Re: [AFMUG] AirOS partial config?

[Matt Hoppes]

Change a few things on several hundred radios without UNMS?  So you’re planning 
to log into several hundred radios by hand, hit upload, hit apply and verify it 
came back?

How about just write a quick Python script to SSH into the radio, sed the 
config file with the changes you want to make, and save. 

You’ll then have a script to make mass changes in the future. Not hard at all. 

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 21:46, George Skorup  wrote:
> 
> Yeah... except it doesn't work, at least on 6.1.6. Pull out the stuff I don't 
> want to overwrite, upload the file and... SSID, WPA2 key, traffic shaping, 
> device name, etc. all gone. They just go to factory default values. Except 
> for what's in the config file, VLANs, bridges, etc. Not very helpful. This is 
> friggin stupid.
> 
>> On 4/12/2018 7:57 PM, Steve Jones   wrote:
>> Thata why you pull everything youre not changing
>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 5:09 PM George Skorup  
>>> wrote:
>>> Ugh. This is what was tripping me up:
>>> 
>>> radio.1.status=enabled
>>> radio.status=enabled
>>> 
>>> has to be in the config file or the very vague "invalid" crap comes up.
>>> 
>>> Lame.
>>> 
 On 4/12/2018 4:14 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
 I want in on that
 
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 4:12 PM George Skorup  
> wrote:
> The config file definitely has unix formatting, which is why I'm editing 
> it with vi.
> 
> I don't want this to end up changing the SSIDs, WPA keys, device names, 
> etc. So I strip out those elements, save, upload and I get Invalid 
> configuration file structure.
> 
> And yes, I'm using the upload configuration button right below the 
> download configuration button.
> 
> I'm bout to get my .308 out and shoot these things off the towers.
> 
>> On 4/11/2018 10:58 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>> Did you use regular notepad? That fiddles with text configs sometimes, 
>> notepad++ does not
>> 
>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:56 PM   George Skorup 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Yeah that's exactly what I'm trying to do. Management and data VLANs. 
>>> Management address from static to DHCP. I was thinking this would 
>>> qualify as some pretty basic changes. Apparently not.
>>> 
>>> We upgraded everything to 6.1.6. I set up an NSM5, downloaded the 
>>> backup and stripped the device-specific stuff. Go import it and it says 
>>> invalid. WTF. I don't know. I'll screw with it more tomorrow.
>>> 
 On 4/11/2018 10:37 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
 For those with simple configs it's probably fine.
 
 If you have several interfaces and vlans per CPE with a few bridges, 
 it's more of a pain (from experience).
 
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:29 PM Steve Jones 
>  wrote:
> All the config file does is populate the listed fields. Anything not 
> listed it doesnt change. Thats why you have to apply it but you can 
> edit it still after loading it. Id pull a fresh config file from one 
> of the units and edit it, removing anything you dont want changed. It 
> could just be a change in a field name
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:26 PM Mathew Howard  
>> wrote:
>> I'm not sure how you would use a partial config... I think that it 
>> would just use defaults for anything that was missing. 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:56 PM Josh Reynolds  
>>> wrote:
>>> A partial config? Never tried it. Dunno what some defaults are, and 
>>> there are things hidden in the config file that aren't in the webui.
>>> 
>>> Config also seems to change things from time to time.
>>> 
>>> Also config order is sometimes important depending on what you are 
>>> doing.
>>> 
>>> (This is just what I remember from 5.2.1-5.8.x days)
>>> 
 On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:21 PM Steve Jones 
  wrote:
 It should
 
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:10 PM George Skorup 
>  wrote:
> ePMP has spoiled me. Am I 
>   stupid, or will airOS 6.1.x not take a partial 
> config? I just want to change a couple things on several hundred 
> radios. 
> And no, I'm not interested in AirControl or UNMS.
>>> 
> 
>>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] AirOS partial config?

[Steve Jones]

Key requirements changed i believe. I still dump ours in without issue, but
thats air routers and nanostations. Ill take a look tommorrow if im not too
hungover

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 8:47 PM George Skorup 
wrote:

> Yeah... except it doesn't work, at least on 6.1.6. Pull out the stuff I
> don't want to overwrite, upload the file and... SSID, WPA2 key, traffic
> shaping, device name, etc. all gone. They just go to factory default
> values. Except for what's in the config file, VLANs, bridges, etc. Not very
> helpful. This is friggin stupid.
>
> On 4/12/2018 7:57 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> Thata why you pull everything youre not changing
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 5:09 PM George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> Ugh. This is what was tripping me up:
>>
>> radio.1.status=enabled
>> radio.status=enabled
>>
>> has to be in the config file or the very vague "invalid" crap comes up.
>>
>> Lame.
>>
>> On 4/12/2018 4:14 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> I want in on that
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 4:12 PM George Skorup 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The config file definitely has unix formatting, which is why I'm editing
>>> it with vi.
>>>
>>> I don't want this to end up changing the SSIDs, WPA keys, device names,
>>> etc. So I strip out those elements, save, upload and I get Invalid
>>> configuration file structure.
>>>
>>> And yes, I'm using the upload configuration button right below the
>>> download configuration button.
>>>
>>> I'm bout to get my .308 out and shoot these things off the towers.
>>>
>>> On 4/11/2018 10:58 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>
>>> Did you use regular notepad? That fiddles with text configs sometimes,
>>> notepad++ does not
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:56 PM George Skorup 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Yeah that's exactly what I'm trying to do. Management and data VLANs.
 Management address from static to DHCP. I was thinking this would qualify
 as some pretty basic changes. Apparently not.

 We upgraded everything to 6.1.6. I set up an NSM5, downloaded the
 backup and stripped the device-specific stuff. Go import it and it says
 invalid. WTF. I don't know. I'll screw with it more tomorrow.

 On 4/11/2018 10:37 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

 For those with simple configs it's probably fine.

 If you have several interfaces and vlans per CPE with a few bridges,
 it's more of a pain (from experience).

 On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:29 PM Steve Jones 
 wrote:

> All the config file does is populate the listed fields. Anything not
> listed it doesnt change. Thats why you have to apply it but you can edit 
> it
> still after loading it. Id pull a fresh config file from one of the units
> and edit it, removing anything you dont want changed. It could just be a
> change in a field name
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:26 PM Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure how you would use a partial config... I think that it
>> would just use defaults for anything that was missing.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:56 PM Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A partial config? Never tried it. Dunno what some defaults are, and
>>> there are things hidden in the config file that aren't in the webui.
>>>
>>> Config also seems to change things from time to time.
>>>
>>> Also config order is sometimes important depending on what you are
>>> doing.
>>>
>>> (This is just what I remember from 5.2.1-5.8.x days)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:21 PM Steve Jones 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It should

 On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:10 PM George Skorup <
 george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:

> ePMP has spoiled me. Am I stupid, or will airOS 6.1.x not take a
> partial
> config? I just want to change a couple things on several hundred
> radios.
> And no, I'm not interested in AirControl or UNMS.
>


>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AirOS partial config?

[Robert]

Maybe a session of that would have gotten the attendance up for Chucks 

On 4/12/18 2:14 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

I want in on that

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 4:12 PM George Skorup > wrote:


The config file definitely has unix formatting, which is why I'm
editing it with vi.

I don't want this to end up changing the SSIDs, WPA keys, device
names, etc. So I strip out those elements, save, upload and I
get Invalid configuration file structure.

And yes, I'm using the upload configuration button right below the
download configuration button.

I'm bout to get my .308 out and shoot these things off the towers.

On 4/11/2018 10:58 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Did you use regular notepad? That fiddles with text configs
sometimes, notepad++ does not

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:56 PM George Skorup
> wrote:

Yeah that's exactly what I'm trying to do. Management and data
VLANs. Management address from static to DHCP. I was thinking
this would qualify as some pretty basic changes. Apparently not.

We upgraded everything to 6.1.6. I set up an NSM5, downloaded
the backup and stripped the device-specific stuff. Go import
it and it says invalid. WTF. I don't know. I'll screw with it
more tomorrow.

On 4/11/2018 10:37 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

For those with simple configs it's probably fine.

If you have several interfaces and vlans per CPE with a few
bridges, it's more of a pain (from experience).

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:29 PM Steve Jones
> wrote:

All the config file does is populate the listed fields.
Anything not listed it doesnt change. Thats why you have
to apply it but you can edit it still after loading it.
Id pull a fresh config file from one of the units and
edit it, removing anything you dont want changed. It
could just be a change in a field name

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:26 PM Mathew Howard
> wrote:

I'm not sure how you would use a partial config... I
think that it would just use defaults for anything
that was missing.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:56 PM Josh Reynolds
>
wrote:

A partial config? Never tried it. Dunno what some
defaults are, and there are things hidden in the
config file that aren't in the webui.

Config also seems to change things from time to time.

Also config order is sometimes important
depending on what you are doing.

(This is just what I remember from 5.2.1-5.8.x days)

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:21 PM Steve Jones
> wrote:

It should

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:10 PM George Skorup
> wrote:

ePMP has spoiled me. Am I stupid, or will
airOS 6.1.x not take a partial
config? I just want to change a couple
things on several hundred radios.
And no, I'm not interested in AirControl
or UNMS.

Re: [AFMUG] AirOS partial config?

[George Skorup]

Yeah... except it doesn't work, at least on 6.1.6. Pull out the stuff I 
don't want to overwrite, upload the file and... SSID, WPA2 key, traffic 
shaping, device name, etc. all gone. They just go to factory default 
values. Except for what's in the config file, VLANs, bridges, etc. Not 
very helpful. This is friggin stupid.


On 4/12/2018 7:57 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Thata why you pull everything youre not changing

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 5:09 PM George Skorup > wrote:


Ugh. This is what was tripping me up:

radio.1.status=enabled
radio.status=enabled

has to be in the config file or the very vague "invalid" crap
comes up.

Lame.

On 4/12/2018 4:14 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

I want in on that

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 4:12 PM George Skorup
> wrote:

The config file definitely has unix formatting, which is why
I'm editing it with vi.

I don't want this to end up changing the SSIDs, WPA keys,
device names, etc. So I strip out those elements, save,
upload and I get Invalid configuration file structure.

And yes, I'm using the upload configuration button right
below the download configuration button.

I'm bout to get my .308 out and shoot these things off the
towers.

On 4/11/2018 10:58 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Did you use regular notepad? That fiddles with text configs
sometimes, notepad++ does not

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:56 PM George Skorup
>
wrote:

Yeah that's exactly what I'm trying to do. Management
and data VLANs. Management address from static to DHCP.
I was thinking this would qualify as some pretty basic
changes. Apparently not.

We upgraded everything to 6.1.6. I set up an NSM5,
downloaded the backup and stripped the device-specific
stuff. Go import it and it says invalid. WTF. I don't
know. I'll screw with it more tomorrow.

On 4/11/2018 10:37 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

For those with simple configs it's probably fine.

If you have several interfaces and vlans per CPE with a
few bridges, it's more of a pain (from experience).

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:29 PM Steve Jones
> wrote:

All the config file does is populate the listed
fields. Anything not listed it doesnt change. Thats
why you have to apply it but you can edit it still
after loading it. Id pull a fresh config file from
one of the units and edit it, removing anything you
dont want changed. It could just be a change in a
field name

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:26 PM Mathew Howard
> wrote:

I'm not sure how you would use a partial
config... I think that it would just use
defaults for anything that was missing.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:56 PM Josh Reynolds
> wrote:

A partial config? Never tried it. Dunno
what some defaults are, and there are
things hidden in the config file that
aren't in the webui.

Config also seems to change things from
time to time.

Also config order is sometimes important
depending on what you are doing.

(This is just what I remember from
5.2.1-5.8.x days)

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:21 PM Steve Jones
> wrote:

It should

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:10 PM George
Skorup > wrote:

ePMP has spoiled me. Am I stupid,
or will airOS 6.1.x not take a partial
config? I just want to change a
couple things on several hundred
radios.
And no, I'm not interested in
AirControl or UNMS.

Re: [AFMUG] AirOS partial config?

[Steve Jones]

Thata why you pull everything youre not changing

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 5:09 PM George Skorup 
wrote:

> Ugh. This is what was tripping me up:
>
> radio.1.status=enabled
> radio.status=enabled
>
> has to be in the config file or the very vague "invalid" crap comes up.
>
> Lame.
>
> On 4/12/2018 4:14 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> I want in on that
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 4:12 PM George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> The config file definitely has unix formatting, which is why I'm editing
>> it with vi.
>>
>> I don't want this to end up changing the SSIDs, WPA keys, device names,
>> etc. So I strip out those elements, save, upload and I get Invalid
>> configuration file structure.
>>
>> And yes, I'm using the upload configuration button right below the
>> download configuration button.
>>
>> I'm bout to get my .308 out and shoot these things off the towers.
>>
>> On 4/11/2018 10:58 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> Did you use regular notepad? That fiddles with text configs sometimes,
>> notepad++ does not
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:56 PM George Skorup 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah that's exactly what I'm trying to do. Management and data VLANs.
>>> Management address from static to DHCP. I was thinking this would qualify
>>> as some pretty basic changes. Apparently not.
>>>
>>> We upgraded everything to 6.1.6. I set up an NSM5, downloaded the backup
>>> and stripped the device-specific stuff. Go import it and it says invalid.
>>> WTF. I don't know. I'll screw with it more tomorrow.
>>>
>>> On 4/11/2018 10:37 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>
>>> For those with simple configs it's probably fine.
>>>
>>> If you have several interfaces and vlans per CPE with a few bridges,
>>> it's more of a pain (from experience).
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:29 PM Steve Jones 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 All the config file does is populate the listed fields. Anything not
 listed it doesnt change. Thats why you have to apply it but you can edit it
 still after loading it. Id pull a fresh config file from one of the units
 and edit it, removing anything you dont want changed. It could just be a
 change in a field name

 On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:26 PM Mathew Howard 
 wrote:

> I'm not sure how you would use a partial config... I think that it
> would just use defaults for anything that was missing.
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:56 PM Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> A partial config? Never tried it. Dunno what some defaults are, and
>> there are things hidden in the config file that aren't in the webui.
>>
>> Config also seems to change things from time to time.
>>
>> Also config order is sometimes important depending on what you are
>> doing.
>>
>> (This is just what I remember from 5.2.1-5.8.x days)
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:21 PM Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It should
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:10 PM George Skorup <
>>> george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>>>
 ePMP has spoiled me. Am I stupid, or will airOS 6.1.x not take a
 partial
 config? I just want to change a couple things on several hundred
 radios.
 And no, I'm not interested in AirControl or UNMS.

>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AirOS partial config?

[George Skorup]

Ugh. This is what was tripping me up:

radio.1.status=enabled
radio.status=enabled

has to be in the config file or the very vague "invalid" crap comes up.

Lame.

On 4/12/2018 4:14 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

I want in on that

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 4:12 PM George Skorup > wrote:


The config file definitely has unix formatting, which is why I'm
editing it with vi.

I don't want this to end up changing the SSIDs, WPA keys, device
names, etc. So I strip out those elements, save, upload and I
get Invalid configuration file structure.

And yes, I'm using the upload configuration button right below the
download configuration button.

I'm bout to get my .308 out and shoot these things off the towers.

On 4/11/2018 10:58 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Did you use regular notepad? That fiddles with text configs
sometimes, notepad++ does not

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:56 PM George Skorup
> wrote:

Yeah that's exactly what I'm trying to do. Management and
data VLANs. Management address from static to DHCP. I was
thinking this would qualify as some pretty basic changes.
Apparently not.

We upgraded everything to 6.1.6. I set up an NSM5, downloaded
the backup and stripped the device-specific stuff. Go import
it and it says invalid. WTF. I don't know. I'll screw with it
more tomorrow.

On 4/11/2018 10:37 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

For those with simple configs it's probably fine.

If you have several interfaces and vlans per CPE with a few
bridges, it's more of a pain (from experience).

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:29 PM Steve Jones
> wrote:

All the config file does is populate the listed fields.
Anything not listed it doesnt change. Thats why you have
to apply it but you can edit it still after loading it.
Id pull a fresh config file from one of the units and
edit it, removing anything you dont want changed. It
could just be a change in a field name

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:26 PM Mathew Howard
> wrote:

I'm not sure how you would use a partial config... I
think that it would just use defaults for anything
that was missing.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:56 PM Josh Reynolds
>
wrote:

A partial config? Never tried it. Dunno what
some defaults are, and there are things hidden
in the config file that aren't in the webui.

Config also seems to change things from time to
time.

Also config order is sometimes important
depending on what you are doing.

(This is just what I remember from 5.2.1-5.8.x days)

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:21 PM Steve Jones
> wrote:

It should

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:10 PM George Skorup
> wrote:

ePMP has spoiled me. Am I stupid, or
will airOS 6.1.x not take a partial
config? I just want to change a couple
things on several hundred radios.
And no, I'm not interested in AirControl
or UNMS.

Re: [AFMUG] AirOS partial config?

[Steve Jones]

I want in on that

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 4:12 PM George Skorup 
wrote:

> The config file definitely has unix formatting, which is why I'm editing
> it with vi.
>
> I don't want this to end up changing the SSIDs, WPA keys, device names,
> etc. So I strip out those elements, save, upload and I get Invalid
> configuration file structure.
>
> And yes, I'm using the upload configuration button right below the
> download configuration button.
>
> I'm bout to get my .308 out and shoot these things off the towers.
>
> On 4/11/2018 10:58 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> Did you use regular notepad? That fiddles with text configs sometimes,
> notepad++ does not
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:56 PM George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah that's exactly what I'm trying to do. Management and data VLANs.
>> Management address from static to DHCP. I was thinking this would qualify
>> as some pretty basic changes. Apparently not.
>>
>> We upgraded everything to 6.1.6. I set up an NSM5, downloaded the backup
>> and stripped the device-specific stuff. Go import it and it says invalid.
>> WTF. I don't know. I'll screw with it more tomorrow.
>>
>> On 4/11/2018 10:37 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> For those with simple configs it's probably fine.
>>
>> If you have several interfaces and vlans per CPE with a few bridges, it's
>> more of a pain (from experience).
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:29 PM Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> All the config file does is populate the listed fields. Anything not
>>> listed it doesnt change. Thats why you have to apply it but you can edit it
>>> still after loading it. Id pull a fresh config file from one of the units
>>> and edit it, removing anything you dont want changed. It could just be a
>>> change in a field name
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:26 PM Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'm not sure how you would use a partial config... I think that it
 would just use defaults for anything that was missing.

 On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:56 PM Josh Reynolds 
 wrote:

> A partial config? Never tried it. Dunno what some defaults are, and
> there are things hidden in the config file that aren't in the webui.
>
> Config also seems to change things from time to time.
>
> Also config order is sometimes important depending on what you are
> doing.
>
> (This is just what I remember from 5.2.1-5.8.x days)
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:21 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> It should
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:10 PM George Skorup 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ePMP has spoiled me. Am I stupid, or will airOS 6.1.x not take a
>>> partial
>>> config? I just want to change a couple things on several hundred
>>> radios.
>>> And no, I'm not interested in AirControl or UNMS.
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AirOS partial config?

[George Skorup]

The config file definitely has unix formatting, which is why I'm editing 
it with vi.


I don't want this to end up changing the SSIDs, WPA keys, device names, 
etc. So I strip out those elements, save, upload and I get Invalid 
configuration file structure.


And yes, I'm using the upload configuration button right below the 
download configuration button.


I'm bout to get my .308 out and shoot these things off the towers.

On 4/11/2018 10:58 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
Did you use regular notepad? That fiddles with text configs sometimes, 
notepad++ does not


On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:56 PM George Skorup > wrote:


Yeah that's exactly what I'm trying to do. Management and data
VLANs. Management address from static to DHCP. I was thinking this
would qualify as some pretty basic changes. Apparently not.

We upgraded everything to 6.1.6. I set up an NSM5, downloaded the
backup and stripped the device-specific stuff. Go import it and it
says invalid. WTF. I don't know. I'll screw with it more tomorrow.

On 4/11/2018 10:37 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

For those with simple configs it's probably fine.

If you have several interfaces and vlans per CPE with a few
bridges, it's more of a pain (from experience).

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:29 PM Steve Jones
> wrote:

All the config file does is populate the listed fields.
Anything not listed it doesnt change. Thats why you have to
apply it but you can edit it still after loading it. Id pull
a fresh config file from one of the units and edit it,
removing anything you dont want changed. It could just be a
change in a field name

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:26 PM Mathew Howard
> wrote:

I'm not sure how you would use a partial config... I
think that it would just use defaults for anything that
was missing.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:56 PM Josh Reynolds
> wrote:

A partial config? Never tried it. Dunno what some
defaults are, and there are things hidden in the
config file that aren't in the webui.

Config also seems to change things from time to time.

Also config order is sometimes important depending on
what you are doing.

(This is just what I remember from 5.2.1-5.8.x days)

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:21 PM Steve Jones
> wrote:

It should

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:10 PM George Skorup
> wrote:

ePMP has spoiled me. Am I stupid, or will
airOS 6.1.x not take a partial
config? I just want to change a couple things
on several hundred radios.
And no, I'm not interested in AirControl or UNMS.

Re: [AFMUG] AirOS partial config?

[Steve Jones]

Also, i havent looked, but they didnt flipflop the firmware and the config
locations did they? Probably something ubntstyle like that or the button
command actually got duplicated from the firmware button in the code.

On Apr 11, 2018 10:58 PM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:

Did you use regular notepad? That fiddles with text configs sometimes,
notepad++ does not

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:56 PM George Skorup 
wrote:

> Yeah that's exactly what I'm trying to do. Management and data VLANs.
> Management address from static to DHCP. I was thinking this would qualify
> as some pretty basic changes. Apparently not.
>
> We upgraded everything to 6.1.6. I set up an NSM5, downloaded the backup
> and stripped the device-specific stuff. Go import it and it says invalid.
> WTF. I don't know. I'll screw with it more tomorrow.
>
> On 4/11/2018 10:37 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>
> For those with simple configs it's probably fine.
>
> If you have several interfaces and vlans per CPE with a few bridges, it's
> more of a pain (from experience).
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:29 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> All the config file does is populate the listed fields. Anything not
>> listed it doesnt change. Thats why you have to apply it but you can edit it
>> still after loading it. Id pull a fresh config file from one of the units
>> and edit it, removing anything you dont want changed. It could just be a
>> change in a field name
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:26 PM Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not sure how you would use a partial config... I think that it would
>>> just use defaults for anything that was missing.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:56 PM Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 A partial config? Never tried it. Dunno what some defaults are, and
 there are things hidden in the config file that aren't in the webui.

 Config also seems to change things from time to time.

 Also config order is sometimes important depending on what you are
 doing.

 (This is just what I remember from 5.2.1-5.8.x days)

 On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:21 PM Steve Jones 
 wrote:

> It should
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:10 PM George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> ePMP has spoiled me. Am I stupid, or will airOS 6.1.x not take a
>> partial
>> config? I just want to change a couple things on several hundred
>> radios.
>> And no, I'm not interested in AirControl or UNMS.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AirOS partial config?

[Steve Jones]

Did you use regular notepad? That fiddles with text configs sometimes,
notepad++ does not

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:56 PM George Skorup 
wrote:

> Yeah that's exactly what I'm trying to do. Management and data VLANs.
> Management address from static to DHCP. I was thinking this would qualify
> as some pretty basic changes. Apparently not.
>
> We upgraded everything to 6.1.6. I set up an NSM5, downloaded the backup
> and stripped the device-specific stuff. Go import it and it says invalid.
> WTF. I don't know. I'll screw with it more tomorrow.
>
> On 4/11/2018 10:37 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>
> For those with simple configs it's probably fine.
>
> If you have several interfaces and vlans per CPE with a few bridges, it's
> more of a pain (from experience).
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:29 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> All the config file does is populate the listed fields. Anything not
>> listed it doesnt change. Thats why you have to apply it but you can edit it
>> still after loading it. Id pull a fresh config file from one of the units
>> and edit it, removing anything you dont want changed. It could just be a
>> change in a field name
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:26 PM Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not sure how you would use a partial config... I think that it would
>>> just use defaults for anything that was missing.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:56 PM Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 A partial config? Never tried it. Dunno what some defaults are, and
 there are things hidden in the config file that aren't in the webui.

 Config also seems to change things from time to time.

 Also config order is sometimes important depending on what you are
 doing.

 (This is just what I remember from 5.2.1-5.8.x days)

 On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:21 PM Steve Jones 
 wrote:

> It should
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:10 PM George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> ePMP has spoiled me. Am I stupid, or will airOS 6.1.x not take a
>> partial
>> config? I just want to change a couple things on several hundred
>> radios.
>> And no, I'm not interested in AirControl or UNMS.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AirOS partial config?

[Josh Reynolds]

It's gotta have the right MAC for sure. Also device identifiers I think,
cant remember. Like I said though, every few versions it seems like they
change something and your config will no longer work.

This is what config tools are for homie.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:56 PM George Skorup 
wrote:

> Yeah that's exactly what I'm trying to do. Management and data VLANs.
> Management address from static to DHCP. I was thinking this would qualify
> as some pretty basic changes. Apparently not.
>
> We upgraded everything to 6.1.6. I set up an NSM5, downloaded the backup
> and stripped the device-specific stuff. Go import it and it says invalid.
> WTF. I don't know. I'll screw with it more tomorrow.
>
> On 4/11/2018 10:37 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>
> For those with simple configs it's probably fine.
>
> If you have several interfaces and vlans per CPE with a few bridges, it's
> more of a pain (from experience).
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:29 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> All the config file does is populate the listed fields. Anything not
>> listed it doesnt change. Thats why you have to apply it but you can edit it
>> still after loading it. Id pull a fresh config file from one of the units
>> and edit it, removing anything you dont want changed. It could just be a
>> change in a field name
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:26 PM Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not sure how you would use a partial config... I think that it would
>>> just use defaults for anything that was missing.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:56 PM Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 A partial config? Never tried it. Dunno what some defaults are, and
 there are things hidden in the config file that aren't in the webui.

 Config also seems to change things from time to time.

 Also config order is sometimes important depending on what you are
 doing.

 (This is just what I remember from 5.2.1-5.8.x days)

 On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:21 PM Steve Jones 
 wrote:

> It should
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:10 PM George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> ePMP has spoiled me. Am I stupid, or will airOS 6.1.x not take a
>> partial
>> config? I just want to change a couple things on several hundred
>> radios.
>> And no, I'm not interested in AirControl or UNMS.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AirOS partial config?

[George Skorup]

Yeah that's exactly what I'm trying to do. Management and data VLANs. 
Management address from static to DHCP. I was thinking this would 
qualify as some pretty basic changes. Apparently not.


We upgraded everything to 6.1.6. I set up an NSM5, downloaded the backup 
and stripped the device-specific stuff. Go import it and it says 
invalid. WTF. I don't know. I'll screw with it more tomorrow.


On 4/11/2018 10:37 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

For those with simple configs it's probably fine.

If you have several interfaces and vlans per CPE with a few bridges, 
it's more of a pain (from experience).


On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:29 PM Steve Jones > wrote:


All the config file does is populate the listed fields. Anything
not listed it doesnt change. Thats why you have to apply it but
you can edit it still after loading it. Id pull a fresh config
file from one of the units and edit it, removing anything you dont
want changed. It could just be a change in a field name

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:26 PM Mathew Howard > wrote:

I'm not sure how you would use a partial config... I think
that it would just use defaults for anything that was missing.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:56 PM Josh Reynolds
> wrote:

A partial config? Never tried it. Dunno what some defaults
are, and there are things hidden in the config file that
aren't in the webui.

Config also seems to change things from time to time.

Also config order is sometimes important depending on what
you are doing.

(This is just what I remember from 5.2.1-5.8.x days)

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:21 PM Steve Jones
> wrote:

It should

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:10 PM George Skorup
> wrote:

ePMP has spoiled me. Am I stupid, or will airOS
6.1.x not take a partial
config? I just want to change a couple things on
several hundred radios.
And no, I'm not interested in AirControl or UNMS.

Re: [AFMUG] AirOS partial config?

[Josh Reynolds]

For those with simple configs it's probably fine.

If you have several interfaces and vlans per CPE with a few bridges, it's
more of a pain (from experience).

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:29 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> All the config file does is populate the listed fields. Anything not
> listed it doesnt change. Thats why you have to apply it but you can edit it
> still after loading it. Id pull a fresh config file from one of the units
> and edit it, removing anything you dont want changed. It could just be a
> change in a field name
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:26 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure how you would use a partial config... I think that it would
>> just use defaults for anything that was missing.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:56 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>>
>>> A partial config? Never tried it. Dunno what some defaults are, and
>>> there are things hidden in the config file that aren't in the webui.
>>>
>>> Config also seems to change things from time to time.
>>>
>>> Also config order is sometimes important depending on what you are doing.
>>>
>>> (This is just what I remember from 5.2.1-5.8.x days)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:21 PM Steve Jones 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It should

 On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:10 PM George Skorup 
 wrote:

> ePMP has spoiled me. Am I stupid, or will airOS 6.1.x not take a
> partial
> config? I just want to change a couple things on several hundred
> radios.
> And no, I'm not interested in AirControl or UNMS.
>

Re: [AFMUG] AirOS partial config?

[Mathew Howard]

Interesting... I guess I never actually tried, I thought it just overwrite
everything.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:29 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> All the config file does is populate the listed fields. Anything not
> listed it doesnt change. Thats why you have to apply it but you can edit it
> still after loading it. Id pull a fresh config file from one of the units
> and edit it, removing anything you dont want changed. It could just be a
> change in a field name
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:26 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure how you would use a partial config... I think that it would
>> just use defaults for anything that was missing.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:56 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>>
>>> A partial config? Never tried it. Dunno what some defaults are, and
>>> there are things hidden in the config file that aren't in the webui.
>>>
>>> Config also seems to change things from time to time.
>>>
>>> Also config order is sometimes important depending on what you are doing.
>>>
>>> (This is just what I remember from 5.2.1-5.8.x days)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:21 PM Steve Jones 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It should

 On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:10 PM George Skorup 
 wrote:

> ePMP has spoiled me. Am I stupid, or will airOS 6.1.x not take a
> partial
> config? I just want to change a couple things on several hundred
> radios.
> And no, I'm not interested in AirControl or UNMS.
>

Re: [AFMUG] AirOS partial config?

[Steve Jones]

All the config file does is populate the listed fields. Anything not listed
it doesnt change. Thats why you have to apply it but you can edit it still
after loading it. Id pull a fresh config file from one of the units and
edit it, removing anything you dont want changed. It could just be a change
in a field name

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 10:26 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:

> I'm not sure how you would use a partial config... I think that it would
> just use defaults for anything that was missing.
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:56 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
>> A partial config? Never tried it. Dunno what some defaults are, and there
>> are things hidden in the config file that aren't in the webui.
>>
>> Config also seems to change things from time to time.
>>
>> Also config order is sometimes important depending on what you are doing.
>>
>> (This is just what I remember from 5.2.1-5.8.x days)
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:21 PM Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It should
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:10 PM George Skorup 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 ePMP has spoiled me. Am I stupid, or will airOS 6.1.x not take a
 partial
 config? I just want to change a couple things on several hundred
 radios.
 And no, I'm not interested in AirControl or UNMS.

>>>

Re: [AFMUG] AirOS partial config?

[Mathew Howard]

I'm not sure how you would use a partial config... I think that it would
just use defaults for anything that was missing.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:56 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> A partial config? Never tried it. Dunno what some defaults are, and there
> are things hidden in the config file that aren't in the webui.
>
> Config also seems to change things from time to time.
>
> Also config order is sometimes important depending on what you are doing.
>
> (This is just what I remember from 5.2.1-5.8.x days)
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:21 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> It should
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:10 PM George Skorup 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ePMP has spoiled me. Am I stupid, or will airOS 6.1.x not take a partial
>>> config? I just want to change a couple things on several hundred radios.
>>> And no, I'm not interested in AirControl or UNMS.
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] AirOS partial config?

[Josh Reynolds]

I'd use ansible for this. There may even already be an ansible playbook for
it.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:56 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> A partial config? Never tried it. Dunno what some defaults are, and there
> are things hidden in the config file that aren't in the webui.
>
> Config also seems to change things from time to time.
>
> Also config order is sometimes important depending on what you are doing.
>
> (This is just what I remember from 5.2.1-5.8.x days)
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:21 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> It should
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:10 PM George Skorup 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ePMP has spoiled me. Am I stupid, or will airOS 6.1.x not take a partial
>>> config? I just want to change a couple things on several hundred radios.
>>> And no, I'm not interested in AirControl or UNMS.
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] AirOS partial config?

[Josh Reynolds]

A partial config? Never tried it. Dunno what some defaults are, and there
are things hidden in the config file that aren't in the webui.

Config also seems to change things from time to time.

Also config order is sometimes important depending on what you are doing.

(This is just what I remember from 5.2.1-5.8.x days)

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:21 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

> It should
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:10 PM George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> ePMP has spoiled me. Am I stupid, or will airOS 6.1.x not take a partial
>> config? I just want to change a couple things on several hundred radios.
>> And no, I'm not interested in AirControl or UNMS.
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AirOS partial config?

[Steve Jones]

It should

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 9:10 PM George Skorup 
wrote:

> ePMP has spoiled me. Am I stupid, or will airOS 6.1.x not take a partial
> config? I just want to change a couple things on several hundred radios.
> And no, I'm not interested in AirControl or UNMS.
>

[AFMUG] AirOS partial config?

[George Skorup]

ePMP has spoiled me. Am I stupid, or will airOS 6.1.x not take a partial 
config? I just want to change a couple things on several hundred radios. 
And no, I'm not interested in AirControl or UNMS.