Yeah, that is a good point!
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Roger Timmerman
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 1:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
Sterling, yes the Vivint discussions are interesting, especially the Linkedin
one. As you have noticed, I
eaking your SFP reseller business with the Chinese source.
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> *Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2015 6:54 PM
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From: "Jason McKemie"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 1:54:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
I've had some issues with Occam compatible SFPs in RB260gs units - they would
work, but you would have to unplug them and plug them ba
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From: "Faisal Imtiaz"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 9:02:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
I will agree that their software development process is greatly lacking quality
control, having said that I a
: Thursday, May 28, 2015 6:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
I have sourced optics from these and several other Chinese and European
manufacturers. I even have a couple different SFP/SFP+/XFP/QSFP coders so that
I can overwrite their firmwares to be compatible with different
the SFP to get them to connect.
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> This happened with the Mikrotik branded ones, FiberStore branded ones, and
> I think the generic ones too.
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:55 PM
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*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
*Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:55 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
I've had some issues with Occam compatible SFPs in RB260gs units -
they would work, but you would have to unplug them and pl
I think the generic ones too.
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Jason
> McKemie
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:55 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
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> From: "George Skorup"
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 6:41:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
> So what you're saying is... MikroTik stuff i
nes too.
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
*Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:55 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
I've had some issues with Occam compatible SFPs in RB260gs units -
they would work, but you would have to unplug th
] On Behalf Of Steve Utick
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
And, you said you've been using these successfully in MikroTik gear, correct?
What do you usually see for shipping times form China to the US from them?
Thanks.
On Thu, May 28,
type of arrangement, email Mr. Wang your
> SFP wishes and they will be granted (minus the gazillion dollar markups
> that everyone takes between here and China).
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 28,
M
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
I've had some issues with Occam compatible SFPs in RB260gs units -
they would work, but you would have to unplug them and plug them back
in while the unit was powered up to get them to link. So if the
Mikrotik loses power, the link goes
the generic ones too.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
I've had some issues with Occam compatible SFPs in RB260gs units - they would
work, but you would have to unplug
elecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
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>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
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>> - Original Message -
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>>> From: "George Skorup"
>>> To: af@a
, email Mr. Wang your SFP
wishes and they will be granted (minus the gazillion dollar markups that
everyone takes between here and China).
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 5:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
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Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
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From: "George Skorup"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 9:44:55 PM
Subject:
Stefan Englhardt"
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:38:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
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> >I'll stick to my original statement. The benefit of running a MikroTik
> >router or switch is they're generally fine for our purpos
Wednesday, May 27, 2015 11:57:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
What company are you buying them from in China if I may ask? Currently looking
for a BIDI optics vendor myself.
Thanks.
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Sterling Jacobson < sterl...@avative.net >
wrote:
>I'll stick to my original statement. The benefit of running a MikroTik router
>or switch is they're generally fine for our purposes and cheap to replace when
>they fail.
We use them a lot and are happy and frustrated with them at the same day.
Problem is there attitude towards quality.
You se
On 5/27/2015 10:45 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
There are only a hand full of actual MFG who make the optics, everything else
is branding .:)
While there are many things that can go wrong with SFP's, but I can assure you
"Packet Loss / CRC / FCS" are not due to SFP module compatibility with th
for $20 a pair.
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 27, 2015 9:49 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
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305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
From: "Josh Baird"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 11:25:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
They work with Cisco if you disable the the unsuppo
305 663 5518 x 232
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> From: "Josh Baird"
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 11:25:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
> They work with C
FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
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> From: "George Skorup"
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 11:22:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
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> I've
nd temp etc) that may or may not work...
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>> Regards
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>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp..
com
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
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From: "Faisal Imtiaz"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 9:23:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
Nate,
> > Regards
> >
> > Faisal Imtiaz
> > Snappy Internet & Telecom
> > 7266 SW 48 Street
> > Miami, FL 33155
> > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> >
> > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
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> > - Orig
You can use singlemode bidi modules on multimode fiber they do work we have
them running 1500ft+ on multimode fiber and able to get 800Mb/s+ Full
Duplex.
MT Single mode Bidi SFP into CRS switches.
Sincerely,
Jason Pond
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
> Is there a MultiMode
)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
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From: "Faisal Imtiaz"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 9:23:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
Nate,
If you are not able to locate the MM Bidi SFP's, you might want to try the
SMF B
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> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 9:23:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
>
> Nate,
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> If you are not able to locate the MM Bidi SFP's, you might want to try the
> SMF Bidi on your MM fiber run..
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> Take a look at this:-
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Miami, FL 33155
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> From: "Nate Burke"
> To: "Animal Farm"
> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 3:07:41 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
>
It's like an albino. They exist, but very uncommon. We happen to have
a pair of MM BiDi's that we don't need. Hit me offlist if you want them.
Is there a MultiMode BIDI SFP? I need to run a connection across a
warehouse, they have 3 pair of multimode fiber, but all 3 are already
in use. T
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 27, 2015 3:50 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
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> Massive bulk in data centers = multimode
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: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 3:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
Massive bulk in data centers = multimode
The rest = single mode
That's how I remember it
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
D
I've seen those, and wondered if they would work.
On 5/27/2015 2:52 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote:
Here�s a random thought.. what if you used a mode-conditioned cable on both
sides with a Singlemode BiDi SFP?
On May 27, 2015, at 1:07 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
Is there a MultiMode BIDI SFP? I
Massive bulk in data centers = multimode
The rest = single mode
That's how I remember it
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
> I've seen the same thing. All BIDI interfaces need sin
Here’s a random thought.. what if you used a mode-conditioned cable on both
sides with a Singlemode BiDi SFP?
> On May 27, 2015, at 1:07 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
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> Is there a MultiMode BIDI SFP? I need to run a connection across a
> warehouse, they have 3 pair of multimode fiber, but all 3 are
If not, try a passive CWDM multimode system.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: "Nate Burke"
To: "Animal Farm"
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 2:07:41 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Multimode BIDI
I've seen the same thing. All BIDI interfaces need single mode as best
as I can tell.
That might have changed my decision to use multimode in a few cases.
These days, I don't think there is any good reason to use multimode any
more.
bp
On 5/27/2015 12:07 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
Is there a M
Is there a MultiMode BIDI SFP? I need to run a connection across a
warehouse, they have 3 pair of multimode fiber, but all 3 are already in
use. They won't let me tunnel connections together, because that would
be touching 'their' network, but I could probably talk them into using
only a sing
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