Re: DIS: Campaign proposal proto

2017-11-22 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Corona wrote: Well, I felt uncomfortable not having a Campaign Proposal if PSS is going to have one, so... I'd rather if y'all checked it for obvious holes, since it looks like it can't be retracted once announced. Hm you CAN retract it from the Proposal Pool (rule 2350).

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: omd used to have a size-limit on messages that e explicitly turned off for the Rulekeepor (the FLR was over the limit). Can't remember what the limit was or if it's still on. omd confirmed in ##nomic that this happened, and there were two messages by

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread Ørjan Johansen
NttPF Greetings, Ørjan. On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 at 16:45 Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: Is it worth CFJing then? It's certainly intended to be the former, and the serial comma is only required in lists, right? -Aris

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote: I've actually been meaning to ask you this for a while Ørjan, and now seems like a decent time to do so (i don't mean to be rude or w/e obv). What's the story behind your watching of Agora? Because it seems like you were around in like 1993 and have been

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Aris Merchant
Both, and also at least one AI-attorney qualified to practice before the Interstellar Court of Millitary and Martime Law. We want to keep our options open. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:47 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > are you demanding a human attorney or a canine attorney? > >

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Aris Merchant
We have consulted with our attorneys. I had absolutely nothing to do with this Telnaior person before being accused of participating in this scam with em. I don't even know who e really is, as we've never been in the same room together. We demand to be shown our accusers and presented with the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing

2017-11-22 Thread Madeline
You already did! <_< On 2017-11-23 13:02, VJ Rada wrote: Speaking of trust tokens, I give corona and telnaior one. On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Madeline wrote: One idea I had is a list of "goals" that could be maintained - goals could be added through proposal, and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing

2017-11-22 Thread Madeline
One idea I had is a list of "goals" that could be maintained - goals could be added through proposal, and when someone achieved a goal it was removed from the list and that player won the game. That'd allow for things like how trust tokens say the "first" player to do whatever wins. Perhaps it

Re: DIS: What counts as a scam?

2017-11-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2017-11-22 at 20:44 -0500, ATMunn wrote: > Does this count a timing scam, or just a really lucky sequence of > events? This was not something I planned, or ever could have planned. > But still, I did end up benefiting by getting a stamp for no cost, > and I did not even break the rules. >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing

2017-11-22 Thread ATMunn
As do I. On 11/22/2017 8:51 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: I support this idea. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:50 PM, Alex Smith wrote: On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 12:33 +1100, Madeline wrote:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Would this work?

2017-11-22 Thread VJ Rada
>But this wouldn't work in the same way that the Registrar need not track >contract-defined switches. The reason the Registrar need not track such switches is that switches are defined as within the rules. Duties can be imposed by non-rule things. On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:31 PM, VJ Rada

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing

2017-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I support this idea. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:50 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 12:33 +1100, Madeline wrote: >> Potential expansion: They name an English letter along with the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing

2017-11-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 12:33 +1100, Madeline wrote: > Potential expansion: They name an English letter along with the attempt, > and whoever resolves it gets a token of that letter. Someone who manages > to collect a token of every letter can receive a Black Ribbon. > Alternatively this may work

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread VJ Rada
oh no it's a scam spam scam On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I wonder why. What could the reason be? > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > > > >> On Nov 22, 2017, at

Re: BUS: SCAMMERS FOUND! (Was: Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!)

2017-11-22 Thread Madeline
How many E-mails actually went THROUGH seemed inconsistent and I'm not really sure at all what to make of it. On 2017-11-23 12:44, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: In the future, I will. Part of the joke was the mass of emails, demonstrating the overreaction. Publius Scribonius

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I wonder why. What could the reason be? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:47 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > > The most recent 5 of your messages went to my spam folder for some reason > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:19

DIS: Re: OFF: SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread VJ Rada
The most recent 5 of your messages went to my spam folder for some reason On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING! A > test message contains

Re: BUS: SCAMMERS FOUND! (Was: Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!)

2017-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Sorry, I will stop. But, my spam filter has thought for years that any email I send is spam. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:45 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > You have successfully convinced

Re: DIS: What counts as a scam?

2017-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Not a timing scam because, it could have been done in at any time, while the FV was the amount of shinies less than the amount o gave you. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:44 PM, ATMunn wrote: > >

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread VJ Rada
are you demanding a human attorney or a canine attorney? On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > We admit nothing. We invoke our rights to remain silent, and demand attorneys. > > -Aris > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Kerim Aydin

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread ATMunn
I think a pledge would work better. On 11/22/2017 8:45 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: Proto-contract: Emergency Attorney Services. PSS will provide Emergency Attorney Services with 12 hours notice to defend players or other persons. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus

Re: BUS: SCAMMERS FOUND! (Was: Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!)

2017-11-22 Thread Aris Merchant
You have successfully convinced my spam filter that you're evil. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > In the future, I will. Part of the joke was the mass of emails, demonstrating > the overreaction. > >

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Proto-contract: Emergency Attorney Services. PSS will provide Emergency Attorney Services with 12 hours notice to defend players or other persons. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:43 PM, Aris Merchant >

DIS: What counts as a scam?

2017-11-22 Thread ATMunn
Yesterday, I obtained a free stamp. Here's how it happened. Before I got up in the morning, o published the Treasuror's report. Then, when I got up in the morning, seeing that the FV was only 4, I bought a stamp for 1 shiny. Also before I got up, o created the ACU. E also gave all players 40

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Aris Merchant
We admit nothing. We invoke our rights to remain silent, and demand attorneys. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > You're in on it. > > I knew it. > > Traitor. > > On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: >> Isn't it possible that e was

Re: BUS: SCAMMERS FOUND! (Was: Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!)

2017-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
In the future, I will. Part of the joke was the mass of emails, demonstrating the overreaction. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > OOC: pick one forum please,

Re: BUS: SCAMMERS FOUND! (Was: Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!)

2017-11-22 Thread Aris Merchant
OOC: pick one forum please, to avoid spamming. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > SCAMMERS FOUND! A test message contains confusing contents was received at > 0:45 on November 23, 2017. This message took the

SCAMMERS FOUND! (Was: Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!)

2017-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
SCAMMERS FOUND! A test message contains confusing contents was received at 0:45 on November 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar messages that led up to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming. Watch out for suspicious messages from this player or eir

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
You're in on it. I knew it. Traitor. On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different > whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it > looks like to me. > > -Aris > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53 PM,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing

2017-11-22 Thread VJ Rada
you just want australians to be able to easily do this while everyone else is asleep, don't you? nice try. On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Madeline wrote: > Potential expansion: They name an English letter along with the attempt, and > whoever resolves it gets a token of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing

2017-11-22 Thread Madeline
Potential expansion: They name an English letter along with the attempt, and whoever resolves it gets a token of that letter. Someone who manages to collect a token of every letter can receive a Black Ribbon. Alternatively this may work better as a contract, but then I have no idea what kind of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing

2017-11-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 12:24 +1100, Madeline wrote: > Any player can Attempt to Scam by announcement. Only one Attempt to > Scam may be ongoing at a time. > > After an Attempt to Scam, any player can Resolve the Scam by > announcement, but not in a timely fashion. > > If the player who Resolves

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Would this work?

2017-11-22 Thread VJ Rada
>If you were also, Treasuror, with distributions, you could be even more >efficient Yes, yeah, I already pointed out that o could get infinite favours this way On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > If you were also,

DIS: Re: BUS: Would this work?

2017-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
If you were also, Treasuror, with distributions, you could be even more efficient. But this wouldn't work in the same way that the Registrar need not track contract-defined switches. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:28 PM, VJ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing

2017-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I like this day. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:24 PM, Madeline wrote: > > On 2017-11-23 12:17, ATMunn wrote: >> It seems like Agora is in a scammy mood. >> >> I hereby declare that this message is a scam. >

DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing

2017-11-22 Thread Madeline
On 2017-11-23 12:17, ATMunn wrote: It seems like Agora is in a scammy mood. I hereby declare that this message is a scam. Proposal draft: Any player can Attempt to Scam by announcement. Only one Attempt to Scam may be ongoing at a time. After an Attempt to Scam, any player can Resolve the

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 12:03 +1100, Madeline wrote: > What is a "timing scam" and how do I go about performing one? It's a scam that could be trivially prevented by other players doing a particular action, and often it's obvious what the action is; but the action in question only has a very

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Innocent message. Probably.

2017-11-22 Thread Aris Merchant
It was supposed to make people laugh, not to make them believe anything. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:21 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > Luckily, satire is illegal. > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: >> It is indeed an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Innocent message. Probably.

2017-11-22 Thread VJ Rada
Luckily, satire is illegal. On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > It is indeed an invitation to speculate. It's also satire. > > -Aris > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:18 PM, VJ Rada wrote: >> saying that there's a

DIS: SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING! A scam message contains confusing contents was received at 1:20 on November 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar messages that led up to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming. Watch

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Innocent message. Probably.

2017-11-22 Thread Aris Merchant
It is indeed an invitation to speculate. It's also satire. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:18 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > saying that there's a possibility it's one of those things is > explicitly inviting others to speculate on that message's purpose, > implying that there is one

DIS: SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING! A test message contains confusing contents was received at 1:09 on November 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar messages that led up to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming. Watch

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Innocent message. Probably.

2017-11-22 Thread VJ Rada
saying that there's a possibility it's one of those things is explicitly inviting others to speculate on that message's purpose, implying that there is one and the message does not, indeed, do nothing. On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: >

DIS: Re: BUS: Innocent message. Probably.

2017-11-22 Thread Aris Merchant
It's only faking if it's intended to mislead. I certainly wasn't trying to mislead people into believing anything. I don't even what I'd be trying to mislead people into believing. That it could be one of those things? Any message could be any of them. Any message could theoretically be all of

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Alexis Hunt
A timing scam is generally any sort of scam or even just a regular action which needs to be performed at a precise time to work. The purest form, I'd say, is doing something in between two other things being done in an unexpected way; Alex has a particularly great example that I can't recall. On

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Madeline
What is a "timing scam" and how do I go about performing one? On 2017-11-23 12:00, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: Oh, well that's plausible, but I just wanted to be safe. That could also be cover for a timing scam. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus

Re: DIS: test message please ignore

2017-11-22 Thread Josh T
My nickname: dragging Agora to like 1992 in terms of internationalization of its encoding. 天火狐 On 22 November 2017 at 19:59, ATMunn wrote: > Yeah, I've noticed this as well, it happens in my text editor as well. I > tend to go with the approach of having the | be in

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Oh, well that's plausible, but I just wanted to be safe. That could also be cover for a timing scam. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:54 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > Isn't it possible that

Re: DIS: test message please ignore

2017-11-22 Thread ATMunn
Yeah, I've noticed this as well, it happens in my text editor as well. I tend to go with the approach of having the | be in the same column. On 11/22/2017 7:56 PM, Alex Smith wrote: On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 11:45 +1100, Madeline wrote: Telnaior| 天火狐 | Trigon | Telnaior|

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Madeline
lmao Yes, that's what I intended Too bad the answer is "none of the above" :V On 2017-11-23 11:54, Aris Merchant wrote: Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it looks like to me. -Aris On Wed, Nov

Re: DIS: test message please ignore

2017-11-22 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 at 19:57 Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 11:45 +1100, Madeline wrote: > > > Telnaior| > > > 天火狐 | > > > Trigon | > > > > > Telnaior| > > > 天火狐 | > > > Trigon | > > > > > Telnaior| > > > 天火狐 | > > >

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Josh T
In case if you're curious, if things are set up correctly, in a fixed width font a CJK character is supposed to have the width of two Latin alphabet characters. 天火狐 On 22 November 2017 at 19:54, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Isn't it possible that e was trying to

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread ATMunn
Yeah, I agree. I think PSS was just joking around, though. On 11/22/2017 7:54 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it looks like to me. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53

Re: DIS: test message please ignore

2017-11-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 11:45 +1100, Madeline wrote: > > Telnaior| > > 天火狐 | > > Trigon | > > > Telnaior| > > 天火狐 | > > Trigon | > > > Telnaior| > > 天火狐 | > > Trigon | According to the Unicode standards, the vast majority of Japanese characters

DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Aris Merchant
Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it looks like to me. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > SCAM ALERT! ALL

DIS: test message please ignore

2017-11-22 Thread Madeline
| Telnaior    | | 天火狐 | | Trigon  | | Telnaior    | | 天火狐   | | Trigon  | | Telnaior    | | 天火狐  | | Trigon  |

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread ATMunn
But what if it would? On 11/22/2017 7:08 PM, VJ Rada wrote: You know I actually have a completely legal way that may well work and be able to get infinite favours. It would be unethical to do it (I promised Cuddlebeam to keep it secret) but wouldn't it be funny if I did it? (The answer to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread VJ Rada
Remember the way I tried to pay for the Estate? Given that economic favours are 1 shiny right now, o. could generate as many favours as e wanted if e got rid of eir shinies (e would be the earliest player to register w/ 0 shinies). E could, of course, do that for other people via contract if e got

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
Trying to get infinite stuff has a good history if it's legal go for it, there's several rulings that may stop that kind of thing but you never know. The shinies system was broken in subtle ways, but some big systems have big loopholes from the start we just shrug and reset, better now then

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread VJ Rada
You know I actually have a completely legal way that may well work and be able to get infinite favours. It would be unethical to do it (I promised Cuddlebeam to keep it secret) but wouldn't it be funny if I did it? (The answer to that question is no, rada. it wouldn't) On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
One is to just say that it is poor drafting and therefore as soon as the currencies do not match, we do not know what is within the set and therefore only the bounds are known and valid. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:03 PM,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread Madeline
Pledges aren't a currency and I doubt anyone would support a fine like that. On 2017-11-23 11:02, VJ Rada wrote: The rule is pretty broken though tbh. Imagine if Alexis had decided to fine me 2 pledges (which are an asset). Are 2 pledges between 1 shiny and 3,000 favours? On Thu, Nov 23, 2017

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread Aris Merchant
I'll put a solution to that in my ruling. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:02 PM VJ Rada wrote: > The rule is pretty broken though tbh. Imagine if Alexis had decided to > fine me 2 pledges (which are an asset). Are 2 pledges between 1 shiny > and 3,000 favours? > > On Thu,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
We need to create a 2d graph with amounts as an x and currency as the y to help in this assessment. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:02 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > > The rule is pretty broken though tbh. Imagine if

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

2017-11-22 Thread VJ Rada
Step 1: be at school Step 2: don't pay attention On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:01 AM, ATMunn wrote: > I certainly can't keep up. There are messages left and right here. > > > On 11/22/2017 7:01 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >> >> Yes, I am supposed to be at a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread VJ Rada
The rule is pretty broken though tbh. Imagine if Alexis had decided to fine me 2 pledges (which are an asset). Are 2 pledges between 1 shiny and 3,000 favours? On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Madeline wrote: > And it's not even REMOTELY impossible to tell the relative value,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

2017-11-22 Thread ATMunn
I certainly can't keep up. There are messages left and right here. On 11/22/2017 7:01 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: Yes, I am supposed to be at a party tonight, but am claiming to be sick, sick with the nomic bug. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Because it has to go through the Agora mail server. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Madeline wrote: > > Why does it take me a few minutes to receive messages D: > Whatever, Alexis beat Rada to the punch

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread Aris Merchant
H. arbitor G., could you assign the blue card CFJ to me ASAP? It would be nice to get some closure on this. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 3:59 PM ATMunn wrote: > Wait nevermind, maybe e didn't. > > On 11/22/2017 6:57 PM, ATMunn wrote: > > The transfer failed, as Alexis

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

2017-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Yes, I am supposed to be at a party tonight, but am claiming to be sick, sick with the nomic bug. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 6:49 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > > Holy frick, why is everyone on at the

DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

2017-11-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
I was trying to figure this out and I'm not sure, but I think that the rule is written with a single SHALL and two sub parts, so failing to do either or both is only one infraction. On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > I point the finger at trigon for failing to name a silly person last week.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread Madeline
And it's not even REMOTELY impossible to tell the relative value, you did so yourself earlier to say 3000 favours was more than 25 shinies! On 2017-11-23 10:54, VJ Rada wrote: Arguments: Blue Cards states "The person issuing a Blue Card must, in the same message, announce a penalty between 1

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

2017-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
No, VJ Rada is. Sorry for hijacking the thread and causing confusion. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > > This entire conversation went way over my head. As far as I

DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 at 18:58 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > I support. But, Corona deserves more credit, the way I read it we would > have had to bend the rules because I missed the next blatant clause. > Fair point; thanks Corona!

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread ATMunn
Wait nevermind, maybe e didn't. On 11/22/2017 6:57 PM, ATMunn wrote: The transfer failed, as Alexis had already acted on your behalf to pay the fine. On 11/22/2017 6:50 PM, VJ Rada wrote: I pay one shiny to create the following contract (destroying 10 bills and trading w/ ACU) TITLE: WHATEVER

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread VJ Rada
Huh, that is weird but fair enough! On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Madeline wrote: > SORE WA CHIGAU YO > "For each Party, there is a currency called Favours in that Party." > > > > On 2017-11-23 10:54, VJ Rada wrote: >> >> Arguments: Blue Cards states "The person issuing a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 at 18:57 ATMunn wrote: > The transfer failed, as Alexis had already acted on your behalf to pay the > fine. > Assuming the Blue Card worked at all, yes.

DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread ATMunn
The transfer failed, as Alexis had already acted on your behalf to pay the fine. On 11/22/2017 6:50 PM, VJ Rada wrote: I pay one shiny to create the following contract (destroying 10 bills and trading w/ ACU) TITLE: WHATEVER TEXT: THIS CONTRACT HOLDS RADA's Assets i transfer 3,000 justice

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread Madeline
SORE WA CHIGAU YO "For each Party, there is a currency called Favours in that Party." On 2017-11-23 10:54, VJ Rada wrote: Arguments: Blue Cards states "The person issuing a Blue Card must, in the same message, announce a penalty between 1 shiny and the greater of 25 shinies and the amount the

DIS: Anyone want to be interim Referee?

2017-11-22 Thread Alexis Hunt
I don't actually.

DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread VJ Rada
Arguments: Blue Cards states "The person issuing a Blue Card must, in the same message, announce a penalty between 1 shiny and the greater of 25 shinies and the amount the bad sport profited from the infraction,". It is impossible to tell whether a penalty is between an amount in shinies and an

DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 at 18:49 VJ Rada wrote: > Good, I'm glad o. This Blue Card is legal, but the penalty is not > effective. I call an urgent CFJ with the statement: A blue card can > only have a penalty imposed in shinies. > > Alexis and PSS are and should be obviously

DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread Madeline
Why does it take me a few minutes to receive messages D: Whatever, Alexis beat Rada to the punch anyway. On 2017-11-23 10:51, Telnaior wrote: With the support of myself and ATMunn, I Levy the Fine. I then act on behalf of VJ Rada to transfer the favours according to the fine's distribution.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

2017-11-22 Thread Reuben Staley
Holy frick, why is everyone on at the same time and able to respond to me literally seconds after each other? Is it due to this game that's happening? On 11/22/2017 4:45 PM, Madeline wrote: Not you! >_< On 2017-11-23 10:43, Reuben Staley wrote: This entire conversation went way over my

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

2017-11-22 Thread ATMunn
I have no idea, to be honest. I was wondering that too. On 11/22/2017 6:46 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: The confusion came from the fact that this thread was about my lack of silliness, so I assumed it was about me. Why exactly are we discussing that here, btw? On 11/22/2017 4:44 PM, VJ Rada

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

2017-11-22 Thread Reuben Staley
The confusion came from the fact that this thread was about my lack of silliness, so I assumed it was about me. Why exactly are we discussing that here, btw? On 11/22/2017 4:44 PM, VJ Rada wrote: No you're good, they're talking about fining me (which I will fight tooth and nail) I pointed a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

2017-11-22 Thread Madeline
Not you! >_< On 2017-11-23 10:43, Reuben Staley wrote: This entire conversation went way over my head. As far as I understand, I'm being given a blue card and a fine of 3000 favours? Do I have any favours to pay this with? On 11/22/2017 4:34 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: Oh I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

2017-11-22 Thread Aris Merchant
Nothing to do with you, in fact I don't really understand why this discussion is on this thread. Also, 3000 anything is excessive. For goodness sake people, pick fines that are payable. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > This entire

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

2017-11-22 Thread ATMunn
Nope, this is about VJ Rada. You had the finger pointed at you for failing to be silly, but that's it. On 11/22/2017 6:43 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: This entire conversation went way over my head. As far as I understand, I'm being given a blue card and a fine of 3000 favours? Do I have any

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

2017-11-22 Thread VJ Rada
No you're good, they're talking about fining me (which I will fight tooth and nail) I pointed a finger at you, I suppose Alexis must resolve it. On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Reuben Staley wrote: > This entire conversation went way over my head. As far as I

Re: DIS: Campaign proposal proto

2017-11-22 Thread ATMunn
I think it's an interesting idea, but it's a bit too pragmatic. I haven't read anyone else's messages, but here are my comments. On 11/22/2017 6:17 PM, Corona wrote: Well, I felt uncomfortable not having a Campaign Proposal if PSS is going to have one, so... I'd rather if y'all checked it for

Re: DIS: Campaign proposal proto

2017-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
You SHOULD make it a SHOULD not a SHALL. That is how other emotion things have been done. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 6:26 PM, Corona wrote: > > That was intended to be the point; you could choose

Re: DIS: Campaign proposal proto

2017-11-22 Thread Corona
Oh well. If it turns out to be unpopular, I won't submit it, and in no case will I commit to it. On 11/22/17, VJ Rada wrote: > It's a proto, correctly sent to discussion. > > I question the wisdom of imposing an obligation on anyone who reads a > particular message. It's not

Re: DIS: Campaign proposal proto

2017-11-22 Thread Corona
That was intended to be the point; you could choose not to disclose that you have read the message, avoiding any punishment for not having emotion X On 11/22/17, VJ Rada wrote: > It's a proto, correctly sent to discussion. > > I question the wisdom of imposing an obligation

Re: DIS: Campaign proposal proto

2017-11-22 Thread Corona
It's a proto. I apologise for the pronouns, here's a fixed version: I submit my Campaign Proposal for the Herald election: Create a new rule with power 1, name "Fireworks" and text as follows: All types of Fireworks are fixed assets. The Herald is the recordkeepor of all types of Fireworks. The

Re: DIS: Campaign proposal proto

2017-11-22 Thread VJ Rada
It's a proto, correctly sent to discussion. I question the wisdom of imposing an obligation on anyone who reads a particular message. It's not possible to know who reads what. Also, I'd like not to be punished for not being happy enough please. You can't tell me what to do! Finally, I voted

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

2017-11-22 Thread Madeline
Really guys? The rule says "a penalty between 1 shiny and the greater of 25 shinies and the amount the bad sport profited from the infraction". We can do it. On 2017-11-23 10:07, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: No it is not. The rule says we may levy a fine between 1 and 25 shinies.

Re: DIS: Campaign proposal proto

2017-11-22 Thread Madeline
Need to TTttPF, and also you forgot Spivak pronouns. On 2017-11-23 10:17, Corona wrote: Well, I felt uncomfortable not having a Campaign Proposal if PSS is going to have one, so... I'd rather if y'all checked it for obvious holes, since it looks like it can't be retracted once announced. The

DIS: Campaign proposal proto

2017-11-22 Thread Corona
Well, I felt uncomfortable not having a Campaign Proposal if PSS is going to have one, so... I'd rather if y'all checked it for obvious holes, since it looks like it can't be retracted once announced. The idea was that since the Herald, among other things, manages the celebrations, he could have

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

2017-11-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
That reminds me more of a Demotivational poster than a meme... (we can solve the problem by defining anything actually funny to not be a meme). On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > I have found one, linked here: >

  1   2   >