it doesn't need AI 3.1: any proposal with AI 3 can amend any rule of
whatever power (rules are odd)
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 4:20 AM James Cook via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > Title: Identity theft protection act
> > Co-authors: G., P.S.S.
> > AI: 3.1
> > Text:
> >
>
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 12:42 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> What do y'all think of these? If there's a strong consensus for one or
> the other, I'll only submit that one.
>
> -Aris
> ---
> Title: Rule Violations (option 1)
> Adoption index: 3.0
>
What do y'all think of these? If there's a strong consensus for one or
the other, I'll only submit that one.
-Aris
---
Title: Rule Violations (option 1)
Adoption index: 3.0
Author: Aris
Co-author(s):
If the author's proposal "Rule Violations (option 2)" has been or
would be adopted with a
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 5:40 PM nch via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Thursday, June 4, 2020 7:25:03 PM CDT Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > What do y'all think of this proto?
> >
> > -Aris
> > ---
> > Title: Certifiable Patches
> > Adoption index: 1.0
> > Author: Aris
> >
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 5:40 PM nch via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Thursday, June 4, 2020 7:25:03 PM CDT Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > What do y'all think of this proto?
> >
> > -Aris
> > ---
> > Title: Certifiable Patches
> > Adoption index: 1.0
> > Author: Aris
> >
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 5:28 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On 6/4/20 8:25 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> > Any player CAN, by announcement, certify a specified proposal (as a
> > patch),
> > causing it to become pended.
>
>
> This would enable pending
On Thursday, June 4, 2020 7:25:03 PM CDT Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
wrote:
> What do y'all think of this proto?
>
> -Aris
> ---
> Title: Certifiable Patches
> Adoption index: 1.0
> Author: Aris
> Co-author(s): nch, P.S.S.
This version looks better, but to be transparent I'll likely vote
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:25 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:43 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
> agora-discussion wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:37 AM Rebecca via agora-discussion
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 1:35 AM
On 6/4/20 8:25 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> Any player CAN, by announcement, certify a specified proposal (as a patch),
> causing it to become pended.
This would enable pending proposals that were already voted on or are
currently being voted on. Otherwise looks good to
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:43 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
agora-discussion wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:37 AM Rebecca via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 1:35 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
> > agora-discussion wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Jun 4,
On 6/4/20 8:18 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> I retract this proposal.
>
> -Aris
"I retract this proposal.", said Aris to the discussion forum.
--
Jason Cobb
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 10:42 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business
wrote:
>
> I submit the following proposal.
>
> -Aris
> ---
> Title: Certifiable Patches
I retract this proposal.
-Aris
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:55 AM nch via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> Ok I think these are the newest and current versions of these proposals in the
> pool, minus Vote Manipulation. Apologies if I make comments that are redundant
> with discussion, the comments on these have gotten a bit sprawling.
On 6/4/2020 12:13 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 7:20 AM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> On 6/3/2020 11:23 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 11:11 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
On 6/3/2020 11:00 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> A player SHALL
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:20 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> On 6/4/2020 12:09 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:04 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >> On 6/4/2020 11:38 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> >>>
On 6/4/2020 12:13 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> On the other hand, is it even a good idea to discourage
> people from producing unpopular or inadvisable proposals? A proposal, is,
> at the end of the day, an option, and can always be voted down.
Exactly! So we're agreed that
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:20 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
>
> On 6/4/2020 12:09 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:04 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >> On 6/4/2020 11:38 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:32 PM
On 6/4/2020 12:09 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:04 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> On 6/4/2020 11:38 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:32 PM Aris Merchant wrote:
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:24 AM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:13 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 7:20 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > On 6/3/2020 11:23 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 11:11 PM
On Thursday, June 4, 2020 2:13:33 PM CDT Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
wrote:
> It is in fair part my fault for using proposals rather than protos for
> ideas. Ideally, a proposal should signify "this is ready for voting" and a
> proto should signify "this is an idea that is ready for
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 7:20 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> On 6/3/2020 11:23 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 11:11 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/3/2020 11:00 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:04 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
>
> On 6/4/2020 11:38 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:32 PM Aris Merchant wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:24 AM Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >>> On 6/4/2020 9:37 AM, Publius Scribonius
On 6/4/2020 11:38 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:32 PM Aris Merchant wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:24 AM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>> On 6/4/2020 9:37 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:09 PM Rebecca wrote:
> On
Ok I think these are the newest and current versions of these proposals in the
pool, minus Vote Manipulation. Apologies if I make comments that are redundant
with discussion, the comments on these have gotten a bit sprawling.
On Thursday, June 4, 2020 1:00:56 AM CDT Aris Merchant via
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:38 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
agora-discussion wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:32 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:24 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
> >
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:32 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:24 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > On 6/4/2020 9:37 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> > >
> [
> As a side note, I've noticed recently there's a bit of divergence about
> how people treat the importance of Notices of Honour. I've mostly thought
> of NoHs as "expressing mild annoyance" rather than anything more serious
> (though sometimes I mis-judge the tone in the justification). But
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:24 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> On 6/4/2020 9:37 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:09 PM Rebecca wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 2:00 AM Kerim Aydinwrote:
> >>> I think having
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 1:13 PM nch via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Thursday, June 4, 2020 12:00:24 PM CDT you wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:56 PM nch via agora-discussion
> >
> > wrote:
> > > On Thursday, June 4, 2020 11:49:08 AM CDT David Nicol via agora-discussion
> > >
> > > wrote:
On 6/4/2020 10:13 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Thursday, June 4, 2020 12:00:24 PM CDT you wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:56 PM nch wrote:
>>> On Thursday, June 4, 2020 11:49:08 AM CDT David Nicol wrote:
this was Warnocked. Does anyone else feel like this kind of thing
On 6/4/2020 9:37 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:09 PM Rebecca wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 2:00 AM Kerim Aydinwrote:
>>> I think having the option of a 0 being a regular thing is just fine, given
>> that the alternative is possibly taking wins away
On Thursday, June 4, 2020 12:00:24 PM CDT you wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:56 PM nch via agora-discussion
>
> wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 4, 2020 11:49:08 AM CDT David Nicol via agora-discussion
> >
> > wrote:
> > > this was Warnocked. Does anyone else feel like this kind of thing
> > >
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:56 PM nch via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Thursday, June 4, 2020 11:49:08 AM CDT David Nicol via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > this was Warnocked. Does anyone else feel like this kind of thing
> > would be a good idea, asserting Agora Nomic as something beyond an
> >
On Thursday, June 4, 2020 11:49:08 AM CDT David Nicol via agora-discussion
wrote:
> this was Warnocked. Does anyone else feel like this kind of thing
> would be a good idea, asserting Agora Nomic as something beyond an
> engrossing distraction for the active players?
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at
this was Warnocked. Does anyone else feel like this kind of thing
would be a good idea, asserting Agora Nomic as something beyond an
engrossing distraction for the active players?
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 3:06 PM David Nicol wrote:
>
>
> (1) judiciary thing: craft some immutables that allow
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:36 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On 6/4/20 12:24 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > Do you know why we set it such that apologies expunge at least 3
> > blots? This has discouraged me from making lesser fines forgivable.
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:09 PM Rebecca via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 2:00 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > On 6/4/2020 8:47 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:43 AM Rebecca
On 6/4/20 12:24 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
wrote:
> Do you know why we set it such that apologies expunge at least 3
> blots? This has discouraged me from making lesser fines forgivable.
>
Rule 2557:
> If the
> investigator does so, the perp CAN, in a timely
On Thursday, June 4, 2020 11:09:25 AM CDT Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote:
> > I think having the option of a 0 being a regular thing is just fine, given
>
> that the alternative is possibly taking wins away from people when certain
> officers get pointed at for missing a report, other
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:00 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
>
> On 6/4/2020 8:47 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:43 AM Rebecca wrote:
> >>
> >> Blots are about to be significantly harder to remove, and the general
> >> Agoran expectation is
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 2:00 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> On 6/4/2020 8:47 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:43 AM Rebecca wrote:
> >>
> >> Blots are about to be significantly harder to remove, and the
On 6/4/2020 8:47 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:43 AM Rebecca wrote:
>>
>> Blots are about to be significantly harder to remove, and the general
>> Agoran expectation is that certain crime is pretty much constant and
>> usually no big deal (mainly slightly
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:43 AM Rebecca via agora-business
wrote:
>
> Blots are about to be significantly harder to remove, and the general
> Agoran expectation is that certain crime is pretty much constant and
> usually no big deal (mainly slightly late officer reports, perhaps things
> like
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:37 AM Rebecca via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 1:35 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
> agora-discussion wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:02 AM nch via agora-discussion
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thursday, June 4, 2020 12:41:14 AM CDT
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 1:35 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
agora-discussion wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:02 AM nch via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> >
> > On Thursday, June 4, 2020 12:41:14 AM CDT Aris Merchant via
> agora-business
> > wrote:
> > > I submit the following proposal.
>
On Thursday, June 4, 2020 10:34:29 AM CDT you wrote:
> Could you elaborate on this? As I see it, there would be no reason for
> more CFJs to occur under this rule.
How is "primary function" determined? Is G's complete rewrite of the auction
rule primarily a bug fix?
--
nch
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:02 AM nch via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Thursday, June 4, 2020 12:41:14 AM CDT Aris Merchant via agora-business
> wrote:
> > I submit the following proposal.
> >
> > -Aris
> > ---
> > Title: Certifiable Patches
> > Adoption index: 1.0
> > Author: Aris
> >
On 6/4/2020 12:20 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
>> And besides, we already criminalize intent. We do that by making it illegal
>> to intentionally lie to mislead.
>
> That doesn't help much, because that one was also in large part my fault.
I like the reform direction R. Lee
On Thursday, 4 June 2020, 16:06:12 GMT+1, nch wrote:
> I've noticed this dichotomy too. I was originally planning to award a victory
> card to the person with highest honor every week but I got the impression some
> people would be against gamifying honor so I backed down on it.
Honour only
On Thursday, June 4, 2020 9:18:52 AM CDT Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
> [
> As a side note, I've noticed recently there's a bit of divergence about
> how people treat the importance of Notices of Honour. I've mostly thought
> of NoHs as "expressing mild annoyance" rather than anything
On 6/4/2020 3:20 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:14 AM Rebecca via agora-discussion
wrote:
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 4:24 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 11:11 PM Kerim Aydin via
On Thursday, June 4, 2020 12:41:14 AM CDT Aris Merchant via agora-business
wrote:
> I submit the following proposal.
>
> -Aris
> ---
> Title: Certifiable Patches
> Adoption index: 1.0
> Author: Aris
> Co-author(s):
>
>
> Enact a new power 1.0 rule, entitled "Certifiable Patches", with the
>
On 6/3/2020 11:23 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 11:11 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 6/3/2020 11:00 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
>>> A player SHALL NOT cast a ballot or induce another person to do so in a
>>> way primarily intended to
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 4:48 AM Rebecca via agora-business
wrote:
>
> I create this proposal
>
> Title: This is not unlike defamation law
> AI 1
> Chamber: Justice
> Text: Amend rule 2471 "No Faking" so that it states
> A person SHALL NOT make a public statement that (1) is a statement of pure
>
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:13 AM Rebecca via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 4:24 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 11:11 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/3/2020 11:00 PM,
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:01 AM Aris Merchant via agora-business
wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 9:19 PM Aris Merchant
> wrote:
> > Title: Properly Prioritized Popular Proposal Proposer Privilege
> > Title: Referenda
> I retract these proposals.
>
> I submit the following proposals.
>
> -Aris
>
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:14 AM Rebecca via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 4:24 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 11:11 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/3/2020 11:00
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 4:24 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 11:11 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 6/3/2020 11:00 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> > > A player SHALL NOT cast a ballot or
On 6/3/2020 10:36 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 10:04 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>
>> On 6/3/2020 9:19 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 1:03 PM Aris Merchant wrote:
>>
>>> proposal when resolving it. Players SHOULD NOT attempt to game
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 10:36 PM Aris Merchant
wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 10:04 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 6/3/2020 9:19 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 1:03 PM Aris Merchant wrote:
> > >>
> >
> > > proposal when
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