[AFMUG] ePMP Upload 1-2Mbps

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Good morning geeks,

 

I have a sector with an ePMP running GPS, 75/25 ratio, FW 2.6.1

Recently the upload has gone to crap.  The RX/TX on the remote links look
great.

Different RFs have been tested.

 

The downloads are consistent.  The upload never exceeds 1-2Mbps.  

This is on 20Mhz channel.  Going to 40Mhz channel produces the same exact
result.

If I convert to FLEX mode, the upload does fall within range of the
download.  

 

It is isolated to this sector only.  Have you seen this problem before?

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
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Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

I agree with Gino.  WE have used them in a 1-2 mile PTP config.  Mainly to link 
a small site up to a larger site.

The other thing that really impressed us was short 100ft shots to remote 
buildings with trees getting -60s.

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 1:43 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

 

these are not the original integrated units, the new ones 

 

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:

Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin? =P




 

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Direct: 937-552-2343  
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini  > wrote:

Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them for up to 3 mile 
shots. Working great! Installers love them! 

 

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:

The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.




 

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Direct: 937-552-2343  
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Troy, OH 45373

 

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza  > wrote:

What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium Force 180's?

Thanks


Jaime Solorza

Wireless Systems Architect

915-861-1390  

 

 

 

 

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[AFMUG] Stuff For Sale - Taking Up Space - J-Arms, PTP 230, KP Sectors, FSK Radios

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

It's not Friday.but I need some room.all reasonable offers accepted.

Off list PLEASE:

 

30 Available:  Brand New J-Arms (from KP dishes) - $6 each + shipping

3 Used KP 120' Sectors 20db (2 have the UBNT box mounted to the back - Make
an offer + shipping

25 Assorted FSK 2.4, 5.7 and 900 radios w/last FW release - $20 each +
shipping

3 PTP 230 Complete Links - Make an offer + shipping 

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Pulled that crap down many years ago and went back to Shireen 5e.  If needed, 
we use fiber.

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 6:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e?

 

I really dislike CAT 6.  Is there a legit need for the stuff?

 

From: Mathew Howard   

Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 4:12 PM

To: af   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e?

 

We've started using DC-1042 for all our tower cable as well, and I'm pretty 
happy with it so far. I really don't see the point in using cat6.

 

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 2:04 PM, George Skorup  > wrote:

I have no problems with GigE over 5e. Shireen DC-1042 shielded dry gel tape is 
our preferred tower cable. We use Primus shielded plugs and the conductors fit 
the channels fine. The cable diameter is a little bigger due to the gel tape, 
but it fits in the plug body even with the foil turned over and pulled back to 
make contact with the tongue.

On 7/25/2016 12:54 PM, Christopher Gray wrote:

I just picked up some Shireen DC-2021 Cat6 cable, thinking I would start using 
Cat6 for my Mimosa installations (as suggested).  

 

It turns out, the individual insulation is too big for any of my RJ45 ends, and 
the jacket is also too big. Now, I'm looking at Cat6A connectors (that have a 
staggered insert and a full shield). Next, I will need a new crimper that does 
not crush the shield on the Cat6A connector. 

 

Anyhow, it seems like a lot of work to use Cat6 where some ToughCable and basic 
shielded RJ45 connectors might be functionally equivalent.

 

 

Should I be seriously considering Cat6? When did you decide Cat6 was worth it?

 

-Chris

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.6.2 - (was 2.5.5)

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

This ONLY applies if you add DNS to the device.  

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 4:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.6.2 - (was 2.5.5)

 

Guys,

 

Just be aware there is a known issue with 2.6.2 that can cause the radio to not 
respond on the Ethernet side.  It’s a known issue on Cambium’s site.  It bit is 
in the butt a couple times this week.  We have found that its best to NOT but 
DNS in AT ALL to be safe, as their description of the problem and “solution” 
doesn’t necessarily match our experience.  We had working DNS values in several 
radios and they wouldn’t respond until we removed them.

 

http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-2000-and-1000/Serious-issue-with-2-6-2-on-brand-new-Force-180s/m-p/56370/highlight/false#M6825

 

Paul

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Burris @ Internet 
Communications Inc
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 4:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.5.2

 

Mike,

 

Recommend you move to 2.6.2

 

 

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From: Af [ <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 3:51 PM
To:  <mailto:af@afmug.com> af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.5.2

 

Has anyone seen DFS false positive issues in 2.5.2? Newer firmwares pretty safe?



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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.5.2

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Mike,

 

Recommend you move to 2.6.2

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 3:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.5.2

 

Has anyone seen DFS false positive issues in 2.5.2? Newer firmwares pretty safe?



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[AFMUG] 100 Foot Towers and Less

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Where you geeks buying these from these days?

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Customer w/ Power of Ethernet - Speed problems?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

The Ethernet gear was installed already when we arrived.  He had configured the 
stuff on his own.  The customer has the same complaint no matter what speed we 
set him at.  

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 3:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Cc: memb...@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer w/ Power of Ethernet - Speed problems?

 

Did the issue come in to play with this Netgear thing (are you sure it isn't 
Ethernet over Power)?  Or when you went from 20meg to 30meg.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
<t...@franklinisp.net <mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

Toss your thoughts out…

 

First customer that installer has come across with new Netgear Power of 
Ethernet gear.  Customers main router is just a N300 which does PPPoE to our 
network.  

Account was set to 20Mbps and now 30Mbps.  Speed tests are good from radio out. 
 Customer says from inside his network he only gets 9-12Mbps, with no traffic 
or users.  

 

Curious if anyone has come across this power of Ethernet in an install.  Does 
it work ok or cause issues? How do routers handle the traffic?

 

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[AFMUG] Customer w/ Power of Ethernet - Speed problems?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Toss your thoughts out.

 

First customer that installer has come across with new Netgear Power of
Ethernet gear.  Customers main router is just a N300 which does PPPoE to our
network.  

Account was set to 20Mbps and now 30Mbps.  Speed tests are good from radio
out.  Customer says from inside his network he only gets 9-12Mbps, with no
traffic or users.  

 

Curious if anyone has come across this power of Ethernet in an install.
Does it work ok or cause issues? How do routers handle the traffic?

 

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Internet Communications Inc. 
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[AFMUG] 450 Contention Slots

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Freaking balancing act.  I should just be an engineer.

How are you handling the 450 contention slots to subs.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Looking for 24V PS + Battery

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

? What am I missing.  We are already doing this now.  Just want to get away
from it with some kind of all in one device.

 

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From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Scott Carullo
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 4:59 PM
To: memb...@wispa.org; af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Looking for 24V PS + Battery

 

I have been thinking about this as well.  I believe that with four 12v
batteries you can pull off 24v and 48v and send up tower with 3 conductors
(common negative and separate hots) then all you need is a battery charger
at the bottom with the ability to charge / supply necessary current for
normal operations.  This would prevent all the costs associated with
inverters etc and would be clean (no switch time when power fails).  Our
solar sites run so much better than commercial power sites its amazing how
good clean power makes such a difference.

 

This should work right?

 


Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102

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From: "Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc" <t...@franklinisp.net
<mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> >
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 4:51 PM
To: memb...@wispa.org <mailto:memb...@wispa.org> , af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: [WISPA Members] Looking for 24V PS + Battery 

 

What is the latest and greatest everyone is using?

Want to push 24V or 48V up tower + have integrated battery backup.

 

Right now everything is separated and independent of each other. Takes up
too much space.  Those days are over.  I want something simple, compact and
not to concerned about price.

 

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[AFMUG] Looking for 24V PS + Battery

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

What is the latest and greatest everyone is using?

Want to push 24V or 48V up tower + have integrated battery backup.

 

Right now everything is separated and independent of each other. Takes up
too much space.  Those days are over.  I want something simple, compact and
not to concerned about price.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Josh,

 

We have several customers in that situation.  No issues.  Using 10Mhz channel.  
Getting ready to deploy the KP dual sectors with 5Ghz and 3.65Ghz.

I can’t speak for everyone, but the 3.65 rocks in our area.

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 2:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

 

Has anyone tried 450 3.65 for near Los situations like this discussion?

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jun 7, 2016 2:46 PM, "George Skorup"  > wrote:

Take into account the 24-25dBm Tx power on a 2.4 FSK AP vs 22dBm on a 2.4 450 
AP. And you'll probably get a better pattern on a sector vs omni. A V-pol omni 
doesn't typically have a horrible pattern though. Except for vertical 
beamwidth. Then you play with electronic downtilt models, etc. So it's probably 
moot as far as Rx power levels go between the two.

We get OK penetration on the 2.4 450 sector we have up. Not so much the noise 
at the tower as it is at the SMs. We're going to get rid of it eventually along 
with all of the other 2.4 shit. It's a dead band just like 900 to us now.

On 6/7/2016 1:33 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Omni to a sector, of course.  You're probably getting more than 2 db unless it 
was a bonkers big omni and super small sector.




 

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Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  > wrote:

I have moved from pmp100 to 450 on 2.4ghz. Didn't do a cluster though. Went 
from a 2.4FSK on a 12db Omni to a two 450 sectors from KP 120 beam width (think 
14db) . Was able to hook up every single customer I has on the FSK to the 450 
and some were near-LOS. The 450 in 2.4ghz actually has impressively decent 
nLOS. I think its a lot better than the 3.65 for NLOS. ( I have used all the 
450 frequency bands except 900)

 

If you thinking about going 450 in 2.4 and you already have FSK up on 2.4 and 
nothing abmormal with your noise floor then do it. You'll love it. The 450 is 
actually better because you can run 10-mhz channels to get around some of the 
noise in 2.4 vs the FSK which was stuck at 20mhz

 

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Matt  > wrote:

So has anyone moved a PMP100 2.4 cluster too PMP450 2.4 and how did
that go?  With PMP100 in 2.4 we do pretty good on near LOS
connections.  Only deployed PMP450 in 3.6 and 5ghz so far though.



> We have mostly PMP100 and PMP450 deployed.  Some Ubiquiti we tried and
> some we inherited as well.  Have some ePMP we have tested but so far
> have not deployed more then couple test links.
>
> For those who have tried both ePMP and PMP450 what are the differences
> you have seen in performance?  Interference tolerance among others?
>
> For those that have gone with PMP450 over ePMP what was the reasoning?

 

 

 

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[AFMUG] Corp. Fleet Lease - Who do you use?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Looking to get two more used or new fleet trucks.  Who do you use?

 

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[AFMUG] Canopy FSK Log Error

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Hey guys,

 

Just scanning the FSK logs this morning and noticed these errors.  What's
the story on them?

 

Running FW 13.4.1

 

UTC : Event: SES_MSG, MsgType: PAREQ, NewState: IN SESSION, Flag 0
repeated 18 times

 

I have not checked our OFDM AP's yet.

 

 

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[AFMUG] 450 AP's Wanted

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Hit me up off list if you have used 450 AP's to sell on the cheap.  We get a
good price on new but just looking for backup units right now.

 

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[AFMUG] Brand New J-Arms For Sale: $5 Each

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Brand New- Came off KP Dishes (not used)

25-30 Available plus shipping.  Off list please.

 

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[AFMUG] FSK Radios For Sale - 900Mhz, 5Ghz, 2.4Ghz $15 Each

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It's Friday. Back room is overflowing with FSK gear coming in from the
upgrades.

P9s-P10s All $15 each.

 

Off list if you need some

 

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[AFMUG] Cambium PTP 820s MW links

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For those of you using the Cambium PTP 820s.  How are you powering them top
side?  I prefer DC.  

Does Packetflux make anything simply I can put into an existing box?

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*******, Re: 2.5 or 5 Frame Question

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Oh.  I think that is a fantastic idea!

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 9:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Cc: memb...@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam:***, Re: 2.5 or 5 Frame Question

 

Did you start along with Jamie already this morning?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 7, 2016 9:31 AM, "Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc" 
<t...@franklinisp.net <mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

WTF.  Good grief.  Don’t know why I am thinking its 5ms.

Maybe it’s the 430’s that are 5ms.

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 9:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Cc: memb...@wispa.org <mailto:memb...@wispa.org> 
Subject: Spam:***, Re: [AFMUG] 2.5 or 5 Frame Question

 

FSK is 2.5 ms.  That's why ePMP got that frame size, to sync with FSK.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 7, 2016 9:21 AM, "Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc" 
<t...@franklinisp.net <mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

Ok Geeks,

 

I have a simple question that we cannot get a straight answer on.  (different 
answers)

 

Scenario:

 

ePMP BH – running 2.5ms 1gb

5Ghz 450 AP – running 2.5 ms 1gb

3.65Ghz 450 AP – running 2.5 ms 1gb

2.4 FSK AP – running 5ms 100Mb

1GB Sync

MT 450 1GB acting as switch

 

WILL the FSK customers see issues or not on that 5ms or does it matter once it 
hits the switch?

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*******, Re: 2.5 or 5 Frame Question

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

WTF.  Good grief.  Don’t know why I am thinking its 5ms.

Maybe it’s the 430’s that are 5ms.

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 9:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Cc: memb...@wispa.org
Subject: Spam:***, Re: [AFMUG] 2.5 or 5 Frame Question

 

FSK is 2.5 ms.  That's why ePMP got that frame size, to sync with FSK.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 7, 2016 9:21 AM, "Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc" 
<t...@franklinisp.net <mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

Ok Geeks,

 

I have a simple question that we cannot get a straight answer on.  (different 
answers)

 

Scenario:

 

ePMP BH – running 2.5ms 1gb

5Ghz 450 AP – running 2.5 ms 1gb

3.65Ghz 450 AP – running 2.5 ms 1gb

2.4 FSK AP – running 5ms 100Mb

1GB Sync

MT 450 1GB acting as switch

 

WILL the FSK customers see issues or not on that 5ms or does it matter once it 
hits the switch?

 

 

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[AFMUG] 2.5 or 5 Frame Question

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Ok Geeks,

 

I have a simple question that we cannot get a straight answer on.
(different answers)

 

Scenario:

 

ePMP BH - running 2.5ms 1gb

5Ghz 450 AP - running 2.5 ms 1gb

3.65Ghz 450 AP - running 2.5 ms 1gb

2.4 FSK AP - running 5ms 100Mb

1GB Sync

MT 450 1GB acting as switch

 

WILL the FSK customers see issues or not on that 5ms or does it matter once
it hits the switch?

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Spam:******, Re: New One - 450 AP Issue

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Thanks for the response.  This was resolved.

 

The 430 SM’s will only connect on a frame of 2.5ms.  Not sure if that is a
FW issue or not, but that is what our problem was.

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 4:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Spam:**, Re: [AFMUG] New One - 450 AP Issue

 

430's are V pol only. If you lost the vertical on the AP, perhaps due to
water in the cable, that will do it.

On 3/29/2016 2:07 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc wrote:

Ok Geeks,

�

Just had a single 450 AP drop all it�s 430 Interop. SM�s over the past
24 Hrs. �Tired of repeating myself a dozen times over and over again with
Cambium support.� It�s very simple.� �If you can solve it great.� 

�

-AP has been working with 13.4 for 6+ months (actually really well)

- All 450 sessions are still up

- All 430 sessions are down and won�t reconnect

- 430 SM�s will connect to other 450 AP�s normally

- Power cycled AP.� Unplugged it.� Factory default and programmed.�
Different FW.� Different power source. etc.

- Same result.� I say replace and RAM.� Support says no, send the CNUT
capture.� 

�

�

Have not seen it before.� New one for me. Cheers!

�

�

�

�

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Franklin, IN 46131 
� 
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Re: [AFMUG] Spam:******, Re: New One - 450 AP Issue

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

LOL.  Ok Mr. Obvious.

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 3:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Spam:**, Re: [AFMUG] New One - 450 AP Issue

 

Just go replace the 430s with 450s, sheesh, do I have to think of everything.

 

From: mailto:t...@franklinisp.net 

Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 1:07 PM

To: memb...@wispa.org   ; af@afmug.com 
  

Subject: [AFMUG] New One - 450 AP Issue

 

Ok Geeks,

 

Just had a single 450 AP drop all it’s 430 Interop. SM’s over the past 24 Hrs.  
Tired of repeating myself a dozen times over and over again with Cambium 
support.  It’s very simple.   If you can solve it great.  

 

-AP has been working with 13.4 for 6+ months (actually really well)

- All 450 sessions are still up

- All 430 sessions are down and won’t reconnect

- 430 SM’s will connect to other 450 AP’s normally

- Power cycled AP.  Unplugged it.  Factory default and programmed.  Different 
FW.  Different power source. etc.

- Same result.  I say replace and RAM.  Support says no, send the CNUT capture. 
 

 

 

Have not seen it before.  New one for me. Cheers!

 

 

 

 

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[AFMUG] New One - 450 AP Issue

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Ok Geeks,

 

Just had a single 450 AP drop all it's 430 Interop. SM's over the past 24
Hrs.  Tired of repeating myself a dozen times over and over again with
Cambium support.  It's very simple.   If you can solve it great.  

 

-AP has been working with 13.4 for 6+ months (actually really well)

- All 450 sessions are still up

- All 430 sessions are down and won't reconnect

- 430 SM's will connect to other 450 AP's normally

- Power cycled AP.  Unplugged it.  Factory default and programmed.
Different FW.  Different power source. etc.

- Same result.  I say replace and RAM.  Support says no, send the CNUT
capture.  

 

 

Have not seen it before.  New one for me. Cheers!

 

 

 

 

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[AFMUG] New J-Arms and Used FSK Canopy Gear - I missed Friday

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30 - Brand New J-Arms  

20 -  2.4 FSK Canopy SM's (Used)

20 - 5.7 FSK Canopy SM's (Used)

 

 

SM's $25 each any QTY

J-Arms $7 each any QTY

 

PLEASE off list only.  

 

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[AFMUG] KP 3.65/5 Ghz Sectors

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Good afternoon,

 

If you have deployed the KP Performance 3.65/5Ghz Dual Sectors, I am curious
how they are working for you.

Also, if you are, did you have to modify any part of the equipment for
proper mounting/installations?  

 

To save tower space, I am considering deploying several but don't won't to
have performance problems.

 

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[AFMUG] ePMP FW 2.61 - Link Test

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Hey guys,

 

Tossing this out to see if others are seeing it or not.  

ALL our ePMP gear is now on FW 2.61.

 

The wireless link capacity testing between AP's and SM's in TDD mode seems
to be much less.  (Maybe 20-50%)

It doesn't seem to have any bearing on the actual throughput.  Speed tests
seem normal, but I plan on doing more tests.

 

Just something odd I noticed.

 

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[AFMUG] For Sale: ePMP 4Pack Dishes C050900H007B

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Taking up space in the back room. We don't use them.

 

4 -  ePMP 4Pack Dishes C050900H007B - Brand New

 

$150 per pack plus shipping - Can ship today.

Off list only please!

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

 or so.   Assuming all of the radios on an injector are either 
ePMP or the newer 450i's, using 56V into a SyncInjector is perfectly acceptable 
and the ePMP's are rated up to 56V as well.

So the summary:   Try a 48VDC voltage source instead of 24V and see what 
happens.   

-forrest



   

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
<t...@franklinisp.net <mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

Hello Cambium,

 

At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs compared 
notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It was very 
interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across the spectrum. 

We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have identified.  
We also understand the firmware RC that has been made available to fix this 
short term.

The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with it.  

 

Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance of the 
product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would prefer a 
full recall and replacement program immediately.

 

If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is 
inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made public. 
 

 

Thank you,

 

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[AFMUG] ePMP 2.6 firmware : 00Park_ePMP03 syslog: PAM _pam_init_handlers: no default config /etc/pam.d/other

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Anyone else getting this in the 2.6 firmware?  What is it? 

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Yes! Same here.  Packet Flux to brick on some sites…almost like a negotiation 
issue when it gets cold.  Cable length isn’t a factor.

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 2:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

 

Yeah yeah :)

 

So - we moved it from a SyncInjector providing ~26V to a Cambium PoE Injector 
providing 30V.  It brought it back to life (at least temporarily).

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Just teasing...

 

From: Josh Baird <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:23 AM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

 

There have been some reports that feeding them with 48V fixes *some* issues.

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Just keep raising the voltage until it starts working dammit!

 

(That is how the first transatlantic telegraph cable got ruined the first week 
of operation).

 

From: Josh Baird <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:08 AM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

 

Tell me about it.. first decent snow here today, and one of our sites is having 
issues (only the ePMP).  I think we have completely lost one AP.  We are going 
to try and feed it 48V (it's currently 24V) and see if that brings it back to 
life.

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
<t...@franklinisp.net <mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

Hello Cambium,

 

At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs compared 
notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It was very 
interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across the spectrum. 

We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have identified.  
We also understand the firmware RC that has been made available to fix this 
short term.

The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with it.  

 

Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance of the 
product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would prefer a 
full recall and replacement program immediately.

 

If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is 
inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made public. 
 

 

Thank you,

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320   Daytime # 
317-412-1540   Cell/Direct # 
Online:  <http://www.surfici.net> www.surfici.net 

 



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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Josh,

 

I heard cpu clock is being messed with.  (you know … rumors)

 

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From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 
Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Cc: memb...@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad 
ePMP units.

 

Why would making the memory faster degrade performance?




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
<t...@franklinisp.net <mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

Hello Cambium,

 

At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs compared 
notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It was very 
interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across the spectrum. 

We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have identified.  
We also understand the firmware RC that has been made available to fix this 
short term.

The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with it.  

 

Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance of the 
product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would prefer a 
full recall and replacement program immediately.

 

If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is 
inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made public. 
 

 

Thank you,

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320   Daytime # 
317-412-1540   Cell/Direct # 
Online:  <http://www.surfici.net> www.surfici.net 

 



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Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

I can tell you the firmware fix did not help at either sites we had issues.  

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 2:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

 

I just did.  Hopefully it stabilizes things.

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com 
<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Have you put the RC firmware on it?

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com 
<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com> > wrote:

This is the only AP on the site that is having problems.  All cable runs are 
the same (~200ft).

 

It has also worked for months up until today.  This problem has suffered the 
management loss/cold temperature problems as well.  

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

Long power run?  Is it possible you're losing 6v?  The radio stops booting at 
20v.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com 
<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yeah yeah :)

 

So - we moved it from a SyncInjector providing ~26V to a Cambium PoE Injector 
providing 30V.  It brought it back to life (at least temporarily).

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Just teasing...

 

From: Josh Baird <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:23 AM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

 

There have been some reports that feeding them with 48V fixes *some* issues.

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Just keep raising the voltage until it starts working dammit!

 

(That is how the first transatlantic telegraph cable got ruined the first week 
of operation).

 

From: Josh Baird <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:08 AM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

 

Tell me about it.. first decent snow here today, and one of our sites is having 
issues (only the ePMP).  I think we have completely lost one AP.  We are going 
to try and feed it 48V (it's currently 24V) and see if that brings it back to 
life.

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
<t...@franklinisp.net <mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

Hello Cambium,

 

At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs compared 
notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It was very 
interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across the spectrum. 

We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have identified.  
We also understand the firmware RC that has been made available to fix this 
short term.

The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with it.  

 

Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance of the 
product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would prefer a 
full recall and replacement program immediately.

 

If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is 
inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made public. 
 

 

Thank you,

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320   Daytime # 
317-412-1540   Cell/Direct # 
Online:  <http://www.surfici.net> www.surfici.net 

 



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[AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Hello Cambium,

 

At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs
compared notes on the 'cold weather' problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It
was very interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across
the spectrum. 

We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have
identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made available
to fix this short term.

The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with it.


 

Our concern is simple.  If your software fix 'degrades' the performance of
the product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would
prefer a full recall and replacement program immediately.

 

If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is
inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made
public.  

 

Thank you,

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 

 



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[AFMUG] New J-Arms for Sale

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Hey guys,

 

If you need them, we have brand new J-Arms to sale.  I don't know what the
going rate is, just hit me up with a reasonable offer that makes you happy
.. plus shipping:

 

3 Boxes - 15 assembled arms in each box.

 

Just taking up space here!

 

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Internet Communications Inc. 
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Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Yep. I got a few.

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 11:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

 

2.6.1rc1 from Sri.

 

I believe he said the MACs have CE in them (000456 CE)




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
<t...@franklinisp.net <mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

What firmware you guys running?  

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 10:39 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

 

>From what I heard this morning I'm confident.  And surprised it can be fixed 
>in software.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 11, 2016 10:28 AM, "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com 
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com> > wrote:

That's promising...


Vlad


On 1/11/2016 9:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

No... it's not a connector issue. Cambium knows about it and they have a fix 
that they're testing.

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Vlad Sedov <v...@atlasok.com 
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com> > wrote:

I don't buy the connector thing, at least not in all cases. I'm looking at the 
output of "debug crashlog" on one of the affected radios, and it does look like 
it's crashing hard. I don't see how it would be a connector issue. Also, we 
have a few sites with zero issues.. Same firmware and everything.


Vlad 



On 1/11/2016 9:20 AM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) wrote:

So is this a cable connector problem?  

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320   Daytime # 
317-412-1540   Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net <http://www.surfici.net> 

 

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!


On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com 
<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yes. 

 

http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-1000/Cold-Weather-Issues/m-p/36592#U36592

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Vlad Sedov <v...@atlasok.com 
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com> > wrote:

Hey folks,

Is anyone having trouble with ePMP (GPS variety) in cold weather? We seem to 
have a few units that started randomly locking up in the middle of the night 
when temps are below freezing. Rebooting seems to clear things up for a day or 
so.


peace

Vlad

 

 

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

What firmware you guys running?  

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 10:39 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

 

>From what I heard this morning I'm confident.  And surprised it can be fixed 
>in software.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 11, 2016 10:28 AM, "Vlad Sedov"  > wrote:

That's promising...


Vlad


On 1/11/2016 9:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

No... it's not a connector issue. Cambium knows about it and they have a fix 
that they're testing.

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Vlad Sedov  > wrote:

I don't buy the connector thing, at least not in all cases. I'm looking at the 
output of "debug crashlog" on one of the affected radios, and it does look like 
it's crashing hard. I don't see how it would be a connector issue. Also, we 
have a few sites with zero issues.. Same firmware and everything.


Vlad 



On 1/11/2016 9:20 AM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) wrote:

So is this a cable connector problem?  

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320   Daytime # 
317-412-1540   Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net  

 

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!


On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Josh Baird  > wrote:

Yes. 

 

http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-1000/Cold-Weather-Issues/m-p/36592#U36592

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Vlad Sedov  > wrote:

Hey folks,

Is anyone having trouble with ePMP (GPS variety) in cold weather? We seem to 
have a few units that started randomly locking up in the middle of the night 
when temps are below freezing. Rebooting seems to clear things up for a day or 
so.


peace

Vlad

 

 

 

 

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[AFMUG] Used Stingers - FREE

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

I have two boxes:  24X18X18  of used Stingers.  Mostly 2.4, but they do have
some 5.7 and 900's as well.

Free to anyone that will use them.  Just pay shipping cost.

 

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[AFMUG] Needing Used 430 and 450 AP's ---> 5.8

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Hit me up, off list, if you have some you don't need.  

 

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[AFMUG] KPPA-3S5HV-90SS / J-Arms / Used 2.4 Canopy SM's / 5780 BH's

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Hey guys,

 

We have two brand new KP Performance antennas (KPPA-3S5HV-90SS).

I have opted not to use the 90's but stick with our 120 deployments.

These have not been deployed, but we did break the boxes down already and
recycled them.  So, I need to come up with a box to ship them in safely.

 

We will repackage and ship to anyone needing them.  I am willing to take a
small loss to get them out of the way.

 

While I am on the subject of recovering shelf space. ICI has:

 

30 J-Arm's / roof mounts brand new we would like to dump for $7 each plus
shipping.

50 Used Canopy 2.4 SM's with 13.4 firmware we would like to dump for $20
each plus shipping.

3 Used Canopy 5780BH50 Complete links with 13.4 firmware we would like to
dump for $250 per link plus shipping.

 

Tackle me off list if interested.

 

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
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Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*******, Re: Cybermonday

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Gino,

 

We ran ads on Facebook as well.  Needless to say, I won’t be doing that for a 
while.  It caught us off guard a bit.  Booked solid for weeks!

I still haven’t responded to all requests.  

 

It’s somewhat of an office joke now.One guy came in last night and said I 
should tell people we don’t sell internet anymore… until we get caught back up. 
 

 

Clearly, I said no to that idea.

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 7:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Spam:***, Re: [AFMUG] Cybermonday

 

What do you think these customers had before they decided to jump on that deal? 
Which BTW is pretty aggressive  

Jon Langeler

Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Dec 2, 2015, at 5:58 AM, Gino Villarini  > wrote:

epmp and 450

 

On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Matt  > wrote:

What gear are you delivering that with?

On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Gino Villarini  > wrote:
> double speed on the basic plan (7/1 to 14/2) $59.95 plus free install
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Josh Reynolds   > wrote:
>>

>> What was the promo?
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2015 8:11 AM, "Gino Villarini" >  > wrote:
>>>
>>> anyone ran any cybermonday sales?
>>>
>>> we did a Facebook promo, 90 new sales
>
>

 

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[AFMUG] 5 Wifi Extenders

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Any of you ever come across a house with this many extenders.  Sounds like
trouble lurking to me.

 

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[AFMUG] Used WISP Gear / New Gear - Make offer off list.

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Cleaning up shelves again. making more room for 3.65 gear:

 

40- 2.4 Canopy SM's available - all used running 13.4 (Used)

10- 5.7 UBNT Rocket M5 Radio's - no dish / running 5.6 (Used)

3- 5.7/5.4 Canopy PTP 230 Links (complete)

4- Sixnet 9-Port Din rail switches (slx-9es-2sc)

 

35 KP Performance J-Arms - no dish (brand new)

2 Boxes ePMP dishes - no radios (brand new)

 

 

No reasonable offer refused.  Off list please.

 

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[AFMUG] ePMP 2.51 and PPPOE

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Good morning,

 

Does the ePMP 2.51 have some quirks?  Seeing some high ping times with PPPoE
customers across small links we swapped out aging UBNT M5's.  

 

Just checking before we do some field testing.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] 450 frame utilization and performance issues

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Ok.  So nothing sticks out as the same except the AP's and firmware.

We use:
KP Antennas Only
Mikrotik Routers
CTM and Sync Injectors

Still love our FSK stuff.  Just can't handle today's demands.  

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-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 2:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 frame utilization and performance issues

Tyson,
1. We are using Cambium stock 65* dualslant antennas.
2. Mix of routers. We have a BYOR (bring your own router) policy.
3. All AP's are sync'd with either CMM4 or CTM2.

Adam,
We will certainly focus more attention on those SM's that have poor modulation. 
It wouldn't surprise me if the most active SM's are the ones stuck at 1x or 2x.

George,
We have not considered downgrading. Our entire network has been upgraded to 
13.4. That over 500 SM's at this point. I'm a little nervous about downgrading.

The reality here is that upgrading a FSK sector to 450 gets us only a little 
over double the capacity. FSK aggregates around 13mb/s and around 27mb/s 
aggregate for the 450. This is quite disappointing. It appears that we must now 
be very selective over what SM's can register. A nearly impossible task in our 
situation. Use caution if you plan on ripping and replacing your old FSK. You 
will not yield the kind of throughput you'd expect.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
<t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
> Eric,
>
> Thanks for bringing this up.  We recently started deploying about 30 450 
> AP's.  Our testing in the field and with customers is producing the same 
> EXACT problem you just reported.
>
> More importantly, we see this problem on AP's with low SM's to high SM ranges 
> (5-45).  Same firmware.
>
> Let's compare some notes:
>
> 1. What antennas are you using?
> 2. What routers / OS are you using?
> 3. What sync source are you using?
>
> We see high frame uses even on the AP's with low SM's and great modulation 
> rates.
> I can understand if a large number of SM's have low modulation it will eat up 
> frames, but the outcome is the same on low and high SM counts.
>
>
>
> Tyson Burris, President
> Internet Communications Inc.
> 739 Commerce Dr.
> Franklin, IN 46131
>
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> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
> Online: www.surfici.net
>
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen
> Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 12:51 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] 450 frame utilization and performance issues
>
> We have a few 450 AP's with 30-40 subscribers and have been getting several 
> slow speed complaints lately. I just chaulked it up to issues with the SM 
> since the AP rarely got over 20mb/s downlink. We upgraded to 13.4 recently so 
> we could watch our frame utilization. We started graphing it over night and 
> as you can see, we are hitting 100% for sustained periods of time. During 
> that time the AP is only doing approx. 23mb/s. This particular AP has 34 
> registered SM and the majority show 6x and 4x with 4 or 5 SM's at 2x and 1x. 
> The performance is a major disappointment. Anyone else have similar 
> experiences?
>
> AP configuration: 20mhz channels, 2.5ms frame, 10 miles, 75% downlink,
> 3 contention slots.
>
> Attached is a screenshot of the utilization and sector throughput calculator 
> from the Capacity Planner R13.
>


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Re: [AFMUG] 450 frame utilization and performance issues

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Eric,

Thanks for bringing this up.  We recently started deploying about 30 450 AP's.  
Our testing in the field and with customers is producing the same EXACT problem 
you just reported.

More importantly, we see this problem on AP's with low SM's to high SM ranges 
(5-45).  Same firmware.

Let's compare some notes:

1. What antennas are you using?
2. What routers / OS are you using?
3. What sync source are you using? 

We see high frame uses even on the AP's with low SM's and great modulation 
rates.
I can understand if a large number of SM's have low modulation it will eat up 
frames, but the outcome is the same on low and high SM counts.



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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 12:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 450 frame utilization and performance issues

We have a few 450 AP's with 30-40 subscribers and have been getting several 
slow speed complaints lately. I just chaulked it up to issues with the SM since 
the AP rarely got over 20mb/s downlink. We upgraded to 13.4 recently so we 
could watch our frame utilization. We started graphing it over night and as you 
can see, we are hitting 100% for sustained periods of time. During that time 
the AP is only doing approx. 23mb/s. This particular AP has 34 registered SM 
and the majority show 6x and 4x with 4 or 5 SM's at 2x and 1x. The performance 
is a major disappointment. Anyone else have similar experiences?

AP configuration: 20mhz channels, 2.5ms frame, 10 miles, 75% downlink,
3 contention slots.

Attached is a screenshot of the utilization and sector throughput calculator 
from the Capacity Planner R13.

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: movie review

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Halo 5 this week.

Call of Duty this week.

Bond Movie this week.

 

None of us will be working. 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 1:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Ot: movie review

 

 

At the new bond flick. Starts in 2 min.

I'll report in l8r. :)

 

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

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Re: [AFMUG] Spam:******, Re: 450 frame utilization and performance issues

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

In some cases (not all) just adding another AP and sector should resolve the 
issue.  

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 1:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Spam:**, Re: [AFMUG] 450 frame utilization and performance issues

If those 1X and 2X downlink SMs are even moderately active, that really throws 
a wrench into the sector performance. This is true on any PMP platform. We've 
seen our fair share of it. We've moved a couple back to FSK which is something 
I never, ever want to do, but it was unfortunately necessary.

On 11/6/2015 11:50 AM, Eric Muehleisen wrote:
> We have a few 450 AP's with 30-40 subscribers and have been getting 
> several slow speed complaints lately. I just chaulked it up to issues 
> with the SM since the AP rarely got over 20mb/s downlink. We upgraded 
> to 13.4 recently so we could watch our frame utilization. We started 
> graphing it over night and as you can see, we are hitting 100% for 
> sustained periods of time. During that time the AP is only doing 
> approx. 23mb/s. This particular AP has 34 registered SM and the 
> majority show 6x and 4x with 4 or 5 SM's at 2x and 1x. The performance 
> is a major disappointment. Anyone else have similar experiences?
>
> AP configuration: 20mhz channels, 2.5ms frame, 10 miles, 75% downlink,
> 3 contention slots.
>
> Attached is a screenshot of the utilization and sector throughput 
> calculator from the Capacity Planner R13.



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[AFMUG] PPPoE Reconnection issues on certain Cloud Core OS versions?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Hey guys (and gals),

 

I am going to toss this on the public realm.  It's bugging me and can be a
support problem at times depending on the OS version.

 

We run PPPoE for our customers with CCR 1306 routers. (latest OS right now)

I have two issues that come up depending on what OS we load or don't load.
I am 

 

1.   Certain OS versions will not let PPPoE accounts auto reconnect when
the router is rebooted (the customer MUST power cycle router to reconnect).
Some versions will simply start dropping customers.  Finally some versions
work great and the PPPoE sessions auto reconnect after a core router reboot.

 

2.   The other issue we see sometimes, depending on OS version, is it
'seems' like the PPPoE customers are being throttled.  The radio burst
settings look good and the AP load is kept down.  Yet on certain versions
the PPPoE assigned speeds can suffer.

 

 

Does anyone else ever see this crap depending on the OS version. or is it a
hardware .. Or firmware issue that causes this?  IDK.

 

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium RMA Form still broke?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Ray,

 

Just my two cents.

It seemed like two months from the RMA contact date until we got our
replacement 450 unit last time.  That is a long time.

I have another bad 450 AP radio that we are submitting this week.  IT sure
would be nice to have either advance replacement options or a faster turn
over time.

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ray Savich
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 3:16 PM
To: 'af@afmug.com' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium RMA Form still broke?

 

Hi Nate,

No need to yell.  We are here. Please contact me at
soluti...@cambiumnetworks.com   any
time.

 

Ray

 

Join the Conversation

Cambium Networks Community Forum  

 

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[AFMUG] SM Up Tilt Solution

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Does anyone have a 'non redneck solution' for giving SM's up tilt when
extremely close to an AP?

 

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Re: [AFMUG] SM Up Tilt Solution

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Employee is reporting 8/6 with a lag bolt under SM and 8/2 without any tilt.  
Yes it will connect but not optimal links.

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 3:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SM Up Tilt Solution

 

They probably don’t need it.  If they are very close, sidelobes will make the 
connection.  

 

 

From: mailto:t...@franklinisp.net 

Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 12:58 PM

To: af@afmug.com   ; memb...@wispa.org 
  

Subject: [AFMUG] SM Up Tilt Solution

 

Does anyone have a ‘non redneck solution’ for giving SM’s up tilt when 
extremely close to an AP?

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*****, Re: OT Campus Shootings

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

I was raised around the farm and guns.  I  was taught how to use them properly. 
 In school, we actually had a class on gun safety and usage.  (not required)  
People are the problem and always will be.  We try to be our own ‘gods’ but 
that will never work.   As Gino pointed out, human beings need to be 
controlled. Laws are only rules or guidelines.  A person with underlying issues 
to begin with will not obey laws.  Even if this country had no access to guns, 
someone with a desire to cause harm will find a way.  Drugs are illegal… how is 
that working out?  

 

Some of you may watch the documentary ‘drugs inc’.   Chicago is a waste land of 
gun violence right now. (mainly drug related)  A recent interview on the show 
struck me as one our biggest problems.   Two young kids dealing on the streets 
admitted they grew up without a ‘good’ parents. People on the streets are their 
family and taught them how to survive.  I won’t even get into the argument 
here, but family values have been turned upside down for years and the trend is 
up.  

 

These two drug dealers  statement echos the real issue here IMHO.  (many will 
disagree)  Parenting is the #1 frontline defense against so many problems.  If 
you parent good, and are fully involved with your kids’ lives a positive 
outcome should result.  

 

The issue I see right now is bad parenting is growing exponentially. We are 
seeing an increase of bad parents raising kids with problems.  Those kids grow 
up and do the same.  They have kids and so forth.  Some are lucky enough to 
break the trend but most don’t.

 

To make matters worse,  social media is a driving force behind so much opinion 
and ideas.  We are all so connected now that a person with underlying desires 
to harm (not just gun related) can easily gain access to things he/she never 
had before.  This drives the problem even further.

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 6:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Spam:*, Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

 

Freedom is not the exercise to choose whatever you want.  Heck then free all 
the child molesters! Human beings need to be controlled, that the whole 
reasoning behind laws.  Im with Jaime and Stefan on this.  

 

On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 6:28 AM, Mike Hammett  > wrote:

There are many items that kill more humans than first world guns.



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http://www.ics-il.com

 


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From: "Stefan Englhardt"  >
To: af@afmug.com  
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 11:21:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

Looking at this with a foreign view I can't understand this "gun love" in US. 
It is not all about the criminals or idiots. Just look at the statistics for 
accidents with weapons. The only way to save lifes is to be very restrictive. 
If someone wants to shoot he can go to a shooting club and leave the weapon 
there. It is not freedom to have a gun at home. It is silly esp. with kids 
around.

You can't avoid killing with banning weapons but you can reduce it. If I need a 
weapon I call for police or security.

 

 

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[AFMUG] Canopy Build 11.1

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Hey guys,

 

Can someone refresh my memory.  What build must I go to on 11.1 OFDM before
we can move on up?

 

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[AFMUG] 5Ghz 430 SM's - Needed Here (5.8 Ghz not 5.4!)

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

If you have some to sell and are confident they are in good working order
hit me up.  I am a buyer for these still.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Spam:********, Re: Radio Equipment For Sale

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Yes,

 

I have tons of them.  We don’t use them for every install.  I need to keep my 
shelf space free for new gear coming in.

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Cc: memb...@wispa.org
Subject: Spam:, Re: [AFMUG] Radio Equipment For Sale

 

You're selling Jpoles???




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
<t...@franklinisp.net <mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

Clearing some space out today.   All used gear except J Mounts and UBNT Radios.

 

Canopy FSK 2.4 SM 

Canopy FSK 5.7 SM

Canopy FSK 900 APC

 

Canopy 5280 BH50 – 3 Complete Links Available

JMounts – 12 New

UBNT Rocket M2 – 2 New and 1 Used

 

We also have 20-30 used stingers if you need any.

 

Needing the space.  No reasonable offer refused.  

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Radio Equipment For Sale

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

I didn't put Qty of each, sorry about that.  Hit me up off list.  I have
tons of this stuff.

 

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From: Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc [mailto:t...@franklinisp.net]

Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:44 AM
To: 'memb...@wispa.org' <memb...@wispa.org>; 'af@afmug.com' <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Radio Equipment For Sale

 

Clearing some space out today.   All used gear except J Mounts and UBNT
Radios.

 

Canopy FSK 2.4 SM 

Canopy FSK 5.7 SM

Canopy FSK 900 APC

 

Canopy 5280 BH50 - 3 Complete Links Available

JMounts - 12 New

UBNT Rocket M2 - 2 New and 1 Used

 

We also have 20-30 used stingers if you need any.

 

Needing the space.  No reasonable offer refused.  

 

 

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[AFMUG] Radio Equipment For Sale

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Clearing some space out today.   All used gear except J Mounts and UBNT
Radios.

 

Canopy FSK 2.4 SM 

Canopy FSK 5.7 SM

Canopy FSK 900 APC

 

Canopy 5280 BH50 - 3 Complete Links Available

JMounts - 12 New

UBNT Rocket M2 - 2 New and 1 Used

 

We also have 20-30 used stingers if you need any.

 

Needing the space.  No reasonable offer refused.  

 

 

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[AFMUG] Trailers and Dishes

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

What's your experience with trailers and dish mounting?  Any tricks you
have?

 

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[AFMUG] 4 Sale - Brand New ePMP 25 dBi Dishes

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

 

Brand new and still in the box.

ePMP 25 dBi Dishes (no radios) 

Qty 8  Total (2 Boxes) - We don't need them.

 

Make an offer off list.  Can ship today if needed.

 

Cheers!

 

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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Drones Inspections

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Again…

 

I spoke to the FAA field engineer in Indianapolis.  He made this pretty clear 
to me:

 

1.   IF for commercial use (you get paid to do job X), you must have 
Section 333 exemption and have a private license.

2.   IF you are a WISP doing this for your own towers, you cannot get a 
Section 333 exemption.  You must have an assigned aircraft number to your drone 
and have a private license. Your operation is consider normal flight operation 
just like any other aircraft. You MUST stay below 200 ft. or notify of intent 
to fly higher. (drones only)

3.   IF you are flying for hobby, you can have at it up to x feet. (real 
logical to me – not)

 

Next year the rules will all change.  He said they hope to have some kind of 
test in place that you take/pass and your good.  

I don’t really like this idea but it’s not my call.

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of can...@believewireless.net
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 11:28 AM
To: memb...@wispa.org
Cc: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Drones  Inspections

 

I have a customer that contacted the FAA and said they wanted to do this on 
their own property and the FAA said

it was fine. (I even overheard the call.) They had the local PD sign off as 
well and everything went fine. The main

concern was that no money was changing hands and stay below 400 ft.

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Drones Inspections

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

I think you apply for a section 333 exemption. no?

 

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From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Eric Rogers
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 2:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com; memb...@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] [AFMUG] Drones  Inspections

 

I thought the commercial use (for hire) was only authorized with a
commercially licensed pilot.  Hobbyists have raised the question to the FAA,
but I didn't think there were any rulings.  I would love to use a drone, but
I also don't want fines from the FAA, along with risking fines from the FCC.

 

I know Mark Radabaugh was telling me some about this.  Maybe he can chime in
here.

 

Eric Rogers



www.pdsconnect.me

(317) 831-3000 x200

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Burris @ Internet
Communications Inc
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 2:19 PM
To: memb...@wispa.org; af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Drones  Inspections

 

How many of you guys are using drones for tower inspections and reviews? 

I got a guy wanting to know how common it is and if it's worth starting a
business over.

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Drones Inspections

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

I just confirmed the following for commercial use:

 

333 Exemption

Private Pilot license

 

If you have both your golden.

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List 
Account)
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 2:46 PM
To: af af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drones  Inspections

 

The FAA rules make this difficult.   Last I checked using a drone commercially 
is a big no-no.   

On Jul 30, 2015 12:18 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
t...@franklinisp.net mailto:t...@franklinisp.net  wrote:

How many of you guys are using drones for tower inspections and reviews? 

I got a guy wanting to know how common it is and if it’s worth starting a 
business over.

 

 

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[AFMUG] Drones Inspections

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

How many of you guys are using drones for tower inspections and reviews? 

I got a guy wanting to know how common it is and if it's worth starting a
business over.

 

 

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[AFMUG] MT Router Guru's

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Any reason why I cannot run anything above OS 6.25 on a CCR1306 without
PPPoE sessions going haywire?

6.25 'appears' to be nice and stable.  

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Indiana Regional WISP Meeting - July 24

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

We can chat about you taking me out to eat.  That's a worthy chat.

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 10:59 AM
To: 'af@afmug.com'
Subject: [AFMUG] Indiana Regional WISP Meeting - July 24

 

Not sure if any of you are planning to go, but I will be at the WISPA
meeting in Indianapolis on Friday if anyone wants to chat.

 

(or maybe this information will cause you to stay far far away from this
meeting :))

 

Matt Mangriotis

Senior Product Manager
Cambium Networks
3800 Golf Road, Suite 360

Rolling Meadows, IL 60008

 

 http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/ www.cambiumnetworks.com
O: 847-439-6379

M: 630-308-9394
E:  mailto:m...@cambiumnetworks.com m...@cambiumnetworks.com



 

Join the Conversation

 http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/ Cambium Networks Community Forum

 

[AFMUG] Cambium RMA Rant

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Cambium.

 

Give me a break.  You make us fill out an RMA form online which includes
data about the radio to begin with.

Then your support team calls to verify the problems.

Then the same support team sends a text document asking for the data again?

 

Please call somebody at UBNT to help you simplify the process online with
quick return processing.  Ok?

 

Rant over.  

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Clarify this Matt…

 

Alignment tone 430 SM to 450 AP now?

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4

 

We spent a LOT of time on those George… we nailed many of them cold in 13.4.  
Please let us know if you’re still seeing them (“watchdog reset” can mean lots 
of things, there were a couple of cases that we couldn’t reproduce).

 

Regarding the “Adobe connecting to review server” thing… ignore it.  That was 
likely an oversight on our part.  We use that server to allow multiple folks to 
review and comment on the release notes (you know, for version control, 
collaboration, etc.).  We were rushing a bit to get the documentation over the 
finish line this week before the holiday.

 

Alignment tone is there and working!

 

Let us know if you guys find anything else we should know about, this one was a 
long time coming… but we’re proud of the finished product.  Enjoy.

 

Happy 4th of July to all!

 

Matt

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 9:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4

 

Hopefully the watchdog resets on 450 APs goes away. That is getting stupid on 
13.2.1. Just had another one about 10 minutes ago.

On 7/2/2015 7:50 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:

We have been running 13.4 build 11 for some time now.   I have not seen any 
major issues with it.   

 

The 450 build works fine on the 430 AP’s.

 

The only thing that I know was a problem was P8 FSK radios bricking when 
upgraded to build 11.   I have not read the release notes to see if the release 
version addresses that problem.

 

Mark

 

 

On Jul 2, 2015, at 6:10 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com 
mailto:part15...@gmail.com  wrote:

 

There is an announcement on the 430 page that the 450 load should be used on 
430s needing to connect to a 450 AP.

How is this supposed to be managed? Is there a reason to actually load the 430 
firmware on a 430 (anything)?




bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
 

On 7/2/2015 3:02 PM, George Skorup wrote:

I'm just about to look through the release notes. And then GTFO here for the 
long weekend!

They said the alignment tone issue required a new FPGA build. Guess they got it 
done for 13.4. AFAIK, this was only on the 450, PMP100 wasn't affected. Maybe 
it messed up the 430 too?

Combined firmware? You mean for 430 and 450? I guess so. But FSK is still a 
separate package.

On 7/2/2015 4:53 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:

Definitely different than before. There are mentions of the alignment tone 
being fixed in the release notes but I'm not sure if it's for PMP450 or PMP100 
or what. Now that it's all combined firmware. 

 

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com 
mailto:af...@kwisp.com  wrote:

Is it just me, or was this distributed differently than in the past?  I don’t 
remember .zip files with the release notes inside.  Also when I opened the 
release notes, Adobe Reader wanted to connect to a “review server” and share my 
email address etc. with all other reviewers.  WTF?  Did I just hit some hotkey 
accidentally?

 

Also, I don’t see anything in the release notes about SM alignment tone.  
Didn’t this break from 13.2.1 to 13.3?  To be fixed in 13.4?  Or is my brain 
just not working today.  I thought it was 13.3 and all its progeny were dead to 
me because I can’t live without oxygen, water, and alignment tone.

 

Lots of cool stuff in 13.4, like sector wide SA, but I need my alignment tone.

 

 

From: Ryan Ray mailto:ryan...@gmail.com  

Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:11 PM

To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com  

Subject: [AFMUG] Software 13.4

 

Who's gonna be the first guinea pig? Make sure to do a 1000 unit upgrade and 
let us know how it goes :P 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Just think of the number of IP’s assigned to organizations, but not being used.

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 8:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

 


REMAINING IPV4 INVENTORY


Discrete Block Size (CIDR)

Number of Blocks Available


/23

59


/24

437

 



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From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 7:57:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

Iirc there were 34x /24 left when I last looked a couple weeks ago.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jul 1, 2015 8:55 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com 
mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com  wrote:

Almost...There's not much left...

https://www.arin.net/resources/request/ipv4_countdown.html




Regards,
Chuck

 

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 3:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com  wrote:

So how does this work? The boss dicked me on prior request. Will arin start 
enforcing allocations and recover the pirate space? I just got a /24 from our 
upstream but that's going away in the near term when they do some magic, I 
freed most of our /22 to reallocate appropriately for a request, with a lot of 
Nat. Is Xerox going to have to give up their bazillion before they tank me on 
our space? Does ip6 even NAT bro?
On Jun 30, 2015 11:17 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com mailto:t...@voltbb.com 
 wrote:

 well ipv4 is officially gone. has anyone done any private ipv4 acquisitions? 
 or black market? lol

 

 

[AFMUG] For Sale - Need to clear up some shelf space

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

I need to sale/clear out the following items taking up space at the office:

 

Brand New - J-Arm's for dish mounts 

Brand New - UBNT POE 24V

Brand New - Force 110 Dishes 

 

I also have some used.

 

BH Complete Links 5480's

BH Complete Links 5780's

 

No reasonable offered refused.  I need some space for new gear!

 

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Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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[AFMUG] ePMP Model Numbers

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Anyone know the differences between these two model numbers?  

 

C050900A011A

C058900P112A

 

They seem identical but price isn't.

 

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ePMP Model Numbers

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Ok thanks,

 

That is resolved.

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sriram Chaturvedi
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 9:42 AM
To: AFMUG
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ePMP Model Numbers

 

Mike is correct. 

 

They are both 5 GHz Connectorized Radio with Sync. But:

011A is ROW (Rest Of the World) for sale/use in countries that do not follow 
FCC or ETSI regulations

112A is FCC for sale/use in countries that follow FCC regulations

 

FYI, all the model numbers are listed in the ePMP Release Notes for quick 
reference.


Thanks,
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On Jun 29, 2015, at 4:35 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net 
mailto:af...@ics-il.net  wrote:

 

The datasheet does list one as FCC and the other as International. C050900A011A 
is an FCC GPS sync. Not sure what the other one is other than International as 
I can't find it many places.



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From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net 
mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net 
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com 
Cc: memb...@wispa.org mailto:memb...@wispa.org 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 8:28:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ePMP Model Numbers

Oops sorry, my mistake, both are 5GHZ, containerized with GPS...

 

The best I can tell from the Data sheets, that one is FCC/US model and the 
other is International ?

 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net  

 

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From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net 
mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net 
To: memb...@wispa.org mailto:memb...@wispa.org 
Cc: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 9:18:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ePMP Model Numbers

 

 

C050900A011A ... Connectorized 5ghz Radio

C058900P112A Connectorized 5ghz Radio w/GPS Sync.

 

 

aka, first one for CPE, the 2nd one for AP.

 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net  

 


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From: Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc t...@franklinisp.net 
mailto:t...@franklinisp.net 
To: memb...@wispa.org mailto:memb...@wispa.org 
Cc: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 9:13:40 AM
Subject: [WISPA Members] ePMP Model Numbers

 

Anyone know the differences between these two model numbers? 

 

C050900A011A

C058900P112A

 

They seem identical but price isn’t.

 

 

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net http://www.surfici.net/ 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ePMP Model Numbers

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Yes, that’s what I thought.

My issue was…

 

One can be bought for $399 and up

The other is $200 and up

 

Yet,  they appear to be the same damn radio.  ?? 

 

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 9:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ePMP Model Numbers

 

The datasheet does list one as FCC and the other as International. C050900A011A 
is an FCC GPS sync. Not sure what the other one is other than International as 
I can't find it many places.



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mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net 
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com 
Cc: memb...@wispa.org mailto:memb...@wispa.org 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 8:28:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ePMP Model Numbers

Oops sorry, my mistake, both are 5GHZ, containerized with GPS...

 

The best I can tell from the Data sheets, that one is FCC/US model and the 
other is International ?

 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net  

 

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From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net 
mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net 
To: memb...@wispa.org mailto:memb...@wispa.org 
Cc: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 9:18:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ePMP Model Numbers

 

 

C050900A011A ... Connectorized 5ghz Radio

C058900P112A Connectorized 5ghz Radio w/GPS Sync.

 

 

aka, first one for CPE, the 2nd one for AP.

 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net  

 


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From: Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc t...@franklinisp.net 
mailto:t...@franklinisp.net 
To: memb...@wispa.org mailto:memb...@wispa.org 
Cc: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 9:13:40 AM
Subject: [WISPA Members] ePMP Model Numbers

 

Anyone know the differences between these two model numbers? 

 

C050900A011A

C058900P112A

 

They seem identical but price isn’t.

 

 

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
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Re: [AFMUG] Spam:************, Re: 450 SM and 430 AP

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

AND… you cannot tone your 430 SM to a 450 AP.  Which, BTW, really pi$$ed me off.

 

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 5:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Spam:, Re: [AFMUG] 450 SM and 430 AP

 

No, this will not work.

 

The other way (PMP 450 AP to PMP 430 SMs) works, and is known as 
Interoperability Mode, but connecting a PMP 450 SM to a PMP 430 AP does not 
work (and never has, sorry Lewis).

 

Matt

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 3:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 SM and 430 AP

 

Initially they could. I assume the newer software still let's them but I don't 
know for sure.

 

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015, 3:01 PM SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com 
mailto:li...@smarterbroadband.com  wrote:

OL, I think I know the answer, but just to be sure.

 

Can a 450 5.7 SM connect to a 430 5.7 AP?

[AFMUG] Routers Question

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

For the router gurus..which I am not a part of:

 

Does Router0S 6.27 or 6.28 have any known issues handling PPPoE and
bandwidth?

Are speed tests reduced under this OS?  

 

Does anyone have a pipe beyond 1GB that I can max my routers connection on?
(offlist)

 

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Routers Question

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Glen, 

 

What kind of issues did you see on 6.28?

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 5:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routers Question

 

I can't comment on PPoE or serious bandwidth, but I did notice some issues
with 6.28 in my network. I dropped back to 6.27 rather than deal with
downtime while troubleshooting.

 

 

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To: memb...@wispa.org mailto:memb...@wispa.org  ; af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com  

Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 4:00 PM

Subject: [AFMUG] Routers Question

 

For the router gurus..which I am not a part of:

 

Does Router0S 6.27 or 6.28 have any known issues handling PPPoE and
bandwidth?

Are speed tests reduced under this OS?  

 

Does anyone have a pipe beyond 1GB that I can max my routers connection on?
(offlist)

 

 

 

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Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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[AFMUG] ePMP radios for sale

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

I have some 5Ghz Integrated ePMP 1000 radios for sale.  Hit me up if you
need any. Make an offer.

 

6 NIB

4 Used

 

We use 450 gear for customers.

 

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[AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

General question here.  I saw something in the Cambium forum questioning the
reliability of Packet flux Sync Injectors.

 

If you use them, are your GPS syncs stable and is power output reliable on
the 450 and ePMP gear? 

 

 

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[AFMUG] Used Equipment: New Room For My 450 Gear

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Good afternoon,

 

I have some new and used gear that is taking up shelf space.  I am willing
to sell to a fellow WISP first.  Please make reasonable offer for what may
interest you.  If radios are listed, they have the current firmware loaded.
Assume we pay shipping when making offer:

 

 

Cambium 5480 BH50: 2 Complete Links Available

Cambium 5780 BH50: 2 Complete Links Available

 

Cambium 5Ghz 65 Degree PMP400/430 Sectors:  4 Units Available

Part # 85010104001

 

MaxxWave MT Router (RouterMaxx 1206-L4): 3 Units Available

 

Cambium ePMP 5Ghz Integrated SM:  4 Units Available Used

 6 Units
Available NEW

 

Cambium 430 579020 (20MB SM): 6 Units Available

 

 

Thanks for looking!

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

I may have been provided bad information but…..

 

I know of a WISP/Security Systems provider that apparently has more customers 
and cash than all of us combined.  It’s not JAB.

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 1:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming

 

Just want to point something out real quick...

A lot of people on this and other lists talk about JAB like they are some kind 
of massive, rolling behemoth with a gazillion subscribers and trillions in the 
bank. The kind of place that has it's own militarized security forces, 
Ferrari's for interns, crispy creme every morning, and hands out Sam Adams 
during lunch.

Okay, maybe not that extreme, but anyway...

To put things in perspective, if you were to talk to anybody who works at an 
actually large ISP or Carrier for that matter, JAB is tiny.

JAB is literally the size, speaking purely by number of customers, that many 
ISPs have in a few mile radius.

I understand that they cover a fairly large area, and that some manufacturers 
in our industry will even  bend the knee  to get their business... And maybe 
rightfully so...

But yeah, 250,000-350,000 sub's to many ISPs is a tiny drop in the bucket.

On April 15, 2015 7:06:15 AM AKDT, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com 
mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com  wrote:
http://www.risebroadband.net/

T6 was on there too I think. Still no sign of Digis. I'm wondering if
they have decided to keep some of the brands.

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com 
mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com  wrote:

 This is Jab. This is the new name that Jab is consolidating all of
their
 companies under. They have over a quarter million customers, they
don't
 need no stinkin' coverage maps!

 On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com 
 mailto:cc...@wispmon.com 
wrote:

 Another website that doesn't tell where it is available, and you
can't
 even figure it out based on a contact address as there isn't one of
those
 either, or a phone number, or even email address. Why do wisps do
this?
 Believe it or not, your web site is actually on the World Wide Web
and
 people outside of your community may come across it. I highly
encourage all
 of you to describe where you provide service, and not just a county
name,
 because I'm sure every county is unique, right?

 On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com 
 mailto:af...@kwisp.com  wrote:

 http://www.riseiscoming.com/

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Re: [AFMUG] ePmP FW 2.4 bug?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

LOL. Well that might be an issue.  

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 5:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePmP FW 2.4 bug?

 

Probably.

 

But seriously, I'm not sure you can really specify manual gigabit?  I thought 
gigabit had to be negotiated.




 

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc 
t...@franklinisp.net mailto:t...@franklinisp.net  wrote:

Is there a bug in the 2.4 firmware that locks you out of the ePMP IF MANUAL AND 
1000 is set?

Sent from my iPhone

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Here is my ePMP Rant:  

1. Give me alignment tone.  That is all.
2. Yesterday Cambium was looking at a throughput issue (probably Ethernet)
on one of our Force 110 links.  I was told we had the best configured ePMP
PTP link ever seen worldwide.  

Not sure what to think about that comment.  Do I brag about it or do I run
like hell.


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-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 11:09 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

Weekly Rant
So I'm whiling away the hours programming EPMP radios and assembling Force
Dishes, and it occurred to me that this truly is 'Telco Grade equipment'.
After seeing what the Telco Guys use, and watching how they work, I can only
imagine that this equipment is specifically designed for use by people 'paid
by the hour', Probably at Union scale.

Well, I've programmed a radio, and assembled a dish, Time for a break
before I go to install it

I'm guessing there's some sort of regulation specifying how long it needs to
take to assemble equipment so that job's aren't done 'too quick' so it can
easily fill an entire day.

/Weekly Rant


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Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

L:)L  yep.  ePIMP

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 5:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

 

Like an ePiMP. 

On Mar 24, 2015 4:37 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
t...@franklinisp.net mailto:t...@franklinisp.net  wrote:

I should add it’s still getting 190/90 on the wireless link test… like a pimp.

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 2:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

 

What are the UDP tests showing?  Is it set to flexible or fixed?  It kind of 
sounds like one direction is tanked with noise (hence why TCP has problems but 
UDP may heavy be one way).

 

I had the *OPPOSITE* experience.  Ubnt link couldn't do shit (under 5mbps 
aggregate) and the Force110 link is doing more like 50+.




 

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Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
t...@franklinisp.net mailto:t...@franklinisp.net  wrote:

Have any of you seen something like this?

 

Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.

-56 running link test around 190/90

No Ethernet errors

UDP router to router test great

TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)

Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most

 

Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem and no issues

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

I should add it’s still getting 190/90 on the wireless link test… like a pimp.

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 2:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

 

What are the UDP tests showing?  Is it set to flexible or fixed?  It kind of 
sounds like one direction is tanked with noise (hence why TCP has problems but 
UDP may heavy be one way).

 

I had the *OPPOSITE* experience.  Ubnt link couldn't do shit (under 5mbps 
aggregate) and the Force110 link is doing more like 50+.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
t...@franklinisp.net mailto:t...@franklinisp.net  wrote:

Have any of you seen something like this?

 

Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.

-56 running link test around 190/90

No Ethernet errors

UDP router to router test great

TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)

Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most

 

Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem and no issues

 

 

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Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
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Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Josh,

 

UDP can do 100Mb easy  (although I see these random drops in the UDP chart like 
it dies for a second)

TCP barely hits 20Mb

 

I have tried flex and 75/25

I have tried auto on both Ethernet sides and locked to 100

 

Changed cable, ports etc.

 

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 2:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

 

What are the UDP tests showing?  Is it set to flexible or fixed?  It kind of 
sounds like one direction is tanked with noise (hence why TCP has problems but 
UDP may heavy be one way).

 

I had the *OPPOSITE* experience.  Ubnt link couldn't do shit (under 5mbps 
aggregate) and the Force110 link is doing more like 50+.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
t...@franklinisp.net mailto:t...@franklinisp.net  wrote:

Have any of you seen something like this?

 

Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.

-56 running link test around 190/90

No Ethernet errors

UDP router to router test great

TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)

Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most

 

Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem and no issues

 

 

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Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 tel:317-738-0320  Daytime # 
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[AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Have any of you seen something like this?

 

Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.

-56 running link test around 190/90

No Ethernet errors

UDP router to router test great

TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)

Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most

 

Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem and no
issues

 

 

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Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
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Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*******, People still deploying 430SMs ??

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Paul,

 

We are buying them up cheap.  Good product for small sites.

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 9:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Spam:***, [AFMUG] People still deploying 430SMs ??

 

Those of you with 430 / 450 networks, are you still deploying 430 SMs or are
you switching everything to 450SMS (and APs) ??

 

I have a bunch of 430SMs (and APs) and am debating on whether to keep
deploying them or cut over?  I would think there is still a lot of life in a
solid platform that can do 40+Mbit.

 

Hmmm.

 

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PDMNet / Florida Broadband 

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

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Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Feedhorn

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

How about C4?

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 1:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Feedhorn

 

They might be but seem to be working fine in the field. I didn't have to get 
pumped on my bowflex just to deploy one either.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Feedhorn

 

itelite feels super cheap to me.  Just a heads up.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mar 13, 2015 11:55 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com 
mailto:atrimm...@precisionds.com  wrote:

Not sure of a better option other than maybe trying the ITElite panels. We've 
mauled a few of the dainty pigtails off the feedhorns but haven't broke the 
tabs yet. 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf 
Of Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 9:01 AM
To: memb...@wispa.org mailto:memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Force 110 Feedhorn

 

Good morning,

 

For those of you using Force 110’s… Are you still having trouble with these 
Feedhorn tabs breaking?

Has anyone developed a better dish for these radios?

 

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Internet Communications Inc. 
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[AFMUG] Force 110 Feedhorn

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Good morning,

 

For those of you using Force 110's. Are you still having trouble with these
Feedhorn tabs breaking?

Has anyone developed a better dish for these radios?

 

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Internet Communications Inc. 
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Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ack....here we go again

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Sweet Home Alabama.

Roll Tide Jay.  When is the next meeting.  I want to come.

 

Time to hit the Sea-N-Suds on a 95’ day.  

 

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From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 
CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 3:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Cc: memb...@wispa.org; tel...@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA Members] ackhere we go again

 

 

the sun has come out and it's 74.  why am i sitting here?  its no longer foggy 
and gloomy like it was all morning.

need to go enjoy this four hours of sanity ; ice and snow returns tonight!!

 

(i kid you not)

 



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To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com  

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:43 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Welcome to the Af mailing list

 

 

well lookee here!

 

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From: Rick Harnish mailto:rharn...@fibertothefarm.com  

To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com  

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:27 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Welcome to the Af mailing list

 

Test, I'm back!


Respectively,

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Re: [AFMUG] The ePMP experience...

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Mike Hammett is that you?  It sure looks like it.

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 9:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] The ePMP experience...

 

After using the ePMP platform this is what it makes me feel like... 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq2NEY2ppiQ

 




 

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Wavelinc Communications

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 http://www.wavelinc.com/ http://www.wavelinc.com

tel. 419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110

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Re: [AFMUG] Best price for att full gig?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Can you transport back to a datacenter?

Cogent offers 1Gb cheap.  $700-$900 is the going rate.

 

 

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Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 7:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Best price for att full gig?

 

What's the best price you guys have seen for a full gig with att?

Thanks in advance 

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[AFMUG] FCC Live Link

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Big show today.  Put your votes in and grab your favorite drink.

 

http://www.fcc.gov/live

 

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

That was over before it started.  

No changes tomorrow…. 

 

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Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 1:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

 

will they be providing free stitches for the rectal tears?

 

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net 
mailto:sterl...@avative.net  wrote:

You know what chairman? 

 

Just exempt everyone from this regulation except the top 10 including Comcast.

 

“Problem” solved.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf 
Of That One Guy
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

 

The interweb apparently has not been trucking along this far without a referree 
on the field.

 

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net 
mailto:gwl...@cngwireless.net  wrote:

We need to figure out a way for everyone to protest it rather than bend over.

 

Just another regulation to shut down the little guys. We're not big enough to 
pad their wallets and they don't want us to be big enough to become a thorn in 
their side.

 

Either greed and the buddy system or just another socialist push.

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Sterling Jacobson mailto:sterl...@avative.net  

To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com  

Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:41 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

 

None of us need that parity, do we? I get along just fine without it.

 

And it comes with so many strings and fees that it will bomb many ISPs IMO.

 

I just heard that it does NOT exclude smaller size ISPs. 

 

Everyone get ready to file more paperwork, pay more taxes on gross profits, and 
adding more network protocols and tools to let the government in on our 
networks.

 

All bad.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

 

But, there is an opportunity for all of you to claim parity with the ILEC world 
if they do this.  

 

From: Glen Waldrop mailto:gwl...@cngwireless.net  

Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:34 AM

To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

 

I caught the end of Pai.

As O'Reilly said, they're skipping a bunch of stuff. Coverage isn't even 100% 
yet and they're already screwing it up with red tape.

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Sterling Jacobson mailto:sterl...@avative.net  

To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com  

Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:31 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

 

Holy hell, that speech and position of Ajit Pai is my definite opinion. 

 

He’s my new hero.

 

Michael O’Rielly is also starting off strong against this Title II crap.

 

The strongest point I get from this is that the new law isn’t fully disclosed 
but being passed regardless and pushes special interest.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

 

This guy seems to be spot on so far as well.

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com  

To: Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com  

Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:24 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

 

Installing rocket 
..keep it coming

Jaime Solorza

On Feb 26, 2015 10:17 AM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net 
mailto:sterl...@avative.net  wrote:

Who’s the guy talking right now?

 

He is addressing the concerns of WISPs and small ISP directly.

 

I think he is definitely spot on.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf 
Of Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com 
Cc: memb...@wispa.org mailto:memb...@wispa.org 
Subject: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

 

Big show today.  Put your votes in and grab your favorite drink.

 

http://www.fcc.gov/live

 

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 tel:317-738-0320  Daytime # 
317-412-1540 tel:317

Re: [AFMUG] Wisp America Updates?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

I did not attend the show.  However, I have spoken to others in attendance. 

It's my understanding that the Telrad product is worth looking at.  I was
also told the Venue was very nice.

 

What caught my attention though was several comments about the lack of
organization and support. This may not be a majority opinion but it came up
on several fronts.

I guess several vendors are a little upset and someone said the room blocks
aren't being charged right.

The word 'Drama' was also used. A reference was made about Trina.

 

With the loss of Rick, I feared this would happen.  The board should just
apologize and put him back in place.  I worry about Vegas this year. 

 

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 9:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Wisp America Updates?

 

Anybody find some cool, new stuff at Wisp America?

 

I had to stay behind and keep the wheels spinning.

 

Paul McCall, Pres.

PDMNet / Florida Broadband 

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800 office

772-473-0352 cell

www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/ 

pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Wisp America Updates?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Agreed.

 

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From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 
Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:58 AM
To: memb...@wispa.org
Cc: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] [AFMUG] Wisp America Updates?

 

I predict things will get very hot when board election time comes. Lots of 
people will have lots of questions revolving around what happened at the end of 
2014. The rug will be peeled back to see what was swept under.



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From: Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc t...@franklinisp.net 
mailto:t...@franklinisp.net 
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com 
Cc: memb...@wispa.org mailto:memb...@wispa.org 
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 9:20:30 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] [AFMUG] Wisp America Updates?

I did not attend the show.  However, I have spoken to others in attendance. 

It’s my understanding that the Telrad product is worth looking at.  I was also 
told the Venue was very nice.

 

What caught my attention though was several comments about the lack of 
organization and support. This may not be a majority opinion but it came up on 
several fronts.

I guess several vendors are a little upset and someone said the room blocks 
aren’t being charged right.

The word ‘Drama’ was also used… A reference was made about Trina.

 

With the loss of Rick, I feared this would happen.  The board should just 
apologize and put him back in place.  I worry about Vegas this year. 

 

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net http://www.surfici.net  

 



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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 9:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Wisp America Updates?

 

Anybody find some cool, new stuff at Wisp America?

 

I had to stay behind and keep the wheels spinning.

 

Paul McCall, Pres.

PDMNet / Florida Broadband 

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800 office

772-473-0352 cell

www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/ 

pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net 

 

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[AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Employee Question:

 

How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart
phone usage?

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
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[AFMUG] Net Neutrality - CNN front page

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/02/technology/net-neutrality-fcc/index.html

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] 450 Mounting Brackets

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Yep, thanks.  On the way now.

 

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From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 
Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 10:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Cc: memb...@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] [AFMUG] 450 Mounting Brackets

 

The MTI mount?  LMG has new ones.  I've got a box with the model if you can't 
find it.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 22, 2015 10:42 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
t...@franklinisp.net mailto:t...@franklinisp.net  wrote:

Good morning,

 

Need some 450 Mounting brackets so we can attach the AP’s to the standoff.

I am looking for ideas that will work with the KP Performance antennas.

 

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Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
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