Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6

2018-12-06 Thread Lee Howard
On 12/6/18 1:47 PM, Noureddine IDBOUFKER via AfrIPv6-Discuss wrote: Sure there are many opportunities behind Transition to IPv6 but unfortunately, for African Operators in each country, there is also a risk. Every day elapsed before this transition moves them towards a very risky situation. I

Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6

2018-12-06 Thread Noureddine IDBOUFKER via AfrIPv6-Discuss
Sure there are many opportunities behind Transition to IPv6 but unfortunately, for African Operators in each country, there is also a risk. Every day elapsed before this transition moves them towards a very risky situation. I talk about Business and also technical risks. Unfortunately, the

Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6

2018-12-06 Thread Lee Howard
On 12/6/18 5:22 AM, Noureddine IDBOUFKER via AfrIPv6-Discuss wrote: I think that Top management is not enough *aware *of business opportunities behind IPv6 migration. Sure IPv6 will give them the opportunity to address a high number of objects, equipements, services,  but it is not limited

Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6

2018-12-06 Thread Lee Howard
This is a good point. IPv6, like the Internet itself, benefits from the "network effect," where it is more valuable as more people use it. A telecom regulator can call a meeting of ISPs, mobile carriers, web hosts, IXP,  the NREN or university, and maybe a few large companies, kick off with a

Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6

2018-12-06 Thread Mark Elkins
Hi, I would like to see people NOT deploy IPv6 - rather use the more costly CGN method of keeping your IPv4 address space going. Services you supply will cost more but no worries - just pass your costs on to your customers. In time, your customers may find they can't get to every Web Site because

Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6

2018-12-06 Thread Mukom Akong T
On 6 Dec 2018, 14:57 +0400, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ , wrote: > > My experience shows that usually engineers are aware (they may have the > complete knowledge or not, but they know that they need to do IPv6), but in > most organizations, executive management don’t pay attention to what their > own

Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6

2018-12-06 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via AfrIPv6-Discuss
Note that is not a migration, this is one of the first mistakes. It is a transition and coexistence. We really need to talk with the proper terminology or we will confuse others. The IETF never did any “migration” protocol, all them are “transition and coexistence”. You don’t “disable” IPv4

Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6

2018-12-06 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via AfrIPv6-Discuss
I also agree somehow what Mukom said before, but not 100% agreement I guess. Let me explain. Governments need to setup rules to mandate IPv6 in the public sector. This is easy to say, but believe me, there is not a generic “law” for every country. I’ve worked for several governments on this.

Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6

2018-12-06 Thread Noureddine IDBOUFKER via AfrIPv6-Discuss
I think that Top management is not enough aware of business opportunities behind IPv6 migration. Sure IPv6 will give them the opportunity to address a high number of objects, equipements, services,  but it is not limited to that. Top management has to encourage their people to be express

Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6

2018-12-06 Thread Pascal ANDRIANISA
Thank you Jordi, I think we need to go in this direction for operators to switch to IPv6 as soon as possible . Best regards, Pascal Heriliva ANDRIANISA Webmaster i RENALA R esearch and E ducation N etwork for A cademic and L earning A ctivities - [ http://www.irenala.edu.mg/ |

Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6

2018-12-06 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via AfrIPv6-Discuss
Operators are informed, if you speak about “engineers”, the problem is to inform the CEOs of operator AND the CEOs of important companies in each country (financial sectors, companies that export or have relevant web sites, etc.). I recall ARIN did sent a letter to them (in their region) a

Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6

2018-12-06 Thread Pascal ANDRIANISA
Dear All, I think there is also another solution which is to inform the operators in each country of the situation because if only the members who will apply IPv6 it will not be possible to use it optimally. I do not know if a provision to that effect has already been taken but I think that