Ed Murphy wrote:
woggle wrote:
The second NoV (which wasn't on 19 May) named the crime correctly. The
first did not.
Does this invalidate CFJ 2537?
No it does not. The second NoV, on May 25, was valid (BobTHJ has yet to
post a notice to that effect though).
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 23:59, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
Ed Murphy wrote:
woggle wrote:
The second NoV (which wasn't on 19 May) named the crime correctly. The
first did not.
Does this invalidate CFJ 2537?
No it does not. The second NoV, on May 25, was valid (BobTHJ has yet to
Sent from my iPhone
On May 25, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
I intend, with Agoran consent, to cause Human Point Two to register.
What Rule says you can act on behalf of HP2 to register emself with
Agoran consent?
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
Due to Proposal 6320, Human Point Two is no longer a person, but
is still a contract and the judge of CFJ 2521 (Rule 1868: Being
unqualified to be assigned as a judge does not inherently prevent
an entity from continuing
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 18:57 -0400, comex wrote:
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
Gratuitous: As judge didn't notice the ratification attempt; if I
had noticed it I would have delayed the judgement to avoid the issue.
Since the judgement found that,
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 17:24 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote:
I revoke all x-points listed above.
I suspect this fails; surely the Cookie Jar's revocation limit isn't
that high? Given that the Cookie Jar is churning out such an insanely
large number of points, this may have quite a distorting effect on the
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 19:11 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote:
Ed Murphy wrote:
Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2524
== Equity Case 2524 ==
c-walker flipped the contestmaster of the C# Party to Murphy.
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 18:49 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote:
Due to Proposal 6320, Human Point Two is no longer a person, but
is still a contract and the judge of CFJ 2521 (Rule 1868: Being
unqualified to be assigned as a judge does not inherently prevent
an entity from continuing to be judge of a case
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 19:42 -0700, Taral wrote:
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2480a
Appeal 2480a
Panelist:
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 23:00 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
In any case, if I'm GUILTY I believe 8 rests would be an excessive
punishment.
Agreed, and I would ask people to please stop putting large punishments
on things they fear would be scammed when they're far more likely to
affect legitimate
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 14:57 +0100, Alex Smith wrote:
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 18:49 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote:
Due to Proposal 6320, Human Point Two is no longer a person, but
is still a contract and the judge of CFJ 2521 (Rule 1868: Being
unqualified to be assigned as a judge does not inherently
On Tue, 26 May 2009, Alex Smith wrote:
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 23:00 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
In any case, if I'm GUILTY I believe 8 rests would be an excessive
punishment.
Agreed, and I would ask people to please stop putting large punishments
on things they fear would be scammed when
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 16:58 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote:
NoV: Yally violated R2143, commiting the Class-6 Crime of Making My
Eyes Bleed, by publishing a report in HTML (which is not plain text).
Arguments: R101 allows players to participate in the fora. Email format
is not plain text either,
2009/5/26 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk:
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 16:58 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote:
NoV: Yally violated R2143, commiting the Class-6 Crime of Making My
Eyes Bleed, by publishing a report in HTML (which is not plain text).
Arguments: R101 allows players to participate in the fora.
On Tue, 26 May 2009, Alex Smith wrote:
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 16:58 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote:
NoV: Yally violated R2143, commiting the Class-6 Crime of Making My
Eyes Bleed, by publishing a report in HTML (which is not plain text).
Arguments: R101 allows players to participate in the fora.
Gratuitous: does the message contain a plain-text version without
artifacts? (I can't check...) If so, it's absurd to punish Yally for
including a monospaced HTML version. In Gmail and on iPhone, a
plaintext version would be displayed in variable width font (and it
can't be toggled on
It's as much a standard as the aforementioned email headers.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 26, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com
wrote:
2009/5/26 Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com:
NoV: Yally violated R2143, commiting the Class-6 Crime of Making My
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 12:15 -0400, Quazie wrote:
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
6302 6303 6304 6305 6306 6307 6308 6309 6310 6311
ais523F F F F F F A2A F F
BobTHJF P A
Nope, the conditions are vi=ai -and- vi1
Sent from my iPhone
On May 26, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com
wrote:
6302 6303 6304 6305 6306 6307 6308 6309 6310 6311
ais523F
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com wrote:
COE 6309 passed, ai=vi
VI has to be 1 as well.
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:07, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
2009/5/26 Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com:
NoV: Yally violated R2143, commiting the Class-6 Crime of Making My
Eyes Bleed, by publishing a report in HTML (which is not plain text).
I contest this.
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:40, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote:
I publish an NoV alleging that Rodlen violated Rule 2247 (The Janitor) by
failing to perform eir required duties as Janitor for the Agoran week
beginning on May 18, 2009.
Invalid. You must specify the power of the
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 13:58 -0400, comex wrote:
No rule specifically allows R1551 (Ratification) to make Rule Changes.
Rule 106 previously read:
A proposal is a document outlining changes to be made to Agora,
including enacting, repealing, or amending rules, or making
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
Err, if proposals can't change the rules, and ratification can't change
the rules, what can? Does AIAN kick in?
If the new paragraph in R106 no longer grants permission, then I
suppose Rule 1698 (Agora Is a Nomic) prevented
On Tue, 26 May 2009, comex wrote:
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
Proposal 6306 (Democratic, AI=2.0, Interest=1) by Murphy
Patch objections
...
The above notwithstanding, if the action depends on objections,
and an objection to it has been
comex wrote:
On May 25, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
I intend, with Agoran consent, to cause Human Point Two to register.
What Rule says you can act on behalf of HP2 to register emself with
Agoran consent?
If I am a party by then, then I can act on behalf of
ais523 wrote:
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 17:24 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote:
I revoke all x-points listed above.
I suspect this fails; surely the Cookie Jar's revocation limit isn't
that high? Given that the Cookie Jar is churning out such an insanely
large number of points, this may have quite a
Alex Smith wrote:
We really really need legislation in the area of act-on-behalf...
Proto-proto: A claim to act on behalf of another person constitutes
a self-ratifying claim that it is authorized by contract.
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
On May 25, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
I intend, with Agoran consent, to cause Human Point Two to register.
What Rule says you can act on behalf of HP2 to register emself with
Agoran
ais523 wrote:
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 13:58 -0400, comex wrote:
No rule specifically allows R1551 (Ratification) to make Rule Changes.
Rule 106 previously read:
A proposal is a document outlining changes to be made to Agora,
including enacting, repealing, or amending rules, or
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
Err, if proposals can't change the rules, and ratification can't change
the rules, what can? Does AIAN kick in?
Rule 106 later says the proposal ... takes effect.
But does that count as permission to make Rule Changes?
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
Alex Smith wrote:
We really really need legislation in the area of act-on-behalf...
Proto-proto: A claim to act on behalf of another person constitutes
a self-ratifying claim that it is authorized by contract.
I'm not
On Tue, 26 May 2009, Alex Smith wrote:
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 12:39 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
I haven't been paying attention to Agora at all lately.
If I'm still Scorekeepor or Herald, I resign those offices.
I deregister.
I become the holder of the office of Herald. (By R2019.)
Erm,
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 12:39 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
I haven't been paying attention to Agora at all lately.
If I'm still Scorekeepor or Herald, I resign those offices.
I deregister.
I become the holder of the office
2009/5/26 Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com:
I CFJ on the following sentence. The IADoP's report includes the date eir
previous report was submitted, not the date eir current report is being
submitted.
Evidence: Rule 2138
The IADoP's report includes the following:
d) The
Yally wrote:
I CFJ on the following sentence. The IADoP's report includes the date
eir previous report was submitted, not the date eir current report is
being submitted.
Evidence: Rule 2138
The IADoP's report includes the following:
d) The date when that office's reports
I friendly remind the Rulekeepor that the SLR has not been published
for more than 14 days.
--
-Tiger
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 20:40 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote:
Actually, no.
These NoVs were not valid, as they did not specify the rule's power.
NoV: Yally violated R2143, a Power-1 rule, commiting the Class-6 Crime
of Making My
Eyes Bleed, by publishing the IADoP report in some nonsense MIME
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn
jonatan.kilh...@gmail.comwrote:
I friendly remind the Rulekeepor that the SLR has not been published
for more than 14 days.
--
-Tiger
It was last submitted 21 May 09.
2009/5/26 Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com
wrote:
I friendly remind the Rulekeepor that the SLR has not been published
for more than 14 days.
It was last submitted 21 May 09.
Oh. Sorry about that then. That
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 21:51 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
2009/5/26 Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com
wrote:
I friendly remind the Rulekeepor that the SLR has not been published
for more than 14 days.
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Charles Walker
charles.w.wal...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 5/21/09 9:03 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
I initiate an Agoran decision to decide the holder of the Registrar
office. The eligible voters are the active players, the vote collector
is the IADoP, and
2009/5/26 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk:
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 21:51 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
2009/5/26 Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn
jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com
wrote:
I friendly remind the Rulekeepor that the SLR has not
Oh... I didn't notice. Something must be wrong with the cronjob,
which I'll fix ASAP. The online ruleset is up to date.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 26, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn
jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote:
I friendly remind the Rulekeepor that the SLR has not been published
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn
jonatan.kilh...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/5/26 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk:
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 21:51 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
2009/5/26 Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/26 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk:
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 20:40 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote:
Actually, no.
These NoVs were not valid, as they did not specify the rule's power.
NoV: Yally violated R2143, a Power-1 rule, commiting the Class-6 Crime
of Making My
Eyes Bleed, by publishing
2009/5/26 comex com...@gmail.com:
I support. I want a precedent in favor of dual-format messages for
previously stated reasons. (Considering that the text/plain was first, is
there any mail client where this is an actual problem? Why don't you like
it ehird?)
My eyes bled because he chose
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
2009/5/26 comex com...@gmail.com:
I support. I want a precedent in favor of dual-format messages for
previously stated reasons. (Considering that the text/plain was first, is
there any mail client where this
2009/5/26 comex com...@gmail.com:
the rest of the report follows. Only after the plain-text version
(and 3 lines of multipart header at the top) is the HTML version.
Rule 2143 requires that reports be published in plain text, not *only*
in plain text.
MIME != plain text
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
2009/5/26 comex com...@gmail.com:
the rest of the report follows. Only after the plain-text version
(and 3 lines of multipart header at the top) is the HTML version.
Rule 2143 requires that reports be
2009/5/26 comex com...@gmail.com:
I pledge not to make any agreements with ehird in the future.
You can't join any contracts I'm party to now.
Cool.
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
2009/5/26 comex com...@gmail.com:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
I deregister Bayes.
I pledge not to make any agreements with ehird in the future.
I
2009/5/26 comex com...@gmail.com:
You can't.
kay
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 15:39, Benjamin Schultz ke...@verizon.net wrote:
Trivially GUILTY / SILENCE.
FYI, you're obligated to destroy 1 rest in root's possession due to
the associated NoV.
BobTHJ
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 18:14 -0400, Quazie wrote:
On behalf of hp2:
Hp2 intends to register with agoran consent.
I consent.
I ask nicely that you let it. Its been around for a while, its not
doing any harm.
Murphy is now a member.
Also, what does the membership of bayes look like?
Just
2009/5/27 Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Benjamin Schultz ke...@verizon.net wrote:
On May 25, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Ed Murphy wrote:
I request the consent of OscarMeyr and Quazie to become party to
Human Point Two.
I intend, with Agoran consent, to cause Human
2009/5/26 Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com:
I ask nicely that you let it. Its been around for a while, its not
doing any harm.
Acting as a simple shill partnership is harm.
Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
Tue 12 May 17:59 Wooble Wins by High Score. All scores are reset.
Not to 0, therefore the report is probably entirely incorrect.
2009/5/27 Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com:
Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
Tue 12 May 17:59 Wooble Wins by High Score. All scores are reset.
Not to 0, therefore the report is probably entirely incorrect.
No, they are reset to floor(S*P/10) or whatever. It's in the cart at
the bottom headed by For
2009/5/27 Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com:
-Tiger, who also did away with the Geo. Mean since e didn't know
what it meant.
Oh please... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_mean
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn
jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote:
Tue 12 May 17:59 Wooble Wins by High Score. All scores are reset.
The reset doesn't happen until a week after the win, to give a chance
to declare a skunk.
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:32 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009, Sean Hunt wrote:
Aaron Goldfein wrote:
Proposal: IADoP CAN and SHALL (AI = 2, II = 1):
I intend, with 3 support, to make the quoted
coppro wrote:
Aaron Goldfein wrote:
Proposal: IADoP CAN and SHALL (AI = 2, II = 1):
In Rule 2154 (Election Procedure), after the sentence reading:
Any player CAN, with Support, initiate an election for a
specified elected office for which no election is already in
ais523 wrote:
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 18:14 -0400, Quazie wrote:
On behalf of hp2:
Hp2 intends to register with agoran consent.
I consent.
NttPF. (If you've already TTttPF'ed, then ignore this; I'm just
filing the relevant messages during the four-day waiting period.)
Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
2009/5/27 Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Benjamin Schultz ke...@verizon.net wrote:
On May 25, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Ed Murphy wrote:
I request the consent of OscarMeyr and Quazie to become party to
Human Point Two.
I intend, with Agoran
ehird wrote:
2009/5/27 Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com:
-Tiger, who also did away with the Geo. Mean since e didn't know
what it meant.
Oh please... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_mean
Would someone please explain Min. to Win? I'm sure I could work it
out, but I have
2009/5/27 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com:
Would someone please explain Min. to Win? I'm sure I could work it
out, but I have enough other things on my plate as it is.
Minimum points to win?
Ed Murphy wrote:
coppro wrote:
Aaron Goldfein wrote:
Proposal: IADoP CAN and SHALL (AI = 2, II = 1):
In Rule 2154 (Election Procedure), after the sentence reading:
Any player CAN, with Support, initiate an election for a
specified elected office for which no election is
ehird wrote:
2009/5/27 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com:
Would someone please explain Min. to Win? Â I'm sure I could work it
out, but I have enough other things on my plate as it is.
Minimum points to win?
PROTIP: Begin by assuming I am not a complete idiot. Has this been
evaluated as
coppro wrote:
Ed Murphy wrote:
coppro wrote:
Aaron Goldfein wrote:
Proposal: IADoP CAN and SHALL (AI = 2, II = 1):
In Rule 2154 (Election Procedure), after the sentence reading:
Any player CAN, with Support, initiate an election for a
specified elected office for which
5) Scroll of Polymorph - Frequency 0.05
When a Scroll of Shuffling is read, the Dungeon Master SHALL act
on the reader's behalf to destroy a random number of Scrolls e
owns, then create an equal number of Scrolls in that player's
possession.
Should the text say
Benjamin Schultz wrote:
5) Scroll of Polymorph - Frequency 0.05
When a Scroll of Shuffling is read, the Dungeon Master SHALL act
on the reader's behalf to destroy a random number of Scrolls e
owns, then create an equal number of Scrolls in that player's
possession.
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