon.
>>
>> Justin Wilson
>> j...@mtin.net
>>
>> www.mtin.net
>> www.midwest-ix.com
>>
>> On Mar 25, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Craig House 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone thought about using something like slack as an alternative to the
>> email list.  Maybe there is a good reason for the email format but it seems
>> like it would allow for categories for topics so members could choose if
>> they want to be in on the topic or not.  Such as fiber topics. Cambium
>> topics.  Mimosa ubnt and sync.  Lots of options to make it more topic
>> specific to what each list member is interested in.  I know my attention
>> span sometimes gets lost on things that don’t involve my work.  Maybe slack
>> isn’t the beat choice but there is surely something like that to fit the
>> group needs
>> Just a thought
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] time check

[Adair Winter]

Only took 6 hours to rx

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 4:46 PM  wrote:

> Sent Sun, 3/25/2018 9:08 MDT
>

Re: [AFMUG] Buying IPv4

[Adair Winter]

ipv4auctions.com

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 6:44 AM Carl Peterson 
wrote:

>
> Anyone have a good place to buy IPv4?  Looking for a /22 or /21.
>

Re: [AFMUG] IP / ethernet / 115Vac PDUs?

[Adair Winter]

Synaccess netbooter

On Sat, Mar 17, 2018, 12:56 AM justsumname .  wrote:

> This sorta thing:   https://dlidirect.com/products/new-pro-switch
>
> What you guys using these days?I don't need wifi or more than 2
> outlets, just a thingy to 'remotely' power-cycle a stubborn device via
> network...   I thunked MikroTik or Ubiquity would have something, but
> didn't see it on their websites.
>
> Thanks.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[Adair Winter]

Weren't you complaining about serverplus a few months ago also?

On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 7:06 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> DTs, like railroad tracks are great when theyre followed, thats very true.
> Very true.
>
>
> On Mar 10, 2018 12:25 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> I would add that Layne’s service is only as good as the decision tree that
> you provide to him.  The more detailed DT, the better the service will be.
>
> *From:* Layne Sisk
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus
>
>
> I would like to share some solid stats with the group.  Please see those
> below.  The comment about a decline is hard to address without looking at
> stats.  Kind of like the user that calls you and vaguely  says “My internet
> seems slow” when you have stats that show they are getting more than they
> are paying for.  We have hired a number of new people recently because we
> have grown and have added a new office but as Justin said this is a slow
> time of the year so we also took advantage of this time to get rid of some
> of our weaker performers.  Here are the company wide stats for the past
> week with some comments about them, I would stack these up against any call
> center in the world.  Sorry if I come on strong, but as you all know this
> is my baby and I care a lot about it just like you do about your networks.
> I know we are not perfect, out of 6000 calls I am sure we made a mistake or
> two and I am happy to address any individual issue directly, but I am
> pretty proud of what we do.
>
>
>
>
>
> *OFFICE STATS*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *SP*
>
> *GOAL*
>
> *Comment*
>
> *AVERAGE TALK TIME*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 0:11:05
>
> 0:10:00
>
> Down from over 13 min 2 months ago
>
> *  TOTAL TALK TIME VS SCHEDULED*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 69.94%
>
> 80%
>
> This is agent utilization
>
> *SURVEY SCORE*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 91.66%
>
> 95%
>
> 91.66% of callers would recommend the service That  is a number any
> company would kill for
>
> *SURVEY TAKEN*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 20.57%
>
> 20%
>
> A full 20% of callers responded to our survey, that number is unheard of
>
> *TECH ESCALATION*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 39.31%
>
> 20%
>
> Higher escalation percentage this week because of the storms and
> significant network outages
>
> *ESCALATION APPROVAL TIME*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 0:11:47
>
> 0:10:00
>
> Down from over 30 min 4 months ago
>
> *QA SCORE*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 92.05%
>
> 95%
>
> Happy to share our QA form with anyone who would like to see it
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *COMPANY STATS*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *SP*
>
> *GOAL*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *CALL WAIT TIME*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 0:01:52
>
> 2:00
>
> Less than 2 min wait time even though our SLA is less than 3
>
> *BILLABLE CALLS*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 6112
>
> 10,000
>
> Reflection of the slow season
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *ABANDONED TIME*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 0.37
>
> 2:00
>
> Outage recordings cause people to hang up once they hear the recording
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *CALLS TAKEN PER HOUR*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 4.10
>
> 5.45
>
> This is calls answered per worked hour
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Layne Sisk
>
> ServerPlus
>
> 801.426.8283, ext 102 <801.426.8283%2C%20ext%20102>
>
> [image: New logo xl] <http://www.serverplus.com/>
>
> [image: http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png]
>
> [image: http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]
> <https://www.facebook.com/ServerPlus365/>
>
> [image: http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png]
> <https://twitter.com/RealServerPlus>
>
> [image: Utah 100]   [image: fast50-01][image: Inc 5000]
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Friday, March 09, 2018 10:30 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Serverplus
>
>
>
> Has anyone noted a consistent decline in quality with these guys, and a
> large number of different tech names in their tickets?
>
> Its almost looking like they outsourced their outsourcing.
>
>
>


-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor Enclosure

[Adair Winter]

https://amprod.us/products/outdoor-telecom-enclosures/minifort/

On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 9:05 AM, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
wrote:

> amprod.us
> Look at their mini fort enclosure. We love them and use the crap out of
> them.
>
> On Mar 9, 2018 4:53 PM, "Matt" <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Looking for outdoor enclosure that will hold a Packetflux RackInjector
>> and Mikrotik rack mount 24 port CRS.  Something small enough I can
>> pole mount.  Anyone know of anything?
>>
>


-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor Enclosure

[Adair Winter]

amprod.us
Look at their mini fort enclosure. We love them and use the crap out of
them.

On Mar 9, 2018 4:53 PM, "Matt"  wrote:

> Looking for outdoor enclosure that will hold a Packetflux RackInjector
> and Mikrotik rack mount 24 port CRS.  Something small enough I can
> pole mount.  Anyone know of anything?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Employee Birthdays

[Adair Winter]

we buy a cake a month and celebrate who ever's birthday is inside that
month.

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 6:10 PM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Just curious what any of you might do for employees birthdays for the
> employee?
>



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Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Aircube

[Adair Winter]

We have some we are playing with

On Mar 8, 2018 8:44 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
wrote:

>
> You can tweak it with umns
>
> Can you change settings using tr069  or snmp?
>
> Are they any good?
>
> Anyone playing with them?
>
> Sent from my smartphone
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 39ghz

[Adair Winter]

My thought was, is it possible to use it in any other freq range? Down to
23Ghz maybe?

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 5:31 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We participated in a program with Straight Path where we got a 39ghz
> Ceragon IP20.  I got a letter today that Verizon has purchased Straight
> Path and intends to use the 39ghz band from that acquisition to deploy 5G
> wireless, and they request we cease transmission by September 4th 2018.
>
> That's all fine and good, but it means I have an uncapped Ceragon IP20
> that won't be legal to operate anymore.  I'm trying to figure if there's
> anything I can do with it.  My first thought is maybe I can sell it
> overseas.  Is there a non-FCC market where 39ghz is used?
>
> -Adam
>
>


-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Billing Portal

[Adair Winter]

And yet you still pay more than some other systems per user per month.

On Feb 27, 2018 1:12 PM, "Sterling Jacobson"  wrote:

> Again, I'm completely flummoxed by Sonar.
>
> Apparently their customer portal isn't really a part of their system.
>
> Any Sonar customer has to purchase and maintain their own linux system to
> host the web/portal system.
> Then that ties into their main system BUT isn't immediately synched up
> with their main system on any changes.
>
> I've had several times where I've been on the phone with customers and
> made a billing change in Sonar and the customer can't see it in the portal
> until an unspecified amount of time goes by and it updates magically.
>
> NOW my portal is completely out of the blue not responding to web requests
> and appears offline to my customers, for over a day now.
>
> Sonar can't figure it out and want me to nuke it and start over, which if
> I remember, cost me a few hours of time to arrange DNS, SSH access, IPv4/6
> changes, firewall, SSL, logo placement etc beyond their initial load.
>
> I blame myself for not having set up incremental backups of it.
> I'll definitely fix that this time.
>
> But man it would have been so much more simpler if Sonar actually had
> themselves a hosted client page I could slap my logo on and change a few
> CSS color marks.
>
> What a PITA.
>

Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV

[Adair Winter]

That really isn't real choice's fault.
As an ISP you should probably already have a landing point in a data center
somewhere.

On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Sure. But it doesn’t matter what data center you’re in. You’re not getting
> a Gigabit connection back to your NOC for $100/month.
>
> On Feb 25, 2018, at 14:24, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
> wrote:
>
> Matt,
> It's not rocket science, move in to a real data center that has decent
> connectivity and you can too can get access to these things.
>
> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Matt Hoppes <mattlists@
> rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>>   How are people getting direct fiber feeds for $100/month?
>>
>> Clearly I need to stop by your booth and see what has changed since we
>> last talked.
>>
>> On Feb 25, 2018, at 13:43, Layne Sisk <la...@serverplus.com> wrote:
>>
>> Chuck,
>>   We should talk.  We have so many more connection points now it is
>> pretty easy and cheap to connect to us.  Most connections now are between
>> $100 and $600.
>>
>> -Layne
>> Sent from my iPhone, so please excuse any misspelled words or
>> embarrassing auto-corrects!
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2018, at 12:29 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>> Layne, what is the real world chance of anyone discovering that you are
>> transporting to one of use via VPN?
>>
>> I think the chance is low.
>> Then if discovered, what is the chance that the programmers will care?
>>
>> When I was working with Dallas, I had quite a few of them agreeing to the
>> VPN method.
>>
>> How about this,  you sell to me, I take delivery in a data center very
>> close to you.
>>
>> Then what I do to transport to the edge server is my business...
>> right?
>>
>> *From:* Layne Sisk
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2018 10:19 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
>>
>>
>> When they do you won’t be able to resell it, they will just sell it to
>> your customers and you won’t make anything.
>>
>>
>>
>> Layne Sisk
>>
>> ServerPlus
>>
>> 801.426.8283, ext 102
>>
>>  <http://www.serverplus.com/>
>>
>> [image: http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png]
>>
>> [image: http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ServerPlus365/>
>>
>> [image: http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png]
>> <https://twitter.com/RealServerPlus>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2018 6:40 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
>>
>>
>>
>> That's how technology is.
>>
>> Until DirecTV, Google, Sony, etc. get full line-ups OTT, you're not going
>> to find something you can sell that's going to have a full line-up.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"Clint Wiley" <cl...@hagerstownfiber.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Friday, February 23, 2018 6:01:32 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
>>
>> That’s actually a good point. This is a rapidly moving area. I don’t want
>> to choose the wrong technology/solution.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> _
>> Clint Wiley
>> Hagerstown Fiber Internet
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 6:23 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>> The statement of the week...
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Compu

Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV

[Adair Winter]

;
>
> On Feb 23, 2018, at 17:46, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> I think those that go over the public Internet don't have nearly the same
> lineup.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
>
> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, February 23, 2018 4:16:50 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
>
> Well, the are all allowing all the other streamers to deliver it via the
> public internet, why not RCTV?
>
> Does not seem fair to discriminate against the smaller companies like this.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Clint Wiley
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 3:12 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
>
> I agree that a VPN makes plenty of sense. I get why they do it but it adds
> an expense that may take me a good bit of time to recover.
>
> Thanks,
> _
>
> Clint Wiley
> Hagerstown Fiber Internet
>
> > On Feb 23, 2018, at 4:56 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> >
> > That is not by choice.  The content providers all have a different
> > tolerance as to how their product is piped around.  RealChoice could
> drop
> > it and probably ship the product over the public internet and never get
> > caught, however they risk losing channels if they ever get caught.
> >
> > Not sure what their current deal is, when I was working with them I was
> > trying to get the programmers to allow content via VPN or VLAN over VPN
> > (silly, right)  over the public internet.  Some of them were OK with it.
> >
> > -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes
> > Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:46 PM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
> >
> > RealChoice would be a great option if they would drop their private line
> > requirement.
> >
> >> On Feb 23, 2018, at 15:39, Clint Wiley <cl...@hagerstownfiber.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I wanted to see if any of you are offering IPTV to your customers. If
> so,
> >> are any of you using either RodeoTV or RealChoice TV as the wholesale
> >> provider? Can any of you provide feedback, thoughts, experiences, etc.
> on
> >> either provider?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> _
> >> Clint Wiley
> >> Hagerstown Fiber Internet
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

[AFMUG] (no subject)

[Adair Winter]

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

[Adair Winter]

AF24 is only going to be 5 9's reliable to about 1-2 miles depending on
your rain zone.
for 2-4 miles you could use 23Ghz (way more EIRP than 24Ghz)
4-8 miles 18Ghz
8-20 miles 11 Ghz
and anything longer than that 6Ghz. unless you can mount really big dishes
for 11.


On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 5:05 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
wrote:

> For 6-10 miles 24 ghz its way out of the question.  Stick to 11 ghz.
>
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of David Coudron <
> david.coud...@advantenon.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Date: Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 6:57 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz
>
> I know this topic has come up before, but thought I would throw it out
> again to hear additional thoughts as products continue to evolve.   We have
> been doing primarily 5 GHz backhaul using Mimosa products for the last
> couple of years.   Their frequency reuse has really helped us, but we are
> starting to see more locations that have lots of noise.   We’d like to make
> the jump to higher frequencies and are looking at 11 GHz and 24 GHz for
> that.   The links we need are fairly short, 6-10 miles max, which pushes
> the limits of the 24 GHz solutions, but with a very clean line of site we
> think we are in range for the links we are looking at as far as the design
> tools tell us.   For 11 GHz, we would likely stay with the Mimosa product
> line, we know it pretty well and have all the management tools in place for
> it.   For 24 GHz we’d likely go with the Ubiquiti AF 24 or AF 24 HD.   We
> have worked with Ubiquiti stuff here and there, and just don’t have much
> familiarity with any other options outside of AirFiber.  Here is where we
> see the Pros and Cons of the two options:
>
>
>
> Mimosa 11 GHz Pros:
>
>1. Licensed, should be clean spectrum for the full term of the license
>and require less babysitting for interference
>2. Should support longer links, but that isn’t a big consideration for
>us as it looks like everything we will need is under the limits of the HD
>for sure and likely the AF 24 as well
>3. Little less susceptible to rain fade
>
>
>
> Cons:
>
>1. Have to mess around with the license and there is a cost associated
>with it
>2. Have to buy the dish separately, and know which to use before
>applying for the license
>3. Not quite as much throughput (when compared to the AF 24 HD)
>4. More expensive that the AF 24 (but likely a little less than the HD)
>
>
>
>
>
> Ubiquiti AF 24 Pros:
>
>1. All in one unit, easy to figure out what to have on hand for all
>links
>2. No messing around with licenses, making it much quicker to deploy
>3. Higher throughput on the HD
>
>
>
> Cons:
>
>1. Unlicensed.  Might fight other noise out there, and even quiet
>links now might have noise later
>2. Not as familiar with this tool set as we are with Mimosa, although
>this isn’t a big consideration as we have worked with lots of Ubiquiti
>products
>3. Cost of HD is pretty high for an unlicensed link
>
>
>
> Here are some questions we are hoping for help with:
>
>1. How much room in the unlicensed band is there to move channels if
>you see other noise out there?   We have been looking but are finding it
>tough to figure out if we run wide channels, and see noise, will we be able
>to move to other channels.
>2. Is it reasonable to think you can push 1.2 aggregate IP traffic
>across any of the three options B11, AF24 or AF24HD?   Seems like a well
>planned link with great line of site at 6 miles should be able to, but
>looking for some real world experience.
>3. Any oddball items we should take into consideration other than the
>ones already mentioned here? Or are we missing some obvious questions?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> David Coudron
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>


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Re: [AFMUG] BGP Timers

[Adair Winter]

Is this typical in a public peering setup? I mean do providers want to run
BFD towards their customers?

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 9:43 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
wrote:

> BTW... just FYI...
>
> If you are able to have a working bfd option available, that is always the
> best option, it is one of the fastest link drop change detection available,
> regardless of what the protocol timers are set for.
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Adair Winter" <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, January 25, 2018 9:42:11 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] BGP Timers
>
> Thanks for the info.
> Being that our circuit has been stable, I'm not worried about flapping. If
> it does go nuts some day I would just take the peer down until we resolve
> whatever is going on.
> But three minutes feels like a long time to wait for the peer to drop
> while traffic is just slamming in to a dead route.
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Yep, we change it to 10 and 30.  The only issue you can have is if you
>> flap but I have not had that issue as of yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dennis Burgess
>>
>> www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 <(314)%20735-0270> –
>> dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adair Winter
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 25, 2018 1:03 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] BGP Timers
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone ever modify the default bgp keep-alive and hold timers in
>> order to facilitate a faster fail over time when peer drops?
>>
>> Waiting the default three minutes seems like a very long time.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Adair Winter
>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
>> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
>> http://www.amarillowireless.net
>> <http://www.amarillowireless.net>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Adair Winter
> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
> http://www.amarillowireless.net
> <http://www.amarillowireless.net>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [AFMUG] BGP Timers

[Adair Winter]

Thanks for the info.
Being that our circuit has been stable, I'm not worried about flapping. If
it does go nuts some day I would just take the peer down until we resolve
whatever is going on.
But three minutes feels like a long time to wait for the peer to drop while
traffic is just slamming in to a dead route.

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
wrote:

> Yep, we change it to 10 and 30.  The only issue you can have is if you
> flap but I have not had that issue as of yet.
>
>
>
> Dennis Burgess
>
> www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 <(314)%20735-0270> –
> dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adair Winter
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 25, 2018 1:03 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] BGP Timers
>
>
>
> Does anyone ever modify the default bgp keep-alive and hold timers in
> order to facilitate a faster fail over time when peer drops?
>
> Waiting the default three minutes seems like a very long time.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Adair Winter
> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
> http://www.amarillowireless.net
> <http://www.amarillowireless.net>
>
>
>



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[AFMUG] BGP Timers

[Adair Winter]

Does anyone ever modify the default bgp keep-alive and hold timers in order
to facilitate a faster fail over time when peer drops?
Waiting the default three minutes seems like a very long time.

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C: 806.231.7180
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Re: [AFMUG] Exalt firmware

[Adair Winter]

I'll check

On Jan 15, 2018 3:38 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:

> Looking for ExtendAir G2 release 1.2.2. Anybody have it?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Employee clocking out and such...

[Adair Winter]

Our guys clock out when they get back. They don't clock in until they get
to the office or if leaveing straight to a job they can clock in right away.
But if I send the an hour away from  home/the office to do an install. I
feel like it's only fair to pay them to drive home. Now obviously if home
is further than the office, they don't get paid for that time.

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 10:29 PM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
wrote:

> They clock out when they leave their last job. We don't pay for the first
> 30 minutes of their commute to/from their first and last job. So if they go
> to their first job in the morning 45 minutes away, we pay for 15 minutes.
> If their last job is 45 minutes from home, we again only pay for 15 minutes
> of that drive. If it's 20 minutes, they don't clock in until they arrive
> on-site, etc.
>
> You are not obligated to pay for commute times for employees who take
> their vehicle home. The 30 minutes is a reasonable expectation for
> commuting. You wouldn't be able to say 3 hours is reasonable though and try
> to get out of paying them for that long of a drive. This might also be
> different if your guy lives 45 minutes away. Then that is a reasonable
> commuting time that he would do anyway so you don't need to pay him for
> that time.
>
> We do our best to have guys go to their first job right away in the
> morning and keep them out of the office.
>
> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:02 PM, Jon Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
> wrote:
>
>> For employees with company install vehicle, at what point is everyone
>> having them clock out at the end of the day if they are allowed to take it
>> home? When the job is done? Or when they ‘get back’? What about gas usage
>> if they take it home?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>
>>
>
>
> --
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> Minnesota WiFi
> www.mnwifi.com
> 507-634-WiFi
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Re: [AFMUG] AF5X cold weather ethernet problems

[Adair Winter]

Yep, that's the common problem.
to my knowledge UBNT has not changed the jack on the radio.

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 12:04 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> OK, i just got back down from the tower, took up a spare AF5X with me.
> When i got to the top the original radio was powered up and RF was linked
> but data port light not lit. I pushed up on the CAT5 and i could feel the
> connector move in the socket a little deeper and the link light came on.
> Pulled it down a little and link light went back out. I then un-mounted the
> radio from the antenna and repeated this several times and with the
> pushing/pulling on the connector and it would repeatedly lose link light
> when i pulled down on connector. Swapped the radio with a brand new one and
> tried pulling/pushing on connector and this one would not lose the link
> light. I also could tell this radio's ethernet port felt a little more snug
> with less movement on the connector. Did UBNT change the ethernet port at
> some point in production on these radios??? The old radio's MAC
> is: 04:18:D6:E3:56:76
>
> Also i did have a service loop on the ethernet wire at the top so there
> was definitely not excessive pull on the RJ45 connector however i did not
> have a zip tie holding the ethernet tight as it went into the radio.
>
> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 12:51 PM, Mitch Koep <af...@abwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> LOL did that with the very last pair I ever tried but it was -16 with -36
>> wind chill
>>
>> That pair flew off the tower, and still have one pair to get rid of
>>
>> First pair I could never get to connect second pair got connected to
>>
>> a tower 3 miles away to test then it got cold (LOL Minnesota Winter)
>>
>> and the Ethernet failed was so mad I threw them off the tower
>>
>> and it warmed my heart lol
>>
>> Mitch Koep
>>
>> 218-851-8689 cell
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/2/2018 10:02 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone else seen AF5X radios that starting dropping ethernet in cold
>>> weather? We have been having sub zero temps at night past week and i have 2
>>> towers that had an AF5X radio that the ethernet decided to drop out. One
>>> tower cleared itself up on its own after 2 days, another one just started
>>> this morning. Looks like i am going to have to climb to replace a radio and
>>> its freaking -5 degrees out right now.
>>>
>>
>>
>


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Re: [AFMUG] AF5X cold weather ethernet problems

[Adair Winter]

The AF5X have finicky ethernet problems. more then likely the cold problem
has to do with the cable moving or shrinking. ensureing the cable is secure
and tight is the best bet. We coil the cable up and attache it to the back
of the radio

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 10:02 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Has anyone else seen AF5X radios that starting dropping ethernet in cold
> weather? We have been having sub zero temps at night past week and i have 2
> towers that had an AF5X radio that the ethernet decided to drop out. One
> tower cleared itself up on its own after 2 days, another one just started
> this morning. Looks like i am going to have to climb to replace a radio and
> its freaking -5 degrees out right now.
>



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Re: [AFMUG] Sometimes cameras are annoying

[Adair Winter]

yep, nothing attached.

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Event triggered message sent us this from a camera in key location where
> important documents are stored.  Two cameras watch this office but tonight
> the event was comical.
>
> Jaime Solorza
>



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Re: [AFMUG] First time

[Adair Winter]

We had a guy we used to work with. He was semi color blind, he used to tell
people he could feel the colors on the 25/50pr.. ha

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:

> As a colorblind person that cable sounds AWESOME!!!
>
> I’ll never forget when my boss at Lockheed wanted me to punch down a
> 50pair 臘‍♂️
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 3:31 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> I had an occasion this weekend to add a PLC as a controller for the
>> shared resources in the manufacturing facility - i.e. compressor, exhaust
>> system, etc.Everything is set up so that when a machine gets turned on,
>> all of the resources that that machine needs is turned on.   Some safety
>> stuff has been added as well, such as there is now a pressure sensor on the
>> air compressor which should trip if the compressor 'sticks on' as it tends
>> to do when the pressure switch fails, causing all sorts of excitement.
>>
>> It definitely made me long for the automation/controller stuff I did in a
>> previous life - a lot similar to the stuff you're doing.   It also made me
>> long for a few sticks of panduit raceway/duct since things are not nearly
>> as pretty as I would have liked.   Well, that and all of the supplies/tools
>> you need to really make something like this look professional.   As it is,
>> it's more functional than pretty.
>>
>> I did have a surprise though, I bought some multiconductor control cable
>> to run from the PLC to a control/status panel.  Every time I've ever used
>> this in the past, the conductors are all different colors.  This cable was
>> all black wires with the wire numbers written on the wire itself.  Never
>> had seen this style.  After I got over my 'This isn't what I expected'
>> grumpiness, I decided it was probably ok, although it did take a bit of
>> time to find the first few wires.  I'm just glad my close-up vision hasn't
>> failed me yet.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> First time wiring up a Schneider VFD...the terminal block was easy to
>>> work with and took about an hour on each of two I did this morning.
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=3577+Countryside+Road,+Helena,+MT+59602=gmail=g>
>> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian>
>> <http://facebook.com/packetflux>  <http://twitter.com/@packetflux>
>>
>>


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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Failure Rate

[Adair Winter]

Same. We have almost 50 af5x links and have had very little trouble with
the Rf portion that wasn't related to a bad jumper, etc.

On Dec 17, 2017 11:24 AM, "Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]" 
wrote:

> I have about 30 AF5X links. I've had exactly 1 radio die since I started
> using these things when they first came out.
>
> Can you describe your setup a bit better?
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 active, an AT 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Nate Burke 
> Date: 12/17/17 11:19 AM (GMT-06:00)
> To: Animal Farm 
> Subject: [AFMUG] AF5x Failure Rate
>
> I only have 3 AF5X links, But I've replaced 3 of the 6 radio units so
> far.  They all have had RF problems where the link drops, but Ethernet
> and MGMT is just fine.  I just had another radio go bad this weekend.  I
> have a couple Dozen AF5 links in the air, and have had no problems with
> those.  Is the Failure rate on the 5X radio that high, or am I just
> extremely unlucky?
>

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP2000 bug

[Adair Winter]

What causes this to happen?

On Nov 29, 2017 7:16 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> I know this has been discussed here before.  Thought I would cross post
> it.
>
> *From:* christ...@cybernet1.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 29, 2017 4:58 PM
> *To:* memb...@wispa.org
> *Subject:* [WISPA Members] ePMP2000 bug
>
>
> Apparently there is a bug that limits the epmp2000 sector down to 10
> subscribers with no workable solution to get it back to 120.  I don’t know
> if anyone else has run in to this but it sucks.  They are telling me it is
> hardware so I have to replace the AP and RMA the original.  A software
> license lock caused by a hardware problem seems pretty nuts to me.
>
>
>
> Christian Palecek
>
> Chief Operations Officer
>
> Cybernet1 Inc
>
> Hamilton, MT
>
>
>
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>

Re: [AFMUG] Powering an Airfiber 5x

[Adair Winter]

unless they have been sitting on the shelf for two years, It shouldn't be a
problem.

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> That's a definite caveat.
>
> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Only the very early ones cannot be powered with 48VDC.. there is a tool
>> somewhere on UBNT's website that helps you decide if yours is 48VDC capable
>> or not.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Adair Winter <
>> ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, we power all of ours with 48v
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There seems to be some confusion online about whether you can use 48v
>>>> to power up an Airfiber 5x?   I have a tech onsite getting ready to do
>>>> that, but wanted to make sure we don’t make magic smoke come out 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paul McCall, President
>>>>
>>>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>>>
>>>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=658+Old+Dixie+Highway%0D+Vero+Beach,+FL+32962%0D+772=gmail=g>
>>>>
>>>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=658+Old+Dixie+Highway%0D+Vero+Beach,+FL+32962%0D+772=gmail=g>
>>>>
>>>> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>>>>
>>>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>>>
>>>> www.pdmnet.com
>>>>
>>>> www.floridabroadband.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Adair Winter
>>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
>>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
>>> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
>>> http://www.amarillowireless.net
>>> <http://www.amarillowireless.net>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>


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Re: [AFMUG] Powering an Airfiber 5x

[Adair Winter]

Yes, we power all of ours with 48v

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:

> There seems to be some confusion online about whether you can use 48v to
> power up an Airfiber 5x?   I have a tech onsite getting ready to do that,
> but wanted to make sure we don’t make magic smoke come out 
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=658+Old+Dixie+Highway%0D+Vero+Beach,+FL+32962%0D+772=gmail=g>
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=658+Old+Dixie+Highway%0D+Vero+Beach,+FL+32962%0D+772=gmail=g>
>
> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>



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Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitechs

[Adair Winter]

ce they had charged me hundreds of
> dollars to get nowhere.
>
> One of their sales guys made out a personal check to me for some reason,
> claiming his reputation was on the line or something like that.
>
> I think it was a shady play at emotions, but I don’t have many emotions,
> so it didn’t work with me, lol!
>
>
>
> I took whatever little money they could refund me, however they wanted to
> refund and ‘play’ that.
>
> Then they gave me credit which I still have, to use.
>
>
>
> Likely I’ll not be doing BGP stuff with them, but maybe they will do
> something more benign, like standard server work.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *can...@believewireless.net
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 9, 2017 10:01 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitechs
>
>
>
> We used them once and we weren't happy. I wanted to give them a try to see
> how they compared to others.
>
> What I thought was a simple BGP issue that could have been handled with a
> 15-30 minute phone call ended
>
> up taking over two weeks. They "needed" to get our router configs and
> virtualize them in their network. Then
>
> figure out which interfaces were backhaul links, etc.
>
>
>
> They then came up with a crazy network design that, to me, made no sense.
> After them burning a lot of hours
>
> on that, a simple call at the end of that process amounted to just
> creating a single EoIP tunnel to fix the issue.
>
>
>
> So my thought is they want to burn hours whenever they can.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
>
> So, IPArchitechsis there a current consensus on whether they are
> worth investing time with?   We are looking to layer BGP within (or upon)
> our OSPF network to better control traffic between towers, subnets, etc.
>
> IPA talked a good game, but we didn't roll out with them.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Paul
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
> Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 1:47 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitechs
>
> We are always here :)
>
>
> Dennis Burgess - Network Solution Engineer - Consultant MikroTik Certified
> Trainer/Consultant - MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>
> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net Radio Frequency
> Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
> Office: 314-735-0270
> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 12:45 PM
> To: 'af@afmug.com' <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: [AFMUG] IPArchitechs
>
> That company was a bust.
>
> So I'm looking again for a professional team/company that can
> professionally handle my network contracting needs in a reasonable time
> frame.
>
> Dennis, I'll be asking for your help again in the meantime as soon as I
> get refunded from IPArchitechs.
>
>
>



-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitechs

[Adair Winter]

etc. but I am
>> much more cautious about things.  We all have our own way of doing stuff.
>> Some people and I don’t click.  Some do.  I am sure that is the same with
>> any other consultant.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Justin Wilson
>>
>> j...@mtin.net
>>
>>
>>
>> j2sw.com
>>
>> www.mtin.net
>>
>> www.midwest-ix.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2017, at 1:10 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Similar case with me which I kind of already pointed out.
>>
>>
>>
>> They couldn’t figure out a BGP issue and wanted to virtualize and put in
>> a lab and spend hours on top of hours analyzing.
>>
>>
>>
>> I stopped them right there and said no thanks to that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Then I called Dennis and he took a few minutes, found out it likely
>> wasn’t my problem, and worked with my upstream provider to fix it.
>>
>>
>>
>> And it was fixed after some emails back and forth between all of us.
>>
>>
>>
>> I asked IPArchitechs to refund me since they had charged me hundreds of
>> dollars to get nowhere.
>>
>> One of their sales guys made out a personal check to me for some reason,
>> claiming his reputation was on the line or something like that.
>>
>> I think it was a shady play at emotions, but I don’t have many emotions,
>> so it didn’t work with me, lol!
>>
>>
>>
>> I took whatever little money they could refund me, however they wanted to
>> refund and ‘play’ that.
>>
>> Then they gave me credit which I still have, to use.
>>
>>
>>
>> Likely I’ll not be doing BGP stuff with them, but maybe they will do
>> something more benign, like standard server work.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>> Behalf Of *can...@believewireless.net
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 9, 2017 10:01 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitechs
>>
>>
>>
>> We used them once and we weren't happy. I wanted to give them a try to
>> see how they compared to others.
>>
>> What I thought was a simple BGP issue that could have been handled with a
>> 15-30 minute phone call ended
>>
>> up taking over two weeks. They "needed" to get our router configs and
>> virtualize them in their network. Then
>>
>> figure out which interfaces were backhaul links, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> They then came up with a crazy network design that, to me, made no sense.
>> After them burning a lot of hours
>>
>> on that, a simple call at the end of that process amounted to just
>> creating a single EoIP tunnel to fix the issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> So my thought is they want to burn hours whenever they can.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
>>
>> So, IPArchitechsis there a current consensus on whether they are
>> worth investing time with?   We are looking to layer BGP within (or upon)
>> our OSPF network to better control traffic between towers, subnets, etc.
>>
>> IPA talked a good game, but we didn't roll out with them.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 1:47 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitechs
>>
>> We are always here :)
>>
>>
>> Dennis Burgess - Network Solution Engineer - Consultant MikroTik
>> Certified Trainer/Consultant - MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>>
>> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net Radio Frequency
>> Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>> Office: 314-735-0270
>> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 12:45 PM
>> To: 'af@afmug.com' <af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: [AFMUG] IPArchitechs
>>
>> That company was a bust.
>>
>> So I'm looking again for a professional team/company that can
>> professionally handle my network contracting needs in a reasonable time
>> frame.
>>
>> Dennis, I'll be asking for your help again in the meantime as soon as I
>> get refunded from IPArchitechs.
>>
>>
>>
>
>


-- 

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VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] rentipv4.com

[Adair Winter]

buy them on ipv4auctions.com

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com>
wrote:

> Has anyone worked with these folks and have an opinion on their worth?
>
> Best,
> Robert
>



-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitechs

[Adair Winter]

Well said, Justin.

The little bit of consulting I've done has shown me that it's hard to take
in to account everything about a network if it's not decently  documented.
Otherwise it does take time. Sometimes without labbing stuff your taking a
gamble with your production network.

On Nov 12, 2017 10:53 PM, "Justin Wilson"  wrote:

> Speaking from a consultant side it can be a little tricky with a new
> client.  I have been burned more than once thinking I was going to “hop in
> and fix it real quick”. Anymore, I want to build relationships with my
> clients.  One of the last ones was a guy calls me at midnight having a
> traffic issue.  He has two upstream pipes he wants to try and utilize and
> needs some BGP help.  It’s an emergency situation because he is maxing out
> one pipe and the other is barely being used. So, I talk with him for 45
> minutes on his drive home before he can give me remote access.  I then
> spend the next hour or so writing out diagrams on paper trying to learn his
> network as quickly as I can.
>
> I then make some BGP changes and see traffic change and watch it for
> another 15 minutes or so. By this time his prime time is starting to wind
> down a little so I can’t tell if it’s normal traffic utilization or I
> actually fixed it. I tell client I made changes, spent 15 minutes typing up
> said changes, and say I *think* I fixed it but don’t really know enough
> about the network to say I did.  Send client invoice and say let me know
> and we can look again at no charge.
>
> Three days later I get a nasty e-mail saying I didn’t fix it, goes on and
> on how he can prove I didn’t fix it blah blah.  Oh, and by the way his
> normal consultant logged in and fixed it. Well yeah because the normal guy
> knows a whole lot more about the network than I did.
>
> Another off the street client had me look at some drop out issues.  Again,
> same story.  I have never touched the network and he calls me saying
> traffic just randomly stops for a second or two at a time.  Start looking
> at things, start from the easiest things to look at.  Spend 3 hours or so
> making sure configs are correct, etc.  Bill client and say get back to me.
> Sends me a nasty gram 3 months later saying it was the switch the routers
> were hooked into and they had buffer issues.  Why did I not tell him to
> replace the switch within the first hour?!?!?!
>
> These are just a few examples.  Us WISP consultants are a small bunch and
> we all know each other.  My advice is you need to find a consultant you can
> build a relationship with that works for BOTH of you.  My regular clients
> know I pick up the phone in a pinch and am fair with them.  However, they
> have taken the time and effort to build the relationship on their side
> too.  Anyone new who calls me that is looking for someone to answer the
> phone in that pinch automatically starts out with a 3-5 network evaluation.
> I don’t go as far as labbing everything up, but I make sure the
> documentation is spot on.  I still do the small break fixes, etc. but I am
> much more cautious about things.  We all have our own way of doing stuff.
> Some people and I don’t click.  Some do.  I am sure that is the same with
> any other consultant.
>
>
>
> Justin Wilson
> j...@mtin.net
>
> j2sw.com
> www.mtin.net
> www.midwest-ix.com
>
> On Nov 9, 2017, at 1:10 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
>
> Similar case with me which I kind of already pointed out.
>
> They couldn’t figure out a BGP issue and wanted to virtualize and put in a
> lab and spend hours on top of hours analyzing.
>
> I stopped them right there and said no thanks to that.
>
> Then I called Dennis and he took a few minutes, found out it likely wasn’t
> my problem, and worked with my upstream provider to fix it.
>
> And it was fixed after some emails back and forth between all of us.
>
> I asked IPArchitechs to refund me since they had charged me hundreds of
> dollars to get nowhere.
> One of their sales guys made out a personal check to me for some reason,
> claiming his reputation was on the line or something like that.
> I think it was a shady play at emotions, but I don’t have many emotions,
> so it didn’t work with me, lol!
>
> I took whatever little money they could refund me, however they wanted to
> refund and ‘play’ that.
> Then they gave me credit which I still have, to use.
>
> Likely I’ll not be doing BGP stuff with them, but maybe they will do
> something more benign, like standard server work.
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *can...@believewireless.net
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 9, 2017 10:01 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitechs
>
> We used them once and we weren't happy. I wanted to give them a try to see
> how they compared to others.
> What I thought was a simple BGP issue that could have been handled with a
> 15-30 minute phone call ended
> up taking over two weeks. They "needed" 

Re: [AFMUG] Reasonably priced 24 port POE switch

[Adair Winter]

I would. They have TONS of features, it just drives rather poorly.
Otherwise it seems like a solid switch. If you really want enterprise grade
(which you didn't mention in your first post) I would use HP Procurve
(referbed or new, whichever you want to afford)

Recently a small local community hospital lost 4 dell switches and we
installed 2 edge switches and 2 HP's we had laying around in their place.
We may do the whole rest of the network in edges with. (budget concerns)

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 8:13 AM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:

> Hmmm, have the Edge Switches matured to the point where they can be used
> in the enterprise?  I mean, I use the EdgePoint on my tower but our traffic
> is very simple IP traffic.
>
>
>
> Can it be trusted in the Enterprise now?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adair Winter
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 31, 2017 9:11 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Reasonably priced 24 port POE switch
>
>
>
> Edge switch is what I would use.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 8:09 AM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
>
> We need to power 22 UniFi cameras from POE.   What is a good, cost
> effective switch for that?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=658+Old+Dixie+Highway%0D+Vero+Beach,+FL+32962%0D+772=gmail=g>
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=658+Old+Dixie+Highway%0D+Vero+Beach,+FL+32962%0D+772=gmail=g>
>
> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Adair Winter
> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
> http://www.amarillowireless.net
> <http://www.amarillowireless.net>
>
>
>



-- 

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VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Reasonably priced 24 port POE switch

[Adair Winter]

Edge switch is what I would use.

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 8:09 AM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:

> We need to power 22 UniFi cameras from POE.   What is a good, cost
> effective switch for that?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=658+Old+Dixie+Highway%0D+Vero+Beach,+FL+32962%0D+772=gmail=g>
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=658+Old+Dixie+Highway%0D+Vero+Beach,+FL+32962%0D+772=gmail=g>
>
> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>



-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Best Radios (Licensed) for 2 gig

[Adair Winter]

SIAE and cambium both make radios that will do above 1gb, you'll need to
work with the vendor to figure out the best way to get to 2gb. But with
enough radios and lacp, you should be able to do it. Assuming you have the
spectrum.

On Oct 21, 2017 5:32 PM, "Mitch Koep"  wrote:

> Am looking at a 22.4 mile link that needs a gig now and 2 gig by end of
> next year
>
> Am trying to figure out the best gear for this application
>
> Thanks
>
> Mitch
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cabinets with AC and heat

[Adair Winter]

Who have you been talking to? That's never been my experience.

On Oct 19, 2017 1:18 AM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I usually like amorod but after two initial discussion and two weeks they
> never gave me a quote.
>
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017, 11:49 PM Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm pretty sure that an https://amprod.us/products/
>> outdoor-telecom-enclosures/minifort/
>> would be about the same cost, maybe a little more and made in the USA. If
>> you need a number of them I'm sure they would work with you.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 11:44 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a few projects coming up that will require some cabinets. After
>>> looking about I find that they are still rediculously expensive.
>>>
>>> I am attempting to source them out of China at which I am having a
>>> decent degree of success. At the moment I am attempting to ensure that the
>>> Hitachi air conditioners are well supported here in the states.
>>>
>>> Dimensions internally are about 70Hx31Dx31W. Room outside the 19" 4 post
>>> for outlet strips and the like as you can tell. They would ship with a
>>> 48vdc power supply since those are required for the AC fan. Aux fan and LED
>>> light would also be 48VDC. It may be possible to change that to 24VDC if
>>> enough people had to have it that way.
>>>
>>> So far, an IP55 cabinet with 110VAC 1000 Watts AC for mounted, ground
>>> bus bar, heater, auxillary fan, at least 30 RU 19" rack, separate battery
>>> compartment (probably 12 to 15 inches tall) , and single access door. I am
>>> still working on making sure the breaker panel is Square D or breaker
>>> compatible. Some dry contract alarms will be available like door opening,
>>> high temp, HVAC failure. Nothing to exotic there. I have not specified an
>>> auxillary generator plug but I could.
>>>
>>> Looks like it will run me about $2500 landed if I buy a few dozen. I am
>>> still trying to figure out how I would take care of warranty issues but I
>>> believe I'll be able to work this out.
>>>
>>> Is anyone interested in taking a few at that price? Shipping is likely
>>> to cost upwards of $300 each depending on location of course.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Adair Winter
>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
>> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
>> http://www.amarillowireless.net
>> <http://www.amarillowireless.net>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Cabinets with AC and heat

[Adair Winter]

I'm pretty sure that an
https://amprod.us/products/outdoor-telecom-enclosures/minifort/
would be about the same cost, maybe a little more and made in the USA. If
you need a number of them I'm sure they would work with you.

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 11:44 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I have a few projects coming up that will require some cabinets. After
> looking about I find that they are still rediculously expensive.
>
> I am attempting to source them out of China at which I am having a decent
> degree of success. At the moment I am attempting to ensure that the Hitachi
> air conditioners are well supported here in the states.
>
> Dimensions internally are about 70Hx31Dx31W. Room outside the 19" 4 post
> for outlet strips and the like as you can tell. They would ship with a
> 48vdc power supply since those are required for the AC fan. Aux fan and LED
> light would also be 48VDC. It may be possible to change that to 24VDC if
> enough people had to have it that way.
>
> So far, an IP55 cabinet with 110VAC 1000 Watts AC for mounted, ground bus
> bar, heater, auxillary fan, at least 30 RU 19" rack, separate battery
> compartment (probably 12 to 15 inches tall) , and single access door. I am
> still working on making sure the breaker panel is Square D or breaker
> compatible. Some dry contract alarms will be available like door opening,
> high temp, HVAC failure. Nothing to exotic there. I have not specified an
> auxillary generator plug but I could.
>
> Looks like it will run me about $2500 landed if I buy a few dozen. I am
> still trying to figure out how I would take care of warranty issues but I
> believe I'll be able to work this out.
>
> Is anyone interested in taking a few at that price? Shipping is likely to
> cost upwards of $300 each depending on location of course.
>



-- 

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VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Sonar

[Adair Winter]

This is why I prefer my billing server live on my network and I back it up.

On Oct 17, 2017 12:32 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> I am sure  you have the rights to all your data and they probably give you
> custody of periodic backups.
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 17, 2017 11:30 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sonar
>
> What would your recourse be if you DID have a contract?
> They might have a pending lawsuit, but you'd still be high and dry. It'll
> come down to trust.
>
> and I imagine they'd produce a contract if you asked for one.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Matt Hoppes" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 10/17/2017 1:27:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sonar
>
>
> It also means at any point they can just close up shop leaving my data and
> my customer information high and dry with no recourse.
>
> On Oct 17, 2017, at 13:24, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
> They provide enough value to  avoid locking you in a contract that would
> otherwise retain your business when they don't continuously earn it.
>
> Others are NOT the same.
>
> On Oct 17, 2017 12:22 PM, "Matt Hoppes" 
> wrote:
>
>> No contract?  That's frankly beyond scary.
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2017, at 13:06, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>>
>> Sonar is strictly per user with no contract, so if you haven't migrated
>> any users in yet then you pay the minimum.which I think is $100/month.
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Matt Hoppes" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 10/17/2017 9:16:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sonar
>>
>>
>> Fail.
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2017, at 08:54, Lewis Bergman  wrote:
>>
>> Many of them start charging you regardless if you are on their system
>> yet. Once you sign the contract, you start paying.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 6:00 PM Nathan Anderson  wrote:
>>
>>> ​I can understand this if the product in question is purchased/licensed
>>> for a one-time upfront fee.  However, if you have a SaaS model with
>>> recurring revenues, it seems like it would be in your best interest to help
>>> the customer move existing data over to your product cost-free, and thus
>>> get them to be a paying customer ASAP.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Nathan
>>> --
>>> *From:* Af  on behalf of Lewis Bergman <
>>> lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 16, 2017 3:36 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sonar
>>>
>>> Yea, this seems to be a common practice in the software industry. What
>>> they all should really say is that they help you convert. I am going
>>> through this with ECi at the moment. We paid several thousand for them to
>>> convert our database. What it really was was a half hearted gesture at
>>> putting the DB into an excel spreadsheet that they spent zero time checking
>>> for sanity. They expect us to do all that.
>>>
>>> It seems that most software companies expect their customers to have a
>>> whole team of people doing what seems to be the software companies job. Not
>>> saying Sonar fits the description, just that that seems to be the rule not
>>> the exception.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 5:24 PM Sterling Jacobson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Taking forever to migrate from Platypus to Sonar.

 I was told conversion was free, but they didn't tell me I had to do all
 my own conversion from Plat to Sonar, so in my mind that's not free.

 I paid Spender Lambert to move some initial data to their format, but
 I've been on a hold with Sonar since last month.

 Super excited to get going with a 'modern' billing system, but so far
 the process has been a total snoozer.

Re: [AFMUG] {Disarmed} Fwd: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment

[Adair Winter]

We have probably 30 or 40 links worth of af5x that work fine.

On Oct 10, 2017 7:34 PM, "Colin Stanners"  wrote:

> What problem(s)?
>
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 9:30 PM, Mitch Koep  wrote:
>
>> Would like the AF5s and AF5X I have to work correctly
>>
>> been months working with support
>>
>> On 10/10/2017 1:32 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>>
>> Fancy new and fast AF5XHD
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: FCC ID Alert 
>> Date: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 1:30 PM
>> Subject: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment
>> To: cstann...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> A new FCC ID application has been submitted by Ubiquiti Networks, Inc.
>> for New Equipment.
>> See FCC ID SWX-AF5XHD
>> 
>> Equipment Authorized: Digital Transmission Radio
>>
>> unsubscribe
>> 
>> [image: Web Bug from
>> http://email.fccid.io/o/eJwNzDEOwjAMAMDXkDGy46Z2hgwIeEhwbYhEitR24vVUt99SiZtpCb0mQEY4CQFiRKAMGOUuMzxmwhtcEye5TOCqfYmrHeFdi7MziGE20GyYmqN4M6AysQKFUdmfv7BV3Y-2rrbt5_AarX-ifscfFwUjbw]
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>

Re: [AFMUG] This looks like a really interesting (clone) company....

[Adair Winter]

I Saw that..

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 11:06 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net
> wrote:

>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>
>


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Re: [AFMUG] Network monitoring with pretty graphs

[Adair Winter]

we use grafana

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Sam Lambie <samtaos...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Grafana. I found it...
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 9:53 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Sounds like cacti?
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Sam Lambie" <samtaos...@gmail.com>
>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Network monitoring with pretty graphs
>> Date: Mon, Oct 9, 2017 8:46 AM
>>
>> Hey all,
>> Someone a few weeks ago posted a cool looking linux based network
>> graphing tool. I can't find that thread.
>>
>> Bueller?
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>



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Re: [AFMUG] Link Utilization Monitoring

[Adair Winter]

It's really not that hard.

On Oct 9, 2017 8:33 AM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> powercode "does" this with snmp, but requires too much work to get the
> right graphs and alerts set up
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net
> > wrote:
>
>> The do this with grafana, it's pulling link capacity and looks at
>> throughput, if it gets with in 90% we get an alert in slack
>>
>> On Oct 9, 2017 7:12 AM, "Christopher Tyler" <ch...@totalhighspeed.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So, what are people using to monitor their backhaul links?
>>>
>>> Specifically, how do you get notified when a link is getting close to
>>> saturation? Does your solution take RF link quality into account or is it
>>> blind to the actual, real-world link capabilities?
>>>
>>> Looking for something that is fire and forget. I think that initial data
>>> entry and updates will quickly become untenable if the responsibility for
>>> determining the link speed is left to a manual process. For example, if I
>>> have to run a link test to determine the link speed for every link, then
>>> that is going to be a nightmare just for the initial data entry alone. If I
>>> have to do that even once a week, it becomes a non-starter. By the time I
>>> was finished doing them all, I'd immediately have to start over to keep the
>>> links even close to being accurate. That would require a full-time employee
>>> just to handle that single task.
>>>
>>> I don't care if it's open or closed source, free or paid. I just need
>>> something that works.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Christopher Tyler
>>> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>>> Total Highspeed Internet Services
>>> 417.851.1107
>>>
>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Link Utilization Monitoring

[Adair Winter]

The do this with grafana, it's pulling link capacity and looks at
throughput, if it gets with in 90% we get an alert in slack

On Oct 9, 2017 7:12 AM, "Christopher Tyler" 
wrote:

> So, what are people using to monitor their backhaul links?
>
> Specifically, how do you get notified when a link is getting close to
> saturation? Does your solution take RF link quality into account or is it
> blind to the actual, real-world link capabilities?
>
> Looking for something that is fire and forget. I think that initial data
> entry and updates will quickly become untenable if the responsibility for
> determining the link speed is left to a manual process. For example, if I
> have to run a link test to determine the link speed for every link, then
> that is going to be a nightmare just for the initial data entry alone. If I
> have to do that even once a week, it becomes a non-starter. By the time I
> was finished doing them all, I'd immediately have to start over to keep the
> links even close to being accurate. That would require a full-time employee
> just to handle that single task.
>
> I don't care if it's open or closed source, free or paid. I just need
> something that works.
>
> --
> Christopher Tyler
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> Total Highspeed Internet Services
> 417.851.1107
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Vacuum Cleaners

[Adair Winter]

Shark is really good.

On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Go to walmart, buy a shark. Rock solid, lifetime warranty *** They replace
> one lost part for free, the pet fur attachment is amazing (it will tear
> delicate fabric)
> low cost
> they have the new line thats got front brushes
>
> the brand is solid, so really youd base your model on the features you want
>
> I gave one to the old lady on one of those gift days (Christmas, birthday,
> mothers day, valentines) dont recall which one, but she was ecstatic. you
> know its a good product when a woman is excited youre acting like a sexist
> ruffian on holiday.
>
> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm in the market for a new Vacuum cleaner as my old one sucks, or
>> doesn't, which is the problem.  I could wade through thousands of amazon
>> reviews, but I thought I'd ask for a quick poll here.  Floors are 50% split
>> between carpet and hardwood.  Occasionally we watch a dog, so pet hair
>> pickup would be a plus.  Does a brand/model work good for you.  Does it
>> not?  Is bagless really all it's purported to be.
>>
>> Nate
>>
>
>


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Re: [AFMUG] NEED STREAKWAVE OWNER PHONE #

[Adair Winter]

Tagged you, Josh and Jon on Facebook. Hope someone seems it.

On Sep 30, 2017 8:51 AM, "Gino A. Villarini"  wrote:

> Need to contact CARL or high brass to get the warehouse opened, Homeland
> security request
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Adair Winter]

e influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy,
> never have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have
> smartmeters and starbucks
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a
> lot of other Caribbean islands.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser <er...@northcentraltower.com>
> wrote:
>
> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or
> solar power.
>
>
>
>
>
> Erich Kaiser
>
> North Central Tower
>
> er...@northcentraltower.com
>
> Office: 630-621-4804 <%28630%29%20621-4804>
>
> Cell: 630-777-9291 <%28630%29%20777-9291>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
> Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
> supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that
> may be optimistic.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
>
> On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.ï¿1Ž2
>
> ï¿1Ž2
>
> I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.ï¿1Ž2 I am wondering of
> anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
>
> ï¿1Ž2
>
> Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter
> and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure
> damage.ï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2 Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully
> functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.ï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2
>
> ï¿1Ž2
>
> Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that
> work with emergency preparedness.ï¿1Ž2
>
> ï¿1Ž2
>
> I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.ï¿1Ž2
> Could certainly keep slow speed email going.ï¿1Ž2
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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C: 806.231.7180
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Re: [AFMUG] We've acquired PowerCode

[Adair Winter]

#fakenews

On Sep 26, 2017 9:28 AM, "Adam Moffett"  wrote:

> A dangerous prank.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 9/26/2017 10:28:04 AM
> Subject: [AFMUG] We've acquired PowerCode
>
> Hey all,
>
> Just wanted to get in front of this before anyone else does - Sonar has
> acquired PowerCode* (https://sonar.software/blog/
> 2017-09-26/our-acquisition-of-powercode) and we'll be reaching out to all
> the existing PowerCode customers today to discuss the transition process.
>
> We're very excited about this new step - Cameron and Georgette of
> PowerCode are both joining the Sonar team, and I'm confident they are both
> going to do great things. If you're currently using PowerCode, you'll
> receive a direct email shortly, and we'll be calling everyone as quickly as
> we can to discuss details.
>
> Cameron and Georgette will both be in Vegas with us in the Sonar booth as
> well, so please come by and say hi!
>
> --
> Simon Westlake
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The future of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>
>
>
> * fake news generated by Chuck McCown to create some fun for the day...
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs

[Adair Winter]

I think we started having issues around 600 or 800 subs on our NX216


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:14 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net
> wrote:

>
> i have heard rumor you might have problems with a nx216 with 500 or so
> accounts or higher.
> the symptom is when you see "bmu queue" counter start being high(er) on
> your billing server.
> we have not run into this yet and are still on a nx216 - close to 700
> customers i think.
>
> we have been adding and removing a lot (of customers) lately
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:47 PM
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] powercode bmu specs
>
> anybody know where the hardware details are? I think we outgrew a bmu, but
> with the whole new nonsense website and haphazard tertiary sites I don't
> seem to be able to find any specs
>
>


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Re: [AFMUG] FM radio colocation interference?

[Adair Winter]

We colo on a tower with three fm's on it. Double shielded cable and good
grounding. Never had a problem..

On Sep 16, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jon Langeler"  wrote:

> Theres a potentially new FM radio tenant wanting to colocate on a tower we
> are already on. We're predicting there is absolutely no way this will work
> with our 100BT and 1000BT Ethernet links.
>
> He anyone collocated with FM radio and 'it worked '?
>
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Pauls cashflow with afmug

[Adair Winter]

I guess I'm the odd ball out, what are we donating to/for?

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> I ante’d up too, start dealing.
>
> *From:* Jeremy
> *Sent:* Friday, September 15, 2017 9:08 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pauls cashflow with afmug
>
> Just sent you $100 (cyber-surplus)
>
> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 6:46 AM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Steve,
>>
>>
>>
>> I was thinking of that also.  It’s actually more than that, we kept the
>> support only because there wasn’t a decent pay per incident plan with
>> anything that added value to solving a problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, its around $ 200 per month.  Last time, we got in $ 950
>> (approximately).  I don’t mind a difficiency (meaning PDMNet pays a decent
>> part of it). And, we did it the first 2 years fully bearing costs.
>>
>>
>>
>> We really don’t mind doing this.  I know there was a discussion last time
>> about options.  My simple statement is “It works great” one less thing to
>> deal with, yet getting good results.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any contributions are certainly welcome, especially at this time.  We
>> have heavy losses with customer gear and recovery costs.  The largest part
>> of our coverage area got 100mph+ gusts.  A very large tree came apart
>> (probably a tornado) and blew that and a bunch of other stuff into a Rohn
>> 25G 150ft. and brought it down.  Trashed everything on the tower also. So,
>> there is a $ 15K hit to get a new one up (Rohn 45G)  and they just got the
>> land cleared yesterday,  trying to get new foundation work done.
>>
>>
>>
>> It was a tower site that we acquired and the foundations turned out to be
>> substandard, so we have to start from scratch and the property owner is not
>> contributing as he “Doesn’t make enough money from it”.
>>
>>
>>
>> Our paypal address is pa...@pdmnet.net
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 15, 2017 12:56 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pauls cashflow with afmug
>>
>>
>>
>> Last update btw, was about 1800 bucks a year without support.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 14, 2017 11:30 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Its been a bit since a benefit drive for the list. Current situations
>> with weather and all might indicate a need for an afmug influx again. My
>> donations come out of my personal pockets. Im personally rich in spirit,
>> poor in cash. But can we get the paypal address back up so right now that
>> cashflow isnt a concern?
>>
>>
>>
>
>



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C: 806.231.7180
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Re: [AFMUG] RD-5G30-LW vs. RD-5G30

[Adair Winter]

I don't like the LW dish. My preferred dish is the 31-ac dish.
Unless you just want cheap.

On Sep 12, 2017 8:55 AM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:

> How do these lightweight dishes perform compared to the regular ones?   Is
> the mount the same or is it the same.   For $ 40 less times a bunch of them
> I need, its worth the question.
>
>
>
> Obviously, I can’t skimp on construction in Florida, so needing to ask the
> question to those who have used them
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
> 
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
> 
>
> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says

[Adair Winter]

yes, and also higher latency and potentially unstable modulation rates.

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:01 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> On a 5 mile link, perfect LOS path, clear fresnel zones, blue sky day, B11
> will have more throughput than AF11x?
>
>
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:55 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>
> Sure, it also has greater potential throughput and an SFP cage.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, August 17, 2017 3:46:17 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>
> Just went through their costing page.  More than an AF11x system.
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:32 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>
> List is $2k, available for less.
>
> http://www.balticnetworks.com/mimosa-b11-starter-kit-with-
> 11ghz-antennas.html
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, August 17, 2017 3:28:46 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>
> What is the cost of a B11 radio?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rory Conaway
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:12 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>
> It's a WiFi based chipset but that has nothing to do with the modulation
> being all over the place for no apparent reason.  That's simply not true
> Matthew and has nothing to do with the chipset or the PHY layer.  If the
> link is calculated correctly and installed correctly, that is simply not
> the
> case.  Every single radio out there adapts to a changing environment
> because
> if they didn't, they would disconnect when conditions got below the link
> specifications.
>
> I've got several up, one at 50 miles so we have some experience with the
> radios.  I’m upgrading it to Cambium 820's shortly simply because I want
> more bandwidth but the radio costs are 5 times higher and we put them in a
> year ago.  However, other B11's we have in place have been flawless as
> well
> as our Dragonwaves and Siklus.
>
> Rory
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 11:49 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>
> On 8/17/17 11:33, Mathew Howard wrote:
> > I think the point is, on a B11 link (well, both of ours, anyway), the
> > modulation will be all over the place at any given time for no
> > apparent reason. Every other licensed radio I've ever used will sit at
> > full modulation (or whatever it's supposed to be at) unless there's
> > something wrong with it, or there's a major storm going through that
> > causes enough fade for the signal level to drop. B11's tend to act
> > much more like I would expect an unlicensed link to act.
>
> Isn't it just a wifi-based thing in a licensed band?
>
>
>
>



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Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says

[Adair Winter]

B11 just isn't solid enough for me. I've installed 4 links for other people
with a few being short (like 3 miles) and they would not modulate well
without turning the power down significantly.
One 10 mile short we did works with the power turned down but is cuts in to
the SNR and we need that to survive rain. They just act quirky to me.

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Sure, it also has greater potential throughput and an SFP cage.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, August 17, 2017 3:46:17 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>
> Just went through their costing page.  More than an AF11x system.
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:32 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>
> List is $2k, available for less.
>
> http://www.balticnetworks.com/mimosa-b11-starter-kit-with-
> 11ghz-antennas.html
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, August 17, 2017 3:28:46 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>
> What is the cost of a B11 radio?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rory Conaway
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:12 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>
> It's a WiFi based chipset but that has nothing to do with the modulation
> being all over the place for no apparent reason.  That's simply not true
> Matthew and has nothing to do with the chipset or the PHY layer.  If the
> link is calculated correctly and installed correctly, that is simply not
> the
> case.  Every single radio out there adapts to a changing environment
> because
> if they didn't, they would disconnect when conditions got below the link
> specifications.
>
> I've got several up, one at 50 miles so we have some experience with the
> radios.  I’m upgrading it to Cambium 820's shortly simply because I want
> more bandwidth but the radio costs are 5 times higher and we put them in a
> year ago.  However, other B11's we have in place have been flawless as
> well
> as our Dragonwaves and Siklus.
>
> Rory
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 11:49 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>
> On 8/17/17 11:33, Mathew Howard wrote:
> > I think the point is, on a B11 link (well, both of ours, anyway), the
> > modulation will be all over the place at any given time for no
> > apparent reason. Every other licensed radio I've ever used will sit at
> > full modulation (or whatever it's supposed to be at) unless there's
> > something wrong with it, or there's a major storm going through that
> > causes enough fade for the signal level to drop. B11's tend to act
> > much more like I would expect an unlicensed link to act.
>
> Isn't it just a wifi-based thing in a licensed band?
>
>
>
>


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Re: [AFMUG] 100-500 Mbps

[Adair Winter]

About $6 or 7k.  600mb
Nothing much is cheaper


On Aug 14, 2017 12:51 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> I need to extend backbone to a handful (9) of DSL remotes.  Most of them
> have perhaps 15 customers each.  This is a micro-pop type of application.
> So 100-250 Mbps is probably plenty of BW for now.
>
> I was considering AF11 for this but there are several other radios out
> there in a similar category.
>
> Most of the distance average 5 miles.  Hoping to use 2’ dishes for
> everything.  I think I will be doing 9 remote sites.
> I think you can get one license and add locations and frequencies to it,
> so hoping to save some money there.
>
> What is an AF11 system selling for all in?
>
> Any other suggestions for radio?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

[Adair Winter]

I programmed phone systems for almost 6 years as a career. Touched lots of
different systems and I'd take the gui on freepbx any day over programming
from a phone.  It's probably the equivalent of cli vs gui to us networking
guys.

I do wish freepbx was better laid out and more modules were linked
together. But like anything, once you learn it, it's easy.

The thing I'm constantly amazed at is the same (and more really) features I
can get out of freepbx would cost someone $20-30k to have installed in the
telecom world (assuming 30-40 phones).  Freepbx cost us less than $5k.
(phones & freepbx licensing. We have about 30 phones). And I honestly feel
like I have more flexibility than any traditional tdm pbx.
Most other commercial voip products like, vertical wave, shoretel, zultys,
NEC, avaya, Cisco, etc are good and probably just as flexible as freepbx
but cost the same as traditional systems if not more.

I think it boils down to if you are willing to learn on your own or you
need someone to do it for you.

Adair



On Aug 9, 2017 7:46 PM, "Nathan Anderson"  wrote:

> Personally, I agree with you on FreePBX.  For a PBX GUI, what I want to
> see is something that someone other than the original installer can
> navigate and manipulate.  Asterisk-GUI is somewhat inflexible (no plug-ins,
> so if there isn't a way to do what you want in the GUI, you still have to
> dive into the .conf files) and is largely deprecated now by Digium anyway,
> but at least the functionality it does present is presented in a
> straightforward manner that (I think) makes sense.  I can get around
> FreePBX myself just fine, but it feels more like what I would expect a GUI
> for Asterisk to look like if someone just decided to wrap a web interface
> around the Asterisk text configuration files...the design of it feels lazy
> to me.  Instead of just being familiar with general PBXisms, a user has to
> actually know Asteriskisms to get around in FreePBX (or at least it did the
> last time I played with it, which admittedly was several years ago).
>
>
>
> -- Nathan
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 09, 2017 2:00 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones
>
>
>
> I don't care for FreePBX.  I think it makes certain hard tasks easy, but
> then makes tasks hard which were easy in vanilla Asterisk.
>
> The provisioning plugin is really nice as long as your phones are
> supported.
>
>
>
> Maybe the simplest thing would be one of those cloud based systems where
> they do everything for you.  You'll pay something recurring per phone, but
> all the hard parts are someone else's problem.  You'd have no problem being
> up in 2 days, let alone 2 weeks.
>
>
>
> Second simplest is configure the phones individually with their web page
> (or whatever --I haven't used unifi phones) and buy an appliance with some
> tech support included.  As an example, Adtran Total Access 904 can be a SIP
> server for your VoIP extensions, and supports SIP, analog, or T1/PRI for
> your incoming lines.  There are certainly Asterisk appliances as well.  I
> think you'll also find that most PBX vendors support VoIP now...they'd be
> stupid not to right?  You might pay for support, or maybe you'll get some
> post sale support for free, but either way somebody helps you with anything
> you're stuck on.
>
>
>
> Third simplest is PBX in a Flash or similar Asterisk+FreePBX
> distribution.  You'll have the least capital invested, and the most labor.
>
>
>
> Least simple: Vanilla Asterisk isn't so hard once you get some practice
> with it and as long as you have time to learn and experiment.
>
>
>
> My 2c
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
>
> From: "Josh Reynolds" 
>
> To: af@afmug.com
>
> Sent: 8/9/2017 4:27:36 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones
>
>
>
> PBX.
>
>
>
> Simple? VoIP is not simple. FreePBX is as simple as it gets, and it's only
> simple because it is limiting.
>
>
>
> For provisioning you will need a tftp server, the ability to set DHCP
> options, and a basic grasp of XML.
>
>
>
> On Aug 9, 2017 2:35 PM, "Timothy Steele"  wrote:
>
> Anyone Working With Unifi Phones?
>
>
>
> going to island of Palau to re do a network and VOIP System if they do not
> get Bombed by north Korea first :( but anyway is there like a super simple
> BPX out there to connect with unifi phones would only have 2 weeks to get
> this all done soo looking for easy lol
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

[Adair Winter]

The end point manager for freepbx is awesome

On Aug 9, 2017 3:33 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> There's a provisioning plugin for FreePBX, at least there was.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 9, 2017 3:27:36 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones
>
> PBX.
>
> Simple? VoIP is not simple. FreePBX is as simple as it gets, and it's only
> simple because it is limiting.
>
> For provisioning you will need a tftp server, the ability to set DHCP
> options, and a basic grasp of XML.
>
> On Aug 9, 2017 2:35 PM, "Timothy Steele"  wrote:
>
>> Anyone Working With Unifi Phones?
>>
>> going to island of Palau to re do a network and VOIP System if they do
>> not get Bombed by north Korea first :( but anyway is there like a super
>> simple BPX out there to connect with unifi phones would only have 2 weeks
>> to get this all done soo looking for easy lol
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link

[Adair Winter]

certainly. but seems a little waste full. that's really the sweet spot for
18

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 7:53 AM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
wrote:

> What about 6 GHz?
>
> Adair Winter wrote:
>
>> Forget 24, 60, 80Ghz if that's what you're thinking
>> If you can't do 5 (and you probably can if you think you can pull on DFS
>> or UNII-1) than 11 and 11ghz are about your only options.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Eric Rogers <ecrog...@precisionds.com
>> <mailto:ecrog...@precisionds.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I need a link that is capable of 4.25 miles, and something over
>> 100M.  I fear that 5GHz will be out because of all the used
>> spectrum, but wanted to ask what are my options?
>>
>> Eric Rogers
>>
>> PDSConnect_logo-Connecting You to the World - Signature Logo
>>
>> www.pdsconnect.me <http://www.pdsconnect.me>
>>
>> (317) 831-3000 x200 <tel:%28317%29%20831-3000>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Adair Winter
>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
>> C: 806.231.7180
>> http://www.amarillowireless.net <http://www.amarillowireless.net/>
>> <http://www.amarillowireless.net>
>>
>>
>>
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>> source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient>
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>>
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>>
>
>


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C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
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Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link

[Adair Winter]

Forget 24, 60, 80Ghz if that's what you're thinking
If you can't do 5 (and you probably can if you think you can pull on DFS or
UNII-1) than 11 and 11ghz are about your only options.

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Eric Rogers <ecrog...@precisionds.com>
wrote:

> I need a link that is capable of 4.25 miles, and something over 100M.  I
> fear that 5GHz will be out because of all the used spectrum, but wanted to
> ask what are my options?
>
>
>
> Eric Rogers
>
> [image: PDSConnect_logo-Connecting You to the World - Signature Logo]
>
> www.pdsconnect.me
>
> (317) 831-3000 x200 <(317)%20831-3000>
>
>
>



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Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] new GigE-APC issues

[Adair Winter]

How many is many?

We have at least 50 airfiber links deployed and have been using the
GigE-apc for over two years so I'm not sure what all revs we have.

We never seen the issues if we use the transector aplu

On Jul 30, 2017 2:01 AM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> All of my AF5Xs and AF24 are running on the older version of the
> GIGE-POE-APC and they work fine at gigabit.  We have MANY.  Just FYI.
>
> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 9:28 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, all info like this is very helpful.  GigE is more akin to RF
>> engineering than digital.
>>
>> *From:* Adair Winter
>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 29, 2017 8:19 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] new GigE-APC issues
>>
>> If we can feed you any data to help troubleshoot, please let me know what
>> that would be. in several places we've had to remove the modules. It only
>> seems like it's airfiber 24's and 5x's we ever have problems with. I mostly
>> chock it up them and possibly crummy ethernet ports. When we have trouble
>> it doesn't seem to matter what cable we use or how long the run is it. We
>> have lots on UBNT Carrier cable and recently many on Primus CAT6, doesn't
>> seem to make a lot of difference. Removing the modules always fixes the CRC
>> errors though.
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 9:10 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It tests perfect on the lab  but as we all know
>>>
>>> Full speed, no CRC or any other type of errors.  Long cables, short
>>> cables etc etc.
>>>
>>> I generally only hear from cambium users.  And not that much, so it is
>>> not happening on all of them, but some.
>>>
>>> I do have 3 components coming that  have better specs that I am
>>> switching to.
>>> It will improve NEXT and return loss.
>>> If that is the cause then that will be the fix.
>>>
>>> There is also a thing in the POE inserters called the "Bob Smith" or BS
>>> termination.
>>> There really was a guy named Bob Smith that did the original calculation.
>>>
>>> There is another guy that has more recently published a different
>>> mathematical treatment of the BS termination that uses a different
>>> impedance.  I am going to try this and see if it improves things as well.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: George Skorup
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 4:10 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new GigE-APC issues
>>>
>>> I had very few issues with the previous ones. The RJ45 tab facing at the
>>> PCB was a minor inconvenience. Sync over power + gigabit didn't play
>>> nice with those, but GigE otherwise worked fine.
>>>
>>> I tested a couple prototypes of the new revision for Chuck. Sync over
>>> power + gigabit with a PowerInjector+Sync and a 450 AP worked fine. Then
>>> we replaced that AP with a 450i because of the 450's PPS limit. I didn't
>>> notice it at the time, but the 450i never came up at gigabit. We didn't
>>> really need >80Mbps downlink anyway. It would usually run about 55-60 at
>>> night which was where the 450 was crapping out. Well, more like 50 and
>>> 9-10k PPS.
>>>
>>> Now I've got some ePMP GPS radios for PTP (not for sync, just the GigE
>>> interface). Same symptoms as the UBNT prism thingamajig. The link comes
>>> up at gig, but flaps and constant FCS errors. The 450i just goes, gig,
>>> gig, gig, nope.. 100mbps at bootup.
>>>
>>> Pulling the SS out makes it work, but I can't do that. We lost that 450i
>>> AP because someone went and bypassed the SS because they were apparently
>>> concerned about the CRC errors and didn't f'ing tell me about it, even
>>> after I said I'd debug it on Monday. Welp, a storm rolled in the Friday
>>> before and.. there went the AP. Good job! In Steve Jones' words, I have
>>> only one comment: fuckwits.
>>>
>>> I'd say just stay tuned. Chuck is working on it. As he put it, GigE is a
>>> different animal. NEXT, FEXT and all that fun stuff.
>>>
>>> On 7/29/2017 4:20 PM, Matt wrote:
>>>
>>>> Seeing same issues on Gigabit ethernet ports with Cambium PxP450i and
>>>> also SAF licensed gear.  Shorter cable runs help but just not possible
>>>> on some towers.  Bypassing the GigE-APC always fixes it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 12:40 PM, George Skorup
>>>> <george.sko...@cb

Re: [AFMUG] new GigE-APC issues

[Adair Winter]

nly our stuff on it.
>>>
>>> The stuff I was working with yesterday is a new UBNT Prism PTP radio, new
>>> GigE-APC, new CCR1009. This site also has an Exalt G2-11 fed by an older
>>> GigE-POE-APC and I get no errors on that. It used to be plugged into a
>>> MikroTik CRS210 and I didn't see any errors on that either.
>>>
>>> I had far fewer issues with the older cards. Unfortunately I don't think
>>> I
>>> have any good ones left to do a comparison. I do have a couple that got
>>> some
>>> water in the jack, maybe I can clean those up for testing. I've used
>>> maybe
>>> 10 of the new ones now and they all seem to be causing issues. And before
>>> you ask, yes, I've tried dumb gigabit switches at a few sites temporarily
>>> and still see the random link loss with the SS in line.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>


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C: 806.231.7180
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Re: [AFMUG] new GigE-APC issues

[Adair Winter]

We've had a lot of issues with almost all the revs of modules mostly with
airfiber. I can't quite pin down who's to blame. But on many sites if we
have airfiber x we just remove the modules if we have problems.

On Jul 29, 2017 12:40 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:

> I think I've seen this mentioned a few times now. Maybe Steve and a couple
> others?
>
> The latest revision (D?) is causing CRC/FCS errors and random link drops.
> Taking the SS out makes all problems go away.
>
> Definitely more issues at gigabit. I have multiple sites with some UBNT
> and ePMP stuff (no sync over power). Some I've turned off gigabit
> negotiation and get only a few FCS errors here and there. Running gigabit
> sees lots more errors and adds a 2-3 second link loss randomly which is a
> big issue on a PTP link.
>
> Got a couple sites with 450i APs. One that I was working with the other
> day is a new radio (because the old one blew up). New cable, new GigE-APC,
> new PacketFlux PowerInjector. The link tries to negotiate gigabit, but
> falls back to 100 after a few tries. Turned off sync over power just to see
> and still no gigabit. Remove the SS and it works fine.
>
> Floating the shield makes no difference. Running the site on battery also
> makes no difference. Some FM sites, some water towers, some elevators, some
> regular towers with only our stuff on it.
>
> The stuff I was working with yesterday is a new UBNT Prism PTP radio, new
> GigE-APC, new CCR1009. This site also has an Exalt G2-11 fed by an older
> GigE-POE-APC and I get no errors on that. It used to be plugged into a
> MikroTik CRS210 and I didn't see any errors on that either.
>
> I had far fewer issues with the older cards. Unfortunately I don't think I
> have any good ones left to do a comparison. I do have a couple that got
> some water in the jack, maybe I can clean those up for testing. I've used
> maybe 10 of the new ones now and they all seem to be causing issues. And
> before you ask, yes, I've tried dumb gigabit switches at a few sites
> temporarily and still see the random link loss with the SS in line.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] DVB traffic over wireless

[Adair Winter]

We put in a siklu 60ghz link for a TV station who transports their dvb
stream over it. Just need the right sdi boxes on both ends.

On Jul 26, 2017 10:25 AM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:

> Someone asked me if we could carry DVB or DVB-T traffic over wireless.  Is
> that standard IP traffic that can be carried over Layer 2 or is it
> something that can be converted at the head end and translated at the
> client side?
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542 <(602)%20426-0542>*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>
> *www.triadwireless.net *
>
>
>
> *“A hot dog at the game beats roast beef at the Ritz.”* — Humphrey Bogart
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Diplexer question

[Adair Winter]

Lewis,
Quiet the interesting and extreme take on this. How is equipment made to
operate in the 10.7 to 11.7Ghz band out of compliance? You do realize that
band 7 and 8 are SUB-bands of the 11Ghz licensed band right? And that a
diplexers is simply a passively tuned filter? You make it seem like we are
about to build out own pirate 11ghz radio.

We would never do anything out of compliance. My question was just that, a
simple question about how tight the diplexer may or may not be. Money isn't
the problem, Had you read my original post to the end, you'd see that it's
the length of time to receive parts, not cost that is the concern.

Adair

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 6:53 AM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I don't know if you care but you definitely be out of compliance with your
> license as you will be using equipment not certified in that band. While
> they may work, you really won't have an idea about how a link "should"
> perform as you are using it out of its tested operational parameters. So,
> if you are good with being illegal and aligning and realigning until you
> think it is as good as it gets, I guess you go for it.
> Are Exalt diplexers that expensive?
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:49 AM Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> How wide is your channel size? You may be more than just 5/15mhz past the
>> edge. From what I remember most diplexers in that range don't have such a
>> sharp cutoff that they would affect only a few mhz, but if you're running
>> 80mhz channels you're more likely to get an edge cut off, with interesting
>> results.
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2017 12:07 AM, "Adair Winter" <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a set of exalt exploreair radios with band 8
>>> (11.00-11.2/11.5-11.7 diplexers in them. I'm currently licensed in band 7,
>>> (10.925-11.125/11.425-11.625) on 10.995/11.485. So only 5mhz outside the
>>> band 8 diplexers. Anyone know how sharp the cutoff is and if these "might"
>>> work or not? Last we knew, exalt was 16 weeks out on parts.. :(
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Adair Winter
>>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
>>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
>>> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
>>> http://www.amarillowireless.net
>>> <http://www.amarillowireless.net>
>>>
>>>
>>>


-- 

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VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Diplexer question

[Adair Winter]

right, good point. it would be an 80mhz channel.

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:49 AM, Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> How wide is your channel size? You may be more than just 5/15mhz past the
> edge. From what I remember most diplexers in that range don't have such a
> sharp cutoff that they would affect only a few mhz, but if you're running
> 80mhz channels you're more likely to get an edge cut off, with interesting
> results.
>
> On Jul 25, 2017 12:07 AM, "Adair Winter" <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I have a set of exalt exploreair radios with band 8 (11.00-11.2/11.5-11.7
>> diplexers in them. I'm currently licensed in band 7,
>> (10.925-11.125/11.425-11.625) on 10.995/11.485. So only 5mhz outside the
>> band 8 diplexers. Anyone know how sharp the cutoff is and if these "might"
>> work or not? Last we knew, exalt was 16 weeks out on parts.. :(
>>
>> --
>>
>> Adair Winter
>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
>> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
>> http://www.amarillowireless.net
>> <http://www.amarillowireless.net>
>>
>>
>>


-- 

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VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

[AFMUG] Diplexer question

[Adair Winter]

I have a set of exalt exploreair radios with band 8 (11.00-11.2/11.5-11.7
diplexers in them. I'm currently licensed in band 7,
(10.925-11.125/11.425-11.625) on 10.995/11.485. So only 5mhz outside the
band 8 diplexers. Anyone know how sharp the cutoff is and if these "might"
work or not? Last we knew, exalt was 16 weeks out on parts.. :(

-- 

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VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

[AFMUG] Battery Charger & Inverter

[Adair Winter]

Hello,
We have some old C telco batteries that were in our data center when we
moved in (50 year batters that are about 25 years old). We've been keeping
them watered and in decent shape.

I'm looking for a company that could help us put them back in operation.
i.e, large 100a 48v battery charger and and large inverter we can use to
feed a sub panel to distribute power probably also around 20kVa.

Thanks

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VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa C5c

[Adair Winter]

Where can it be purchased and can you get stiff arms for it?

On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 11:44 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
wrote:

> I found it.  The MCM has a 38” J-Pole which is stronger than the DS-3000.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 23, 2017 12:46 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa C5c
>
>
>
> Documentation on the Rocketdish? The port that faces down is v-pol, the
> other is obviously h-pol. I've used them on ePMP SMs. The "horizontal" on
> the radio goes to the vertical on the dish and vice versa. Most all of
> these more modern radios and their software/drivers don't care if it's
> backwards. And in fact, most can work in a mixed environment where you have
> H/V on one side and -/+45 on the other. There are advantages to slant in
> noisy and multipath environments.
>
> On 7/23/2017 10:34 AM, David Coudron wrote:
>
> We are just starting to install these.   We are using the RocketDish
> 5G30.   We have already learned a couple of things we didn’t expect:
>
>1. When you unlock them, you need to select PTMP mode.   There is a
>question during the unlock process that wasn’t highly apparent, and our
>installer missed it and selected PTP or it defaulted to PTP, not sure which
>yet.   Spent a lot of time trying to figure out why it would only see PTP
>links.   I am not sure the question even pops up in the mobile app, we need
>to look at that again as that is what the installer used to unlock it.   We
>caught it after unlocking another one from the web browser on a laptop.
>2. We also spent quite a bit of time with the cable connections as the
>connectors aren’t marked with polarity.  After getting two opposite answers
>on the polarity of the connectors from Mimosa, the final answer was that
>connector 1=Horizontal, but it doesn’t matter as the unit autocorrects for
>polarity.   This was late on Friday, we will be working with it again to
>confirm tomorrow.  We have been unable to find any documentation on the
>RocketDish, but aren’t sure that using one connector on the dish versus
>another for Horizontal matters if the C5c is really autocorrecting.
>3. You need a pretty tall and heavy duty J-Pole as the bracket on the
>back is pretty long between the two clamp points.   Normal J-Poles, even
>the heavy ones we are using aren’t long enough.   We are trying to find a
>better option for that.
>
>
>
> We expect we will only use these in limited areas as we have been having
> really good luck with the C5.   Just installed a link at 3 miles and are
> getting RSSI of -68.
>
>
>
>
>
> *David Coudron*
>
> david.coud...@advantenon.com |  *Mobile: *612-991-7474 <(612)%20991-7474>
>
>
>
> *Advantenon, Inc.  *   [image: cid:image001.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0]
> <http://www.linkedin.com/company/Advantenon>  [image:
> cid:image002.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0] <http://www.twitter.com/Advantenon>  
> [image:
> cid:image003.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0] <http://www.facebook.com/Advantenon>  
> [image:
> cid:image004.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0] <http://blog.advantenon.com/>
>
> i...@advantenon.com |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN
> 55447 |  www.advantenon.com |  *Phone:* 800-704-4720 <(800)%20704-4720> |
> *Local: *612-454-1545 <(612)%20454-1545>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 22, 2017 8:55 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Mimosa C5c
>
>
>
> Anyone out there using these?  With what antennas?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> -Jason
>
>
>



-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa C5c

[Adair Winter]

The ds3000 is probably one of the worst mounts I've ever used. Super soft
and easy to crush. Might be ok with a support arm.

The UML that streakwave sells is much higher quality.

On Jul 23, 2017 10:43 AM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:

> The DS-3000 mount with at least 1 brace works well although 2 are
> recommended.  There is another one called a striker which even stronger.
>  Also look at the KPPerformance antennas.   Kent Urweiller says they are
> better on noise than the LW antennas.  Mine just came in so I haven’t
> tested it yet.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *David Coudron
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 23, 2017 8:35 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa C5c
>
>
>
> We are just starting to install these.   We are using the RocketDish
> 5G30.   We have already learned a couple of things we didn’t expect:
>
>1. When you unlock them, you need to select PTMP mode.   There is a
>question during the unlock process that wasn’t highly apparent, and our
>installer missed it and selected PTP or it defaulted to PTP, not sure which
>yet.   Spent a lot of time trying to figure out why it would only see PTP
>links.   I am not sure the question even pops up in the mobile app, we need
>to look at that again as that is what the installer used to unlock it.   We
>caught it after unlocking another one from the web browser on a laptop.
>2. We also spent quite a bit of time with the cable connections as the
>connectors aren’t marked with polarity.  After getting two opposite answers
>on the polarity of the connectors from Mimosa, the final answer was that
>connector 1=Horizontal, but it doesn’t matter as the unit autocorrects for
>polarity.   This was late on Friday, we will be working with it again to
>confirm tomorrow.  We have been unable to find any documentation on the
>RocketDish, but aren’t sure that using one connector on the dish versus
>another for Horizontal matters if the C5c is really autocorrecting.
>3. You need a pretty tall and heavy duty J-Pole as the bracket on the
>back is pretty long between the two clamp points.   Normal J-Poles, even
>the heavy ones we are using aren’t long enough.   We are trying to find a
>better option for that.
>
>
>
> We expect we will only use these in limited areas as we have been having
> really good luck with the C5.   Just installed a link at 3 miles and are
> getting RSSI of -68.
>
>
>
>
>
> *David Coudron*
>
> david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  *Mobile: *612-991-7474 <(612)%20991-7474>
>
>
>
> *Advantenon, Inc.  *   [image: cid:image001.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0]
>   [image:
> cid:image002.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0]   
> [image:
> cid:image003.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0]   
> [image:
> cid:image004.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0] 
>
> i...@advantenon.com  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN
> 55447  |  www.advantenon.com  |  *Phone:* 800-704-4720 <(800)%20704-4720>
>  |  *Local: *612-454-1545 <(612)%20454-1545>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 22, 2017 8:55 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Mimosa C5c
>
>
>
> Anyone out there using these?  With what antennas?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> -Jason
>

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Wages

[Adair Winter]

We have this split up.
Our L2 support guys program all the radios for the guys. (generally) and
one of them also does some RF planning and sub management. I.E, if we put a
new sector on a tower, he will migrate users over to it. etc.  L2 support
makes 15-19/hr currently I believe.

Tower crew is really also a  "construction" crew, they do everything from
dig trenches to climb towers, anything that needs to be done in the field
to support a pop or tower. I think we are in the $16-21/hr range with them.
Their supervisor makes more than that.

We have a long time employee who is salary who helps me manage the sectors
and plays with all new hardware before it is deployed. He's also our
"special projects guy" He's in the $50k/yr range.

On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Tower guys. Folks who program radios manage RF handle tower issues. Etc.
>
> On Jul 23, 2017, at 11:20 AM, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
> wrote:
>
> What do you mean by network techs? Tower guys and such?
>
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Matt Hoppes <mattlists@
> rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> How much are you paying your network techs then?
>>
>> On Jul 23, 2017, at 11:10 AM, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Starting with not much experience, $11/hr. everyone else makes $15-20/hr.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Matt Hoppes <
>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>
>>> What are you all paying your installers per hour?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Adair Winter
>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
>> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
>> http://www.amarillowireless.net
>> <http://www.amarillowireless.net>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Adair Winter
> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
> http://www.amarillowireless.net
> <http://www.amarillowireless.net>
>
>
>


-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Wages

[Adair Winter]

What do you mean by network techs? Tower guys and such?

On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> How much are you paying your network techs then?
>
> On Jul 23, 2017, at 11:10 AM, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
> wrote:
>
> Starting with not much experience, $11/hr. everyone else makes $15-20/hr.
>
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Matt Hoppes <mattlists@
> rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> What are you all paying your installers per hour?
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Adair Winter
> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
> http://www.amarillowireless.net
> <http://www.amarillowireless.net>
>
>
>


-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Wages

[Adair Winter]

Starting with not much experience, $11/hr. everyone else makes $15-20/hr.

On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> What are you all paying your installers per hour?
>



-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Complaining Employees

[Adair Winter]

It sucks to let people go. The guy has is single with a couple kids, he
almost cried in the meeting. Wondering how he was going to pay rent... Hard
to watch, We did give him severance pay, which was more than a week and a
half of his hourly.. We didn't have to do that, but we also aren't jerks
either. :)

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

>
>
> On 7/22/17 8:47 PM, Adair Winter wrote:
>
>> We just had to let an installer go, 7 write ups in 7 months. Always
>> something small and always had an excuse for it. In the meeting where we
>> let him go he complained that he hadn't been shown the right things to
>> do and if he had he would have fixed them. It was garbage, he had ride
>> alongs with his supervisor and had been told several times that he
>> needed to make minor corrections in areas.
>> In the end, you just have to document everything and bring down the
>> hammer.
>>
>>
>
>  This... is unfortunately how I've seen this situation play out far
> too often.  Which is what led me to ask this question.  It doesn't matter
> how many times you say things and how clearly you try to lay it out -- when
> push comes to shove, somehow the employee had no clue they were being told
> to fix things.
>



-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Complaining Employees

[Adair Winter]

We just had to let an installer go, 7 write ups in 7 months. Always
something small and always had an excuse for it. In the meeting where we
let him go he complained that he hadn't been shown the right things to do
and if he had he would have fixed them. It was garbage, he had ride alongs
with his supervisor and had been told several times that he needed to make
minor corrections in areas.
In the end, you just have to document everything and bring down the hammer.



On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> In my experience bad employees are unfixable.
> I have never fired someone and said “gee, maybe I should have given them
> another chance”
> It is always “why in the hell didn’t I do that months ago”.
>
> And I  have had 100s of employees.
>
> *From:* Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 22, 2017 4:44 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Complaining Employees
>
> Counsel. Meh!
>
> On Jul 22, 2017 5:44 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
>> Quantify their deficiencies.
>>
>> If you find the same thing done wrong over and over, councel them on the
>> topic. Maybe they are doing it how they thought it was supposed to be done,
>> maybe not.
>>
>> If the list is large and diverse, have a sit down with them. List the
>> issues you have in a calm and collected way, and the number of times you
>> found those issues. See how they react.
>>
>> It might be they are having issues at home that are carrying over into
>> their thoughts at work. It could be that they think they are doing better
>> than they are, and need a reality check.
>>
>> In the end if you want people to respect you, respect them. Hold them
>> accountable for their failures and encourage them when they succeed. You
>> are part of their development and success for this industry and for your
>> business.
>>
>> I'm sure many here on this list would disagree... Yeah well, that's just
>> like, their opinion, man.
>>
>> I wouldn't want to work with them or for them anyway :)
>>
>> On Jul 22, 2017 5:23 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How do you deal with employees that seem to always be complaining about
>>> some aspect of their job, and always have an excuse for why something was
>>> done wrong?  They think they are dedicated, claim they want to be
>>> dedicated, but repeatedly fail to produce, create work for others, fail to
>>> perform even the simplest of tasks properly and while, when met with, will
>>> say they understand and are working to improve - fail to improve.
>>>
>>> Is this behavior fixable?  Thoughts?
>>>
>>


-- 

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VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] RB1100AHx4

[Adair Winter]

The dude edition version rocks!

On Jul 22, 2017 5:00 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> My friend Tom Smyth has one.
>
> Ether11-13 was always funky in one way or another on the AHx2s.
>
> I'm still waiting for the AHx4 without the Dude crap. I don't need my
> router to have extra SATA ports, an SSD, etc.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"George Skorup" 
> *To: *"Animal Farm" 
> *Sent: *Saturday, July 22, 2017 4:50:22 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] RB1100AHx4
>
> Anybody using this yet? Is it stable? Will it run 6.38.7/bugfix or does
> it require current or RC?
>
> Had two AHx2's die last night. Did have two NIB spares that I've been
> sitting on for over a year. One of them, apparently the fans don't work
> at all and ether13 is funky, but that's typically my SiteMonitor base
> port, and it does work at 10/half, just takes about 10 seconds to link
> up. That one is in a temp controlled shack as well, so good nuf.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Be careful with 3650 (was CBRS in trouble)

[Adair Winter]

this is exactly right. LTE only works as good as it works because of the
little bit of advantage you get from the LTE protocol/scheduler and because
3.65Ghz is generally a much quieter band. as soon as your introduce noise,
it all does start to break down.

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:

> It’s “magic” in that LTE is very good when interference is very low - as
> it often is when you have complete control of the frequency like a cell
> carrier does.   The noise floor at the CPE buried in trees isn’t likely to
> increase greatly as others move into CBRS, but the noise floor at the AP is
> likely to reach the point that you will never hear the return path from
> NLOS clients (or even LOS clients with poor signals).
>
> Mark
>
> > On Jul 21, 2017, at 5:13 PM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote:
> >
> > On 7/21/17 13:49, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
> >> I’m very concerned that many of you are installing NLOS services and
> counting on being able to continue to provide service use extremely low
> signal levels.   I routinely see posts of people installing LTE customers
> at very low signal levels.  This is not going to continue to work well when
> the base station is faced with significant noise.
> >
> >
> > Generally speaking, it seems like a lot of people came to believe that
> the 3.65 band was a magical "NLOS band".
> >
> > ~Seth
>
>


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Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Inquiry: Product Compatibility

[Adair Winter]

I've never used the mentioned module, but we do use the Radwin 5000 JET
radios with other MTC modules and they have been fine.

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Radwin or Raytheon? :)
>
> On Tuesday, July 18, 2017, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> Anyone use our stuff with Radeon?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> *From:* "Donnie McCorkle" <dmccor...@atcjet.net>
>> *Date:* July 18, 2017 at 12:48:17 PM MDT
>> *To:* "sa...@wbmfg.com" <sa...@wbmfg.com>
>> *Subject:* *Inquiry: Product Compatibility*
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am wondering if you have tested your Surge Suppressor/PoE Injector
>> (800-GigE-PoE-APC) with any Radwin Base station equipment.
>>
>>
>>
>> We have tested other DC PoE Equipment that fails to power up these radios
>> as some PoE injectors seem to test the power pairs to detect the variations
>> in the PoE standard.  As such they fail to power these radios.  I can
>> provide technical contact information for Radwin if necesary.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Donnie
>>
>>


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C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT

[Adair Winter]

What hold times were you seeing with serverplus? They claim they are low
and have some pretty detailed stats that seem to agree.

On Jul 11, 2017 8:40 AM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We went with GTC instead, primarily due to hold times and the fact that S+
> routes calls overseas during overflow.  We have an out in our contract if
> hold times ever exceed a set average, or if they ever route our calls
> outside the states or to any third party.  We also use Powercode and have
> been extremely pleased with them, but every call center will require
> training to get them to do things the way that you want.  I think how they
> adapt to your wants and needs over time is the real indicator of how they
> are as a customer service entity.  Ticketing is one of the big training
> items that will differ with every ISP.  (ie; when to open tickets, when to
> close tickets, when they should have resolved something on the phone
> instead of opening a ticket, etc.)  Scheduling is the other thing that we
> likely all do a bit differently.  I'd say give it time, and work with them
> to fine tune it to your way of doing things.  If they do not adapt well, I
> know another company that does
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 7:01 AM, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net
> > wrote:
>
>> I really don't follow much of your line of thinking here. Can you be more
>> clear about what your trying to accomplish or what the problem is?
>>
>> We use powercode and enjoy it. Are looking at server plus but haven't
>> switched yet.
>>
>>
>> On Jul 10, 2017 10:48 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I also meant offlist, not OT
>>>
>>> On Jul 10, 2017 10:31 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh yeah, the powercode ticket vs the email ticket formatting is night
>>>> and day awful, why bother with an api if you cant actually tell what the
>>>> heck is happening. ... and the  api generated ticket cant be reassigned for
>>>> the customer, though i believe thats a powercode issue... and given the
>>>> "new" powercode, i dont see that getting fixedsimon... simon, where are
>>>> you?
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 10, 2017 10:27 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Im not sure how they pay, but it looks alot like when we used to
>>>> comission new sales, a new account for each call based on who answered the
>>>> phone if thats tje case, comission calls, then why bother
>>>>
>>>> Ive seen multiple existing tickets restarted... bad juju on that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anybody know if they actually look at existing tickets?
>>>>
>>>> Closing and resolving unresolved issues is bad business for me too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Im thinking its just a matter of getiing on the same page, but if
>>>> others have had similar issues and found workarounds ... or walked away,
>>>> please let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Serverplus was not my first choice for an outsourced it, so i may be
>>>> jaded.
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 10, 2017 10:13 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not impressed, a short time in, by any means. Serverplus guys, no
>>>>> offense, i need info to make this work outside a retention response. I 
>>>>> know
>>>>> luthman uses them, but anyone else with powercode, please OT me so i can
>>>>> find out whats broke on our side before i have the boss talk.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT

[Adair Winter]

I really don't follow much of your line of thinking here. Can you be more
clear about what your trying to accomplish or what the problem is?

We use powercode and enjoy it. Are looking at server plus but haven't
switched yet.


On Jul 10, 2017 10:48 PM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:

> I also meant offlist, not OT
>
> On Jul 10, 2017 10:31 PM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:
>
>> Oh yeah, the powercode ticket vs the email ticket formatting is night and
>> day awful, why bother with an api if you cant actually tell what the heck
>> is happening. ... and the  api generated ticket cant be reassigned for the
>> customer, though i believe thats a powercode issue... and given the "new"
>> powercode, i dont see that getting fixedsimon... simon, where are you?
>>
>> On Jul 10, 2017 10:27 PM, "Steve Jones" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Im not sure how they pay, but it looks alot like when we used to
>> comission new sales, a new account for each call based on who answered the
>> phone if thats tje case, comission calls, then why bother
>>
>> Ive seen multiple existing tickets restarted... bad juju on that.
>>
>>
>> Anybody know if they actually look at existing tickets?
>>
>> Closing and resolving unresolved issues is bad business for me too.
>>
>>
>> Im thinking its just a matter of getiing on the same page, but if others
>> have had similar issues and found workarounds ... or walked away, please
>> let me know.
>>
>> Serverplus was not my first choice for an outsourced it, so i may be
>> jaded.
>>
>> On Jul 10, 2017 10:13 PM, "Steve Jones" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Not impressed, a short time in, by any means. Serverplus guys, no
>>> offense, i need info to make this work outside a retention response. I know
>>> luthman uses them, but anyone else with powercode, please OT me so i can
>>> find out whats broke on our side before i have the boss talk.
>>>
>>
>>

[AFMUG] Text messaging services

[Adair Winter]

I'm looking for a service that will allow me to load in lists of numbers to
send text messages to. I'd like to be able to manage the lists from a web
gui or possible integrate with some CRM. I'd like for the users to be able
to unsubscribe from the texts by sending STOP or whatever.

Does anyone have any experience with such a beast?

-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Hiring in the Colorado Springs Area

[Adair Winter]

I'll have him check. Thanks!

On Jun 30, 2017 6:13 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Old school it guys, assuming they are accepting of the virtual workplace,
> are ideal remote guys, contract, etc. He might find progent com an ideal
> fit
>
> On Jun 30, 2017 5:12 PM, "Adair Winter" <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
> wrote:
>
> I have a customer who is an IT Professional who is incredible good with
> networking, cisco and other infrastructure. He currently works for an IT
> company that does crop insurance readjusting and wants to move to Colorado.
> Specifically the Colorado Springs area. (really he's open to anything but
> Denver) He is an older gentleman, so he's uber reliable. :)
>
> If anyone would like to get in touch with him, please reach out to me and
> I'll put you in touch.
>
> Thanks
>
> --
>
> Adair Winter
> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
> http://www.amarillowireless.net
> <http://www.amarillowireless.net>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Hiring in the Colorado Springs Area

[Adair Winter]

Cool. Will do. Thanks!

On Jun 30, 2017 7:14 PM, "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:

> We'd be interested in talking to him.  We are in steamboat springs, co.
>
> Please have him send his resume to res...@zirkel.us and he can CC me at
> s...@zirkel.us
>
> -Sean Heskett
> Zirkel Wireless
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 4:12 PM Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I have a customer who is an IT Professional who is incredible good with
>> networking, cisco and other infrastructure. He currently works for an IT
>> company that does crop insurance readjusting and wants to move to Colorado.
>> Specifically the Colorado Springs area. (really he's open to anything but
>> Denver) He is an older gentleman, so he's uber reliable. :)
>>
>> If anyone would like to get in touch with him, please reach out to me and
>> I'll put you in touch.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Adair Winter
>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
>> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
>> http://www.amarillowireless.net
>> <http://www.amarillowireless.net>
>>
>>
>>

[AFMUG] Anyone Hiring in the Colorado Springs Area

[Adair Winter]

I have a customer who is an IT Professional who is incredible good with
networking, cisco and other infrastructure. He currently works for an IT
company that does crop insurance readjusting and wants to move to Colorado.
Specifically the Colorado Springs area. (really he's open to anything but
Denver) He is an older gentleman, so he's uber reliable. :)

If anyone would like to get in touch with him, please reach out to me and
I'll put you in touch.

Thanks

-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Diplexers

[Adair Winter]

Might be worth a shot!
I'll see what I can dig up.

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> A couple of years ago ,we installed an Exalt link for city of Midland PD.
> They had several diplexers extra due to mix up.  Not sure if they kept
> them...we left them with head of IT at main court house building.  Long
> shot...
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Jun 27, 2017 6:54 PM, "Adair Winter" <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for a set of Band 1 diplexers for Exalt ExtendAir G2. Anyone
>> have any they want to sell?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Adair Winter
>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
>> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
>> http://www.amarillowireless.net
>> <http://www.amarillowireless.net>
>>
>>
>>


-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Diplexers

[Adair Winter]

Oh yes, I suppose that would be good info to have..

11Ghz Band 1.

Good catch, sorry about that!

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 8:43 PM, Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Band 1 of which frequency range?
>
> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 7:54 PM, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net
> > wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for a set of Band 1 diplexers for Exalt ExtendAir G2. Anyone
>> have any they want to sell?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Adair Winter
>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
>> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
>> http://www.amarillowireless.net
>> <http://www.amarillowireless.net>
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

[AFMUG] Exalt Diplexers

[Adair Winter]

I'm looking for a set of Band 1 diplexers for Exalt ExtendAir G2. Anyone
have any they want to sell?

-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Cloud Router Switch and 1Gbps

[Adair Winter]

No way.. Cat5 maybe. Who uses that? I would assume he means cat5e. Which
should have no trouble holding 1g link at 300+ feet.

At a previous job a customer didn't want to put fiber in to a remote
building so we pulled cat5e 550'. The only test that failed on the fluke
dtx-1800 was length.


On Jun 21, 2017 6:57 PM, "Chris Wright"  wrote:

> Gigabit on Cat5 is only good for about 80 feet.
>
> Chris Wright
> Network Administrator
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 4:51 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Cloud Router Switch and 1Gbps
>
> We use a lot of these Mikrotik 24 port rack mount switches.  Does anyone
> else have trouble getting there copper ethernet ports to hold 1Gbps
> connections on around 150 foot cat-5 runs with APC surge arrestors?
>
> I have had this issue with PMP450i gear doing sync over power but now I am
> having the issue with SAF Lumina gear as well and there is no sync over
> power there.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 1Gb 12 miles

[Adair Winter]

This is not a good idea unless you live somewhere it never rains.

On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 8:34 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> if you can find another hop in the middle of the link do two AF24HD links
> at 6 miles each
>
> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 5:53 AM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Link aGgregate 2 AF11x links, both have to have epic and 80 mhz channels
>>
>> On 6/9/17, 9:51 PM, "Af on behalf of Brett A Mansfield"
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> <af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I think it might be.
>> >
>> >Thank you,
>> >Brett A Mansfield
>> >
>> >> On Jun 9, 2017, at 7:32 PM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
>>
>> >>wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Is this a case of you can have fast, cheap and reliable but you can
>> >>only pick 2?
>> >>
>> >> Brett A Mansfield wrote:
>> >>> I have no specific preference. But I need it soon, I need 2Gb
>> >>>aggregate, and I need it cheap (which is relative). I know I may have
>> >>>to give one of those up, but I'm trying not to have to.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you,
>> >>> Brett A Mansfield
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Jun 9, 2017, at 5:34 PM, Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com
>> >>>><mailto:cstann...@gmail.com <cstann...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 11 / 15 / 18ghz depending on your uptime, rain zone, dish size
>> >>>>requirements or limitations. Two single polarity radios or one XPIC...
>> >>>>Any preferred licensed manifacturer?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Jun 9, 2017 6:27 PM, "Brett A Mansfield"
>> >>>><li...@silverlakeinternet.com <mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com
>> <li...@silverlakeinternet.com>>>
>> >>>>wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>What would be the best (and cheapest) way of transmitting a gig
>> >>>>(2Gb aggregate) 12 miles?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Thank you,
>> >>>>Brett A Mansfield
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>> source=link
>> >>>_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient>Virus-free.
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>> >>>_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient>
>> >>>
>> >>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>> >>
>>
>>
>


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Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] 1Gb 12 miles

[Adair Winter]

SIAE Alfoplus2 is 1.4Gb in 2x80mhz channels. Its less than $20k all in.

On Jun 9, 2017 6:27 PM, "Brett A Mansfield" 
wrote:

> What would be the best (and cheapest) way of transmitting a gig (2Gb
> aggregate) 12 miles?
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield