The environmental complexities are different. NYC has been there for
hundreds of years. Human brain has been in nature for hundreds of thousands
of years. A manmade environment for AGI is custom made in the beginning; we
don't just throw it out on the street or into the jungle. It can start off
in
From: Mike Tintner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
John:The synchronous melodies of the crickets strumming their legs,
changes
harmony as the wind moves warmthness. The reeds vibrate; the birds,
fearing
the snake, break their rhythmic falsetto polyphonies and flutter away to
new
pastures.
Joseph,
On 5/20/08, Joseph Gentle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Steve Richfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now, decades later, come the present discussions about patterns,
apparently
advanced along with the same lines of thought that was behind that IQ
test
so
From: Joseph Gentle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
There are two interesting points here.
The first is that (in my opinion) pattern matching must come first. I
agree that understanding the patterns (the /why/) is important; but
seeing (even unjustified) patterns is crucial. The benchmark I
John G: human musical pattern extrapolation fidelity is a sort of an
averaging of the human minds full
capability of an astonishingly robust pattern recognizing ability...I feel
that our modern audial
pattern recognition ability has been extremely dumbed down
The arts as seen by a
John Rose writes: So I feel that much of our brain mass is there due to the
natural richness of nature, and there may be quite a bit of overkill compared
to what would be needed in software AGI.
Are we satisfied building AGIs that cannot cope with the actual world because
it is too rich?
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Derek Zahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Rose writes:
So I feel that much of our brain mass is there due to the natural richness
of nature, and there may be quite a bit of overkill compared to what would
be needed in software AGI.
Are we satisfied building
Subject: RE: [agi] Pattern extrapolation as a method requiring limited
intelligence
John Rose writes:
So I feel that much of our brain mass is there due to the natural richness
of nature, and there may be quite a bit of overkill compared to what would
be needed in software AGI.
Are we satisfied
Vladimir Nesov: I think sterile texture of artificial environments hides
the richness of their structure from our intuition, since we already have it
imprinted by experience with the real world. Anything less than capable of
dealing with the real world won't understand cleaned up environments
From: Mike Tintner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's actually obvious if you care to listen, that music involves a
combination of pattern fitting/extrapolation and pattern BREAKING. The
whole
point of a pop song is that it involves a creative idea - a *twist* on
existing patterns. That's why
From: Mike Tintner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's actually obvious if you care to listen, that music involves a
combination of pattern fitting/extrapolation and pattern BREAKING. The
whole
point of a pop song is that it involves a creative idea - a *twist* on
existing patterns. That's why
John:The synchronous melodies of the crickets strumming their legs, changes
harmony as the wind moves warmthness. The reeds vibrate; the birds, fearing
the snake, break their rhythmic falsetto polyphonies and flutter away to new
pastures.
But with humans, pattern-breaking and the seeking of
.
Thanks.
Steve Richfield
*From:* Steve Richfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Friday, May 16, 2008 9:38 PM
*To:* agi@v2.listbox.com
*Subject:* [agi] Pattern extrapolation as a method requiring limited
intelligence
Hi y'all,
I can still remember an incident when I was just 13
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