RE: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list?

2008-08-05 Thread Ed Porter
PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 1:57 PM To: agi@v2.listbox.com Subject: RE: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list? I think I have a better idea. I believe the problem has to do with assumptions. If I have an AI system that assumes an AGI can be made

Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list?

2008-08-03 Thread Stefan Pernar
Yes we do. The willingness of some members (especially Loosemore) to engage in antisocial behavior is very counterproductive. Stefan On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Ed's email was a bit harsh, but not as harsh as many of Richard's (which are

Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list?

2008-08-03 Thread Bob Mottram
2008/8/3 Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anyone else have an opinion on this? Also, can we limit the use of capitalization (aka shouting). There may be rare circumstances under which this is necessary, but most of the time it seems to be used gratuitously. - Bob

Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list?

2008-08-03 Thread Mark Waser
-- but for those who felt my last e-mail was too long, this is the essence of my argument (and very well expressed). - Original Message - From: Vladimir Nesov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger

Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list?

2008-08-03 Thread Ben Goertzel
Richard, I will not take time to statistically analyze your history of email posts. My prior message, to which you take exception, represents my subjective impression based on years of reading your posts. As a human being, I frequently find reading your posts an unpleasant experience, not

Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list?

2008-08-03 Thread Ben Goertzel
PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list? On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Ed's email was a bit harsh, but not as harsh as many

Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list?

2008-08-03 Thread Jim Bromer
I used to think that critical attacks on a person's general thinking were reasonable, but I have found that the best way to reduce the most hostile and intolerant comments is to be overly objective and refrain from making any personal comments at all. Unfortunately, I have found that you have to

Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list?

2008-08-03 Thread Charles Hixson
Vladimir Nesov wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Ed's email was a bit harsh, but not as harsh as many of Richard's (which are frequently full of language like fools, rubbish and so forth ...). Some of your emails have been pretty harsh in

RE: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list?

2008-08-03 Thread David Clark
: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August-03-08 11:25 AM To: agi@v2.listbox.com Subject: Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list? I think the sniper based moderation policy for SL4 works pretty well and might be appropriate for this list. http://www.sl4

Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list?

2008-08-03 Thread Terren Suydam
: Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list? To: agi@v2.listbox.com Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 12:52 PM I have never posted to the list before for exactly the reasons under discussion. It seems to me that the list is dominated, in terms of volume, not, I think

Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list?

2008-08-03 Thread Ben Goertzel
-Original Message- From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August-03-08 11:25 AM To: agi@v2.listbox.com Subject: Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list? I think the sniper based moderation policy for SL4 works pretty well and might

Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list?

2008-08-03 Thread Harry Chesley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list? To: agi@v2.listbox.com Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 12:52 PM I have never posted to the list before for exactly the reasons under discussion. It seems to me that the list is dominated, in terms of volume

P.S.; Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list?

2008-08-03 Thread Charles Hixson
Charles Hixson wrote: Vladimir Nesov wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Ed's email was a bit harsh, but not as harsh as many of Richard's (which are frequently full of language like fools, rubbish and so forth ...). Some of your emails

Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list?

2008-08-03 Thread John LaMuth
Ben With my extensive training as a mediation counselor let me suggest my own newly developed Mediation System Technology as an aide to making such decisions concerning politeness... (which also enjoys certain applications to a guaranteed friendly AGI) This system is based upon a primary

Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list?

2008-08-03 Thread Lukasz Kaiser
I would be willing to enforce a stronger code of politeness on this list if that is what the membership wants. I have been told before, in other contexts, that I tend to be overly tolerant of rude behavior. Anyone else have an opinion on this? I would be very happy with some simple (and

Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list?

2008-08-03 Thread Jim Bromer
I seriously meant it to be a friendly statement. Obviously I expressed myself poorly. Jim Bromer On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Brad Paulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This from the guy who only about three or four days ago responded to a post I made here by telling me to get a life. And, that

Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list?

2008-08-03 Thread Brad Paulsen
Jim Bromer, This post is not intended for you specifically, but for the entire group. I accept your apology. Peace. And now... Everybody, Gee, it seems like elitism and censorship are alive and well on the AGI list. I can't believe some of the stuff I've read in this thread. Much of

Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list?

2008-08-03 Thread David Hart
I favor voluntary adoption of Crocker's Rules (explained at http://www.sl4.org/crocker.html more at http://www.google.com/search?q=crocker's+rules). -dave --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed:

Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list?

2008-08-02 Thread Judith Barnett
I'm relatively new here, as I've only been reading for a couple of months, and I am hesitant to speak because the level of venom directed at others seems to be very high. I'd like it better if the hostility was toned down a lot. My personal opinion is that if as much energy was devoted to

Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list?

2008-08-02 Thread Richard Loosemore
Ben Goertzel wrote: I think Ed's email was a bit harsh, but not as harsh as many of Richard's (which are frequently full of language like fools, rubbish and so forth ...). I am sorry: I am not going to stand by and let you make accusations without substantiating them. Find evidence for