Re: [agi] Please, read this plan and tell me what you guys think about it

2018-11-23 Thread justcamel via AGI
I never mentioned the word "capitalism" as the whole concept is nonsensical. Our monetary system defines the rules we play by and our socio-economic framework has to be called "debtism" and all the horrors in this world and our entire culture is a result of it. The relevant/underlying system

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2018-11-22 Thread Matt Mahoney via AGI
Ok I get that you and Ben Goertzel are into this psi nonsense. He won't debate it with anyone who hasn't read a bunch of books on it. I will accept it when we can reliably produce repeatable evidence showing it's existence. But it always disappears under scientific scrutuny. Casinos and lotteries

Re: [agi] Please, read this plan and tell me what you guys think about it

2018-11-22 Thread justcamel via AGI
Until 10 years ago, I featured the very same worldview as 99% of academia today and was totally ignorant when it came to any of this - I was making fun of people who talked about any form of afterlife or the paranormal and questioned their understanding of the very basics of physics and the

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2018-11-21 Thread Matt Mahoney via AGI
Justcamel, what makes you so sure your consciousness will survive after you die? I mean, a lot of people believe that with no evidence, but I don't think the reason is religious indoctrination in your case. Do you think that AGI is even possible? That a computer could one day pass the Turing

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2018-11-21 Thread Alan Grimes
I've been thinking of coming up with names for all the NPC's on this list. (very few actual participants). Here are some ideas for this one: "metaverse guy" "Nirvana man" "Mario player" Felipe Carmona Miquilini via AGI wrote: > That was amazing > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 11:26 AM justcamel

Re: [agi] Please, read this plan and tell me what you guys think about it

2018-11-21 Thread justcamel via AGI
There is no such thing as "sensation of consciousness". Consciousness is the observing quality ... the most fundamental "stuff" in this physical reality. Your entire experience of being a human happens within the substrate of consciousness. Just like the experience of being a "Night Elf" in

Re: [agi] Please, read this plan and tell me what you guys think about it

2018-11-20 Thread Matt Mahoney via AGI
Your sensations of consciousness, free will, qualia, and identity are evolutionary adaptations. You want to preserve them by not dying. This results in more offspring. You can transcend consciousness by running a simulation of your mind in a computer and modifying the software to produce any

Re: [agi] Please, read this plan and tell me what you guys think about it

2018-11-20 Thread justcamel via AGI
Evolution within this physical reality serves only one purpoe: To produce learning vehicles of various complexity for consciousness to "attach" to and to utilize in order to reduce the inherent entropy of consciousness (i.e. increasing the quality of consciousness). Many realized/enlightened

Re: [agi] Please, read this plan and tell me what you guys think about it

2018-11-17 Thread justcamel via AGI
p.s.: Also forget about the "Kardashev scale". No civlization ever harvests the energy of a star nor galaxy. That's a concept which seems to be a valid idea for a timespan of merely a 100 years. It requires individuals "intelligent" enough in order to envision it while at the same time not

Re: [agi] Please, read this plan and tell me what you guys think about it

2018-11-17 Thread Matt Mahoney via AGI
It's not that nobody cares. Automating labor with AGI is worth $1 quadrillion (15 years world GDP). If you can't raise $1 billion it means investors give your ideas less than a 1 in a million chance of working. Do you have a design for a 10 petaflop, 1 petabyte computer to run a human brain sized

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2018-11-17 Thread Alan Grimes
Bleh, good luck getting anyone to care enough to help AT ALL. =\ I'm suffering from extreme socio-economic exclusion in my personal life, and have a low and declining wellbeing as it is. =\ I have a pretty damn good idea what needs to be done to make AGI happens. Yeah, it will cost a few

[agi] Please, read this plan and tell me what you guys think about it

2018-11-17 Thread Felipe Carmona Miquilini via AGI
"No one will be left behind" Do you think that the humankind is intelligent? Sorry, but it actually isn't. There is a scale of intelligence developed my physicists, and we are about 0.6. 1 - Dominates the energy of whole Earth 2 - Dominates the energy of whole Solar System 3 - Dominates the energy