Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Complete Shiny Economy Overhaul

On Sun, 2 Jul 2017, Alex Smith wrote: Create a new rule, "Assisted Actions", at power 2, with the following text: {{{ If a rule states that a person can perform an action as an "assisted action", that means that that person can perform that action: 1. By announcement, if that person has not

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Appeal of CFJ 3534; go vote!

On Sun, 2 Jul 2017, omd wrote: Oh, and I'd say Unicode basically doesn't matter, only visual appearance in common email clients. The following text: { ‮‭I do X.‬ ‭I do Y.‬‬ } uses the Unicode control characters LRO, RLO, and PDF; a pseudo-HTML equivalent would be: { I do X. I do Y. } In other

Re: DIS: Reminder: Birthday Tournament

Yes. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Jul 2, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 2:25 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: >

Re: DIS: Reminder: Birthday Tournament

On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 2:25 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > I just wanted to remind everyone that the Birthday Tournament has begun. > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > > > > Did you ever actually

DIS: Reminder: Birthday Tournament

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Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Complete Shiny Economy Overhaul

What if AP was for the pending of proposals you didn't author, and CFJing? On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 13:18 Nicholas Evans wrote: > On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Alex Smith > wrote: > >> On Sun, 2017-07-02 at 15:06 -0500, Nicholas Evans wrote: >> > On

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Appeal of CFJ 3534; go vote!

On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 9:12 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > - We have a tradition of fixed-width displays, to the extent that we make > our reports and other legal documents (tables) that way. If tables don't > display correctly, we tend to say "switch to a fixed width

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Appeal of CFJ 3534; go vote!

On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 10:40 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > I'd say that your first two sentences are both effectively quoting the > end of the sentence; «I disagree on this point, and the reason is > "colons aren't always used for quotation"». The third is ambiguous > between

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Appeal of CFJ 3534; go vote!

On Sun, 2017-07-02 at 22:30 +0200, omd wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 7:25 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > > and in the first case, it's clear that the second line is > > being quoted even if you don't attempt to machine-translate the Arabic > > (from the fairly well-known

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Appeal of CFJ 3534; go vote!

On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 7:25 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > and in the first case, it's clear that the second line is > being quoted even if you don't attempt to machine-translate the Arabic > (from the fairly well-known facts that Arabic is right-to-left and that > a colon is a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Complete Shiny Economy Overhaul

On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2017-07-02 at 15:06 -0500, Nicholas Evans wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Alex Smith > > wrote: > > > I know, but you never make a /profit/ by spending Shinies. So > > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Complete Shiny Economy Overhaul

On Sun, 2017-07-02 at 15:06 -0500, Nicholas Evans wrote: > On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Alex Smith > wrote: > > I know, but you never make a /profit/ by spending Shinies. So > > failing to make a loss is the best you can manage. > > That's not true. Since FV changes

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Complete Shiny Economy Overhaul

On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2017-07-02 at 14:48 -0500, Nicholas Evans wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Alex Smith > > wrote: > > > I think the AP stuff was economically problematic as given as

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Complete Shiny Economy Overhaul

On Sun, 2017-07-02 at 14:48 -0500, Nicholas Evans wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Alex Smith > wrote: > > I think the AP stuff was economically problematic as given as there'd > > very rarely be a need to spend shinies. How often does a typical player > > do

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Complete Shiny Economy Overhaul

I'll have more detailed thoughts later, but overall I'm concerned about Support slowing things down and creating more uncertainty (players having to check if something has received enough Support). In my version, I tried to make the decisions as self-contained as possible so we're not waiting for

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Complete Shiny Economy Overhaul

On Sun, 2017-07-02 at 21:27 +0200, Cuddle Beam wrote: > "A player SHOULD perform an action as an assisted action only if that > player is new to Agora (and thus has not yet had much of a chance to > earn shinies), or if that action has only trivial consequences, or if > that action is intended to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Complete Shiny Economy Overhaul

"A player SHOULD perform an action as an assisted action only if that player is new to Agora (and thus has not yet had much of a chance to earn shinies), or if that action has only trivial consequences, or if that action is intended to be beneficial to Agora as a whole." I'm wary of codified

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Complete Shiny Economy Overhaul

On Fri, 2017-06-30 at 22:32 +0100, Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2017-06-29 at 20:42 -0500, Nic Evans wrote: > > [economic overhaul] > > I like the ideas of this and think it would be an improvement, but I've > also been working on my own overhaul proposal (aiming for similar > goals) which would

Re: DIS: Heir bugs.

On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 7:47 AM, CuddleBeam wrote: > Found a thing while reading the Ruleset for my thesis (ty btw Orjan and > Chuck for those recent replies, I appreciate it) > > So: > > R2485 has: > >> (...) If the player does not do so within 1 day of deregistration,

Re: DIS: Heir bugs.

Amend 2483 by changing "Agora, each player, and each organization have corresponding switches known as Balance switches." to "Agora, each person, and each organization have corresponding switches known as Balance switches." or does something more need to be done. On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 5:27 PM,

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7865-7866

On Sun, 2017-07-02 at 18:30 +0200, omd wrote: > On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 2:13 AM, Aris Merchant > > Replace the text of Rule 2450 with the following: > > > > {{{ > >   A player SHALL NOT break eir own publicly-made pledges. > > > >   A pledge MAY be considered broken if the pledgor does not

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Appeal of CFJ 3534; go vote!

On Sun, 2017-07-02 at 18:21 +0200, omd wrote: > Anyway, I'd argue that this doesn't matter, nor is it necessary to > inspect the Unicode to determine the 'correct' ordering.  The effect > of the message can be decided on much simpler grounds: > > 1. The text "I call for judgement on the following

Re: DIS: Heir bugs.

On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 4:47 PM, CuddleBeam wrote: >> Agora, each player, and each organization have corresponding switches >> known as Balance switches. > > So, persons don't have Balance Switches. Nice catch. There's also some semantic confusion here: if you take

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3533 assigned to omd (attempt 2)

I appreciate the history and acknowledgment that my interpretation wasn't outlandish - as ADOP I'll get the Agoran Decisions for these going when I get back from vacation on Tuesday. Reminder: Elections and the agoran decisions on who to elect are different concepts, though highly related. As

DIS: Heir bugs.

Found a thing while reading the Ruleset for my thesis (ty btw Orjan and Chuck for those recent replies, I appreciate it) So: R2485 has: (...) If the player does not do so within 1 day of deregistration, the > Registrar CAN and SHALL cause that player to pay eir Balance to Agora and > to

Re: DIS: testing mailman 3

On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 8:23 AM, grok (caleb vines) wrote: > On Jun 30, 2017 4:00 PM, "omd" wrote > > (You're not using the Gmail web interface, right?) > > > Gmail's web client actually has the "plain text" button which automatically > applies fixed width

RE: DIS: Thesis: Spivak Culture

> It is actually possible that the Spivak uses in Agora's initial ruleset were > taken > from somewhere else. To quote Chuck from 1994 (see attached > message): > > > A few comments: I deliberately left in problems and vague areas > > because 1) I had a limited time (~1 week) to write this, and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer holds auctions

R2491 has: At the start of each month, if Agora owns at least one Estate, the Surveyor > shall put one Estate > which is owned by Agora up for > auction, by announcement. Each auction ends seven days >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer holds auctions

This is regulated because it enables the action by causing auctions to exist and defining them. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Jul 1, 2017, at 9:47 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > >Where does a rule exist that allows _you_ to

Re: Re: Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer holds auctions

>Auctions are a regulated action. They're specifically regulated by the >rules Point me those rules then please lol, or say where and how exactly, as I have. >and even if they weren't, no sensical (shut up, it's a word now) >interpretation would allow you to auction things that another

Re: DIS: testing mailman 3

On Jun 30, 2017 4:00 PM, "omd" wrote (You're not using the Gmail web interface, right?) Gmail's web client actually has the "plain text" button which automatically applies fixed width rules to unformatted text. I've been using it when I send messages from the web client and