Re: [AFMUG] OT solar ad

[SmarterBroadband]

Ah… yes see it now.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2018 10:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT solar ad

 

I think it must have been in the subject line I guess.  

 

48 cents per watt

 

From: SmarterBroadband 

Sent: Friday, June 1, 2018 11:26 AM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT solar ad

 

I don’t see any prices?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 4:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT solar ad

 

Gotta love the prices these days.  

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

[SmarterBroadband]

I do 3 after a full stop. 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Monday, May 7, 2018 6:09 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

 

Im a rebel,  I use 3 spaces after a dot!   2 spaces after a coma!   Lol!

 

From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of
"li...@packetflux.com  " mailto:li...@packetflux.com> >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com  " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Date: Monday, May 7, 2018 at 8:04 AM
To: "af@afmug.com  " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

 

I like spaces. 

 

But I want my tab key to add the correct amount of spaces for the indent.

 

Fortunately it seems that most editors I use to edit code have a setting to
do just that.  The ones that don't are a pain in the rear since I'm not
consistent in the use of tabs vs spaces since I expect my editor to do the
right thing and treat the tab key as a 'insert a few spaces for me' key.

 

As far as single or double spaces... well, I'm a double spacing person when
I type, even though I know that a single space is considered 'better'
anymore due to modern typefaces inserting the correct amount of space with
only a single space.   HTML also ignores double spaces by default, so most
of the web runs on single spaces.

 


 

Gino A. Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 8:25 PM, Robert mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> > wrote:

Trivial stuff, the real meat is tabs versus spaces while programming...

On 5/6/18 7:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Double spacers of the world unite.  Everybody else can get the fu*k off our
lawn.

-Original Message- From: ja...@remotelylocated.com
 
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 8:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

You can tell someone's age by one or two spaces.  For me that is what I was
taught and bugs the hell out of me when I see single space.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 6, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I remember there being a rather exuberant discussion a couple years ago
about the advantages/disadvantages and goodness/badness of putting a single
space after a sentence versus putting two spaces. The debate rages on, but
this one study suggests that putting two spaces makes sentences easier to
read.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2018/05/04/one-sp
ace-between-each-sentence-they-said-science-just-proved-them-wrong-2/?noredi
rect=on
 &utm_term=.b61d35728d29



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Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

[SmarterBroadband]

Sec sheet says;

2048QAM   -52
1024QAM   -56

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 5:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

On 4/19/18 4:49 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
> Dragonwave say 31dBm Tx power at 20148QAM on their new harmony HP in 18Ghz


With what RX sensitivity at those parameters?

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

[SmarterBroadband]

Have done, both below 20 dBm

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 6:21 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

 

Check Aviat and SIAE also 

Jon Langeler

Michwave Technologies, Inc.

 


On Apr 19, 2018, at 8:55 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

Yes, in so much as I don’t want to pay the extra $100 plus per month for each 
foot of dish…..

 

If there is a 2 foot solution I want to find it.   As I said Dragonwave will 
work but I don’t want to wait.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 3:03 PM
To: Motorola III mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

 

Are you restricted in antenna size at both ends? If one could be larger, that 
would get you the range.




--

bp

part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 3:01 PM, Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I think he needs a bigger channel size than you can do in 6GHz.




--

bp

part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists mailto:jeffl...@att.net> > wrote:

Yeah, I’m not aware of that change in 6GHz.

 

Have you checked with Comsearch to see about 11GHz.  Liz is my go-to, but 
Comsearch has access to information no one else seems to have.

Jeff Broadwick

CTIconnect

312-205-2519 Office

574-220-7826 Cell

jbroadw...@cticonnect.com <mailto:jbroadw...@cticonnect.com> 


On Apr 19, 2018, at 5:27 PM, Faisal Imtiaz mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net> > wrote:

>>>Fcc changed the rules.  You can do 2’ in 6ghz now.

 

Can you please share the ref where and when this was changed ? 

 

Thanks.

 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
http://www.snappytelecom.net

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net> 

 


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From: "Sean Heskett" mailto:af...@zirkel.us> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 4:59:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

Fcc changed the rules.  You can do 2’ in 6ghz now.

 

Why are you limited to 2’ dishes??

 

Can you do a 2’ and 3’ (or 4’)??

 

What you are trying to do breaks the laws of physics no matter who’s equipment 
you use.  

 

Sean

 

 

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 1:42 PM SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

Love to but 11 GHz is all gone.   I don’t think you can do 2 foot dishes at 6 
GHz?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 3:51 PM


To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

 

 

what rain zone are you in?

 

yes our link is in 18GHz

 

honestly if you need 1gbps with 4.5 nines with 2' dishes at 6 miles you 
probably need to look at 11GHz or 6GHz instead of 18GHz.

 

-sean

 

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 4:08 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

Cambium 820's will be down to around 400 meg at 4.5 nines.

We want the link to hold 1 Gig at 4.5 nines.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

What does link planner say you need?

Five nines I presume?

bp


On 4/18/2018 1:12 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

> Yes, looking at both.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On 
> Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:44 PM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity
>
> On 4/18/18 12:31 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>> SAF seems to have the lowest output power I have seen….  Especially 
>> the G and GS.
>

> I would look at the RX sensitivity tables.
>

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

[SmarterBroadband]

Thanks.

 

I remember the 3 foot ruling.   Never heard of a 2 foot rule, and yes I had 
forgotten the minimum distance requirement.

 

It seems the 5Km rule is being ignored, I am sure people are reporting short 
links with AF11…..

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 3:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

 

Yeah, no. The minimum diameter in the L6 band is 3-foot and >/=70dB F/B ratio. 
I believe only a few Radiowaves and Andrew/CommScope high-performance dishes 
meet that spec. I believe that was part of the same change that allowed 60MHz 
channel bandwidth.

The upper 6GHz band is still limited to 30MHz channels and 6-foot or larger 
antennas.

Also, the minimum path length for both lower and upper 6GHz bands is 17km. 
11GHz is 5km. I believe there are special considerations and waivers to this 
for things like public safety agencies and such.

On 4/19/2018 4:27 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

>>>Fcc changed the rules.  You can do 2’ in 6ghz now.

 

Can you please share the ref where and when this was changed ? 

 

Thanks.

 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
http://www.snappytelecom.net

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net> 

 


  _  


From: "Sean Heskett"  <mailto:af...@zirkel.us> 
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 4:59:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

Fcc changed the rules.  You can do 2’ in 6ghz now.

 

Why are you limited to 2’ dishes??

 

Can you do a 2’ and 3’ (or 4’)??

 

What you are trying to do breaks the laws of physics no matter who’s equipment 
you use.  

 

Sean

 

 

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 1:42 PM SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

Love to but 11 GHz is all gone.   I don’t think you can do 2 foot dishes at 6 
GHz?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 3:51 PM


To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

 

 

what rain zone are you in?

 

yes our link is in 18GHz

 

honestly if you need 1gbps with 4.5 nines with 2' dishes at 6 miles you 
probably need to look at 11GHz or 6GHz instead of 18GHz.

 

-sean

 

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 4:08 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

Cambium 820's will be down to around 400 meg at 4.5 nines.

We want the link to hold 1 Gig at 4.5 nines.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

What does link planner say you need?

Five nines I presume?

bp


On 4/18/2018 1:12 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
> Yes, looking at both.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On 
> Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:44 PM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity
>
> On 4/18/18 12:31 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>> SAF seems to have the lowest output power I have seen….  Especially 
>> the G and GS.
>

> I would look at the RX sensitivity tables.
>

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

[SmarterBroadband]

Have not tried Comsearch, Liz says no 80 MHz channels.   30 and 40 MHz channels 
available but that wont do the throughput I need.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 2:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

 

Yeah, I’m not aware of that change in 6GHz.

 

Have you checked with Comsearch to see about 11GHz.  Liz is my go-to, but 
Comsearch has access to information no one else seems to have.

Jeff Broadwick

CTIconnect

312-205-2519 Office

574-220-7826 Cell

jbroadw...@cticonnect.com <mailto:jbroadw...@cticonnect.com> 


On Apr 19, 2018, at 5:27 PM, Faisal Imtiaz mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net> > wrote:

>>>Fcc changed the rules.  You can do 2’ in 6ghz now.

 

Can you please share the ref where and when this was changed ? 

 

Thanks.

 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
http://www.snappytelecom.net

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net> 

 


  _  


From: "Sean Heskett" mailto:af...@zirkel.us> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 4:59:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

Fcc changed the rules.  You can do 2’ in 6ghz now.

 

Why are you limited to 2’ dishes??

 

Can you do a 2’ and 3’ (or 4’)??

 

What you are trying to do breaks the laws of physics no matter who’s equipment 
you use.  

 

Sean

 

 

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 1:42 PM SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

Love to but 11 GHz is all gone.   I don’t think you can do 2 foot dishes at 6 
GHz?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 3:51 PM


To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

 

 

what rain zone are you in?

 

yes our link is in 18GHz

 

honestly if you need 1gbps with 4.5 nines with 2' dishes at 6 miles you 
probably need to look at 11GHz or 6GHz instead of 18GHz.

 

-sean

 

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 4:08 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

Cambium 820's will be down to around 400 meg at 4.5 nines.

We want the link to hold 1 Gig at 4.5 nines.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

What does link planner say you need?

Five nines I presume?

bp


On 4/18/2018 1:12 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
> Yes, looking at both.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On 
> Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:44 PM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity
>
> On 4/18/18 12:31 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>> SAF seems to have the lowest output power I have seen….  Especially 
>> the G and GS.
>

> I would look at the RX sensitivity tables.
>

 

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

[SmarterBroadband]

Yes, in so much as I don’t want to pay the extra $100 plus per month for each 
foot of dish…..

 

If there is a 2 foot solution I want to find it.   As I said Dragonwave will 
work but I don’t want to wait.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 3:03 PM
To: Motorola III 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

 

Are you restricted in antenna size at both ends? If one could be larger, that 
would get you the range.




--

bp

part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 3:01 PM, Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I think he needs a bigger channel size than you can do in 6GHz.




--

bp

part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists mailto:jeffl...@att.net> > wrote:

Yeah, I’m not aware of that change in 6GHz.

 

Have you checked with Comsearch to see about 11GHz.  Liz is my go-to, but 
Comsearch has access to information no one else seems to have.

Jeff Broadwick

CTIconnect

312-205-2519 Office

574-220-7826 Cell

jbroadw...@cticonnect.com <mailto:jbroadw...@cticonnect.com> 


On Apr 19, 2018, at 5:27 PM, Faisal Imtiaz mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net> > wrote:

>>>Fcc changed the rules.  You can do 2’ in 6ghz now.

 

Can you please share the ref where and when this was changed ? 

 

Thanks.

 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
http://www.snappytelecom.net

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net> 

 


  _  


From: "Sean Heskett" mailto:af...@zirkel.us> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 4:59:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

Fcc changed the rules.  You can do 2’ in 6ghz now.

 

Why are you limited to 2’ dishes??

 

Can you do a 2’ and 3’ (or 4’)??

 

What you are trying to do breaks the laws of physics no matter who’s equipment 
you use.  

 

Sean

 

 

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 1:42 PM SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

Love to but 11 GHz is all gone.   I don’t think you can do 2 foot dishes at 6 
GHz?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 3:51 PM


To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

 

 

what rain zone are you in?

 

yes our link is in 18GHz

 

honestly if you need 1gbps with 4.5 nines with 2' dishes at 6 miles you 
probably need to look at 11GHz or 6GHz instead of 18GHz.

 

-sean

 

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 4:08 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

Cambium 820's will be down to around 400 meg at 4.5 nines.

We want the link to hold 1 Gig at 4.5 nines.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

What does link planner say you need?

Five nines I presume?

bp


On 4/18/2018 1:12 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

> Yes, looking at both.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On 
> Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:44 PM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity
>
> On 4/18/18 12:31 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>> SAF seems to have the lowest output power I have seen….  Especially 
>> the G and GS.
>

> I would look at the RX sensitivity tables.
>

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

[SmarterBroadband]

“What you are trying to do breaks the laws of physics no matter who’s equipment 
you use.”

 

Not necessarily, Dragonwave say 31dBm Tx power at 20148QAM on their new harmony 
HP in 18Ghz.   That gets me my 4.5 nines (most vendors today are 19 dBm or 
lower).   33 dBm at 512QAM!!!   However not available in 80 Mhz channels until 
end of year. 

 

I was hoping someone else would come close.

 

If 2 foot OK in 6GHz that would help with a much longer link I had given up on 
(again no 11GHz).

 

Thanks

 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 2:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

 

Fcc changed the rules.  You can do 2’ in 6ghz now.

 

Why are you limited to 2’ dishes??

 

Can you do a 2’ and 3’ (or 4’)??

 

What you are trying to do breaks the laws of physics no matter who’s equipment 
you use.  

 

Sean

 

 

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 1:42 PM SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

Love to but 11 GHz is all gone.   I don’t think you can do 2 foot dishes at 6 
GHz?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 3:51 PM


To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

 

what rain zone are you in?

 

yes our link is in 18GHz

 

honestly if you need 1gbps with 4.5 nines with 2' dishes at 6 miles you 
probably need to look at 11GHz or 6GHz instead of 18GHz.

 

-sean

 

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 4:08 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

Cambium 820's will be down to around 400 meg at 4.5 nines.

We want the link to hold 1 Gig at 4.5 nines.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

What does link planner say you need?

Five nines I presume?

bp


On 4/18/2018 1:12 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
> Yes, looking at both.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On 
> Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:44 PM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity
>
> On 4/18/18 12:31 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>> SAF seems to have the lowest output power I have seen….  Especially 
>> the G and GS.
>

> I would look at the RX sensitivity tables.
>

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

[SmarterBroadband]

Love to but 11 GHz is all gone.   I don’t think you can do 2 foot dishes at 6 
GHz?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 3:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

 

what rain zone are you in?

 

yes our link is in 18GHz

 

honestly if you need 1gbps with 4.5 nines with 2' dishes at 6 miles you 
probably need to look at 11GHz or 6GHz instead of 18GHz.

 

-sean

 

 

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 4:08 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

Cambium 820's will be down to around 400 meg at 4.5 nines.

We want the link to hold 1 Gig at 4.5 nines.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

What does link planner say you need?

Five nines I presume?

bp


On 4/18/2018 1:12 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
> Yes, looking at both.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On 
> Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:44 PM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity
>
> On 4/18/18 12:31 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>> SAF seems to have the lowest output power I have seen….  Especially 
>> the G and GS.
>

> I would look at the RX sensitivity tables.
>

 

Re: [AFMUG] unimus pricing? ouch

[SmarterBroadband]

+1 for Oxidized.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Cassidy B. Larson
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 12:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] unimus pricing? ouch

 

Why not Oxidized or Rancid?  We use Oxidized in-house. Free. Does all my
Ciscos, Netonix, Mikrotik, and more.






 

On Apr 19, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote:

 

https://unimus.net/download/Changelog.txt



-
Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
 


 
  Midwest Internet Exchange
 

 
  The Brothers WISP
 
 





  _  


From: "Steve Jones" mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >
To: af@afmug.com  
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 1:58:58 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] unimus pricing? ouch

Unimus has been on my todo list for some time, had a site router croak out,
thought "self, you had set up that unimus test server some time ago, you got
this"

 

well, self had only purchased 10 perpetual devices and it wont start

 

so i scurry over to the website to get around to buying the whole shooting
match. I see they heeded my advice, the inexpensive perpetual licence model
just wasnt viable.

 

Prices are where I thought they should be back when I was concerned about
how cheap it was, but now cheap me is hitting me in the sack for not getting
some more of those perpetual keys

 

I assume this product has only gotten better (even though it was pretty
awesome at the time)?

 

4.5 per device a year doesnt seem unreasonable for peace of mind. Am I
wrong?

 

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

[SmarterBroadband]

Cambium 820's will be down to around 400 meg at 4.5 nines.

We want the link to hold 1 Gig at 4.5 nines.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

What does link planner say you need?

Five nines I presume?

bp


On 4/18/2018 1:12 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
> Yes, looking at both.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:44 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity
>
> On 4/18/18 12:31 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>> SAF seems to have the lowest output power I have seen….  Especially 
>> the G and GS.
>
> I would look at the RX sensitivity tables.
>

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

[SmarterBroadband]

I have the charts.   Your 6 mile links in 18?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

 

Download the integra spec sheet and it has all the tx power and recieve 
sensitivity for all the models, channel sizes and QAM levels in charts on the 
last few pages.

 

We have a lot of 6 mile SAF integra-W links on 2’ dishes that have no problem 
even in heavy summer downpours.  We are in NW ColoRADo.

 

-Sean

 

 

 

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 1:47 PM SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

I don’t see any mention of HP versions.

Can you point me in the right direction?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Sean Heskett

Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:55 PM


To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

 

There’s a HP version of the G and the W is even louder that that.

 

How far are you trying to shoot and why are you limited to 2’ dishes??

 

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:31 PM SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

SAF seems to have the lowest output power I have seen….  Especially the G and 
GS.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 11:58 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

 

SAF integra g or w

 

 

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 3:50 PM SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

We are looking to install a couple of 18GHz License Links and are restricted to 
2 foot antennas.   Therefore I need the best output power and Rx sensitivity 
available today.

 

Both Dragonwave and Bridgewave are touting HP versions but neither will be 
available for months.   Maybe longer.

 

So what is available off the shelf today?   I am checking vendors spec sheets 
but If you know of a higher powered radio please let me know.

 

Thanks

 

Adam

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

[SmarterBroadband]

I would be OK with four and a half nines at max mod.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

What does link planner say you need?

Five nines I presume?

bp


On 4/18/2018 1:12 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
> Yes, looking at both.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:44 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity
>
> On 4/18/18 12:31 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>> SAF seems to have the lowest output power I have seen….  Especially 
>> the G and GS.
>
> I would look at the RX sensitivity tables.
>

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

[SmarterBroadband]

I don’t see any mention of HP versions.

Can you point me in the right direction?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

 

There’s a HP version of the G and the W is even louder that that.

 

How far are you trying to shoot and why are you limited to 2’ dishes??

 

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:31 PM SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

SAF seems to have the lowest output power I have seen….  Especially the G and 
GS.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 11:58 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

 

SAF integra g or w

 

 

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 3:50 PM SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

We are looking to install a couple of 18GHz License Links and are restricted to 
2 foot antennas.   Therefore I need the best output power and Rx sensitivity 
available today.

 

Both Dragonwave and Bridgewave are touting HP versions but neither will be 
available for months.   Maybe longer.

 

So what is available off the shelf today?   I am checking vendors spec sheets 
but If you know of a higher powered radio please let me know.

 

Thanks

 

Adam

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

[SmarterBroadband]

5.5 miles

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

 

There’s a HP version of the G and the W is even louder that that.

 

How far are you trying to shoot and why are you limited to 2’ dishes??

 

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:31 PM SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

SAF seems to have the lowest output power I have seen….  Especially the G and 
GS.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 11:58 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

 

SAF integra g or w

 

 

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 3:50 PM SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

We are looking to install a couple of 18GHz License Links and are restricted to 
2 foot antennas.   Therefore I need the best output power and Rx sensitivity 
available today.

 

Both Dragonwave and Bridgewave are touting HP versions but neither will be 
available for months.   Maybe longer.

 

So what is available off the shelf today?   I am checking vendors spec sheets 
but If you know of a higher powered radio please let me know.

 

Thanks

 

Adam

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

[SmarterBroadband]

Yes, looking at both.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

On 4/18/18 12:31 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
> SAF seems to have the lowest output power I have seen….  Especially 
> the G and GS.


I would look at the RX sensitivity tables.

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

[SmarterBroadband]

SAF seems to have the lowest output power I have seen….  Especially the G and 
GS.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 11:58 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

 

SAF integra g or w

 

 

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 3:50 PM SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

We are looking to install a couple of 18GHz License Links and are restricted to 
2 foot antennas.   Therefore I need the best output power and Rx sensitivity 
available today.

 

Both Dragonwave and Bridgewave are touting HP versions but neither will be 
available for months.   Maybe longer.

 

So what is available off the shelf today?   I am checking vendors spec sheets 
but If you know of a higher powered radio please let me know.

 

Thanks

 

Adam

[AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

[SmarterBroadband]

We are looking to install a couple of 18GHz License Links and are restricted
to 2 foot antennas.   Therefore I need the best output power and Rx
sensitivity available today.

 

Both Dragonwave and Bridgewave are touting HP versions but neither will be
available for months.   Maybe longer.

 

So what is available off the shelf today?   I am checking vendors spec
sheets but If you know of a higher powered radio please let me know.

 

Thanks

 

Adam

Re: [AFMUG] Dual slant yagi

[SmarterBroadband]

KP

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 8:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Dual slant yagi

What is your favorite dual slant yagi for the Cambium 450i 900MHz radios?

Re: [AFMUG] OT: IM Services

[SmarterBroadband]

Slack

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:26 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: IM Services

With the demise of AIM, and not being on any social media sites, what's 
available for Instant messaging apps these days?  Basically so I can send the 
boss Hyperlinks without having to do everything through email 
while we're on an intercom call.It looks like Trillian.im offers a 
service that is ad free for $2/user/mo  But I thought I saw that there was a 
$10 minimum somewhere.

Nate

[AFMUG] CTI Towers

[SmarterBroadband]

Has anyone done a lease with CTI Towers?

 

How were they to work with, pricing, etc?

 

Anyone purchased a tower from them?

 

Thanks

 

Adam

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

[SmarterBroadband]

OK first this UPS does NOT SNMP.

 

However that said the APC BG500 (APC Back-UPS Pro 500) with Lithium Ion
batteries is a nice little unit that comes with built in ethernet.   It does
have email alerting which you could use to send Text alerts to your phones.
We like them for micro sites.

 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Justin Marshall
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

 

Hi,

 

Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS's that can be monitored via
SNMP over ethernet?

Something non-rack mountable and that doesn't require external batteries?

Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary
programs like Powerchute, etc.

 

Thanks,

Justin

 

Re: [AFMUG] N-connector Patch Cables

[SmarterBroadband]

I like Shireen.

Made to order with epoxy heat shrink.

Adam

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 2:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] N-connector Patch Cables

Where is an economical place to order quality N to N ~rg-58 patch cables 18-24 
inches?

Re: [AFMUG] Question for the collective...

[SmarterBroadband]

Dragonwave-X Harmony Enhanced HP. 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:59 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Question for the collective...

 

Someone (I forget who) was claiming their high power (34 dBm) 18 GHz radios 
would reach just as far as many 11 GHz radios.



-
Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
   
  
  
 
  Midwest Internet Exchange
   
  
 
  The Brothers WISP
   
 




  _  

From: "Jaime Solorza" mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >
To: "Animal Farm" mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 9:33:50 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Question for the collective...

Going to have a meeting with company that has a 1GBps feed to office from 
CenturyLink.   They have four remote locations (4.1, 4.4, 6.2 and 9.1 miles ) 
from office.   All are west and with a 60 degree span if I was using a sectored 
antenna.  On email, they indicated they want licensed links and want to deliver 
1GBps to each location. Not sure if they are adding more CenturyLink feeds to 
provide 1Gig to each site.  I wonder what you guys would recommend?  I know 
it's a energy company and Pecan farm outfit in eastern  NM.  Let's say they 
have good budget , dazzle me with your suggestions? 

Jaime Solorza

 

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[SmarterBroadband]

This looks sweet, the AP is at a good price point.   The CPE at $500 will not 
work for us, needs to be at $120 to $150.

 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:27 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

 

Not 50 feet.  ;-)

 

https://www.ignitenet.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/MetroLinq-10G-Omni-datasheet.pdf

 

The range depends on the client used so it ranges from 150m to 700m.  Keep in 
mind this isn't a 120 degree fixed sector - it has beamforming so the actual 
beam is 8 degrees horizontal by 32 degrees vertical - it moves to the client it 
is talking to at that particular moment in time.

 

-Hal

 

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:04 PM Robert Andrews mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> > wrote:

50 feet... :)

On 02/20/2018 09:59 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
> Yikes. What is the range on the 60GHz @ 120 degrees?
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Bill Prince   
>  >> wrote:
>
> 3 * 120° at 60 GHz
>
> 1 360°  at 5 GHz
>
> 1 360° at 2.4 GHz
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 2/20/2018 9:13 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>
> What's the beamwidth on this?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[SmarterBroadband]

This looks sweet, the AP is at a good price point.   The CPE at 4500 will not 
work for us, needs to be at $120 to $150.

 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:27 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

 

Not 50 feet.  ;-)

 

https://www.ignitenet.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/MetroLinq-10G-Omni-datasheet.pdf

 

The range depends on the client used so it ranges from 150m to 700m.  Keep in 
mind this isn't a 120 degree fixed sector - it has beamforming so the actual 
beam is 8 degrees horizontal by 32 degrees vertical - it moves to the client it 
is talking to at that particular moment in time.

 

-Hal

 

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:04 PM Robert Andrews mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> > wrote:

50 feet... :)

On 02/20/2018 09:59 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
> Yikes. What is the range on the 60GHz @ 120 degrees?
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Bill Prince   
>  >> wrote:
>
> 3 * 120° at 60 GHz
>
> 1 360°  at 5 GHz
>
> 1 360° at 2.4 GHz
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 2/20/2018 9:13 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>
> What's the beamwidth on this?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] UPS

[SmarterBroadband]

If you are talking AC we have been using APC BG500 for small sites.
Lithium-ion battery.  Has ethernet built in, you can remotely switch a
couple of ports and off load some ports if on battery.

Adam

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 9:49 AM
To: 'af@afmug.com' 
Subject: [AFMUG] UPS

I use Alpha FXM1100 for my fiber cabinets and four external batteries.

I need something a bit less for a smaller wall mount cabinet.

What are people using now days for small WISP cabinet UPS?

I need to power maybe a couple of 11W routers/switches and maybe 3-6 radios
at around 10W peak each.

So maybe 150W power draw keep alive for a few hours.

Would be good if it's temperature tolerant and network manageable.

Re: [AFMUG] UPS

[SmarterBroadband]

Where will you buy them?

 

A google search brings up Anixter where it says;

 

This item has been discontinued and is unavailable for purchase. Contact an 
Anixter representative for possible alternatives.

 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 11:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS

 

I think we're just going to move to the Cordex PSU because we seem to be right 
at the edge of outgrowing the BCMU's at nearly every site.

On 2/21/2018 12:01 PM, Josh Baird wrote:

There is always this: 

 

https://www.alpha.ca/solutions/solutions-alpha-catalog/standard-systems/dc-power-solutions/item/cordex-psu

 

For smaller sites, we usually roll a Meanwell PSU/Traco UPS solution.  For 150W 
@ 24/48V, this is certainly what I would do.

 

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson mailto:sterl...@avative.net> > wrote:

I use Alpha FXM1100 for my fiber cabinets and four external batteries.

I need something a bit less for a smaller wall mount cabinet.

What are people using now days for small WISP cabinet UPS?

I need to power maybe a couple of 11W routers/switches and maybe 3-6 radios at 
around 10W peak each.

So maybe 150W power draw keep alive for a few hours.

Would be good if it's temperature tolerant and network manageable.



 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

[SmarterBroadband]

😊

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 10:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

 

I could use some help, if you're $free.  ;-)



-
Mike Hammett
 <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions
 <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>  
<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>  
<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> 
 <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange
 <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>  
<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> 
 <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP
 <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>  
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> 




  _  

From: "SmarterBroadband" mailto:li...@sbb.net> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 12:28:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

No I mean I am free in June….

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> 
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 12:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

 

I am thinking of free.  Freeish.  

 

From: SmarterBroadband 

Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 1:26 PM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

 

Free…..

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> 
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 11:21 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

 

May or June?

 

From: SmarterBroadband 

Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 12:09 PM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

 

I will be there (as long as dates are free)…..

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> 
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM
To: af mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

 

I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark 
venue.  

I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one.  

I have modified the afmug.com page a bit reflecting that something is going to 
happen.  

 

All but the home page.

I cannot find that in the wordpress back end.  

 

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 

Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM

To: af 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

 

I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 
'barcamp' would be interesting.  The WISPA conferences aren't really set up 
well to handle this type of thing. 

 

Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout 
rooms/areas.   The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting 
topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space 
and a time.   For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on 
the agenda.   For larger groups, you of course need more space since there 
tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the 
agenda.   In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading 
it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned.

 

I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something 
like this  I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the 
initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done 
correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing 
process).

 

 

 

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > wrote:

Chuck,  

 

I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play 
around with some stuff? 

 

TJ

 

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Red Iguana

 

We could do it kinda like it started.  

 

Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever 
shows up shows up.  

 

Not sure what Wispa would think about that...

 

From: Cameron Crum 

Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

 

I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder 
days in...oh, and the conference was good too. 

 

 

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote:

and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. 



-
Mike Hammett
 <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions
 <https://www.facebook.co

Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

[SmarterBroadband]

No I mean I am free in June….

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 12:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

 

I am thinking of free.  Freeish.  

 

From: SmarterBroadband 

Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 1:26 PM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

 

Free…..

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> 
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 11:21 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

 

May or June?

 

From: SmarterBroadband 

Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 12:09 PM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

 

I will be there (as long as dates are free)…..

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> 
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM
To: af mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

 

I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark 
venue.  

I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one.  

I have modified the afmug.com page a bit reflecting that something is going to 
happen.  

 

All but the home page.

I cannot find that in the wordpress back end.  

 

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 

Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM

To: af 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

 

I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 
'barcamp' would be interesting.  The WISPA conferences aren't really set up 
well to handle this type of thing. 

 

Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout 
rooms/areas.   The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting 
topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space 
and a time.   For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on 
the agenda.   For larger groups, you of course need more space since there 
tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the 
agenda.   In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading 
it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned.

 

I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something 
like this  I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the 
initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done 
correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing 
process).

 

 

 

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > wrote:

Chuck,  

 

I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play 
around with some stuff? 

 

TJ

 

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Red Iguana

 

We could do it kinda like it started.  

 

Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever 
shows up shows up.  

 

Not sure what Wispa would think about that...

 

From: Cameron Crum 

Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

 

I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder 
days in...oh, and the conference was good too. 

 

 

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote:

and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. 



-
Mike Hammett
 <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions
 <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>  
<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>  
<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> 
 <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange
 <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>  
<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> 
 <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP
 <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>  
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> 





  _  


From: "Jay Weekley" mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA 
shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year.

Chuck McCown wrote:
> It can be done.  We outsourced much of it once we got the process 
> down.  But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they 
> think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica.
> Two shows, same seas

Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

[SmarterBroadband]

Free…..

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 11:21 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

 

May or June?

 

From: SmarterBroadband 

Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 12:09 PM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

 

I will be there (as long as dates are free)…..

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> 
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM
To: af mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

 

I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark 
venue.  

I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one.  

I have modified the afmug.com page a bit reflecting that something is going to 
happen.  

 

All but the home page.

I cannot find that in the wordpress back end.  

 

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 

Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM

To: af 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

 

I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 
'barcamp' would be interesting.  The WISPA conferences aren't really set up 
well to handle this type of thing. 

 

Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout 
rooms/areas.   The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting 
topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space 
and a time.   For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on 
the agenda.   For larger groups, you of course need more space since there 
tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the 
agenda.   In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading 
it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned.

 

I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something 
like this  I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the 
initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done 
correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing 
process).

 

 

 

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > wrote:

Chuck,  

 

I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play 
around with some stuff? 

 

TJ

 

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Red Iguana

 

We could do it kinda like it started.  

 

Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever 
shows up shows up.  

 

Not sure what Wispa would think about that...

 

From: Cameron Crum 

Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

 

I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder 
days in...oh, and the conference was good too. 

 

 

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote:

and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. 



-
Mike Hammett
 <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions
 <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>  
<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>  
<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> 
 <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange
 <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>  
<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> 
 <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP
 <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>  
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> 





  _  


From: "Jay Weekley" mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA 
shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year.

Chuck McCown wrote:
> It can be done.  We outsourced much of it once we got the process 
> down.  But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they 
> think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica.
> Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other...
> So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track.  Same format as before.  
> Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff.  And I 
> don’t have to do much other than MC the event.
> *From:* TJ Trout
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
> Chuck,
> How feasible would it be to br

Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

[SmarterBroadband]

I will be there (as long as dates are free)…..

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

 

I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark 
venue.  

I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one.  

I have modified the afmug.com page a bit reflecting that something is going to 
happen.  

 

All but the home page.

I cannot find that in the wordpress back end.  

 

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 

Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM

To: af 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

 

I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 
'barcamp' would be interesting.  The WISPA conferences aren't really set up 
well to handle this type of thing. 

 

Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout 
rooms/areas.   The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting 
topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space 
and a time.   For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on 
the agenda.   For larger groups, you of course need more space since there 
tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the 
agenda.   In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading 
it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned.

 

I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something 
like this  I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the 
initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done 
correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing 
process).

 

 

 

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > wrote:

Chuck,  

 

I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play 
around with some stuff? 

 

TJ

 

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Red Iguana

 

We could do it kinda like it started.  

 

Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever 
shows up shows up.  

 

Not sure what Wispa would think about that...

 

From: Cameron Crum 

Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

 

I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder 
days in...oh, and the conference was good too. 

 

 

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote:

and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. 



-
Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
   
  
  
 
  Midwest Internet Exchange
   
  
 
  The Brothers WISP
   
 





  _  


From: "Jay Weekley" mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net> >
To: af@afmug.com  
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA 
shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year.

Chuck McCown wrote:
> It can be done.  We outsourced much of it once we got the process 
> down.  But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they 
> think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica.
> Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other...
> So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track.  Same format as before.  
> Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff.  And I 
> don’t have to do much other than MC the event.
> *From:* TJ Trout
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com  
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
> Chuck,
> How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the 
> unpalatable parts of planning?
> Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off into 
> wispa I haven't attended since...
> Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ 
> wispamerica in 20 days?
> TJ
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz 
> mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net> > wrote:
>
> >>My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect...
> Thus the need for a fuse !
> :)
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232   
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518   
>  Option 2 or
>

Re: [AFMUG] UCC

[SmarterBroadband]

Yes, and I can not get them to stop charging me…

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 9:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] UCC

 

I have a particular carrier that charges me UCC on point-to-point circuits 
within the same state in a blanket fashion and then each time I turn up a new 
circuit I have to go back and realize that they are charging me UCC and get 
them to revise the contract each and every time. UCC is not do unless the 
point-to-point crosses state lines. 

 

I encourage everybody that has a point to point to look at their billing and 
make sure they're not paying exorbitant extra taxes. The difference is 12% 
versus 35% with this specific carrier. 

 

Has anybody else encountered the same issue before?

 

TJ

Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion

[SmarterBroadband]

Good to know…

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 1:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion

 

Careful.  Packetflux PDU can't do positive ground.  So no -48.  Found that out 
the hard way.

If neither the load or the power supply has a ground on the positive wire then 
you're good to go.

 

When I connected 3 Telrad Compacts (positive ground) nothing exploded, but you 
couldn't actually switch any of them off.  If I turned off one port, the load 
moved to one of the other ports.  

 

 

-- Original Message --

From: "Josh Baird" mailto:joshba...@gmail.com> >

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 

Sent: 1/31/2018 3:03:25 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion

 

PacketFlux (PDU) would be able to power cycle DC powered radios.  This is 
likely what we'll be doing for Baicells eNB's.

 

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 2:58 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

I have been looking at ICT.   The ICT600-48SBC Power Supply and the 
ICT200DF-12IRC distribution panel.   This with a Netonix would do everything.  
We have sites with Telrad so the distribution panel will allow them to be power 
cycled when necessary.

 

Anyone using ICT?  Bit pricy though, looking at $1,600 plus…

 

Need a solution where we can power cycle DC powered radios.

 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of can...@believewireless.net <mailto:can...@believewireless.net> 
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 3:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion

 

It's a little spendy but about how about 1 $670 option? Alpha Cordex PSU 24V 
400W. 

Remote monitoring, e-mailed alerts, swappable rectifier, DIN mount, etc. 

Add a Netonix switch and you can power just about anything.​

 

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:49 PM, Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Any of you folks who know both dc plant and even more know small wisp budget 
interested in looking at our gear and power setup and giving realistic advice 
that doesnt have a 10 different 500 dollar components combined with a full time 
linux guy and a full time coder?

 

Id love you to do it out of the kindness of your heart, but i do have some 
advisory busget.

 

Im just tired of the apc ups waste and super ghetto runtimes on batteries 
coupled with having to accept we are destroying runtimes by letting the apcs 
die. please, somebody, please. Otherwise i have to go to the facebook 
groups, and thats like going to a mikrotik or ubnt forum.

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion

[SmarterBroadband]

Is that the modular one?   Looks like that one unit loaded with one 700 watt 
PSU is about the same as the two units I am looking at.   Just which fits the 
environment best.

 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 2:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion

 

The ICT -48 Unit I have has a 4 position toggle switch breaker…the breakers can 
be remote tripped via the easy to use web interface.  You could get away with 
that instead of the distribution panel.

 

Cheers,

 

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

1-866-727-4138 x-600

 <http://www.silowireless.com/> http://www.silowireless.com

Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

 

Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of:

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From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of 
Dustin Jurman mailto:dus...@rseng.net> >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Date: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 5:19 PM
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion

 

We have been playing with some of these in -48 and IDC Netonix.  Working very 
well.  

 

DSJ

 

From: Af [ <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 2:58 PM
To:  <mailto:af@afmug.com> af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion

 

I have been looking at ICT.   The ICT600-48SBC Power Supply and the 
ICT200DF-12IRC distribution panel.   This with a Netonix would do everything.  
We have sites with Telrad so the distribution panel will allow them to be power 
cycled when necessary.

 

Anyone using ICT?  Bit pricy though, looking at $1,600 plus…

 

Need a solution where we can power cycle DC powered radios.

 

Adam

 

From: Af [ <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of  <mailto:can...@believewireless.net> can...@believewireless.net
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 3:51 AM
To:  <mailto:af@afmug.com> af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion

 

It's a little spendy but about how about 1 $670 option? Alpha Cordex PSU 24V 
400W. 

Remote monitoring, e-mailed alerts, swappable rectifier, DIN mount, etc. 

Add a Netonix switch and you can power just about anything.​

 

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:49 PM, Steve Jones < 
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

Any of you folks who know both dc plant and even more know small wisp budget 
interested in looking at our gear and power setup and giving realistic advice 
that doesnt have a 10 different 500 dollar components combined with a full time 
linux guy and a full time coder?

 

Id love you to do it out of the kindness of your heart, but i do have some 
advisory busget.

 

Im just tired of the apc ups waste and super ghetto runtimes on batteries 
coupled with having to accept we are destroying runtimes by letting the apcs 
die. please, somebody, please. Otherwise i have to go to the facebook 
groups, and thats like going to a mikrotik or ubnt forum.

 

Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion

[SmarterBroadband]

Hmmm  not enough power, the Telrad BTS draw up to 100 watts, some of our sites 
have 6 units.

I suppose we could have two PDU with 3 on each….

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 12:23 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion

 

Yep, the PacketFlux PDU is perfect for that. We have a couple of Baicells eNBs 
running off them.

 

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 2:03 PM, Josh Baird mailto:joshba...@gmail.com> > wrote:

PacketFlux (PDU) would be able to power cycle DC powered radios.  This is 
likely what we'll be doing for Baicells eNB's.

 

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 2:58 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

I have been looking at ICT.   The ICT600-48SBC Power Supply and the 
ICT200DF-12IRC distribution panel.   This with a Netonix would do everything.  
We have sites with Telrad so the distribution panel will allow them to be power 
cycled when necessary.

 

Anyone using ICT?  Bit pricy though, looking at $1,600 plus…

 

Need a solution where we can power cycle DC powered radios.

 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of can...@believewireless.net <mailto:can...@believewireless.net> 
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 3:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion

 

It's a little spendy but about how about 1 $670 option? Alpha Cordex PSU 24V 
400W. 

Remote monitoring, e-mailed alerts, swappable rectifier, DIN mount, etc. 

Add a Netonix switch and you can power just about anything.​

 

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:49 PM, Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Any of you folks who know both dc plant and even more know small wisp budget 
interested in looking at our gear and power setup and giving realistic advice 
that doesnt have a 10 different 500 dollar components combined with a full time 
linux guy and a full time coder?

 

Id love you to do it out of the kindness of your heart, but i do have some 
advisory busget.

 

Im just tired of the apc ups waste and super ghetto runtimes on batteries 
coupled with having to accept we are destroying runtimes by letting the apcs 
die. please, somebody, please. Otherwise i have to go to the facebook 
groups, and thats like going to a mikrotik or ubnt forum.

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Rodeo networks IPTV

[SmarterBroadband]

What is the deal with Viva?  What can they provide?  How well is it working…

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 6:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rodeo networks IPTV

 

We are working with Viva Entertainment.

 

Rory

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chris Fabien
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 6:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rodeo networks IPTV

 

I would wait a few months and check back, I think (hope) they are getting close 
but have zero trust in anything they are telling me that I can't see/verify. If 
there was something with similar capabilities in terms of pricing/channels we 
would have bailed long ago, but I couldn't find another option that I thought 
would work for my customers. 

 

On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Sean Heskett mailto:af...@zirkel.us> > wrote:

Hi Chris,

 

thanks for your feedback.  I've heard similar experiences from others which is 
now making me gun shy.  I like their pricing and channel lineup but if they 
can't deliver then it really doesn't matter much.

 

-sean

 

 

On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Chris Fabien mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com> > wrote:

They are NOT ready to launch yet. They have been signing resellers up for close 
to a year and they are still building a proper headend with adequate bandwidth 
to provide the service. We signed with them in March, still don't have anything 
we can sell.  The product has promise and they give you the flexibility to 
create your own channel lineup so you can really offer a good value to your 
customers, but the months and months of excuses and poor communication have us 
about ready to throw in the towel on it. I can discuss more offlist if you 
like. 

 

Chris Fabien

LakeNet LLC

 

 

On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Sean Heskett mailto:af...@zirkel.us> > wrote:

Hello AF gang,

 

We are looking at potentially going with Rodeo Networks IPTV solution on our 
network but I wanted to first ask the group if anyone has any experience with 
them.  If so would you be willing to discuss (either on-list or off-list) your 
experience.

 

Thanks!

 

-Sean

 

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Dragonwave status

[SmarterBroadband]

I spoke with them at Wispapalooza and they said they have been bought and are 
on a firm footing and good to go.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 4:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dragonwave status

 

I haven't seen any signs of them slowing down.



-
Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
   
  
  
 
  Midwest Internet Exchange
   
  
 
  The Brothers WISP
   
 




  _  

From: "Steve Jones" mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >
To: af@afmug.com  
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 9:13:15 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Dragonwave status

Are these guys done, or are they in an Alvarion status, or what? rock solid 
gear, im trying to talk the boss into the resale/used/overstock market. 

 

Re: [AFMUG] SIC code?

[SmarterBroadband]

Hmmm   I went for 517312.

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tushar Patel
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 8:09 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] SIC code?

 

Hi,

 

What sic code we should be using?

 

Is it this?

NAICS Code 517919 - All Other Telecommunications

If not that what else?

 

Thanks,

Tushar

 

[AFMUG] Telrad Compact 1000 Repair

[SmarterBroadband]

We have a Telrad Compact 1000 that needs repairing.

 

Do you know of anyone doing this?

 

Thanks

 

Adam

 

Re: [AFMUG] Network Engineer Opportunity

[SmarterBroadband]

We never feel a thing here in the foothills….

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:20 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Network Engineer Opportunity

 

5.7 Earthquake in Northern California reported today...wonder if it is part of 
Mexico quake system...El Paso is on a fault system but I only remember one 
minor one in 60's as a kid.   We have several dormant volcanoes nearby.  One 
set is where astronauts trained for moon landings. So we are more than just 
great food, Tecate and me!!!

 

On Sep 19, 2017 3:21 PM, "SmarterBroadband" mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

SmarterBroadband is looking to hire a Network Engineer.  We are located in 
rural Northern California in the Sierra foothills about 2 hours from Lake Tahoe 
and 45 minutes from Sacramento, a beautiful area to live.  The successful 
candidate will take responsibility for the design and maintenance of our 
network.   The network currently uses Cisco routers and switches, Mikrotik, 
Netonix, Exalt, Ceragon, Cambium 450 and ePMP, Procera, Telrad WiMAX and LTE.  
We are currently implementing Sonar.   Protocols in use include BGP, iBGP, 
MPLS, OSPF and VPLS.  We are looking for someone who is fast on their feet, 
loves to learn new things, willing to take on new challenges and who wants to 
become a key member of the team.   

If you are interested please send an Email with your resume to jobs ( at ) 
smarterbroadband.com <http://smarterbroadband.com> .

 

[AFMUG] Hold on Gino....

[SmarterBroadband]

Maria must have be giving you hell.

No power on the island!!!

Hold on and Good luck.

[AFMUG] Network Engineer Opportunity

[SmarterBroadband]

SmarterBroadband is looking to hire a Network Engineer.  We are located in
rural Northern California in the Sierra foothills about 2 hours from Lake
Tahoe and 45 minutes from Sacramento, a beautiful area to live.  The
successful candidate will take responsibility for the design and maintenance
of our network.   The network currently uses Cisco routers and switches,
Mikrotik, Netonix, Exalt, Ceragon, Cambium 450 and ePMP, Procera, Telrad
WiMAX and LTE.  We are currently implementing Sonar.   Protocols in use
include BGP, iBGP, MPLS, OSPF and VPLS.  We are looking for someone who is
fast on their feet, loves to learn new things, willing to take on new
challenges and who wants to become a key member of the team.   

If you are interested please send an Email with your resume to jobs ( at )
smarterbroadband.com.

 

Re: [AFMUG] Document scanners

[SmarterBroadband]

I like my

 

Fujitsu ScanSnap iX500 Wireless Desktop Scanner

 

Auto feed, scans both sides, scans to PDF, straightens crooked scans, OCRs so 
fully searchable PDF.

 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 7:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Document scanners

 

Any recommendations on these? There is a 5 year old thread I found where Neat 
and Fujitsu were recommended - nothing newer though. 

[AFMUG] American Towers

[SmarterBroadband]

Hi

 

Not happy American Towers are asking for a 4% per year escalator.  What have
people got them down to?

 

Reply off list if you don't want to be seen sharing this info.

 

Thanks

 

Adam

Re: [AFMUG] Trace Route by port tool

[SmarterBroadband]

Hmmm I am not a Linux guy.  Will have to take a look.

It looks like there is a windows version but it needs a few things loaded first.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 12:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trace Route by port tool

 

there's a tcptraceroute tool available for Linux.

 

apt-get install tcptraceroute on Debian type systems

 

 

 

-- Original Message --

From: "Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> >

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 

Sent: 8/7/2017 3:22:18 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trace Route by port tool

 

I don’t think you can.  I would try ping or telnet along with tracert to prove 
some ports work.  

 

From: SmarterBroadband 

Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 1:19 PM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: [AFMUG] Trace Route by port tool

 

Anyone know of any tool that can do a trace route with a port number?  

 

We have an issue where micro cells have stopped working on some our network.  
They use some specific ports.  I want to Trace Route out and see where a 
specific port is being blocked.

 

Is this possible?

 

[AFMUG] Trace Route by port tool

[SmarterBroadband]

Anyone know of any tool that can do a trace route with a port number?  

 

We have an issue where micro cells have stopped working on some our network.
They use some specific ports.  I want to Trace Route out and see where a
specific port is being blocked.

 

Is this possible?

 

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

[SmarterBroadband]

Any members using Cablefree Licensed Links?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Patrick
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

Dear all,

 

Apologies I've only just seen this post,

A small input from CableFree. Aware we are a vendor so only leaving a short 
post.

 

The CableFree FOR3 product line is popular with ISPs in some countries.

Available in many bands including 11GHz (and other bands 5-26GHz, including 24 
UL, if interested)

 

www.cablefree.net/for3 <http://www.cablefree.net/for3> 

 

Up to 880Mbps full duplex using 1024QAM, single polarisation, and 112MHz 
spectrum.

You can of course set the radio to narrower channels, for example 440Mbps full 
duplex in 56MHz.

This is a "telecom design" FDD radio with separate transmit/receive channels, 
so you get symmetric links up/down and low latency.

 

Comments & questions welcome -

Best regards

Stephen

 

On 31 May 2017 at 16:58, Kurt Fankhauser mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

How many usable 11ghz channels are there? I looked on the Mimosa cloud map and 
only one other 11ghz registered link in my area and it doesn't appear to be in 
path with any of my towers.

 

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Dennis Burgess mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net> > wrote:

Yep, called links :)   

 

 

Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant 

 <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> MikroTik 
Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE

 

For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit  <http://www.linktechs.net/> 
www.linktechs.net

Radio Frequency Coverages:  <http://www.towercoverage.com/> 
www.towercoverage.com 

Office: 314-735-0270  

E-Mail:  <mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net> dmburg...@linktechs.net 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:09 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

We are on TowerCoverage.  I did not know it did path calcs.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 9:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

Towercoverage.com has done 11ghz for years :)  

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Hardy, Tim
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 6:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

Found this on ubnt forum - can't comment on accuracy.  FYI, we use PathLoss.

https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber/New-AF11FX-Link-Calculator/m-p/1741139#M32848


  _  


From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of 
SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> >
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:17:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences 

 

Well I suppose I could, but hell I don’t want to.. 😊

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 2:22 PM
To: af mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

I think they have that stuff in airlink, but you can always just look up the 
spec sheets for all the relevant parts and calculate it manually.

 

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 4:18 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

I can use Link Planner to check LOS.  But the 820 in Link Planner will have 
very different radio Tx powers and receive sensitivities.

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:07 PM
To: af mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

I think airlink,ubnt.com <http://ubnt.com>  supports 11ghz now, so that can be 
used to get a fairly good idea of what it's going to do... also, Mimosa's tool 
is pretty nice.

But when you know you have a clear path and what the distance is, it's not very 
hard to calculate what the link is going to do... frequency planning is done by 
your coordinator.

 

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 2:59 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

Using?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:55 PM
To: af mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

DIY

 

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 1:45 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

How are you Link Planning your AF11 links?

 

Does UBNT do link Planning?

 

Reseller?

 

DIY?

 

Other??

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:43 PM
To: af mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

[SmarterBroadband]

We are on TowerCoverage.  I did not know it did path calcs.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 9:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

Towercoverage.com has done 11ghz for years :)  

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Hardy, Tim
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 6:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

Found this on ubnt forum - can't comment on accuracy.  FYI, we use PathLoss.

https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber/New-AF11FX-Link-Calculator/m-p/1741139#M32848

  _  

From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of 
SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> >
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:17:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences 

 

Well I suppose I could, but hell I don’t want to.. 😊

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 2:22 PM
To: af mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

I think they have that stuff in airlink, but you can always just look up the 
spec sheets for all the relevant parts and calculate it manually.

 

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 4:18 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

I can use Link Planner to check LOS.  But the 820 in Link Planner will have 
very different radio Tx powers and receive sensitivities.

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:07 PM
To: af mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

I think airlink,ubnt.com <http://ubnt.com>  supports 11ghz now, so that can be 
used to get a fairly good idea of what it's going to do... also, Mimosa's tool 
is pretty nice.

But when you know you have a clear path and what the distance is, it's not very 
hard to calculate what the link is going to do... frequency planning is done by 
your coordinator.

 

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 2:59 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

Using?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:55 PM
To: af mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

DIY

 

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 1:45 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

How are you Link Planning your AF11 links?

 

Does UBNT do link Planning?

 

Reseller?

 

DIY?

 

Other??

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:43 PM
To: af mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

We have one up... other than some very ugly issues right after we put it up 
(which was apparently a bug in the firmware they shipped with... upgrading to 
the latest beta firmware fixed it), it has been working perfectly, and I 
haven't touched it since. 

The AF11 is certainly worth a look in my opinion, but it all depends on what 
you need it to do.

 

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Jon Langeler mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net> > wrote:

Ignoring a few software bugs and delayed fixes, it's good for '2nd string' 
links. If this is for high priority link, I'd try SIAE or Cambium. 

Jon Langeler

Michwave Technologies, Inc.

 


On May 25, 2017, at 2:46 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

We are looking to add some more Licensed Links to our network.

 

Does anyone actually have the AF11 in service.  Is it worth a look?  How is it 
performing for you?  Any issues?

 

Just not sure if it is worth considering or should I be looking at existing 
companied like;

 

Exalt ?

Dragonwave ?

SAIE ?

 

Or newer ones like

 

Alcoma

Cablefree FOR3

 

Anyone tried the last two?

 

Just looking for best bang for the buck in non core ring usage.

 

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

[SmarterBroadband]

Well I suppose I could, but hell I don’t want to.. 😊

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 2:22 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

I think they have that stuff in airlink, but you can always just look up the 
spec sheets for all the relevant parts and calculate it manually.

 

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 4:18 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

I can use Link Planner to check LOS.  But the 820 in Link Planner will have 
very different radio Tx powers and receive sensitivities.

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:07 PM
To: af mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

I think airlink,ubnt.com <http://ubnt.com>  supports 11ghz now, so that can be 
used to get a fairly good idea of what it's going to do... also, Mimosa's tool 
is pretty nice.

But when you know you have a clear path and what the distance is, it's not very 
hard to calculate what the link is going to do... frequency planning is done by 
your coordinator.

 

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 2:59 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

Using?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:55 PM
To: af mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

DIY

 

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 1:45 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

How are you Link Planning your AF11 links?

 

Does UBNT do link Planning?

 

Reseller?

 

DIY?

 

Other??

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:43 PM
To: af mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

We have one up... other than some very ugly issues right after we put it up 
(which was apparently a bug in the firmware they shipped with... upgrading to 
the latest beta firmware fixed it), it has been working perfectly, and I 
haven't touched it since. 

The AF11 is certainly worth a look in my opinion, but it all depends on what 
you need it to do.

 

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Jon Langeler mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net> > wrote:

Ignoring a few software bugs and delayed fixes, it's good for '2nd string' 
links. If this is for high priority link, I'd try SIAE or Cambium. 

Jon Langeler

Michwave Technologies, Inc.

 


On May 25, 2017, at 2:46 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

We are looking to add some more Licensed Links to our network.

 

Does anyone actually have the AF11 in service.  Is it worth a look?  How is it 
performing for you?  Any issues?

 

Just not sure if it is worth considering or should I be looking at existing 
companied like;

 

Exalt ?

Dragonwave ?

SAIE ?

 

Or newer ones like

 

Alcoma

Cablefree FOR3

 

Anyone tried the last two?

 

Just looking for best bang for the buck in non core ring usage.

 

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

[SmarterBroadband]

I can use Link Planner to check LOS.  But the 820 in Link Planner will have 
very different radio Tx powers and receive sensitivities.

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:07 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

I think airlink,ubnt.com <http://ubnt.com>  supports 11ghz now, so that can be 
used to get a fairly good idea of what it's going to do... also, Mimosa's tool 
is pretty nice.

But when you know you have a clear path and what the distance is, it's not very 
hard to calculate what the link is going to do... frequency planning is done by 
your coordinator.

 

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 2:59 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

Using?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:55 PM
To: af mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

DIY

 

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 1:45 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

How are you Link Planning your AF11 links?

 

Does UBNT do link Planning?

 

Reseller?

 

DIY?

 

Other??

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:43 PM
To: af mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

We have one up... other than some very ugly issues right after we put it up 
(which was apparently a bug in the firmware they shipped with... upgrading to 
the latest beta firmware fixed it), it has been working perfectly, and I 
haven't touched it since. 

The AF11 is certainly worth a look in my opinion, but it all depends on what 
you need it to do.

 

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Jon Langeler mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net> > wrote:

Ignoring a few software bugs and delayed fixes, it's good for '2nd string' 
links. If this is for high priority link, I'd try SIAE or Cambium. 

Jon Langeler

Michwave Technologies, Inc.

 


On May 25, 2017, at 2:46 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

We are looking to add some more Licensed Links to our network.

 

Does anyone actually have the AF11 in service.  Is it worth a look?  How is it 
performing for you?  Any issues?

 

Just not sure if it is worth considering or should I be looking at existing 
companied like;

 

Exalt ?

Dragonwave ?

SAIE ?

 

Or newer ones like

 

Alcoma

Cablefree FOR3

 

Anyone tried the last two?

 

Just looking for best bang for the buck in non core ring usage.

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

[SmarterBroadband]

Liz does the coordination.  But we need to calculate the antenna size need to 
have an 4 or 5 nines link.

 

Normally I would use the manufacture i.e. exalt or Ceragon.

 

Or if Ceragon or Cambium use Link Planner.

 

Who or What is there for AF11?

  

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

Liz Creekmore at IntelPath.

 

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:59 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

Using?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:55 PM
To: af mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

DIY

 

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 1:45 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

How are you Link Planning your AF11 links?

 

Does UBNT do link Planning?

 

Reseller?

 

DIY?

 

Other??

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:43 PM
To: af mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

We have one up... other than some very ugly issues right after we put it up 
(which was apparently a bug in the firmware they shipped with... upgrading to 
the latest beta firmware fixed it), it has been working perfectly, and I 
haven't touched it since. 

The AF11 is certainly worth a look in my opinion, but it all depends on what 
you need it to do.

 

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Jon Langeler mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net> > wrote:

Ignoring a few software bugs and delayed fixes, it's good for '2nd string' 
links. If this is for high priority link, I'd try SIAE or Cambium. 

Jon Langeler

Michwave Technologies, Inc.

 


On May 25, 2017, at 2:46 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

We are looking to add some more Licensed Links to our network.

 

Does anyone actually have the AF11 in service.  Is it worth a look?  How is it 
performing for you?  Any issues?

 

Just not sure if it is worth considering or should I be looking at existing 
companied like;

 

Exalt ?

Dragonwave ?

SAIE ?

 

Or newer ones like

 

Alcoma

Cablefree FOR3

 

Anyone tried the last two?

 

Just looking for best bang for the buck in non core ring usage.

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

[SmarterBroadband]

Using?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:55 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

DIY

 

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 1:45 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

How are you Link Planning your AF11 links?

 

Does UBNT do link Planning?

 

Reseller?

 

DIY?

 

Other??

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:43 PM
To: af mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

We have one up... other than some very ugly issues right after we put it up 
(which was apparently a bug in the firmware they shipped with... upgrading to 
the latest beta firmware fixed it), it has been working perfectly, and I 
haven't touched it since. 

The AF11 is certainly worth a look in my opinion, but it all depends on what 
you need it to do.

 

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Jon Langeler mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net> > wrote:

Ignoring a few software bugs and delayed fixes, it's good for '2nd string' 
links. If this is for high priority link, I'd try SIAE or Cambium. 

Jon Langeler

Michwave Technologies, Inc.

 


On May 25, 2017, at 2:46 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

We are looking to add some more Licensed Links to our network.

 

Does anyone actually have the AF11 in service.  Is it worth a look?  How is it 
performing for you?  Any issues?

 

Just not sure if it is worth considering or should I be looking at existing 
companied like;

 

Exalt ?

Dragonwave ?

SAIE ?

 

Or newer ones like

 

Alcoma

Cablefree FOR3

 

Anyone tried the last two?

 

Just looking for best bang for the buck in non core ring usage.

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

[SmarterBroadband]

How are you Link Planning your AF11 links?

 

Does UBNT do link Planning?

 

Reseller?

 

DIY?

 

Other??

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:43 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

We have one up... other than some very ugly issues right after we put it up 
(which was apparently a bug in the firmware they shipped with... upgrading to 
the latest beta firmware fixed it), it has been working perfectly, and I 
haven't touched it since. 

The AF11 is certainly worth a look in my opinion, but it all depends on what 
you need it to do.

 

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Jon Langeler mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net> > wrote:

Ignoring a few software bugs and delayed fixes, it's good for '2nd string' 
links. If this is for high priority link, I'd try SIAE or Cambium. 

Jon Langeler

Michwave Technologies, Inc.

 


On May 25, 2017, at 2:46 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

We are looking to add some more Licensed Links to our network.

 

Does anyone actually have the AF11 in service.  Is it worth a look?  How is it 
performing for you?  Any issues?

 

Just not sure if it is worth considering or should I be looking at existing 
companied like;

 

Exalt ?

Dragonwave ?

SAIE ?

 

Or newer ones like

 

Alcoma

Cablefree FOR3

 

Anyone tried the last two?

 

Just looking for best bang for the buck in non core ring usage.

 

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

[SmarterBroadband]

Good to hear.

Are you using 2 foot or 3 foot dishes?

Any issues with the N connectors at all?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:58 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

We have about 5 deployed, no issues so far. 

 

From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of
SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Date: Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 2:46 PM
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

 

We are looking to add some more Licensed Links to our network.

 

Does anyone actually have the AF11 in service.  Is it worth a look?  How is
it performing for you?  Any issues?

 

Just not sure if it is worth considering or should I be looking at existing
companied like;

 

Exalt ?

Dragonwave ?

SAIE ?

 

Or newer ones like

 

Alcoma

Cablefree FOR3

 

Anyone tried the last two?

 

Just looking for best bang for the buck in non core ring usage.


 

Gino A. Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

[SmarterBroadband]

We are looking to add some more Licensed Links to our network.

 

Does anyone actually have the AF11 in service.  Is it worth a look?  How is
it performing for you?  Any issues?

 

Just not sure if it is worth considering or should I be looking at existing
companied like;

 

Exalt ?

Dragonwave ?

SAIE ?

 

Or newer ones like

 

Alcoma

Cablefree FOR3

 

Anyone tried the last two?

 

Just looking for best bang for the buck in non core ring usage.

Re: [AFMUG] 24V Battery Revert and Charge Module

[SmarterBroadband]

>From the specs it looks like the BCMU360 only supports a 12v battery?

Is this correct?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 3:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V Battery Revert and Charge Module

 

List price on the BCMU360 is about $215 IIRC. I think we pay about $175 from
PSUI. Plus $15 for the temp probe.

Are you asking run time? I have a couple with 40Ah of battery attached. A
few with about 90W load have ran for over four hours, but they never went
down, utility came back. A couple others with ~190-220W. Lost utility at one
of the sites the other day. It was running for about an hour and a half
before I brought a portable gen out. That site didn't go down either.
Couldn't let it, too much traffic. And of course utility came back 15
minutes after I got the generator going.

On 5/20/2017 4:51 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:

How much are you paying for the Traco and how long does it last?

On 5/20/17, 4:44 PM, "Af on behalf of George Skorup" mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> 


�

Gino A. Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



on behalf of george.sko...@cbcast.com  >
wrote:

>Mean Well AD-155B
>or
>Mean Well SDR-240-24 + DR-UPS40
>or
>Mean Well SDR-240-24 (or 48) + Traco BCMU360 (jumper selectable for 24
>or 48) - I use this combo most often. The BCMU360 is only good for ~240W
>continuous.
>
>All this stuff is fine until you start looking to deploy things that are
>power hungry like 450m's @ 70W, LTE eNB's that pull 60-100W each,
>multiple AF24s or licensed radios, etc. Then you need big-boy
>rectifiers, which aren't all that expensive, but they aren't cheap
>either. Add good telco-grade batteries on top and it's easily 10x the
>cost of what we're used to with the smaller stuff.
>
>On 5/20/2017 1:16 PM, Matt wrote:
>> What is everyone using for switching from AC to battery backup at sites?
>>
>> I normally have our other guy take care of that part.� But we normally
>> have a DIN mount 24V power supply, a DIN mount packetflux site monitor
>> that monitors power supply output and battery voltage and some DIN
>> mount module that does charging and switching between the two.� Also
>> have a 24V to 48V converter to power our 450i etc stuff.
>>
>> Monitor the site monitor with SNMP and start emailing alarms if power
>> supply voltage drops.� Also graph power supply and battery voltage
>> with MRTG.
>>
>> Curious what others are using here?
>

 

Re: [AFMUG] 24V Battery Revert and Charge Module

[SmarterBroadband]

Hi Mark

 

We have never used a Rectifier Shelf.  Is it an all in one solution, AC in DC 
out power for equipment and integrated battery charging?

 

Thanks

 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 6:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V Battery Revert and Charge Module

 

720W site?   That’s some serious power.   At that point it’s time for a real 
rectifier shelf - call these guys:  

 

http://telecomsurplus.net/power/rectifiers/

 

They have a pretty good collection of Eltek rectifiers that would handle that 
load nicely.

 

Mark

 

 

 

On May 21, 2017, at 9:02 AM, Jesse Dupont mailto:jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> > wrote:

 

Well, that is a concern. I think we'll be under 30A after all is said and done 
and the DR-UPS40 handles 40A. Downside would be the 2A charging rate. I should 
note this site will have an automatic standby generator so we won't need a huge 
battery string.

 

  _  

From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of 
Gino A. Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> >
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 4:47:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V Battery Revert and Charge Module

 

How do you plan to connect to batteries for this setup ?

 

From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of 
Jesse Dupont mailto:jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com  " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Date: Saturday, May 20, 2017 at 7:07 PM
To: "af@afmug.com  " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V Battery Revert and Charge Module

 

The Meanwell SDR-480P-24 and -48 do current sharing so you can stack up to 8 of 
those in parallel to have a lot of capacity and N+1 redundancy without the 
DR-RDN20 redundancy module.

 

We're getting ready to do a four unit N+1 at a site that has 16-17 Amps already 
and is getting some LTE base stations added to it.

 


  _  


From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of 
George Skorup mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com> >
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 4:55:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V Battery Revert and Charge Module

 

List price on the BCMU360 is about $215 IIRC. I think we pay about $175 from 
PSUI. Plus $15 for the temp probe.

Are you asking run time? I have a couple with 40Ah of battery attached. A few 
with about 90W load have ran for over four hours, but they never went down, 
utility came back. A couple others with ~190-220W. Lost utility at one of the 
sites the other day. It was running for about an hour and a half before I 
brought a portable gen out. That site didn't go down either. Couldn't let it, 
too much traffic. And of course utility came back 15 minutes after I got the 
generator going.


 

Gino A. Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



On 5/20/2017 4:51 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:

How much are you paying for the Traco and how long does it last?

On 5/20/17, 4:44 PM, "Af on behalf of George Skorup" mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> 


ï¿1Ž2

Gino A. Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

on behalf of george.sko...@cbcast.com  > wrote:

>Mean Well AD-155B
>or
>Mean Well SDR-240-24 + DR-UPS40
>or
>Mean Well SDR-240-24 (or 48) + Traco BCMU360 (jumper selectable for 24
>or 48) - I use this combo most often. The BCMU360 is only good for ~240W
>continuous.
>
>All this stuff is fine until you start looking to deploy things that are
>power hungry like 450m's @ 70W, LTE eNB's that pull 60-100W each,
>multiple AF24s or licensed radios, etc. Then you need big-boy
>rectifiers, which aren't all that expensive, but they aren't cheap
>either. Add good telco-grade batteries on top and it's easily 10x the
>cost of what we're used to with the smaller stuff.
>
>On 5/20/2017 1:16 PM, Matt wrote:
>> What is everyone using for switching from AC to battery backup at sites?
>>
>> I normally have our other guy take care of that part.ï¿1Ž2 But we normally
>> have a DIN mount 24V power supply, a DIN mount packetflux site monitor
>> that monitors power supply output and battery voltage and some DIN
>> mount module that does charging and switching between the two.ï¿1Ž2 Also
>> have a 24V to 48V converter to power our 450i etc stuff.
>>
>> Monitor the site monitor with SNMP and start emailing alarms if power
>> supply voltage drops.ï¿1Ž2 Also graph power supply and battery voltage
>> with MRTG.
>>
>> Curious what others are using here?
>

 

Re: [AFMUG] 2017 Hourly / Salary Wages

[SmarterBroadband]

They have to take pictures.  Mounting, cable run, wall penetration, inside, etc.

We also check AP and CPE rx levels, CINR, mcs, link test etc.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:54 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2017 Hourly / Salary Wages

 

Do you have someone go out to each site to make sure things were done right?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2017 Hourly / Salary Wages

 

You may want to consider bonuses.  Instead of giving a Hourly Rate increase we 
started giving a successful install bonus.

Each installer gets a bonus for his successful installs.  Must be to our 
specifications.  

Front office gets a bonus based on all successful installs per week.

Bonuses are paid two weeks after the install, this gives time to check specs 
and ensure no complaints.

 

All staff know that if the company was to shrink (hope not), bonuses could be 
reduced or go away.

 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Burris
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:48 AM
To: memb...@wispa.org <mailto:memb...@wispa.org> ; af@afmug.com 
<mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: [AFMUG] 2017 Hourly / Salary Wages

 

Just sitting here thinking about raises...

 

For those of you with employees, care to share what you pay for:

 

Office support staff-

Field installers / repair tech -

Tower tech -

 

 

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr.   
Franklin, IN 46131   
  
317-738-0320   Daytime # 
317-412-1540   Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net

 

VIA WIRELESS 

Re: [AFMUG] 2017 Hourly / Salary Wages

[SmarterBroadband]

You may want to consider bonuses.  Instead of giving a Hourly Rate increase we 
started giving a successful install bonus.

Each installer gets a bonus for his successful installs.  Must be to our 
specifications.  

Front office gets a bonus based on all successful installs per week.

Bonuses are paid two weeks after the install, this gives time to check specs 
and ensure no complaints.

 

All staff know that if the company was to shrink (hope not), bonuses could be 
reduced or go away.

 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Burris
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:48 AM
To: memb...@wispa.org; af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 2017 Hourly / Salary Wages

 

Just sitting here thinking about raises...

 

For those of you with employees, care to share what you pay for:

 

Office support staff-

Field installers / repair tech -

Tower tech -

 

 

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr.   
Franklin, IN 46131   
  
317-738-0320   Daytime # 
317-412-1540   Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net

 

VIA WIRELESS 

Re: [AFMUG] average number of calls a day

[SmarterBroadband]

Jay, what is the issue?  We have a lot of Telrad deployed.

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com; memb...@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] average number of calls a day

 

 

That is what I would expect if everything were working correctly. :)

Thanks Layne.

We've had some power issues with a telrad deployment we purchased.

At this time we are only able to power and transmit on two of three base
stations at a time.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Layne Sisk   

To: af@afmug.com   ; memb...@wispa.org
  

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:40 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] average number of calls a day

 

Are you speaking of support/customer service calls?  If so you should be
between 8-16 calls per day.  Average per day call volume for the ISPs we
support is typically between 1 and 2 % of the subscriber base.  

 

Layne Sisk

ServerPlus

  801.426.8283, ext 102

  

 

   

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:06 PM
To: memb...@wispa.org  ; af@afmug.com
 
Subject: [AFMUG] average number of calls a day

 

 

we're about 800 customers

how many calls on average should we be getting a day?

we have a few network problems right now but i think we are seeing 25-40

planning for staff adjustments...

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] New competition in town

[SmarterBroadband]

😊

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 10:20 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New competition in town

I see they sprung for the pressure treated 4x4 — nice touch; clearly they’re 
planning long-term.

> On 28 Apr 2017, at 16:31, Adam Moffett  wrote:
> 
> We can hope that.  Even so, my temporary install would be a lot prettier than 
> that.
> 
> 
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Jay Weekley" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 4/28/2017 10:22:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New competition in town
> 
>> Maybe it's an emergency link that's temporary.  I've been known to use 
>> materials at hand because we got a call at 2pm that a fiber link had been 
>> damaged and they needed an emergency bypass.
>> 
>> Nate Burke wrote:
>>> The actual install aside, why is this guy coming to town?  Filling in areas 
>>> that you couldn't/wouldn't?  Or somebody specifically trying to screw with 
>>> you.  Or is this a municipality that had a 'consultant' tell them he could 
>>> link all their buildings together with 1G for $75.
>>> 
>>> On 4/28/2017 8:51 AM, Dave wrote:
 Lets consider the design for a moment besides the untreated wood and 
 single base pole mount.
 How long do we expect the life of this to last when the first big 
 rain storm comes through with water running straight into the bucket and 
 filling it with water given the wind doesnt blow it clean off the roof.
 I need this competitor in my area. LOL
 
 
 On 04/27/2017 12:18 AM, Sean Heskett wrote:
> I think my favorite part (besides the bucket) is the single hose 
> clamp holding the whole thing to the roof :-/
> 
> -sean
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 10:05 PM Mathew Howard  
> wrote:
> 
>that... is a thing of beauty!
> 
>On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 11:53 PM, Steve Jones
>mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
>wrote:
> 
>if youre going to mount your radios on some plywood, you
>might as well use indoor patch cords to connect them to your
>bucket
> 
>On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 11:42 PM, Sean Heskett
> wrote:
> 
>Seems legit to me...
> 
> 
> 
 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Virus-free. www.avg.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net provider identification

[SmarterBroadband]

Does it show up on a local speedtest.net site?  Ours went to the East coast and 
we discovered had to fix the ownership and location entries with a number of 
geo location companies.

 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 5:00 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net provider identification

 

I just brought a new block of IPv4 addresses online, but when I run a test to 
speedtest.net  , I show the incorrect company as the 
provider.  Anyone have a good contact over there that I can notify? Or are they 
pulling from another database that I should be looking into?

 

Thanks.

 

Jason

Re: [AFMUG] USB to POE

[SmarterBroadband]

You can use this battery pack.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M2ZNGHU/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3MRZL3FRB3U1J&coliid=I3BPGDCKMPQGPO

Plus Tycon USB to POE converters which are available in 24v and 48v.

The battery pack has 3 USB outlets.  Two for the Tycon POE and one for a 
wireless device.  Like the 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01AL7P1FU/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This along with a POE cross over cable means you can power Canopy, UBNT and 48v 
in our case Telrad.

Add a USB wall charger and a USB car charger and you are good to go.

Adam

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 6:48 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] USB to POE

Does anyone know of a device that takes USB power source and converts it too 
24v POE output for Canopy SM?

[AFMUG] CAF2

[SmarterBroadband]

Does anyone have a link to where I can find a list of eligible Census
Blocks?

 

Thanks

 

Adam

Re: [AFMUG] Link Planner Question

[SmarterBroadband]

Looks like link planner needs True.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 12:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Link Planner Question

 

When setting up an AP in link planner is;

 

Antenna Azimuth: Set the bearing of peak of beam of Access Point antenna.

 

True or magnetic?

 

 

[AFMUG] Link Planner Question

[SmarterBroadband]

When setting up an AP in link planner is;

 

Antenna Azimuth: Set the bearing of peak of beam of Access Point antenna.

 

True or magnetic?

 

 

[AFMUG] Cambium 450M

[SmarterBroadband]

The 450M which has 3 ports only seems to come with one cable pass-through!!

 

Anyone know where I can buy extra of these metal pass-throughs?

 

Cambium, Please could you provide all 3 pass-throughs?  We should be able to
install this out of the box without having to go and buy extras???

 

Thanks

 

Adam 

Re: [AFMUG] Addition to new site.

[SmarterBroadband]

😊

 

WOW bet they are much happier now.

 

We went 450M with 77 customers and saw throughput double. 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Lambie
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 1:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Addition to new site.

 

Yep on the 450 AP with 101 Customers... A little overloaded!

 

Thanks Sean for the tip. I'll keep monkeying around.

 

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Sean Heskett mailto:af...@zirkel.us> > wrote:

The syncbox 12s seem to be really finicky with where the GPS antenna is 
located.  On 1 tower we had to move it towards the center of all the metal 
instead of away from the tower like you'd think.

 

You can also run a sync cable from another packetflux sync device to the 12.

 

The uGPS is most reliable but the 12 Will work, you just have to monkey with it.

 

Hope that helps!

 

-Sean

 

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 8:28 AM Sam Lambie mailto:samtaos...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Medusa doesn't seem to like the packetflux gps. I am getting this most of the 
time.


04/13/2017 : 09:12:44 MDT : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:12:45 MDT : Lost sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:12:45 MDT : Generating Sync - Free Run
04/13/2017 : 09:13:00 MDT : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:03 MDT : Lost sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:03 MDT : Generating Sync - Free Run
04/13/2017 : 09:13:03 MDT : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:05 MDT : Lost sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:05 MDT : Generating Sync - Free Run
04/13/2017 : 09:13:05 MDT : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:07 MDT : Lost sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:07 MDT : Generating Sync - Free Run
04/13/2017 : 09:13:07 MDT : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:09 MDT : Lost sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:09 MDT : Generating Sync - Free Run
04/13/2017 : 09:13:09 MDT : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:12 MDT : Lost sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:12 MDT : Generating Sync - Free Run
04/13/2017 : 09:13:12 MDT : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:14 MDT : Lost sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:14 MDT : Generating Sync - Free Run
04/13/2017 : 09:13:14 MDT : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:16 MDT : Lost sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:16 MDT : Generating Sync - Free Run
04/13/2017 : 09:13:21 MDT : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:23 MDT : Lost sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:23 MDT : Generating Sync - Free Run
04/13/2017 : 09:13:23 MDT : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:25 MDT : Lost sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:25 MDT : Generating Sync - Free Run
04/13/2017 : 09:13:27 MDT : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:30 MDT : Lost sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:30 MDT : Generating Sync - Free Run
04/13/2017 : 09:13:30 MDT : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:32 MDT : Lost sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:32 MDT : Generating Sync - Free Run
04/13/2017 : 09:13:32 MDT : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:33 MDT : Lost sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:33 MDT : Generating Sync - Free Run
04/13/2017 : 09:13:37 MDT : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:39 MDT : Lost sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:39 MDT : Generating Sync - Free Run
04/13/2017 : 09:13:48 MDT : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:51 MDT : Lost sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:51 MDT : Generating Sync - Free Run
04/13/2017 : 09:13:53 MDT : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:55 MDT : Lost sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:55 MDT : Generating Sync - Free Run
04/13/2017 : 09:13:55 MDT : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:57 MDT : Lost sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:13:57 MDT : Generating Sync - Free Run
04/13/2017 : 09:13:57 MDT : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:14:00 MDT : Lost sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:14:00 MDT : Generating Sync - Free Run
04/13/2017 : 09:14:00 MDT : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:14:02 MDT : Lost sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:14:02 MDT : Generating Sync - Free Run
04/13/2017 : 09:14:02 MDT : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:14:03 MDT : Lost sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:14:03 MDT : Generating Sync - Free Run
04/13/2017 : 09:14:07 MDT : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:14:10 MDT : Lost sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:14:10 MDT : Generating Sync - Free Run
04/13/2017 : 09:14:10 MDT : Acquired sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:14:12 MDT : Lost sync pulse from Power Port
04/13/2017 : 09:14:12 MDT : Generating Sync - Free Run
04/13/2017 : 

Re: [AFMUG] 11GHz license cost

[SmarterBroadband]

So rule of thumb, if you are thinking of more than one link from a site, even 
if it is in the future, co-ordinate it now to save duplicate fcc site fees.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 1:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11GHz license cost

 

FCC Fee is $495 / site  (that is if it is a new site location for you).

Modification fee is $260/site  (that is if that site already has an licensed 
link location for you).

 

Coordination fees are $600 - $1000

Liz @ Intellipath is our go to person for this stuff.

I know there are others who do a great job as well.

 

and the FCC FEE is on a per site location basis, the channel size is irrelevant 
... 

 

(The only exception to the above pricing is E-Band stuff).

 

:)

 

 

 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
 

 

  _  

From: "Mathew Howard" mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> >
To: "af" mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 3:37:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11GHz license cost

Nevermind... I just dug up an invoice... $495 per site, so $990 for both.

 

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I thought the FCC fee was something like $990 per site, for a new site...

Coordination will probably be between $600 and $1000, depending on exactly what 
you're doing and who you get to do it.

 

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:



It's done per site.

If it's modifying the site, I think it's 260.  If there's nothing on it and 
you're adding new, 520.

 

Worst case both sites are new making the cost about 1040

 

You also need to pay for a frequency, Liz does for pretty much everyone here 
https://www.intelpath.com/



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Brett A Mansfield 
mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com> > wrote:



I'm looking at getting my first 11 GHz link and wondering if anyone can share 
the approximate cost of licensing the link? I'm looking for total cost minus 
hardware including hidden costs that I might not expect.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Addition to new site.

[SmarterBroadband]

You had 101 customers on a standard 450 AP?  

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Lambie
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 7:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Addition to new site.

 

Cambium Medusa. Synced with Packetflux Syncbox 12. Powered with Syncinjectors 
by Packetflux. 

 

Just put it up today so no performance reviews yet. 101 customers coming from a 
450 AP. 

 

Psyched

 

Re: [AFMUG] 80-90 foot tower

[SmarterBroadband]

install in a tree.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 10:48 AM
To: memb...@wispa.org; af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 80-90 foot tower

 

Hello all,

 

We have a customer whose house is in the middle of a forest basically and we 
can't get to one of our towers by going outside the trees because they don't 
own the property. The only other option is to go above the trees. They had a 
friend with a professional drone come out and the trees are at 75 feet so he 
probably needs a 85-90 foot tower to get above the tree canopy. 

 

We only need to mount an ePMP Force 200 (18" diameter dish) to the top of the 
tower so the load is fairly minimal. 

 

He is getting some quotes for about $8k installed but that seems a little high 
to me. What should he be seeing for hardware plus labor for a tower that can 
support this height and small load?

 

Any manufacturers/models would be appreciated. Thank you


 

-- 

Darin Steffl

Minnesota WiFi

www.mnwifi.com  

507-634-WiFi

   Like us on Facebook 
 

Re: [AFMUG] OID for Channel Width on ePMP?

[SmarterBroadband]

Thanks Josh.

 

So 1 =10, 2 = 20 etc?

 

How could I use that in a label in The Dude?  Is there a way to say if 1 then 
show 10 etc?

 

Thanks

 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 12:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OID for Channel Width on ePMP?

 

epmp is 1-4

1.3.6.1.4.1.17713.21.3.8.2.5.0




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 2:05 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

Actually, same for FSK and 450?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: [AFMUG] OID for Channel Width on ePMP?

 

Anyone know the OID for channel width on ePMP?

 

Thanks

 

Adam

 

Re: [AFMUG] OID for Channel Width on ePMP?

[SmarterBroadband]

Actually, same for FSK and 450?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OID for Channel Width on ePMP?

 

Anyone know the OID for channel width on ePMP?

 

Thanks

 

Adam

[AFMUG] OID for Channel Width on ePMP?

[SmarterBroadband]

Anyone know the OID for channel width on ePMP?

 

Thanks

 

Adam

Re: [AFMUG] OT Good deal Fw: ENDS TODAY! TiVo Roamio OTA 72-hourflash sale for just $249.99.

[SmarterBroadband]

Sounds good, I have the gear behind the wall so need radio.

 

I will order one.

 

Thanks

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 12:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Good deal Fw: ENDS TODAY! TiVo Roamio OTA
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Radio.  Has good range too.  I have a home theater where the electronics are
and in another part of the house I have a gym.  I extend hdmi to the gym
with a nice screen on the wall.  I can control it from anywhere in the gym.


 

From: SmarterBroadband 

Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 1:17 PM

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That does look good.  I you have one can you tell me if the remote is IR or
radio (Bluetooth)?

Thanks

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Good deal Fw: ENDS TODAY! TiVo Roamio OTA 72-hour flash sale for just $249.99.

[SmarterBroadband]

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radio (Bluetooth)?

Thanks

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 Wimax

[SmarterBroadband]

Like you we use Telrad WiMAX.  It has been good for us.  We will also 
transition to LTE soon.

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 11:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 Wimax

 

We still have it, yes.  Transitioning to LTE.

If you like-hated wimax, then you'll like-hate LTE even more.

 

If you loved Wimax, then I don't think we can be friends.

 

 

-- Original Message --

From: "Philip Rankin" mailto:wireless...@gmail.com> >

To: "af" mailto:af@afmug.com> >

Sent: 4/7/2017 1:56:26 PM

Subject: [AFMUG] 3.65 Wimax

 

Is anyone still operating 3.65 Wimax?

 

Has any other technology/wireless protocol come along that can compete with 
Wimax's superior nLos capability?  At any other bands?  I have no interest in 
900.

 

Thanks in advance for any feedback!


 

-- 

Philip J. Rankin

Wireless Telecommunications Services
PO Box 24
Pittsburg, KS  66762

Re: [AFMUG] TowerCoverage.com

[SmarterBroadband]

TowerCoverage told my tech they are not adding any more default antennas.  We 
have to do our own.

 

We have the Ant files from Cambium.

 

I will check with my tech to see what the issue is.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 5:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TowerCoverage.com

 

They're just ANT (antenna) files.

 

Cambium has them for their antennas.  Your best bet is to ask TowerCoverage to 
request them from Cambium.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 8:11 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

What do you mean?

They are not in the default list as far as I know.

Does Cambium have TowerCoverage ready files somewhere?

Thanks

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 1:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TowerCoverage.com

 

Cambium has all of their stuff for sure.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Paul McCall mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net> > wrote:

I am interested as well for the same stuff.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 3:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: [AFMUG] TowerCoverage.com

 

Before we reinvent the wheel.  Does anyone have TowerCoverage .ant antenna 
pattern files (ready to upload) for the following you are willing to share.

 

epmp 2000 5GHz sector Model #C050900D021A (with and without beam-forming)

 

450M 5 GHz integrated, beam-forming

 

450i 5 GHz integrated sector Model #C050045A006B

 

Also, nice to haves

 

MTI: MT-485005/VHN

 

e-PmP Force-110 Integrated Model #C058900P072A

 

e-PmP Force-180 Integrated Model #C058900P062A

 

BTW: We have the Cambium 900 MHz sector file if anyone needs it.

 

Thanks

 

Adam

 

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] N-Male Pigtails for 5 GHz / A5c?

[SmarterBroadband]

+1 for Shireen.  They will make anything you want.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 9:14 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] N-Male Pigtails for 5 GHz / A5c?

 

Shireen Inc makes some 

 

On Mar 28, 2017 9:50 AM, "Christopher Gray" mailto:cg...@graytechsoftware.com> > wrote:

Any recommendations for pre-made high quality pigtails for use on 5 GHz with 
the A5c?


 

Thank you - Chris

Re: [AFMUG] TowerCoverage.com

[SmarterBroadband]

What do you mean?

They are not in the default list as far as I know.

Does Cambium have TowerCoverage ready files somewhere?

Thanks

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 1:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TowerCoverage.com

 

Cambium has all of their stuff for sure.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Paul McCall mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net> > wrote:

I am interested as well for the same stuff.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 3:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: [AFMUG] TowerCoverage.com

 

Before we reinvent the wheel.  Does anyone have TowerCoverage .ant antenna 
pattern files (ready to upload) for the following you are willing to share.

 

epmp 2000 5GHz sector Model #C050900D021A (with and without beam-forming)

 

450M 5 GHz integrated, beam-forming

 

450i 5 GHz integrated sector Model #C050045A006B

 

Also, nice to haves

 

MTI: MT-485005/VHN

 

e-PmP Force-110 Integrated Model #C058900P072A

 

e-PmP Force-180 Integrated Model #C058900P062A

 

BTW: We have the Cambium 900 MHz sector file if anyone needs it.

 

Thanks

 

Adam

 

 

 

[AFMUG] TowerCoverage.com

[SmarterBroadband]

Before we reinvent the wheel.  Does anyone have TowerCoverage .ant antenna
pattern files (ready to upload) for the following you are willing to share.

 

epmp 2000 5GHz sector Model #C050900D021A (with and without beam-forming)

 

450M 5 GHz integrated, beam-forming

 

450i 5 GHz integrated sector Model #C050045A006B

 

Also, nice to haves

 

MTI: MT-485005/VHN

 

e-PmP Force-110 Integrated Model #C058900P072A

 

e-PmP Force-180 Integrated Model #C058900P062A

 

BTW: We have the Cambium 900 MHz sector file if anyone needs it.

 

Thanks

 

Adam

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

[SmarterBroadband]

Looks like the POWERINJECTOR PLUS SYNC - GIGABIT VERSION does 2 amps.

So that and a large Meanwell PSU would be one way to power 4 450M.

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

 

Yea only one.  450M spec sheet says 80 Watts!!!  Hence this 100 watt POE.

 

I need to see if any of the Packetflux power injectors will support 2 amps
per channel.

 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

 

That would certainly power ONE 450M. Probably not a lot more.

 

bp

 

On 3/23/2017 12:08 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

OK SyncBox Junior works for me.

�

Would this power supply be OK?

�

http://tyconsystems.com/index.php/ac-passive-gigabit/482-tp-poe-hp-56g

�

Adam

�

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

�

The 450m uses "Cambium Sync" and I still don't know what the hell that is.
AFAIK, that's only the CMM5 so far. Last Mile Gear might support it, I don't
remember.

That said, I know Sean has said that his 450m's are powered and receiving
traditional Canopy Sync from a PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync. Problem with
that is, you're interrupting power (the sync pulse) while trying to run a
70W load (the 450m). Forrest said he's working on new stuff to support
Cambium Sync.

Probably the best option right now is a SyncBox Junior Aux. Or a UGPS.
Enable UGPS power on the Aux port in the radio, plug it in and go. Power the
radio with whatever. GigE-POE-APC and a 56VDC/2A supply. A
PowerInjector+Sync. Or Forrest's 4-port or 8-port GigE injector boards. Or
hell, even his single-port GigE injector. Anything that support 4-pair
powering + GigE and you should be fine.

On 3/23/2017 11:51 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

What POE�s and Sync are people using with 450M?

�

 

Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

[SmarterBroadband]

Yea only one.  450M spec sheet says 80 Watts!!!  Hence this 100 watt POE.

 

I need to see if any of the Packetflux power injectors will support 2 amps
per channel.

 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

 

That would certainly power ONE 450M. Probably not a lot more.

 

bp

 

On 3/23/2017 12:08 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

OK SyncBox Junior works for me.

�

Would this power supply be OK?

�

http://tyconsystems.com/index.php/ac-passive-gigabit/482-tp-poe-hp-56g

�

Adam

�

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

�

The 450m uses "Cambium Sync" and I still don't know what the hell that is.
AFAIK, that's only the CMM5 so far. Last Mile Gear might support it, I don't
remember.

That said, I know Sean has said that his 450m's are powered and receiving
traditional Canopy Sync from a PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync. Problem with
that is, you're interrupting power (the sync pulse) while trying to run a
70W load (the 450m). Forrest said he's working on new stuff to support
Cambium Sync.

Probably the best option right now is a SyncBox Junior Aux. Or a UGPS.
Enable UGPS power on the Aux port in the radio, plug it in and go. Power the
radio with whatever. GigE-POE-APC and a 56VDC/2A supply. A
PowerInjector+Sync. Or Forrest's 4-port or 8-port GigE injector boards. Or
hell, even his single-port GigE injector. Anything that support 4-pair
powering + GigE and you should be fine.

On 3/23/2017 11:51 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

What POE�s and Sync are people using with 450M?

�

 

Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

[SmarterBroadband]

OK SyncBox Junior works for me.

 

Would this power supply be OK?

 

http://tyconsystems.com/index.php/ac-passive-gigabit/482-tp-poe-hp-56g

 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

 

The 450m uses "Cambium Sync" and I still don't know what the hell that is.
AFAIK, that's only the CMM5 so far. Last Mile Gear might support it, I don't
remember.

That said, I know Sean has said that his 450m's are powered and receiving
traditional Canopy Sync from a PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync. Problem with
that is, you're interrupting power (the sync pulse) while trying to run a
70W load (the 450m). Forrest said he's working on new stuff to support
Cambium Sync.

Probably the best option right now is a SyncBox Junior Aux. Or a UGPS.
Enable UGPS power on the Aux port in the radio, plug it in and go. Power the
radio with whatever. GigE-POE-APC and a 56VDC/2A supply. A
PowerInjector+Sync. Or Forrest's 4-port or 8-port GigE injector boards. Or
hell, even his single-port GigE injector. Anything that support 4-pair
powering + GigE and you should be fine.

On 3/23/2017 11:51 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

What POE�s and Sync are people using with 450M?

 

[AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

[SmarterBroadband]

What POE's and Sync are people using with 450M?

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Store - Mikrotik compatible SFP's ??

[SmarterBroadband]

Have you tried any of these with a Netonix?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 1:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Store - Mikrotik compatible SFP's ??

 

I'm successfully using all of these with MT:

 

1G:

http://www.fs.com/products/13274.html

http://www.fs.com/products/22138.html

http://www.fs.com/products/39418.html

 

10G:

http://www.fs.com/products/11591.html

 

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Andreas Wiatowski mailto:andr...@silowireless.com> > wrote:

So if I buy the cisco rated ones they should work too??

 

 

Cheers,

 

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

1-866-727-4238 x-600  

http://www.silowireless.com  

Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

 

_

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of this message or their agent, or if this message has been addressed to you in 
error, please immediately alert the sender by reply email and then delete this 
message and any attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, you are 
hereby notified that any use, dissemination, copying, or storage of this 
message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. 

 

 

From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of 
Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com  " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 4:16 PM
To: "af@afmug.com  " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Store - Mikrotik compatible SFP's ??

 

Mikrotik doesn't lock their devices in any way, so an optic coded to any brand 
should work just as well as any other.



-
Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  
Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP






  _  


From: "Andreas Wiatowski" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:03:49 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Fiber Store - Mikrotik compatible SFP's ??

Is there a particular SKU that is Mikrotik compatible at FS.com??

 

Cheers,

 

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

1-866-727-4238 x-600

http://www.silowireless.com

Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

 

_

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the addressee(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information and 
may be legally protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient 
of this message or their agent, or if this message has been addressed to you in 
error, please immediately alert the sender by reply email and then delete this 
message and any attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, you are 
hereby notified that any use, dissemination, copying, or storage of this 
message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. 

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Interference clauses in commercial tower leases

[SmarterBroadband]

We managed to get these two clauses into a local commercial lease back in
2010.

 



 



 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 1:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Interference clauses in commercial tower leases

 

Anyone have a clause that they have gotten a commercial tower provider to
include in their contract, for the purposes of frequency protection?

 

Something that would identify the unlicensed frequencies that you intend to
use, and that you no other new leasee would be allowed to successfully apply
with those frequencies.

 

We have done this with Crown previously, and I am currently fighting the
issue with a smaller, regional tower group.   I would like to have some
references of WISPs who also have these protections.

 

Thanks!

 

Paul

 

Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800  

pa...@pdmnet.net  

www.pdmnet.com  

www.floridabroadband.com  

 

 

[AFMUG] Telrad 7000

[SmarterBroadband]

Has anyone sourced replacement Ethernet sockets for Telrad CPE7000?   We
have a few with broken clips, looking for part number and company to order
replacements.

 

Also any repair company doing this repair?

 

Thanks

 

Adam

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news?

[SmarterBroadband]

😊

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 10:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news?

Self driving cars.  q3 2017

-Original Message- 
From: Jon Langeler 
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 11:11 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news? 

Anything new announced with ETA??

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik error message in log

[SmarterBroadband]

But there are no MACs in the export file.  

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 6:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik error message in log

 

Uh that's exactly how you'd get the duplicate MACs :(




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 8:00 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

Good thought, but no.  We copy paste config using export file and there are no 
MAC addresses.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Jesse DuPont
Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 1:30 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik error message in log

 

Copied and pasted a config, including bridge MAC address, from one router to a 
newly deployed router?

Jesse DuPont

Network Architect
email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net <mailto:jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> 
Celerity Networks LLC

Celerity Broadband LLC
Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc 
<http://facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc> 

Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband <http://facebook.com/celeritybroadband> 


On 3/7/17 2:09 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

Has anyone ever had this error message in the Mikrotik log?

 

Interface, warning vpls9: bridge port received packet with own address as 
source address (4c:5e:0c:48:78:27), probably loop

 

This message is appearing on one of our vpls hub routers.  Any ideas on how to 
track down the cause?

 

Thanks

 

Adam

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik error message in log

[SmarterBroadband]

Good thought, but no.  We copy paste config using export file and there are no 
MAC addresses.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jesse DuPont
Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 1:30 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik error message in log

 

Copied and pasted a config, including bridge MAC address, from one router to a 
newly deployed router?

Jesse DuPont

Network Architect
email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net <mailto:jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> 
Celerity Networks LLC

Celerity Broadband LLC
Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc

Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband


On 3/7/17 2:09 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

Has anyone ever had this error message in the Mikrotik log?

 

Interface, warning vpls9: bridge port received packet with own address as 
source address (4c:5e:0c:48:78:27), probably loop

 

This message is appearing on one of our vpls hub routers.  Any ideas on how to 
track down the cause?

 

Thanks

 

Adam

 

[AFMUG] Mikrotik error message in log

[SmarterBroadband]

Has anyone ever had this error message in the Mikrotik log?

 

Interface, warning vpls9: bridge port received packet with own address
as source address (4c:5e:0c:48:78:27), probably loop

 

This message is appearing on one of our vpls hub routers.  Any ideas on how
to track down the cause?

 

Thanks

 

Adam

[AFMUG] WiMAX, radius and ASN

[SmarterBroadband]

Does anyone have a solution that allows one WiMAX ASN to use multiple radius
servers?  Failover or load balance.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: NAS for VMware ?

[SmarterBroadband]

I do think this Synology Flashstation looks cool.

 

https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/FS3017

 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 10:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: NAS for VMware ?

 

Synology, iSCSI?




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Gino Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> > wrote:

Looking for a fast, preferably SSD based NAS for a Vmware cluster,

 

Thanks! 


 

Gino Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics

[SmarterBroadband]

Stop listening to alt-facts, fake news.

 

Politifact says that is not true.

 

If we look specifically at sex offences, which the Fox News segment 
highlighted, there were 18,100 sex offenses reported to the police in 2015, 
down 11 percent from 2014, according to the  

 Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention.

The number of rapes reported decreased 12 percent between 2014 and 2015, to 
5,920, the agency reported. The council noted that in Sweden, when a single 
case is reported, every incident associated with the case is also reported as 
an offense during the same year.

The amount of reported rape offenses has gone up in the last 10 years 
(2006-15), which the agency said can be partially attributed to new legislation 
in 2005 that augmented the types of acts that can be classified as rape.

"The effect of the statutory change appeared in the statistics such that the 
number of reported offences in respect of sexual coercion and exploitation 
declined in the years immediately following the statutory change while the 
number of reported rapes increased," according to the agency. In 2013, a rape 
offense was broadened "to include cases where the victim reacts passively."

And on crime

 

"In general, crime statistics have gone down the last (few) years, and no there 
is no evidence to suggest that new waves of immigration has lead to increased 
crime," 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 2:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics

 

I think any rational person who has followed the news about the refugee 
situation in Europe would have figured out exactly what he meant. A 70% 
increase in rapes in the last couple years in Sweden is a pretty good 
indication that there is a problem there. If any city, let alone our whole 
country, had seen this much of an increase, you know you'd be hearing about it. 
Swedish authorities took a lot of heat for covering up the number of assaults 
recently at the Stockholm Music Festival, but I don't think to many news 
outlets over here even reported it.

 

 

On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

2 & 2 is 22, give the guy some credit

-Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 
2:30 PM To: af@afmug.com   Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 
Politics 

No. He heard "something" on Fox about "something" in Sweden. He put 2 and 2 
together and got 11.


bp


On 2/20/2017 1:22 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I am guessing something happened in some other country and he got confused.
Or, better yet, he was spilling the beans on some kind of intelligence without 
thinking.

-Original Message- From: Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 1:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics

Is that what happened in Sweden? Sweden! Sweden? Sweden!

Really? Sweden?!?


bp


On 2/20/2017 11:37 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com   wrote:

>From the news:

Russia's ambassador to the United Nations . . .  died suddenly after falling 
ill Monday in his office at the mission.

We all know what that means...







 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] 450M limited vs 450i integrated sector

[SmarterBroadband]

Hi Craig

 

We had a 450 fail a while back and we replaced it with a 450i.  The
customers connections improved so we see the 450i as an upgrade.  I don't
know if it was just due to the new sector being better or some magic in the
radio.  The two main towers where we have 450 are very noisy, maybe it is
the adaptive filter doing its thing?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 6:17 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M limited vs 450i integrated sector

 

Adam, do you need more processing power or the uplink noise filter?  My 450
are performing just fine.  I don't see a huge reason to upgrade just to a
450i. I have a few that will go to a full 450m this year. Just curious on
your thoughts. 

 

  _  

From: Af < <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of
SmarterBroadband < <mailto:li...@sbb.net> li...@sbb.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 4:40:10 PM
To:  <mailto:af@afmug.com> af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M limited vs 450i integrated sector 

 

:)

 

From: Af [ <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On
Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 2:36 PM
To: Animal Farm < <mailto:af@afmug.com> af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M limited vs 450i integrated sector

 

Welcome back comrade

 

On Feb 16, 2017 3:31 PM, "SmarterBroadband" mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

Has anyone done a real world comparison of the 450m limited vs 450i
integrated sector?

 

I would like to know if the 450m in sector mode works as well or better than
the new integrated sector version of the 450i.

 

I have a couple of locations with old 450 I was thinking of upgrading to
450i, but with the 450m limited being available I am considering going in
that direction saving another clime in a year or so.

 

I just don't know what the performance of the m antenna would be like on
sector mode.

 

Thanks

 

Adam

Re: [AFMUG] 450M limited vs 450i integrated sector

[SmarterBroadband]

:)

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 2:36 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M limited vs 450i integrated sector

 

Welcome back comrade

 

On Feb 16, 2017 3:31 PM, "SmarterBroadband" mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

Has anyone done a real world comparison of the 450m limited vs 450i integrated 
sector?

 

I would like to know if the 450m in sector mode works as well or better than 
the new integrated sector version of the 450i.

 

I have a couple of locations with old 450 I was thinking of upgrading to 450i, 
but with the 450m limited being available I am considering going in that 
direction saving another clime in a year or so.

 

I just don’t know what the performance of the m antenna would be like on sector 
mode.

 

Thanks

 

Adam

[AFMUG] 450M limited vs 450i integrated sector

[SmarterBroadband]

Has anyone done a real world comparison of the 450m limited vs 450i
integrated sector?

 

I would like to know if the 450m in sector mode works as well or better than
the new integrated sector version of the 450i.

 

I have a couple of locations with old 450 I was thinking of upgrading to
450i, but with the 450m limited being available I am considering going in
that direction saving another clime in a year or so.

 

I just don't know what the performance of the m antenna would be like on
sector mode.

 

Thanks

 

Adam

Re: [AFMUG] Test

[SmarterBroadband]

What a nightmare getting to be able to send to the list since changing to a new 
computer!!!

 

After many attempts I had to create a new email address and cancel the old 
subscription.

 

Nice to be back.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 2:01 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Test

 

Uno Dos Tres

 

On Feb 16, 2017 2:58 PM, "SmarterBroadband" mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote:

Test