433 ISM?
On 8/17/2015 12:55 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I would have thought VHF frequencies for the control.
*From:* Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com
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I can only assume it is.
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From: Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com
To: af af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:04:44
I'm assuming it is, but if they're flying low over my property without
permission, it's pretty much trespassing, isn't it?
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:
I can only assume it is.
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Depends on how low. And do you own the “air rights” over your property?
From: Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:42 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...
I'm assuming it is, but if they're flying low over my property without
permission, it's pretty
What rules apply to traditional RC planes, real planes?
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From: Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com
To: af af@afmug.com
Sent:
Real planes have to maintain a 500 foot separation from vehicles, buildings and
people unless taking off or landing.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...
What rules apply to traditional RC
The laws appear to vary by state, but it looks like you generally would
need permission to fly these things over private property, since they have
to be below 500' - but I base this all on 5 minutes spent on Google, so I'm
likely as not wrong.
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Chuck McCown
That's the most likely scenario. Any enthusiast knows damn well to keep
away. The problem is that they've come down in price and become so easy to
use, that your average ignorant joe blow can fly around with one without
thinking about it. I agree that following the thing home and having a chat
On 8/17/15 11:07, Chuck McCown wrote:
Crossbow or long bow arrow pulling fishing line could mess them up.
Release some barrage balloons.
~Seth
The laws haven't caught up to the reality of the situation yet. I heard of a
man being arrested for shooting one down when he thought they were spying on
his daughters in their pool.
Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
Excellent idea
On Aug 17, 2015 7:48 PM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote:
On 8/17/15 11:07, Chuck McCown wrote:
Crossbow or long bow arrow pulling fishing line could mess them up.
Release some barrage balloons.
~Seth
Many ranchers and farmers around here would just as much shoot them down if
they are on their property.
On Aug 17, 2015 3:59 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:
The laws appear to vary by state, but it looks like you generally would
need permission to fly these things over private
I don't own guns but do have a bow.I would like to take one down with
an old fashion sling. Two weights and leather strap just for hell of
it.
On Aug 17, 2015 4:37 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net wrote:
The laws haven't caught up to the reality of the situation yet. I heard
That is funny. I just learned about those a week ago.
Then you will have drones that use
http://www.bbrclub.org/Balloon%20Cable%20Cutting%20Device%20for%20Aircraft.htm
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From: David dmilho...@wletc.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 8:13:54
Surprising people would mess with firefighters.
I remember seeing a VW beetle someone parked in front of a fire hydrant, and
there was a house fire. The firefighters bashed out windows on both sides and
ran a firehose through his car. No doubt they could have picked it up and
moved it, or
If a Drone Jammer is readily available, why doesn't the fire department
have one? Or borrow one from the nearest SWAT team. Isn't that like the
first thing they do at a potential bomb site, is setup a jammer to
prevent remote detonation? Or have I just been watching too many police
shows.
You can get 2.4 or 5.8probably others.
It's common to use both bands, with one for control and one for video feed.
On 8/17/2015 1:53 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
OK, but specifically.
*From:* Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 11:49 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
I think 2.4ghz is the most common for any sort of RC aircraft these days...
I'm not really sure why, but apparently that's what they prefer.
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I would have thought VHF frequencies for the control.
*From:* Adam Moffett
Crossbow or long bow arrow pulling fishing line could mess them up.
From: Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 12:04 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...
I wonder if it's illegal to shoot them down if they're flying on your
property...
On Mon, Aug
They had that problem at another wildfire in bc near Kamloops. Drone flying and
brought down all the fire fighting equipment in the area. Really annoying at
drone pilots sometimes.
Sent while mobile
On Aug 17, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Steve D bigd...@gmail.com wrote:
The particular fires are
Are those legal?
Jaime Solorza wrote:
Friend of mine in the valley ordered a drone jammer. Says teenagers
from nearby farm flying it over his families pool.Going to try to
make it drop on his property or Rio Grande. Told him to call me when
he gets it. Lots of idiots with drones out
OK, but specifically.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 11:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
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Part15
On 8/17/2015 1:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I wonder what frequencies they use for the flight controls?
From: Jaime
The particular fires are in southern BC along the US/Canada border from
Osoyoos over to Rock Creek/Kettle Valley area.
We've got a temporary service in place relayed from a neighboring WISP
now. It's not a lot, but it's something. Another community north of there
is completely in the dark due
Friend of mine in the valley ordered a drone jammer. Says teenagers from
nearby farm flying it over his families pool.Going to try to make it
drop on his property or Rio Grande. Told him to call me when he gets it.
Lots of idiots with drones out there
On Aug 17, 2015 10:57 AM, Steve D
http://www.thenetgunstore.com/2014/11/20/net-guns-for-drone-defense/
From: Cameron Crum
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 12:22 PM
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Maybe a microwave magnetron attached to a waveguide or directional antenna.
On Mon, Aug
Max range is about 45ft, effective range is 15ft. What good is that against a
drone?
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From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015
No. Not legal. He knows it. I want to see one in action from a
scientific point of view. I know I have enough stuff in batcave to make
one. Simple jammer is to connect several APs with 40 or 80Mhz channels and
cause intentional loop back. Or video transmitter with larger antenna. I
have
I would have thought VHF frequencies for the control.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 11:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...
You can get 2.4 or 5.8probably others.
It's common to use both bands, with one for control and one
I think there is much bigger fine for jamming those frequencies.
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 11:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...
You would have to jam GPS as well, since most will fly home if they lose WiFi
contact.
Yeah, that would seem sensible, but all the cheap ones I looked at used
either 2.4 or 5.8.
On 8/17/2015 1:55 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I would have thought VHF frequencies for the control.
*From:* Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 11:55 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
It's also a common feature for them to fly back to their launch position
if they lose signal from the remote. So if you jam it, you might be
able to follow it back to the operator.
On 8/17/2015 1:55 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
You can get 2.4 or 5.8probably others.
It's common to use both
I wonder if it's illegal to shoot them down if they're flying on your
property...
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
Right, but you WANT it to fly home so you can follow it. At 2.4ghz the
operator can't be too far away and you want to find him so you can
Bird shot.
Or just a nice plinking target for a 22 rifle. This is assuming you are not in
town.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 11:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com
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Right, but you WANT it to fly home so you can follow it.
Get video.
From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 11:06 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...
Friend of mine in the valley ordered a drone jammer. Says teenagers from
nearby farm flying it over his families pool.Going to try to make it
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/drone-operators-blast-irresponsible-and-selfish-flight-that-grounded-firefighters-1.3193540
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Surprising people would mess with firefighters.
I remember seeing a VW beetle someone
Maybe a microwave magnetron attached to a waveguide or directional antenna.
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Ryan Ray ryan...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/drone-operators-blast-irresponsible-and-selfish-flight-that-grounded-firefighters-1.3193540
On Mon,
I wonder what frequencies they use for the flight controls?
From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 11:46 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...
No. Not legal. He knows it. I want to see one in action from a scientific
point of view. I
You would have to jam GPS as well, since most will fly home if they lose WiFi
contact. Unless you deauth the pilot’s WiFi and take control of the drone.
From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 12:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...
OK,
Kind of like the FAA motto: We're not happy until you're not happy. Popular
one at the airport.
Jon Paul Kelley
CKS Wireless
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Tyler
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 9:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re:
It would be a shame if your toy copter got caught in the downdraft from the
firefighters full size copter. Although in this video it looks like the drone
was flying above the coast guard helicopter when it got sucked down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzyNtqiKIDw
From: Jaime Solorza
Sent:
I like the crossbow. More elegant and medieval...
On Aug 17, 2015 12:08 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Crossbow or long bow arrow pulling fishing line could mess them up.
*From:* Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 12:04 PM
*To:* af af@afmug.com
No more legal than the Marriott jamming WiFi.
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From: Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday,
They're probably just filming the fire and have no idea they're interfering
with the operations.
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From: Ken Hohhof
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