...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 30, 2015 1:30 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
Do those fees go to the owner of the pole? Not that theres really
probably a market for other stuff in these areas, I assume if we put them
in we are also on the hook for pole repairs
.
*From:* Christopher Gray cg...@graytechsoftware.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2015 8:30 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
A little off topic, but pole related:
Can poles be put in the ROW for use primarily as small towers?
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 3:32 PM
@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 12:47:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
If there are no poles, does ROW give privilege to put them in? I assume that
would get costly.
Im probably wrong here, but I dont like poles of the wood kind, our drunks in
our rural areas
and Centurylink get that privilege then?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On
Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:20 AM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
Nope
From: Sterling Jacobson
I have put towers in the ROW for use a towers, so I would presume yes.
From: Christopher Gray
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 8:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
A little off topic, but pole related:
Can poles be put in the ROW for use primarily as small towers
The original rule of thumb was something to do with what size stick you
can use to beat your wife/kids without breaking the law. 144 strand
loose tube is about the size of a thumb, so in some jurisdictions you
might have been able to discipline your family with it. Say hi to your
thumb for
Say you want to run fiber for 10 miles.
Aside from the boring equipment and permits what does that entail?
I know there are 36 bazillion answers, but humor me.
Details like how often you need handholes and how to deal with slacking for
cut fiber splicing would be very helpful.
What is a rule of
strand fiber. You will regret going cheap at
any stage of the game.
Make sure the fiber has a metallic element (shield or wire) so you can find it
later.
From: That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
Say you want
Comcast does not unless it is the ILEC. Century Link is normally the ILEC.
From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
How do Comcast and Centurylink get that privilege then?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
Also, does this mean we can get on the city/plat developers list and put
conduit in open trench and see/approve developer ROW plans?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
.
From: D. Ryan Spott
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
They walk into the planning department and ask to be put on the list.
ryan
On 6/30/15 10:30 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
How do Comcast and Centurylink get that privilege
the plow,
you can be in the $2/foot range.
Bored you will be in the $20/foot range.
Rock will be more.
From: That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
If there are no poles, does ROW give privilege to put them in? I
: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
The original rule of thumb was something to do with what size stick you can use
to beat your wife/kids without breaking the law. 144 strand loose tube is
about the size of a thumb, so in some jurisdictions you might have been able to
discipline your family
How do Comcast and Centurylink get that privilege then?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:20 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
Nope
From: Sterling Jacobsonmailto:sterl...@avative.net
Sent: Tuesday, June
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
Nope
*From:*Sterling Jacobson mailto:sterl...@avative.net
*Sent:*Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:11 AM
*To:*af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
Also, does this mean we can get on the city/plat developers
and frustrating.
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *D. Ryan Spott
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:35 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
They walk into the planning department and ask to be put on the list.
ryan
On 6/30/15 10:30 AM, Sterling
of it again,
than let me put conduit in their open utility trench in the first place.
It’s really baffling and frustrating.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
They walk
Hmmm, blanket ROW for all of the US of A now?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
Ye’all have rights for ROWs now. Was in the latest report and order from the
FCC
to complain about I
would think. You should be treated equal to them.
From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
They are on every Mylar sheet signoff in my city. I don’t think they have ILEC
status here.
From
Yep.
From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:09 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
Hmmm, blanket ROW for all of the US of A now?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:06 AM
To: af
Nope
From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
Also, does this mean we can get on the city/plat developers list and put
conduit in open trench and see/approve developer ROW plans?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun
They are on every Mylar sheet signoff in my city. I don’t think they have ILEC
status here.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
Comcast does not unless it is the ILEC
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:20 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
Nope
*From:* Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:11 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
Also, does this mean we
*To:* af af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
Sort of related maybe - does anyone know if electric co-ops are still
exempt from FCC pole attachment rules?
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 3:01 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:
If you put in poles
:* Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:47 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
If there are no poles, does ROW give privilege to put them in? I assume
that would get costly.
Im probably wrong here, but I dont like poles of the wood kind, our drunks
in our rural areas
of $2/pole per year. Probably more like $12 to $20.
*From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 30, 2015 1:30 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
Do those fees go to the owner of the pole? Not that theres really
probably
: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
Sort of related maybe - does anyone know if electric co-ops are still exempt
from FCC pole attachment rules?
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 3:01 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:
If you put in poles in the ROW, they are there for anyone else
Yep, FCC regulates pole contact fees. You have to share.
Yes, handholes in front of each house.
From: That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 1:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
If you put in poles in the ROW, they are there for anyone else
] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:20 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
Nope
*From:* Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:11 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
Yep, minimum of $2/pole per year. Probably more like $12 to $20.
From: That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 1:30 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
Do those fees go to the owner of the pole? Not that theres really probably a
market for other stuff
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