Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-09-14 Thread immortal . discoveries
Looking back at the link below, it makes you feel like we are witnessing a similar size race, they go from 15,000 15(KW) in China in 1888 to 100,000,000,000 (100GW) in China in 1987. https://www.ieee-pes.org/images/files/pdf/Chinas_Power_Industry_Milestones_IEEE_PES-20081010.pdf "China

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-09-12 Thread John Rose
On Saturday, September 11, 2021, at 2:00 AM, John Rose wrote: > I think the key is in the delegate handling with the object property > processing and network structure created off of that. For example, increasing > distance pressure between two dynamic objects but keeping them linked by >

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-09-11 Thread John Rose
On Sunday, September 05, 2021, at 5:11 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies wrote: > For historical references, Common Lisp and even Lisp 1.5 had reflection too. > Around 1980. > (On my spare time, with others, I am slowly developing http://refpersys.org/ > - an open source GPLv3+ licensed

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-09-05 Thread doddy
ynkevitch > *Sent:* Saturday, 04 September 2021 18:42 > *To:* agi@agi.topicbox.com > *Subject:* Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter > > > > On 8/19/21 2:47 PM, John Rose wrote: > > For example, dot net has a feature called reflection, as does Java, that > enables code t

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-09-05 Thread Nanograte Knowledge Technologies
Great share! Thanks From: Basile Starynkevitch Sent: Saturday, 04 September 2021 18:42 To: agi@agi.topicbox.com Subject: Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter On 8/19/21 2:47 PM, John Rose wrote: For example, dot net has a feature called reflection, as does Java

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-09-04 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 8/19/21 2:47 PM, John Rose wrote: For example, dot net has a feature called reflection, as does Java, that enables code to look at itself. Using this all sorts of chores are typically done in everyday development. Yet reflection has not been utilized to its full capability IMO. In some

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-20 Thread James Bowery
By the way, a brief examination of the formulas and sensitivities should immediately point to Ashkenazi Jews as a strategic target of attack by the Chinese but there is a more subtle and profound reason to suspect this than the mere IQ advantage: Ashkenazi Jews are a market dominant minority

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-20 Thread James Bowery
On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 10:09 AM Matt Mahoney wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 20, 2021, 10:25 AM James Bowery wrote: > >> Why America Lost The Cold War With The Chinese Communists >> >> > > If I understand your code

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-20 Thread Matt Mahoney
On Fri, Aug 20, 2021, 10:25 AM James Bowery wrote: > Why America Lost The Cold War With The Chinese Communists > > If I understand your code correctly, you claim that China has access to 32 times as many

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-20 Thread James Bowery
Why America Lost The Cold War With The Chinese Communists On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 7:08 AM Quan Tesla wrote: > Thanks for your response. For a perspective on engineering transhumanism, > I can only refer you to

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-20 Thread Quan Tesla
Thanks for your response. For a perspective on engineering transhumanism, I can only refer you to the Wilson Center's objectives for an Internet of Living Things/Bodies/People. There are various reputable sources for Humanity 2.0, the Vatican being one of them. “It is too soon to tell” — the real

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-19 Thread John Rose
On Thursday, August 19, 2021, at 1:03 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote: > Still, DNA based replication is pretty close to the speed and efficiency > limits that Freitas calculated for nanotechnology. Moving atoms exactly where > you want them takes work on the order of 10 to 100 kilojoules per gram, >

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-19 Thread Matt Mahoney
> -- > *From:* John Rose > *Sent:* Wednesday, 18 August 2021 11:24 > *To:* AGI > *Subject:* Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter > > On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, at 2:59 AM, Nanograte Knowledge > Technologies wrote: > That's missing the point. Evol

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-19 Thread WriterOfMinds
On Thursday, August 19, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Quan Tesla wrote: > ... would you consider your intelligence to be committed to a rapid > evolutionary process with purpose to eventually assume network-interactive > cyborgian functionality? Nope. I might describe myself as transhumanism-curious. I

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-19 Thread Quan Tesla
Have you read my white paper on last-mile knowledge engineering, which I shared more than once to this forum? If you hadn't, do go read it and let's discuss/critique the technical implications for agi development. On 19 Aug 2021 09:00, wrote: > I'm not sure what you're trying to say NKT, I'm

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-19 Thread Quan Tesla
For many years, a program called Magic has been rewriting and merging code from different languages. Pitrat's agi autogenerated code and in doing so improved upon known solutions to many, classical mathematical problems. On 19 Aug 2021 16:27, "John Rose" wrote: > On Thursday, August 19, 2021, at

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-19 Thread Quan Tesla
I have a general question. Given the nanotech now integrated with your DNA, would you consider your intelligence to be committed to a rapid evolutionary process with purpose to eventually assume network-interactive cyborgian functionality? I concede there are other methods with which to achieve

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-19 Thread John Rose
For example, dot net has a feature called reflection, as does Java, that enables code to look at itself. Using this all sorts of chores are typically done in everyday development. Yet reflection has not been utilized to its full capability IMO. In some ways yes, for example look at NSwag API

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-19 Thread John Rose
On Thursday, August 19, 2021, at 12:31 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies wrote: > Bots write better software than humans do. In some ways they do, for example Visual Studio (which I use) has Intellicode which suggests snippets quite well. But with bots writing software there are huge

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-18 Thread immortal . discoveries
Ya this thread is on Alan's chip implant vaccine sabatoge and NKT replied to it lol.it's an experimental drug, only take it if you have real big sh*t at stake like you are an actress that is raking in 500Million a year and could lose your life. I didn't take it, I stay at home mostly, and

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-18 Thread WriterOfMinds
On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, at 10:31 PM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies wrote: > We're somewhat out of time. Let's see what happens this month, then - if > we're lucky - we'll talk again. What's special about this month? And I take it you think *I'm* a cyborg now. You don't even have any

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-18 Thread immortal . discoveries
I'm not sure what you're trying to say NKT, I'm here and listening if you have a way to make AGI or solve death. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tace3f9aea35af378-Mbd6adc127522fed475cd81bc

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-18 Thread Nanograte Knowledge Technologies
. From: John Rose Sent: Wednesday, 18 August 2021 20:59 To: AGI Subject: Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, at 2:38 PM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies wrote: Seriously, you're going to refer to the OS/2 relic when we're talking about agi in context of the 'Internet

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-18 Thread immortal . discoveries
Darn those little nutacases that remove precious text. Here it is again back from the dead!! And I shall save it to my computer, now!: https://www.socialgrep.com/search?query=ilya%20sutskever -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-18 Thread John Rose
On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, at 2:38 PM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies wrote: > Seriously, you're going to refer to the OS/2 relic when we're talking about > agi in context of the 'Internet of People'? > > Hot air balloons vs spacecraft.  Comparatively in the context of software

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-18 Thread Nanograte Knowledge Technologies
] Re: Black Winter On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, at 2:59 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies wrote: So much balderdash and egotistical tripe on this group these days, with flashes of occasional insight. I'm here for the rare flashes only. Someone, somewhere, must soon, and hopefully real soon

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-18 Thread Nanograte Knowledge Technologies
ology would evolve the same way." From: John Rose Sent: Wednesday, 18 August 2021 11:24 To: AGI Subject: Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, at 2:59 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies wrote: That's missing the point. Evolution prog

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-18 Thread James Bowery
That is applicable to mitotic life, not meotic life. The selfish genes that invented sex also invented the mortal individual -- programmed for death -- as its ultimate evolutionary platform, resulting in the Cambrian Explosion once that platform had been perfected. It is disadvantageous to those

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-18 Thread John Rose
On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, at 6:17 AM, immortal.discoveries wrote: > Not black winter but summer shine: > https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/p5uh1r/openais_chief_scientist_ilya_sutskever_comments/ Yes. AGI will become 10 with a lot of zeros after it smarter. And they'll be an

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-18 Thread immortal . discoveries
I like the part where he just about copy pasta what I say haha -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tace3f9aea35af378-Mead0919d66ceb0555b929edd Delivery options:

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-18 Thread immortal . discoveries
Not black winter but summer shine: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/p5uh1r/openais_chief_scientist_ilya_sutskever_comments/ -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-18 Thread John Rose
On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, at 2:59 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies wrote: > That's missing the point. Evolution programmed you to fear death and then > die. We invented religion to cope. > > Any self replicating nanotechnology would evolve the same way. That's an oversimplification.

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-18 Thread John Rose
On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, at 2:59 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies wrote: > So much balderdash and egotistical tripe on this group these days, with > flashes of occasional insight. I'm here for the rare flashes only. Someone, > somewhere, must soon, and hopefully real soon, realize how

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-18 Thread immortal . discoveries
Ya well OpenAI requires you to go to their building to be part of the team, and I'm not doing that. I'm going to stay safe in my home. California could fall into the ocean BTW, better I stay away from the darn place. Once they get more intelligent they can hit me up online. They actually

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-18 Thread Nanograte Knowledge Technologies
solidation. Say ta-ta to the ship as it steams away. Remember to switch off the light. From: Matt Mahoney Sent: Wednesday, 18 August 2021 04:45 To: AGI Subject: Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter That's missing the point. Evolution programmed you to fear death and the

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-17 Thread immortal . discoveries
I don't think at such a stage proposed, that nanobots will still believe in god Matt. . . . . that would not fit in with having a world full of alive metal ugborgs made of super powered batteries.it's one way or the other -- Artificial General

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-17 Thread Matt Mahoney
That's missing the point. Evolution programmed you to fear death and then die. We invented religion to cope. Any self replicating nanotechnology would evolve the same way. On Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 4:37 PM John Rose wrote: > On Tuesday, August 17, 2021, at 1:34 PM, magnuswootton81 wrote: > > god

Re: [agi] Re: Black Winter

2021-08-17 Thread Mike Archbold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3HQMbQAWRc On 8/17/21, John Rose wrote: > On Tuesday, August 17, 2021, at 1:34 PM, magnuswootton81 wrote: >> god kills off everyone, he doesnt give a shit. > > [(Big Banks) + (Big Gov't) + (Big Tech) + (Big Pharma) + (Big Media)] are > playing God. > > but, AGI