Re: [agi] Re: OpenAI just announced Sora, and it's incredible

2024-02-24 Thread immortal . discoveries
Ah, haha, darn it, I see, you went from transistors slowing out and yes other thingy exists - the slow right-now molecular computing you mentioned, which is far off currently. Though like I said I guess, I hope AI is its own thingy here, to boost us up like moore's law. It seems to grown large

Re: [agi] Re: OpenAI just announced Sora, and it's incredible

2024-02-24 Thread Matt Mahoney
The doubling time for Moore's law, 1.5 years, is just one of many technologies that underwent exponential growth for awhile, just like the automotive industry from 1890 to 1920. If it weren't for the limits of physics, we should have cars today that travel faster than light and cost less than a

Re: [agi] Re: OpenAI just announced Sora, and it's incredible

2024-02-23 Thread immortal . discoveries
Aren't you assuming Moore's Law is the only thing happening there to move progress ahead? You said doubling every 1.5 years...  But what happens when we have 8 billion humanoid robots, for example. Now they move and think 10x faster in just a couple of years next. Then 20x faster, for example.

Re: [agi] Re: OpenAI just announced Sora, and it's incredible

2024-02-23 Thread Matt Mahoney
Here are Manifold's predictions for SORA by the end of 2025. There is a 12% chance they can produce a 20-40 minute video. There is a 77% chance OpenAI will be sued, 30% chance of being banned in at least one EU country. Video will almost certainly be watermarked.

Re: [agi] Re: OpenAI just announced Sora, and it's incredible

2024-02-23 Thread immortal . discoveries
On Wednesday, February 21, 2024, at 7:05 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote: > I was not impressed with the music clips, but that's just me. This is shocking because on my end I have made a buffet of impressive and diverse masterpieces. And I can tell this is close to perfect they only didn't give us a

Re: [agi] Re: OpenAI just announced Sora, and it's incredible

2024-02-21 Thread Matt Mahoney
>From your examples it is obvious that text to image and video is rapidly improving. No doubt we will see this technology in movies by next year. But there is still a big step to custom generated music replacing mass media in about 30 years. Video game graphics have vastly improved over the last

Re: [agi] Re: OpenAI just announced Sora, and it's incredible

2024-02-17 Thread immortal . discoveries
*First see my last reply above, I showed something before but maybe you missed it I guess.* On Friday, February 16, 2024, at 1:16 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote: > It costs $1M to $10M to produce a movie for a mass audience that you would > pay $1 to $10 to watch. If Moore's law drops the price by

Re: [agi] Re: OpenAI just announced Sora, and it's incredible

2024-02-17 Thread immortal . discoveries
On Friday, February 16, 2024, at 1:16 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote: > Is audio a harder problem than video, or does video have a bigger payoff so > they attacked it first? > https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/13h0zyy/i_really_crank_out_music_tracks_with_musiclm_this/

Re: [agi] Re: OpenAI just announced Sora, and it's incredible

2024-02-17 Thread Shashank Yadav
Video clearly has a lot more commercial and military applications. Moreover, audio alone doesn't really offer a simulation of physical world with object permanence etc. Now there won't be user customized movies right away, but the present production process surely is going to get upended, and

Re: [agi] Re: OpenAI just announced Sora, and it's incredible

2024-02-16 Thread Matt Mahoney
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024, 1:33 AM wrote: > https://openai.com/research/video-generation-models-as-world-simulators > So many questions. How much training data, how much compute to train, how much compute to generate a video, how many parameters? It is estimated (because OpenAI didn't say) that

Re: [agi] Re: OpenAI just announced Sora, and it's incredible

2024-02-16 Thread James Bowery
OpenAI has lobotomized DALL-E to the point that it is virtually worthless for continuity.  I doubt they've done much better for switching between scenes of motion pictures.  You can't do such simple things as storyboards or graphic novels.  The way they achieved this feat of engineering? By

Re: [agi] Re: OpenAI just announced Sora, and it's incredible

2024-02-16 Thread mm ee
Based on how they describe it, they're using patching and represent videos as grids of diffused images. Definitely some clever attention work going on too, since occluded objects also remain pretty stable and also between camera cuts. The model size is speculated to be not that high either (rumor

[agi] Re: OpenAI just announced Sora, and it's incredible

2024-02-16 Thread stefan.reich.maker.of.eye via AGI
I'm officially speechless. Check out the waves example at  https://openai.com/sora. This is photorealism. Are they now simulating physics too? I wouldn't know how you could distinguish this from a real video. How did they advance the field by this much with a single release? OpenAI has shown

[agi] Re: OpenAI just announced Sora, and it's incredible

2024-02-16 Thread stefan.reich.maker.of.eye via AGI
On Friday, February 16, 2024, at 12:23 PM, immortal.discoveries wrote: > https://twitter.com/sama/status/1758219575882301608 So the spoon materializes out of thin air, moves strangely and then dissolves into the bowl. Other than that, I didn't see a single artifact. This is nuts. > sam posted

[agi] Re: OpenAI just announced Sora, and it's incredible

2024-02-16 Thread immortal . discoveries
sam posted some new ones to his twitter damn so good! https://twitter.com/sama/status/1758219575882301608 go to his account from this link okl, there's a few! -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

[agi] Re: OpenAI just announced Sora, and it's incredible

2024-02-15 Thread immortal . discoveries
https://openai.com/research/video-generation-models-as-world-simulators -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T4ad5d8c386d0e116-Mefbc68f2c524c51935538c45 Delivery options: