DIS: [Webmastor] Homepage Update Shoutout

2020-07-18 Thread Nch via agora-discussion
The homepage (agoranomic.org) has received some internal updates today. Trigon took the initiative to figure out how to update the homepage to github's markdown and jekyll instead of pure html while keeping the classic two-column look. It doesn't look any different, but this will make the page

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8473-8476

2020-07-18 Thread Nch via agora-discussion
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:41 AM, nixnull+agora--- via agora-business wrote: > On Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:40:11 AM CDT nixnull+agora--- via agora- > discussion wrote: > > > (This is nch. I might be switching to this email address, playing around > > with

DIS: Re: BUS: Contract: A Rival Ship Appears

2020-07-13 Thread Nch via agora-discussion
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, July 13, 2020 5:02 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: > > I propose the following amendment to The Platonic Parrot: > > { > Replace the following text: > > "This contract may be amended by a Platonic Pirate with the consent of > 2/3rds (rounded up)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contract: A Rival Ship Appears

2020-07-13 Thread Nch via agora-discussion
Is there a preferred fix to this? Just adding a time period to it? Original Message On Jul 13, 2020, 3:44 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 7/13/20 4:25 PM, Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: >>> This contract may be amended by a Platonic Pirate with the consent

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8473-8476

2020-07-12 Thread Nch via agora-discussion
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, July 12, 2020 10:09 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > Scam, dunno details, nch is listed as conspirator, it involved Rule 2492? > 2017-06-28 Quazie +K Scam where I as Assessor manipulated the assessment order in order to give ais523 and

DIS: Re: BUS: Contract: A Rival Ship Appears

2020-07-12 Thread Nch via agora-discussion
I leave the Pirate Plundership. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, July 12, 2020 7:22 PM, Nch via agora-business wrote: > I consent to the following contract: > > { > > The Platonic Parrot > > A party to this contract is also known as a Platonic Pirate. Any player > who is not

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal, not pended] Regulated Welcomes

2020-07-06 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 7/6/20 1:32 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > "When a player receives a Welcome Package, e earns a set of assets > defined by the Treasuror's regulations. When the Treasuror's regulations > are silent, e earns 25 coins and one of each type of Card defined in the >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal, not pended] Warmer Welcomes

2020-07-06 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 7/6/20 1:01 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 7/6/20 2:00 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 7/6/20 12:54 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: >>> [This came from a discussion on Discord in which nch mentioned that the >>&

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal, not pended] Warmer Welcomes

2020-07-06 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 7/6/20 12:54 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: > [This came from a discussion on Discord in which nch mentioned that the > current 10 coin welcome packages really don't help that much. 25 may > still be on the low side, but I think it's a lot better. I added in the > last clause because I

Re: DIS: on negative karma (Re: BUS: Proposal: Upvotes)

2020-07-04 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 7/4/20 12:19 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 7/3/2020 4:32 PM, omd via agora-business wrote: >> - The ability to take away others' karma is removed. I didn't want to do >> this, >> since I think the 'balanced karma' system is a quite interesting >> mechanic. >> But

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration - Fred

2020-07-03 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 7/3/20 9:32 PM, Fred via agora-discussion wrote: > I have four midterms this coming week so I'll hold off this time around. > Thank you for the invite though! > > > Generally speaking, are tournaments a good way to get a feel for things? Tournaments are fairly rare events. This one is in

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: @Notary @Treasuror, I do the scam anyway

2020-07-03 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 7/3/20 4:20 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 7/3/20 5:14 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion > wrote: >> On 7/3/20 5:14 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >>> On 7/3/20 4:02 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >>>> O

Re: DIS: Re: [Treasuror] Reward Re: BUS: CFJ 3860 judged FALSE

2020-07-03 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 7/3/20 4:15 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > Signalling question: I've been interpreting [Treasusor] subject lines as > things that are strictly *from* the treasuror (as opposed to [attn. > Treasuror]). Is that the best way to distinguish - in particular are > officers

DIS: Re: BUS: @Notary @Treasuror, I do the scam anyway

2020-07-03 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 7/3/20 4:02 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 6/30/20 10:26 AM, Becca Lee via agora-business wrote: >> I COE the most recent proposal assessment: you missed a vote by G. in >> https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-June/043813.html > > Pursuant to

Re: DIS: Draft Judgement of CFJ 3860

2020-07-02 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 7/2/20 12:40 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > I have put together my judgement for CFJ 3860 [assuming that is the > number it will be assigned by the CotC]. I am mainly publishing this as > a draft and not an official judgement because I want to wait for > confirmation that it is

Re: DIS: art degrees

2020-07-02 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 7/2/20 10:14 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > One strange thing here is that Bard is mixed in with a long list of > other titles in R2581, but (from this point of view) is arguably more > similar to degrees than those other titles. > > Also, I recently noticed the description of

Re: DIS: Re: [Attn. Referee] Re: BUS: @Notary @Treasuror, I do the scam anyway

2020-07-02 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 7/2/20 4:21 AM, omd via agora-discussion wrote: > Arguments: > > at 12:43 AM, Becca Lee via agora-discussion > wrote: > >> I clearly meant that i transfer the cards nch had, "those cards" into >> products in 4 sets of 4. obviously i did not mean that 18 is 4x4. > Your rephrased version is

DIS: Re: [Attn. Referee] Re: BUS: @Notary @Treasuror, I do the scam anyway

2020-07-02 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 7/1/20 11:43 PM, omd via agora-business wrote: > at 7:26 AM, Becca Lee via agora-business > [](mailto:agora-busin...@agoranomic.org) > wrote: > >> {Acting on behalf of nch, I resolve one of eir intents to deregister R. >> Lee. I register. I award myself a welcome package. I transfer a victory

DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

2020-06-30 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/30/20 8:51 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > This is a notice of honour. > > -1 Jason for attempting to resolve the fix proposal too early, opening a > scam opportunity > > +1 nch for not taking advantage of that opportunity > > -- > Jason Cobb > This is a notice of honour. +1 Jason

DIS: Re: BUS: @Notary @Treasuror, I do the scam anyway

2020-06-30 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/30/20 9:26 AM, Becca Lee via agora-business wrote: > I COE the most recent proposal assessment: you missed a vote by G. in > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-June/043813.html > > That message, therefore making the assessment invalid. So the scam I've

DIS: [Proto, ATTN Referee] Competitive Finger Pointing

2020-06-30 Thread nch via agora-discussion
Here's a proper version of Competitive Finger Pointing. Title: Competitive Finger Pointing AI: 1.7 Author: nch Coauthors: Amend R2478, "Vigilante Justice" by adding after the list items:     Initiating a Finger Pointing found to be Shenanigans is the class     0+N crime of Shenaniganery,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8459-8472

2020-06-30 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/30/20 8:03 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/30/20 9:02 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/30/20 7:57 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion >> wrote: >>> On 6/30/20 8:52 AM, nch via agora-discussion wro

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8459-8472

2020-06-30 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/30/20 7:57 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/30/20 8:52 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/30/20 5:47 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business >> wrote: >>> AGAINST (I'd be supportive of this if it didn'

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8459-8472

2020-06-30 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/30/20 5:47 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > AGAINST (I'd be supportive of this if it didn't get rid of Certifiable > Patches) Is the 2+X support mechanism not a sufficient replacement? Why not? -- nch Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager

Re: DIS: [Notary] Informal Contract Awards

2020-06-29 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/29/20 12:11 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > For the Participation Award, given to the people who are members to the > most contracts: I would restrict this to people who are members of contracts with at least two members. Otherwise, I like the idea!

DIS: Re: OFF: [Notary] The Notes (weekly report)

2020-06-29 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/29/20 11:37 AM, ATMunn via agora-official wrote: > "Co Dependents" nch, R. Lee The text you have for this contract is wrong. It excludes the original text of the contract [0]. We appended two lines [1] and then removed one of those two [2]. [0]

Re: DIS: [Proto] Welcoming Back Outlaws

2020-06-29 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/29/20 1:46 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > Okay, I'm tired, and this is the best I can think of right now. This > would allow exiled players to be repeatedly exiled until they get down > to 9 blots, but give them welcome packages back afterward. Why 9? A > player with fewer

DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJ] Agoran Announcements

2020-06-28 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/28/20 9:28 PM, nch via agora-business wrote: > There was some debate and disagreement about this in the discord the > other night, so I think it's worth formally discussing. As a tangent, I don't think I could've formulated this CFJ this well without the previous discussion in discord. In

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Contract charities

2020-06-28 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/28/20 7:21 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 at 00:53, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via > agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/26/20 8:45 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote: >>>This SHOULD only be done if the >>>contract's provisions ensure

DIS: Re: BUS: Contract: SNOCS (Simple, No-Opportunity-Cost Sets)

2020-06-28 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/28/20 7:07 PM, omd via agora-business wrote: > Any player CAN join the contract by announcement; any party CAN leave the > contract by announcement. Any party CAN remove another party from the > contract > without objection. Each party consents to the aforementioned membership > changes.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Interested Proposals

2020-06-28 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/23/20 7:33 PM, nch via agora-business wrote: > On 6/23/20 7:32 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/23/20 7:29 PM, nch via agora-business wrote: >>> I ditched the idea of Ready Proposals for something more similar to the >>> old disinterested proposals

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Put the discord on the agora home page

2020-06-28 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/28/20 3:27 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: > Falsifian wrote: > >>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 1:12 PM Rebecca via agora-business < >>> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: >>> See title Also all should join it, it has been a fun and very active atmosphere,

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Decriminalization

2020-06-28 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/28/20 2:54 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > Amend Rule 2626 (Certifiable Patches) by replacing "unless its sole > function is" with "unless e reasonably believes its sole function is". > > [In addition to quibbles about "sole function", this also covers cases > like "I thought X

DIS: Scam Wrap-Up

2020-06-27 Thread nch via agora-discussion
To make this more clear, the finding of CFJ3858 basically kills R. Lee and I's scam. It finds that notices are delayed by withdrawing objections, so the opposition would've just had to take turns withdrawing objections to delay us by several days until the patch (or motion for no confidence)

DIS: Re: BUS: Honor among Pirates [Attn. All "Pirates"]

2020-06-27 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/16/20 3:17 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote: > I could have just let this pass and banked some MAJOR coinage but the > long-term consequences of having people be paranoid about my contracts > isn't worth it imo, I much prefer to have people's trust that I won't > betray them on

Re: Nomic 217 Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3851 judged TRUE

2020-06-27 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/27/20 4:43 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/27/20 12:10 AM, omd via agora-discussion wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 6:12 PM James Cook via agora-discussion >> wrote: >>> I've thought it would be interesting to play a Nomic that starts with >>> just

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Talismans Auction Patch

2020-06-26 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 11:39 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > For simplicity, would it be possible for the Registrar to adopt > regulations defering to the Treasuror's regulations? I think so. I don't see any reason a Regulation couldn't simply say "Auctions are run as

Re: DIS: [proto] Regulatory Instruments draft

2020-06-26 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 6:40 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > Title: Regulatory Instruments v2 > Author: Jason > Coauthors: Aris > Adoption index: 3.0 Reading this it seems mechanically sound. However I kind of agree with G. Were there any specific deficits with the current regulation system

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Contract charities

2020-06-26 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/26/20 7:45 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote: >> oh, duh. everyone's been going back and forth so much with ideas and >> drafts I wasn't thinking of ownership at all. go for it! > I submit a proposal as follows. (But I do not pend it just yet.) > > Title: Contract charities >

Re: DIS: Re: [Indictment] Re: BUS: actually fuck it

2020-06-26 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/26/20 7:50 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/26/20 8:38 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business > wrote: >> Here is the list of proposals that I believe were pended in this way — >> some may be missing, and I considered the possibility that the finger >>

Re: DIS: Re: Pledge re BUS: Statement from the Opposition

2020-06-26 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/26/20 10:52 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/26/20 11:42 PM, Ed Strange via agora-business wrote: >> I pledge to abandin any attrmpt to do this scam if you give ME a win via >> free tournament > > Interesting idea, but I think we'll have to wait to find out how the CFJ > is

DIS: Re: [Indictment] Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

2020-06-26 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/26/20 11:10 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > I plead guilty, but I really do think that 4 blots is too high a penalty > for what I did. I wrote a patch for a bug that was possibly exploitable > in the future, but I certified it under what I think was a plausible > reading of the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Statement from the Opposition

2020-06-25 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 3:33 PM, omd via agora-discussion wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:12 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business > wrote: >> Free Tournaments require only 2 Agoran consent to initiate, while >> Emergency Regulations require 3, so the easiest option is a Free >> Tournament that automatically

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Statement from the Opposition

2020-06-25 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 2:35 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:16 PM nch via agora-discussion > <mailto:agora-discussion@agoranomic.org>> wrote: > > On 6/25/20 2:11 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > Free Tournaments require only 2

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Statement from the Opposition

2020-06-25 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 2:18 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/25/20 2:11 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> It is no secret that we wish to prevent the exile scam from working, >> granting three players wins and resetting our economy. > Also, our side has already proposed a

DIS: Re: BUS: Statement from the Opposition

2020-06-25 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 2:11 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > It is no secret that we wish to prevent the exile scam from working, > granting three players wins and resetting our economy. Also, our side has already proposed and supported a way to avoid resetting the economy when the win goes

DIS: Re: BUS: Statement from the Opposition

2020-06-25 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 2:11 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > Free Tournaments require only 2 Agoran consent to initiate, while > Emergency Regulations require 3, so the easiest option is a Free > Tournament that automatically grants a certain person the win. However, > this intent is also vetoable

Re: [Attn. R. Lee] Re: DIS: [Reportor] Last Week in Agora

2020-06-25 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 10:43 AM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > The Discord invite link no longer works. It probably expired; Discord > invites expire after a week or 3 days or something by default. > > On 6/24/2020 11:20 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: >> https://discord.gg/UGxm3v --- Agora

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: general objection

2020-06-25 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/24/20 9:51 PM, omd via agora-discussion wrote: > > >> On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:55 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business >> wrote: >> >> >> I object to any and all intents to declare apathy. > But does this adequately identify the intents being objected to? > > (I think there might have been a CFJ

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Interested Proposals

2020-06-23 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/23/20 7:29 PM, nch via agora-business wrote: > I ditched the idea of Ready Proposals for something more similar to the > old disinterested proposals system. The way this works is by calling > proposals pended with pendants "sponsored" proposals, and making that a > condition of getting the LC

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE

2020-06-23 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/23/20 6:20 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 7:10 PM nch via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 6/23/20 5:38 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote: >>> On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 14:04, Jason Cobb v

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE

2020-06-23 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/23/20 5:38 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 14:04, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion > wrote: >> On 6/23/20 10:03 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >>> The PM doesn't have increased voting strength. And I've already pledged >>

Re: DIS: Re: [CFJ] Re: BUS: Vote on P8442

2020-06-23 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/23/20 3:57 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > Imagine, for a second, that you're a detective and you hear a man in > another room say "I stole the painting!". You might whisper to your > assistant "he's confessed that he's the thief!". Now imagine that your > assistant told you

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [NoH] Unspecified Honour

2020-06-23 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/23/20 3:21 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 1:16 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 6/23/20 4:13 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: >>> I publish the following Notice of Honour: >>> +1 Agora

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Regardless of the Scam Result

2020-06-23 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/23/20 1:59 PM, omd via agora-business wrote: > I submit, but do not (as I think I cannot) pend, the following proposal: You ought to have a Pending Card which you could pay to make a pendant if you so choose. -- nch Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager

Re: DIS: Regardless of the Scam Result

2020-06-23 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/23/20 12:16 PM, Alex Smith via agora-discussion wrote: > For what it's worth, I think that "manually" skunking this scam by proposal > would be a reasonable way to resolve the circumstance; I doubt either the > scamsters, nor the other players, would have a problem with the resulting >

Re: DIS: Regardless of the Scam Result

2020-06-23 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/23/20 10:06 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > ok. I'll go ahead and plan for a week for something that's so uncertain > that I might as well just wait it out. no, not gonna. That's my personal > attitude and like it or not, somewhere in Economics 101 is the fact that > uncertainty suppresses

Re: DIS: Regardless of the Scam Result

2020-06-23 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/23/20 9:53 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 6/23/2020 7:49 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> This scam doesn't actually grind out economy to a hault, or at least it >> doesn't have to. When someone wins by victory points, cards and products >> ge

Re: DIS: Regardless of the Scam Result

2020-06-23 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/23/20 9:56 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > I just noticed something about Rule 2624: After a reset, officers can't > grant new cards if they had done so in the same month but prior to the > reset. Is this by design? No, unintended/expected. I just didn't

DIS: Regardless of the Scam Result

2020-06-23 Thread nch via agora-discussion
This scam doesn't actually grind out economy to a hault, or at least it doesn't have to. When someone wins by victory points, cards and products get reset but coins, blots, and assets created by contracts don't. That means there should still be incentive to buy/sell/trade. If it looks like the

DIS: Re: BUS: certifying

2020-06-23 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/23/20 8:49 AM, nch via agora-business wrote: > I CFJ: Welcome Package Patch's sole function is not to minimally rectify > a bug. > > Arguments: It does rectify a bug (although, again, it introduces a new > one). But it was forced through to prevent a scam. R2626 says "A player > SHALL NOT

Re: DIS: Reminder: nch didn't like scams of new systems, ... until e did

2020-06-23 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/23/20 9:13 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > I'm aware; in fact, I was planning to do this scam. Nevertheless, this > isn't "play[ing] the games we design for a bit first". Look, I'm 100% for you stopping the scam. If the opposition stops it that's fair

Re: DIS: Reminder: nch didn't like scams of new systems, ... until e did

2020-06-23 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/23/20 9:10 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/10/20 3:06 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> I actually meant that out of mild frustration. Sets hasn't started and >> we're about to pass a gameplay tweak meant to 'fix' something that'

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE

2020-06-23 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/23/20 9:08 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/23/20 10:07 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> You're right, I missed that last night. Still a poor reason to uninstall >> a recently elected official I think, I'm not abusing the offi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE

2020-06-23 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/23/20 9:04 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > And if Jason does that, I'll oppose it, but right now you are PM. PM > does have increased voting strength as a result of office interests. You're right, I missed that last night. Still a poor reason to uninstall

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE

2020-06-23 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/23/20 9:00 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/23/20 9:50 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/23/20 5:22 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business >> wrote: >>> On 6/22/20 10:51 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-busin

DIS: Re: BUS: certifying

2020-06-23 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/23/20 8:58 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > What I mean to say is that, to my mind, closing a loophole that allows a > scam clearly against the intent of the rules is a strict subset of > rectifying a bug. If it was closing the loophole when there's no scam pending I'd agree.

DIS: Re: BUS: MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE

2020-06-23 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/23/20 5:22 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > On 6/22/20 10:51 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> I intend, with Agoran consent, to cause the office of Prime Minister to >> become vacant. >> > I support. > > -- > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus,

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8458

2020-06-22 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/22/20 10:03 PM, nch via agora-business wrote: > On 6/22/20 9:39 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote: >> ID Author(s)AITitle >> --- >> 8458e Aris 1.0 Welcome Package

DIS: Re: BUS: MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE

2020-06-22 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/22/20 9:51 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > I intend, with Agoran consent, to cause the office of Prime Minister to > become vacant. > > -- > Jason Cobb > Also for the record, Jason et al is trying to do this to seize PM and Speaker. R. Lee and I's scam doesn't use PM power and

DIS: Re: BUS: MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE

2020-06-22 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/22/20 10:05 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 02:51, Jason Cobb via agora-business > wrote: >> I intend, with Agoran consent, to cause the office of Prime Minister to >> become vacant. > I object. nch is demonstrating behaviour we should all aspire to as >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Anonymity Busting

2020-06-22 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/22/20 8:57 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/22/20 9:55 PM, Ed Strange via agora-business wrote: >> I create this following proposal (I also certify it, why not) >> >> Title: Fist of Law >> AI: 3 >> Create a power 3 rule with the text "Unless e has

Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Draft Forward Auction Regulation(s)

2020-06-22 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/22/20 6:38 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > * The auctioneer of a Forward Auction CAN and SHALL in a timely >fashion after the ending of that Forward Auction create a public >message that contains a full history of bids on the auction and >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Put the discord on the agora home page

2020-06-22 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/22/20 4:28 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: >> This is meant to give us back that ephemeral chat. And it already has, >> frankly. In the discord right now is 9 established players, 1 observer, >> and 1 new player. We've done a lot of collaboration on the github

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Put the discord on the agora home page

2020-06-22 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/22/20 3:55 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 at 20:53, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via > agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/22/20 4:06 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >>> On 6/22/20 3:00 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Put the discord on the agora home page

2020-06-22 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/22/20 3:00 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/22/20 3:50 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: >> I can do that without objection > I can save everyone time by saying that I will object. > > -- > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald,

[ATTN: Maintainers] Re: DIS: [Webmastor] Header Changes

2020-06-22 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/22/20 1:29 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > I intend to make two changes to the Header and one change to the > homepage repo. I don't anticipate either of them being controversial, > but I'm announcing this intent here just in case someone has significant > objections. >

DIS: [Webmastor] Header Changes

2020-06-22 Thread nch via agora-discussion
I intend to make two changes to the Header and one change to the homepage repo. I don't anticipate either of them being controversial, but I'm announcing this intent here just in case someone has significant objections. First, I want to change the header to: Agora | Rules | \Help/| \Offices/

Re: DIS: [Webmastor] Help pages now online.

2020-06-22 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/22/20 11:31 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/22/20 11:22 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/22/2020 9:14 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >>> There is now a section of the website with Help for new players. I plan >>> to keep this

Re: DIS: [Webmastor] Help pages now online.

2020-06-22 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/22/20 11:22 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 6/22/2020 9:14 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> There is now a section of the website with Help for new players. I plan >> to keep this as something the Webmastor unilaterally maintains since >> it's

DIS: [Webmastor] Help pages now online.

2020-06-22 Thread nch via agora-discussion
There is now a section of the website with Help for new players. I plan to keep this as something the Webmastor unilaterally maintains since it's supplemental, but would appreciate any feedback. https://agoranomic.org/Help/ -- nch Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager

Re: DIS: How to keep up

2020-06-21 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/21/20 10:25 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/21/20 10:16 PM, Zyborg Mao via agora-discussion wrote: >> I just signed up and already have 50+ messages. I'm not sure how to deal >> with this. Any hints/tips? > Read everything in agora-official, most things in agor

Re: DIS: How to keep up

2020-06-21 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/21/20 10:16 PM, Zyborg Mao via agora-discussion wrote: > I just signed up and already have 50+ messages. I'm not sure how to deal > with this. Any hints/tips? Read everything in agora-official, most things in agora-business (unless it's about a contract or something you're not involved in),

DIS: Re: BUS: [Contract] Agoran officer monetizes signature

2020-06-21 Thread nch via agora-discussion
I transfer 3 coins to SEAMSTRESS and specify the text "don't... trust... the dragon..." -- nch Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager

DIS: [Proto] Powerful Contracts

2020-06-21 Thread nch via agora-discussion
Powerful Contracts Power Target is a player switch tracked by the Notary with the potential values None (the default), and any Contract. A player CAN flip eir Power Target (empower) by announcement once a week. If their is a single contract that is the value of at least 5 Power Target switches

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3853 Judged True

2020-06-21 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/21/20 4:11 PM, nch via agora-business wrote: > On 6/20/20 9:37 AM, nch via agora-business wrote: >> ===  CFJ 3853 === >> >>  Within the past week, Jason committed the crime of Uncertain >>  Certification. >> >>

Re: [Poll] A chat client for Agora (was Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Leaving or something like that)

2020-06-21 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/21/20 3:00 PM, omd via agora-discussion wrote: > So we could set up a Discord community and then bridge it with IRC. > This can sometimes have awkward results [1], but from what I've heard > it basically works. I've been on discords that have IRC/Discord bridges, and they seem perfectly

DIS: Re: BUS: Action Is better than words

2020-06-21 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/20/20 8:47 PM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote: > Therefore, please join this discord server I made > https://discord.gg/UGxm3v > > Tell me what channels you want all up in there and stuff > -- > From R. Lee Just wanted to point out since this isn't obvious on the list: 6 of us joined

Re: DIS: A logo for Agora

2020-06-20 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/20/20 6:10 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > Due to a multitude of factors, I've noticed a lot of sentiment to "rebrand" > a bit. Along with this, I would like to raise the discussion of potentially > creating a new logo of sorts for Agora. The coat-of-arms has stood as our >

Re: DIS: Fora and Accessibility

2020-06-20 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/20/20 5:56 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > I do, however, think setting up a chat client for discussion that runs > alongside a-d would be useful for many things, such as private > discussion of alliances, bugfixing on proposals and contacts with more > immediate feedback, and, rather

Re: DIS: Fora and Accessibility

2020-06-20 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/20/20 5:47 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I think there are valid criticisms of how we use email, and we could adopt > guidelines to change that, but if we started to use Discord or anything other > than IRC or email for significant amounts of discussion, I think I’d leave >

Re: DIS: Fora and Accessibility

2020-06-20 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/20/20 5:23 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > Moving this here because multiple subtopics in one thread was explicitly > mentioned as an accessibility problem in the increasing off-topic > "Leaving..." thread. > > First, I want to simply ask: Do you use IRC,

DIS: Fora and Accessibility

2020-06-20 Thread nch via agora-discussion
Moving this here because multiple subtopics in one thread was explicitly mentioned as an accessibility problem in the increasing off-topic "Leaving..." thread. First, I want to simply ask: Do you use IRC, and how often? Do you use Discord, and how often? Reducing the chatter in a-d by moving

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Leaving or something like that

2020-06-20 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/20/20 5:07 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > Alternatively, we do have an IRC chat which is already an official > forum. Mayhaps if the Webmastor promoted this service, it could > encourage us to congregate there to answer new players' questions. > > -- > Trigon > > (I haven't figured out my

Archival Continuity and Discussion Accessibility (was Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Leaving or something like that)

2020-06-20 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/20/20 4:55 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 6/20/2020 2:46 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> To be clear, I'd never suggest moving gameplay to a chat client. Discord >> did not exist 27 years ago, and it's not that likely to exist in 27 >> year

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Leaving or something like that

2020-06-20 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/20/20 4:42 PM, Stefan Fjellander wrote: > I happen to run an somewhat nomiclike conlang discord server, where we > have a few channels corresponding to agora discussion, which are just > as any else, and then in the channels corresponding to agora business > you have to format messages a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Leaving or something like that

2020-06-20 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/20/20 4:10 PM, Stefan Fjellander via agora-discussion wrote: > (I rejoined discussions) >> Sorry to see you going, but always happy to have you back if you choose. >> Can I ask what you found most difficult/frustrating? >> Difficult > I must admit I don't really know how to vote, nor how CFJs

DIS: Re: BUS: Leaving

2020-06-20 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/20/20 2:58 PM, Stefan Fjellander via agora-business wrote: > I, Bögtil, hereby deregisters, as via rule 869/46. > It's been nice knowing y'all, but I don't really have time for this nor the > energy (also I understand very little so each email required a lot of > effort) right now. I might

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3853 Judged True

2020-06-20 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/20/20 9:37 AM, nch via agora-business wrote: > Also note a gratuitous argument [4] submitted at the time the CFJ was > called which uses similar reasoning to arrive at a similar conclusion. This is tacked on at the end because I actually didn't read this gratuitous until I had written the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

2020-06-20 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/20/20 7:14 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/20/20 12:23 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/19/20 11:20 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >>> You wrote a proposal designed specifically to only be used for narrow >>> patches and then im

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