Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

2018-01-16 Thread Dave
I have used the cambium 3.65Ghz PMP450 and PMP450i since its debut. I have been very happy with performance and reach for this band. I run 10Mhz channels and most connections are 8x8x to 8x2x as expected when going through some tough tree like pines. Most of our cell ranges are sitting around

Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Migration from Platypus

2018-01-16 Thread Josh Luthman
I would move to Sonar just to avoid Platypus for the most part. That's before we even discuss the more modern tools and capabilities. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:23 PM, Sterling Jacobson

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt firmware

2018-01-16 Thread George Skorup
Yes, there are two software banks/flashes in the ExtendAir G2. On 1/16/2018 11:56 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Programming twice usually means there are two firmware banks and you're bringing both up to that version. I suspect there's some big change where the old firmware won't work anyway, so you

Re: [AFMUG] Sonar Migration from Platypus

2018-01-16 Thread Philip Rankin
 On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:23 PM Sterling Jacobson wrote: > Plat is great, and Sonar costs more, but I wanted a more modern system and > I was constantly fighting small glitches and bugs in the system including > PCI compliance. > > > > Also I don’t want to host anything

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

2018-01-16 Thread chuck
It seemed to me that there was a field test claiming to go through solid rock or some such thing. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis It works as well as you would expect the 3.65 follow-up to wimax to work, and maybe

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

2018-01-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
I am old school... still believe 900 will work better than 3.65 in NLOS. So the Cambium 900 solution isn't cutting it? Jaime Solorza On Jan 16, 2018 10:05 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" wrote: > > if you have a lot of interference in the 900 band, it does work much > better

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

2018-01-16 Thread Jason McKemie
It works as well as you would expect the 3.65 follow-up to wimax to work, and maybe then some. Nothing magical about the NLOS capabilities though. On Tuesday, January 16, 2018, wrote: > Did it live up to the promises? > > *From:* Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2018

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

2018-01-16 Thread Mike Hammett
It'd be going around (bouncing off of something) as opposed to through. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:39:10 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

2018-01-16 Thread Mathew Howard
It lives up to the promise of being reasonable priced LTE gear, and it works fine. If I had been expecting it to perform the same as 900mhz does (or did, when 900mhz was actually usable...) in NLOS, then I'd probably be a bit disappointed... being LTE, it does do better in NLOS than, say, Canopy

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

2018-01-16 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
For us, it goes a little further than 2.4, but not as far as 900. - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard To: af Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis It lives up to the promise of being reasonable priced LTE gear, and it works fine. If

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

2018-01-16 Thread chuck
Too lazy to look for the batch of promises that were made during initial testing, but I am pretty sure it was supposed to work much better than 900. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis For us, it goes a little further

Re: [AFMUG] Colo on Verizon owned Tower

2018-01-16 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Is it possibly to get a lease land for a tower for one of these big companies and then have in the lease that you are allowed to put antennas on that tower as part of the agreement rent free? On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: > I have a Verizon owned tower on

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

2018-01-16 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
if you have a lot of interference in the 900 band, it does work much better than 900 LOL fortunately our 900 still works pretty good here. We have one area where it does not but it is due to an "operator" nearby who does not believe in gps sync for canopy - Original Message -

Re: [AFMUG] Colo on Verizon owned Tower

2018-01-16 Thread Nate Burke
Years ago, back when cell towers were still a novelty item, we worked with a municipality where they forced the cellco to massively oversize the tower, which was located on city property, so the city could do with it what they wanted. I think they allowed the tower to be put up, so they got

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt firmware

2018-01-16 Thread Colin Stanners
I have many other releases but not that one. On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 3:38 PM, George Skorup wrote: > Looking for ExtendAir G2 release 1.2.2. Anybody have it? >

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt firmware

2018-01-16 Thread Adair Winter
I'll check On Jan 15, 2018 3:38 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > Looking for ExtendAir G2 release 1.2.2. Anybody have it? >

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

2018-01-16 Thread Jerry Head
Four-way Internet or something like that is pretty close I think. On 1/16/2018 12:16 AM, Robert wrote: Any wireless providers thereabout?   I have a customer that is looking for a secondary besides Comcast and says there are too many trees and it's too flat for any wireless providers down

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

2018-01-16 Thread Mathew Howard
All things being equal, 900mhz does work better than 3.65ghz in NLOS, and it always will. The Cambium 900mhz solution works quite nicely... where it works. The problem is that half of our sites either never worked very well because of interference, or one day they just start working like crap

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt firmware

2018-01-16 Thread Mike Hammett
Programming twice usually means there are two firmware banks and you're bringing both up to that version. I suspect there's some big change where the old firmware won't work anyway, so you need to flash twice to avoid accidentally rolling back to a firmware that won't work anymore.

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt firmware

2018-01-16 Thread Colin Stanners
Note: According to the ExtendAir G2 1.4.3 upgrade notes, if you have very early firmware you can upgrade your link to 1.1.0 then jump straight to 1.4.2 (which needs to be programmed in twice for reasons that I don't fully understand), then to 1.4.3. I can send you 1.1.0 firmware if you want. On

[AFMUG] Exalt support - FYI

2018-01-16 Thread Colin Stanners
To anyone else who has had issues contacting Exalt Communications support ( supp...@exaltcom.com seems to have had issues for some time), I was using an alternate e-mail address at a support subcontractor that has worked well: exaltsupp...@starmicrowave.com . If you need earlier radio firmware, I

Re: [AFMUG] Colo on Verizon owned Tower

2018-01-16 Thread Travis Johnson
I have a Verizon owned tower on a piece of my property. Verizon pays the rent every month. Travis On 1/15/2018 6:17 PM, Darin Steffl wrote: Verizon doesn't own their towers anymore. They sold every one to American Tower. So it must be AT that you're looking at. On Jan 15, 2018 6:28 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

2018-01-16 Thread chuck
What was that product that I think Rick and Patrick were both working with a couple of years ago that was supposed to be the be-all and end-all for NLOS /tree performance. Remember some preliminary test results then nothing. I just don't remember the brand or the outcome. Did it work? Is

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

2018-01-16 Thread Mike Hammett
Baicells - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:53:18 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis What was that product that I

Re: [AFMUG] Memphis

2018-01-16 Thread chuck
Did it live up to the promises? From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Memphis Baicells - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] VDSL2 DSLAM options

2018-01-16 Thread Sam Lambie
I spoke with versatek yesterday and they were pretty helpful. I have been buying their gear for a while now and am happy with them. The min 8 port DSLAM is about $800 and the 24 port is about $1400. On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 2:49 PM, Dave wrote: > Curious about this as we

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 link that won't pass an RFC2544 test at 500 Mbps

2018-01-16 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I ended up disabling inband management on the remote end temporarily, and got the same results... We are likely replacing the radio set with something that is actually 1GbE line rate and will pass frames sequentially. On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 4:03 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

2018-01-16 Thread Lewis Bergman
OMG! that is hilarious! On Tue, Jan 16, 2018, 7:33 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > https://youtu.be/snk3C4m44SY >

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 link that won't pass an RFC2544 test at 500 Mbps

2018-01-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
Hi. I actually ran those tests with Performant/Accedian, which caused UBNT to put flow control in. Inband management will still cause issues. Your max throughput will drop, but it should be stable. I still have the old test results around here somewhere. Remember, these radios have like

Re: [AFMUG] It was a brisk day

2018-01-16 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
what brand of camera is that? nice night time image. On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:56 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Installed this PTZ Speed Dome IP camera at booster site in Fabens. It's > online via Cradlepoint LTE 4G router along with two other IP cameras. Once >

Re: [AFMUG] VDSL2 DSLAM options

2018-01-16 Thread Rob Genovesi
Good question! Ours is at 17a (the default). 30a is unnecessary because we're rate limiting lower speeds (capacity constrained by microwave back haul). On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 6:09 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Are you using a 17a or 30a profile with that? > > On Mon, Jan

Re: [AFMUG] It was a brisk day

2018-01-16 Thread Robert
That's one of the ~$300 ones? I love them. Going to be setting up a bunch! On 1/16/18 6:56 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Installed this PTZ Speed Dome IP camera at booster site in Fabens.  It's online via Cradlepoint LTE 4G router along with two other IP cameras. Once construction of building

[AFMUG] OT Fun

2018-01-16 Thread Chuck McCown
https://youtu.be/snk3C4m44SY

Re: [AFMUG] OT Holiday?

2018-01-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Traffic is back, actually higher than normal today. Interesting that MLK affects folks that go to my site. Many small business do not give MLK off to their employees. And I presumed the small businesses were my main visitors. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 2:34 PM To:

[AFMUG] OT On TV tonight

2018-01-16 Thread Chuck McCown
I read a book or magazine article about this. Probably something in the Smithsonian or Atlantic. Was fascinating. Looks like it will be worth watching tonight. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/secret-tuxedo-park-trailer/

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

2018-01-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
What a maroon!!! Nyak Nyak Jaime Solorza On Jan 16, 2018 6:44 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > OMG! that is hilarious! > > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018, 7:33 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > >> https://youtu.be/snk3C4m44SY >> >

Re: [AFMUG] VDSL2 DSLAM options

2018-01-16 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Are you using a 17a or 30a profile with that? On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Rob Genovesi wrote: > Sam, > > Modems are syncing at ~100 Mbps DL and ~50 Mbps UL. We rate limit > with a Mikrotik at the head-end. Loop lengths are very short, under > 1kft. We use

Re: [AFMUG] Colo on Verizon owned Tower

2018-01-16 Thread Lewis Bergman
I have 5 towers where that is almost exactly what I have. I can put up equipment that is equal to or lesser than some config I listed out at the time of the agreement. The only thing I have to pay is electricity which is set at $50 per month per active site. I pay that annually. On Tue, Jan 16,