DIS: Re: BUS: better safe...

2014-01-14 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I don't believe I need to, but (esp. if I'm going to try to do more officer's duties and don't want to recalculate everything), better be safe. By this message, I indicate reasonably clearly and reasonably

Re: DIS: Is this working?

2013-12-13 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: We are all here. Personally, I was planning on trying to kickstart things (a 3rd time!) any day now. For like a month :(. Me too, except I'm not sure if the Registar has an obligation to deregister me on sight, so

DIS: Re: BUS: Activity

2013-10-18 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 12:40 AM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: I intend, without objection, to make Wooble inactive. Good luck with that. -- Wooble

Re: DIS: [Ambassador-at-Large] Note on nommit

2013-08-14 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: Agora has never been invaded that I'm aware of, My first registration was part of a very ineffective invasion (from Nomicapolis, IIRC). -- Wooble

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: publicity

2013-08-06 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote: I intend to deputise for the Rulekeepor to publish the Full Logical Ruleset, which is shamefully overdue. Can't you just go ahead and Assume the office? Or does that rule not really exist. If the Switchy Hypothesis is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Possibly Registrar] Census

2013-08-06 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 4:32 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone please give me a counterargument to When created, switches have their default values == new switches have their default values? Rule 1586. http://www.mail-archive.com/agora-discussion@agoranomic.org/msg26317.html

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: May as well REALLY settle this

2013-08-05 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Jonathan Rouillard jonathan.rouill...@gmail.com wrote: Can one intent to deputize on an action that hasn't reached its time limit yet? I know I've been slow (haven't been home in a while) and it's an unfortunate time to be slow, but as far as I know I haven't

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: publicity

2013-08-01 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:45 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Geoffrey Spear woo...@nomictools.com wrote: Wooble, your alternate-reality Registrar. This is for the Switchy interpretation, not simply ratification failing, right? Yes, although honestly

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Short Logical Ruleset

2013-02-26 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:54 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 10:53 PM, woggle woggl...@gmail.com wrote: THE SHORT LOGICAL RULESET It would be nice if this document contained a link to the online FLR... which apparently I never did. Oops. I thought I started doing

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Intents

2013-01-24 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Charles Reiss woggl...@gmail.com wrote: I believe FKA441344 was already made inactive by omd around 18 Dec 2012. - woggle You're correct; I was going off the last Registrar's report, which, since e published it emself, obviously didn't include his own

DIS: Re: BUS: It happens eventually

2012-03-01 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:05 AM, FSX flameshadowxeros...@gmail.com wrote: If a first-class player is no longer a person, they are automatically deregistered as soon as the Deputy Registrar is aware that e is no longer a person. I endorse any rule change creating platonic gamestate based on

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: It happens eventually

2012-03-01 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:38 AM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 2012-03-01 at 08:12 -0500, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:05 AM, FSX flameshadowxeros...@gmail.com wrote: If a first-class player is no longer a person, they are automatically deregistered

DIS: Re: BUS: Fret, ye police

2012-02-02 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:08 AM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: I taunt ais523, specifying the police. ATEOISIDTIDWHPAFALT! -- Wooble

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: deactivations

2012-01-27 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Arkady English arkadyenglish+ag...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 January 2012 18:55, Geoffrey Spear woo...@nomictools.com wrote: For each of the following players, I intend, without objection, to deactivate em: Arkady Benu pikhq Roujo Walker Wooble -- Wooble

DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2012-01-26 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:02 AM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Arkady          arkadyenglish+ag...@gmail.com  18 Jul 11 ais523          callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk   20 Mar 11 Benu            schrodingers.kat...@gmail.com   7 Aug 11 davidcjackman   davidcjack...@gmail.com         2

DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Election update

2011-10-21 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Promotor:  * Voting hereby begins      - Candidates are scshunt and Wooble (Arkady English's attempted          attempted acceptance was NttPF)      - Each active first-class player has one vote  * Office remains held

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: HELP! (Call to Arms)

2011-10-21 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: You cannot just accuse someone of violating the rules based on a whimsical umbrella statement without an actual concrete violation. You CAN; it's possible that you SHALL NOT (although I think the Libel rule

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Writ of FAGE

2011-09-02 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Walker wrote (quoting Wooble): and WHEREAS I'm unable to perform my official duties as Rulekeepor in a reasonable fashion because of the size limitations placed upon this lists by said non-player Taral, can you adjust

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7111 - 7118

2011-08-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 1:21 AM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: *7111  1.0  Tanner L.   Points for the Big Guy *7115  1.0  Tanner L.   Relax

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7111 - 7118

2011-08-20 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: Also, if I'm not mistaken, Proposals 7111 and 7115 do exist and were distributed; the Deputy Promotor implicitly submitted them by distributing them. So. CoE: the author of Proposals 7111 and 7115 was actually Deputy

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Second try on the long-term ambassador proposal

2011-08-18 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: It really wouldn't make any difference what rule we pass here, it would be all up to their ruleset/interpretations of their own records. Except, of course, from Agora's point of view, where the CAN in the proposal would

DIS: Re: BUS: Second try on the long-term ambassador proposal

2011-08-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote:    The Ambassador generally CAN act on behalf of Agora to cause    it to register and take actions in foreign nomics. This is useless unless the other nomic recognizes the Agoran ruleset as a valid way to grant a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Impossible job is impossible

2011-08-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't the ordinary-language definitions of affairs of state (of Agora) and ambassador mean anything? When a rule says that something completely undefined (Agora playing another nomic) is to happen, and

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3085 assigned to Murphy

2011-08-09 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Arkady English arkadyenglish+ag...@gmail.com wrote: Does Agora have any jurisdiction over a laptop repair shop? Define jurisdiction. Can we impose any penalty that they're likely to take seriously? Probably not. Can we impose penalties that *we* pretend to take

DIS: Re: BUS: rebirth

2011-07-29 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Arkady English arkadyenglish+ag...@gmail.com wrote: Wooble is not already a player therefore we can ignore that second half This is true if and only if switches have their default value when they are created doesn't mean that when a switch is created it has its

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: further muddying the waters

2011-07-29 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Benjamin Schultz ben.dov.schu...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I deregister. I register. --Wooble Waiting on the current SLR... but back when I was playing, there used to be a mandatory

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: further muddying the waters

2011-07-29 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: You can get the SLR and the FLR at agora.qoid.us The ones at http://www.nomictools.com/agora/rules/ are actually up to date, but probably less likely to remain that way once comex actually updates with last week's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: further muddying the waters

2011-07-29 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:56 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, you still maintain that? I only actually did anything for the last 2 distributions, because I wanted to be reading the current rules since I wasn't paying attention while I was deregistered. For 3 months before now, no, I

DIS: Re: BUS: Former player waving hi, and a protectorate

2011-07-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Benjamin Schultz ben.dov.schu...@gmail.com wrote: I also had the idea to make the message board nomic an Agoran Protectorate.  I see that the current FLR no longer includes Protectorates. We just brought back the Ambassador office; Protectorates can't be far

DIS: Re: BUS: Former player waving hi, and a protectorate

2011-07-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Benjamin Schultz ben.dov.schu...@gmail.com wrote: A message board I'm on started a nomic game today. No it didn't, it started a calvinball game; a game with a rule explicitly saying the rules can't be changed and a metarule saying they can isn't a nomic. :P

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Former player waving hi, and a protectorate

2011-07-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 17:08, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Benjamin Schultz ben.dov.schu...@gmail.com wrote: A message board I'm on started a nomic game today

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Surely this has been tried before, but I can't see a reason for it not to work.

2011-07-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Eric Stucky turiski.no...@gmail.com wrote: But R689, why is the first-class distinction made? Is there some good reason it's not A player who is not a person and has never been a person? It's to prevent us from deregistering people while they're sleeping and

DIS: Re: BUS: Lullz

2011-07-19 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:01 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:16 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 20:11 -0500, Pavitra wrote: I intend, with Agoran Consent, to flip the Speed to Fast. I object. I weakly support. I intend, with

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A modest proposal

2011-07-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 6 Jul 2011, Sean Hunt wrote: Award B Nomic the Patent Title Imaginationland Official pedantry:  Not a person. Proto: first create a rule making B Nomic a third-class person.

DIS: Re: BUS: A modest proposal

2011-07-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote:      WHEREAS B Nomic, a well-played Nomic, did claim to pass a      proposal directing a player to end the game, Your definition of well-played may be off a bit; that was a particularly bad piece of gameplay.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A modest proposal

2011-07-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: On 7 July 2011 06:16, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote:      WHEREAS B Nomic was in fact recently discovered to have been      locked in perpetual Emergency since 2002, such that its game can      

Re: DIS: This message may not have been sent by

2011-07-01 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Charles Reiss woggl...@gmail.com wrote: I think the problem is that the agora mailing lists are passing through DKIM signatures but changing the subject line (which is typically signed in a DKIM signature).

Re: DIS: Question about CFJs.

2011-06-30 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: On 30 June 2011 23:50, Joshua Murphy math...@ymail.com wrote: People refer to some CFJs like they were rules, but they aren't really rules. If there isn't any particular reason for this, can we make them

Re: DIS: This message may not have been sent by

2011-06-29 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 4:54 AM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Are any other Gmail users getting an annoying This message may not have been sent by: at the top of all of their own messages to the lists? Does this mean that Walker's claims of identity in messages for the next

DIS: Re: BUS: Happy birthday, Agora!

2011-06-29 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: I award myself a Magenta Ribbon. I play GGAGCB GGAGDC GGGECBA FFECDC.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: We need more patent titles

2011-06-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 June 2011 07:45, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: (As you might guess, this is a Spelunking entry.) CoE: I don't think it is. The proposal does not attempt to amend or repeal any goals, it isn't a

DIS: Re: BUS: New lurker, and odd markup

2011-06-24 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Arkady English arkadyenglish+ag...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Agorans: I'd like to say Hi! and announce my intent to lurk/spy on the game for a bit, until I get a feel for what it's like here, at which point I will consider joining as a player. While I do: can

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3037 assigned to Walker

2011-06-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote:      A first-class person CAN register by sending a public message. No more CFJs by non-players?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Deregistrations

2011-06-21 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: On 21 June 2011 18:20, Pavitra celestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. I'm aware; I'm questioning the value of a player being able to object to their own deregistration due to long inactivity without

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: hrm

2011-06-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:36 PM, woggle woggl...@gmail.com wrote: [This time from my subscribed e-mail.] On 6/3/11 11:10 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: On 06/03/11 10:47, Charles Walker wrote: What else does a proposal do when it takes effect? Turn into a monkey? It does whatever the rules say which,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7046, 7059-7073

2011-06-02 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: Honestly, I feel like it should trigger whenever there's no way to change the blah blah blah /that most players know of/. How pragmatic.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: huh

2011-05-18 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Gratuitous:  Because, in ordinary language, support and objection are mutually exclusive unless qualified (e.g. I support sending troops to Guilder but I object to having them shoot first). Ordinary language is

DIS: Re: BUS: Tsáʼásziʼ bideeʼí

2011-05-18 Thread Geoffrey Spear
2011/5/18 Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu: Tsáʼásziʼ bideeʼí éí Naakaii Bikéyah dóó Shádiʼááhjí W.B.A.di hólǫ́; bineestʼąʼ éí adeeʼ nahalin. Díí tsáʼásziʼ éí bitʼąąʼ 10–40 inch áníłnéez łeh. Nidaʼałkááhí éí Yucca baccata deiłnígo dayózhí. Google Translate thinks this is Basque, which

DIS: Re: BUS: Fwd: Your message to agora-official awaits moderator approval

2011-05-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:20 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it still is that big. :) Good thing we voted agora-public out of existence, then.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: nope nope nope

2011-05-15 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2011, Ed Murphy wrote: Bucky wrote: Gratuitous Arguments: The precedent from CfJ 2884 that non-registered people may register by announcement (in addition to the normal method) is relevant to this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Newbie

2011-04-20 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Eric Stucky turiski.no...@gmail.com wrote: On a related note, is there anything I can do to help with that terribad formatting? Or is that just a problem on my end? Turn off Rich formatting in Gmail.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Codify tradition

2011-04-15 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 3:14 AM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: AGAINST, I think; we don't have a note for every little tradition in the relevant rules. (Maybe we should, but I'd prefer a package deal.) The FLR should be annotated with all of the registration CFJs, but that

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2011-04-14 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Florw             flo...@gmail.com               13 Apr 11 There is a CFJ on Florw's playership as well.  This needs a Q after it. It really

Re: DIS: Shall we play a game?

2011-04-14 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com wrote: I certainly haven't been around for a while, but I believe it could be fun to reserect a card subgame.  I'd love to take a quick straw poll to see if anyone else would be intersted in such an experience. diaf.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: hrmph

2011-04-14 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 3:49 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I'm annoyed at the FLR's lack of CFJ annotations. I nominate myself as Rulekeepor. I intend to deputize for the Rulekeepor to publish the FLR. Campaign

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2011-04-13 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: On 13 April 2011 06:20, Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com wrote: Is there really enough ambiguity here for this CFJ to be warranted? It seems more valid than most of my attempts. It's not *my* fault if someone

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 7012

2011-04-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: Otherwise, there will be mass confusion when someone tries to become active and can't! I'm not worried about confusion, although a scam making everyone inactive and making it impossible to become active is worrying,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Winnar

2011-04-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 1:04 AM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On 11-04-11 12:38 AM, Elliott Hird wrote: On 10 April 2011 23:52, Sean Huntscsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca  wrote: I CFJ { If a player were to win the game, the game would end. } Arguments: Winning is not currently

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2011-04-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:36 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 April 2011 22:31, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: Registrar's Census FIRST-CLASS PLAYERS (15) CoE: omd/comex/c. is not listed

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Criminals don't get opinions

2011-04-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: Are we sure this isn't just a muddled-up misunderstanding? I don't know Yally as a malicious person, and this seems rather excessively spiteful. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Aaron Goldfein

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Exile

2011-04-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Yally wrote: Perhaps you should say When a judgement of EXILE has been in effect CONTINOUSLY for one week, to avoid the situation where a judgement is in effect for 4 days, is reconsidered, is in effect for 4

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6978-6995

2011-04-05 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: I don't think they would be much more coherent if that hadn't happened. I agree, although I'm working on a fix.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Intentions and NoVs

2011-03-29 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Which is fine; Contested NoVs are considered on hold unless someone raises another court case about them. ...and uncontested NoVs do nothing at all at the moment.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2979 Wooble, omd, G. request reconsideration; still assigned to Wooble

2011-03-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: On 23 March 2011 13:26, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: There's no compelling reason to consider the actions in the message as not occurring simultaneously at the instant it was published

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2011-03-20 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Wooble wrote: CoE: Date of this report: Sat 19 Mar 2011 Was published on 20 Mar. Not in eir time zone. R1023.

Re: DIS: Class-N

2011-03-20 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 5:19 AM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Would I be right in saying that the class of a crime no longer has any effect on the ninny (i.e. that they no longer receive a worse punishment for a greater class of crime)? The judge might take the class of the

DIS: Re: BUS: Playerhood

2011-03-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: CFJ:  Tanner Swett is a player. Barred:  Tanner Swett Trivially TRUE. Eir playerhood as of 9 days ago self-ratified.

Re: DIS: Re: [s-b] test

2011-03-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: On 13 March 2011 11:42, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Just testing Gmail filters. Due to the To files, you've managed to send one message but have N appear in both my Agora and B Nomic

Re: DIS: Nomic Wiki

2011-03-15 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Is everyone else getting an error when trying to access Nomic Wiki? http://www.nomic.net/~nomicwiki/index.php/Agora -- Charles Walker You probably want to let Joel know; he was doing some work on the server

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Presidential Elections

2011-03-08 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: When I wrote this I was trying to decide if the President being an officeholder was an easter egg or bug... The Speaker being able to cause em to publish a cantus cygneus is almost certainly a bug, but I don't want to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: blah

2011-03-04 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: I'm pretty sure it isn't.  In the absence of anyone pointing out any errors in my unofficial this is where I think we are message, I'll likely catch up on the rest of it tomorrow morning (I suspect 52CP will require one

DIS: Re: BUS: blah

2011-03-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I deputize for the Assessor to publish the following: Disclaimer: I have no idea whatsoever if the office of the Assessor is actually vacant; this may have failed.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [assumed promotor] distribution of proposals 6960-6961

2011-02-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com wrote: proto-proto: { Acorns are a currency. When a first-class  player registers five acorns are created in eir possession. When a player wins the game three acorns are created in eir possession. A player CAN destroy 2 acorns

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [assumed promotor] distribution of proposals 6960-6961

2011-02-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: And if this repeal passes, can we choose a name other than Ordinary finally as that will be gone from the ruleset? Plain? Boring? Beige? Democratic is the boring one.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [assumed promotor] distribution of proposals 6960-6961

2011-02-15 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Kerim Aydin wrote:  6960 O 1 3.0 G.                  Fix Proposal Power I announce my intent to make proposal 6960 democratic, with 2 support.  6961 O 1 3.0 G.                  52-pickup v2 I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [assumed promotor] distribution of proposals 6960-6961

2011-02-15 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Kerim Aydin wrote:  6960 O 1 3.0 G.                  Fix Proposal

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [assumed promotor] distribution of proposals 6960-6961

2011-02-15 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Did something happen to R2142? It was repealed on January 2.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Another option

2011-02-15 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 1:06 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: Proposal: Another option (AI=3, Distributable via fee) Create a new Power-3.5 Rule titled Emergency Management (ID=0):      Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, it is possible for rule      changes to occur simultaneously.    

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: well then...

2011-02-14 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On 11-02-13 11:08 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: Create a power-2 Rule entitled The President:       The President is a second-class person and a player.  A       first-class player CAN cause the President to take an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: well then...

2011-02-14 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Mon, 14 Feb 2011, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On 11-02-13 11:08 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: Create a power-2 Rule entitled The President

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Hello

2011-02-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:49 AM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Gratuitous:  Rule 2226 defines judicial rank as a player switch.  Rule 2162 says No other entity possesses an instance of that switch.  If you deregistered, then you became an other entity and thus ceased to possess an

DIS: Re: BUS: Hello

2011-02-01 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:15 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:00 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: Guess what I intend to do at this time? Incidentally, I was planning to have a script send this message at 00:00:00, but failed due to a typo. The Pariah-Registrar's

Re: DIS: Past-Proto-Contract: Router (for discussion only)

2011-01-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: Proto: Add the formal semantics of a real programming language to the ruleset. Proto: bring back Perlnomic.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: scorched earth escalation

2011-01-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: 2.  At least one absolute ruler is a *byword* for fair resolution (Solomon). The proof of the pudding... Or maybe it's exceptio probat regulam. Fallacies are fun.

DIS: Re: BUS: scorched earth escalation

2011-01-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Murphy and I are now the only players CoE: comex and I are the only players of Agora Nomic, and this message was not the public forum.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Popular uprising

2011-01-19 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: By the way, I'm pretty sure that the language as is doesn't give me a Junta unless I make other gamestate changes (don't know if that was by design or accidental).  Does anyone think I *do* currently satisfy a Junta

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6944 - 6947

2011-01-18 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:37 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: R2125 uses the phrase as allowed by the rules.  Where permitted by other rules might be slightly different when multiple rules are in conflict (not sure), but I doubt it differs in the level of required explicitness.  So any

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Office stabilization + 1 election

2011-01-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Wooble wrote: In the election for CotC, there is only one valid option, Murphy.  The office becomes Postulated if for some reason it wasn't (e claimed to assume it a while ago, but I can't find any message purporting to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6302 - 6323

2011-01-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:54 AM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: tl;dr:  the alleged-NoV quoted by Wooble was ineffective, thus eir alleged-closing of it was also ineffective. I should learn not to listen to comex.

DIS: My reports on the web

2011-01-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
I put some of my reports on the web. These ones are generated entirely from the web app, and are thus are at any moment are as up-to-date as I'm able to keep them: http://www.nomictools.com/agora/iadop/text http://www.nomictools.com/agora/proposals/pool The rulesets are maintained offline, but

Re: DIS: My reports on the web

2011-01-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
No, although I'm sure some psychotic person could tell you how to get from an hg repo to an evil RCS one. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:49 PM, com...@gmail.com wrote: No ,v? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I put some of my reports

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6944-6947

2011-01-09 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Proposal:  Moving targets are hard (AI = 2, II = 1, distributable via fee) Amend Rule 2156 (Voting on Ordinary Decisions) by replacing resolution with end of the voting period. against; gives the Assessor way too much

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Rebellion results

2011-01-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:30 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 19:22 -0500, Geoffrey Spear wrote: I deputize for the Herald to award ais523 the patent title Champion (by Leadership). I thought you were the Herald? Is it possible to deputize for your own

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fix Grand Vizier

2011-01-06 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On 11-01-05 06:56 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: The rule doesn't specify that the Assessor can resign. I fail to see any interpretation of      Position: The Grand Vizier CAN perform any action that an      officer

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Weekly Heraldry

2011-01-05 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:58 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I attempt (modulo possible Holiday weirdness) to bestow favours as possible: I'm treating this as effective; in my reading, the R1769 other event is the beginning of the Gregorian month of January, and the future(-ish;

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fix Grand Vizier

2011-01-05 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: Proposal: Fix Grand Vizier (AI = 2, II = 1, distributable via fee) AGAINST, it's the most interesting position, and e is *supposed* to be powerful. But being able to arbitrarily resign any office is just too much.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fix Grand Vizier

2011-01-05 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:21 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: But being able to arbitrarily resign any office is just too much. I agree, although I don't think that actually worked anyway. Yes, it does, as ais523

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fix Grand Vizier

2011-01-05 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:02 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:21 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: But being able

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fix Grand Vizier

2011-01-05 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: But this still doesn't get around the issue of that Grand Vizier being able to resign any office, among others. Fixing the definition of resigning is probably better than getting rid of the Vizier.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2011-01-04 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 2:28 AM, Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 01:19, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: Registrar's Census Fri 04 Mar 00:00 BobTHJ becomes a Senator I thought Senator persisted through deregistration? Proto: When a player who was

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