DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9009-9010

2023-09-11 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I vote FOR on 9009 and AGAINST on 9010. I'll have to resubmit, there's at least one glaring error dealing with expiration. On Mon, Sep 11, 2023, 6:31 AM juan via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > secretsnail9 via agora-official [2023-09-11 00:40]: > > PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS

DIS: Re: OFF: [Webmastor] Monthly Report

2023-10-11 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 10:35 AM 4st nomic via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I unofficially temporarily deputise as webmaster to publish the following > report, since it's been awhile since we had one of these. (I just copied > the one from April (yes, it's been that

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal Submission - Stone Repeal

2023-10-31 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I think the proper way to repeal anything is to tweak and break it so subtly it's finally scammed, then you repeal it. That seems to be the way things go. Or at least the fun way. Maybe we just need new stones, after all! On Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 7:52 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business <

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9020-9026

2023-11-06 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I vote FOR on all Agoran (not agorant ) referenda. On Mon, Nov 6, 2023, 7:42 AM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I vote as follows: > > 9020~ 4st, ...[1] 1.0 Free Black Ribbons > > AGAINST > > > > 9021~ 4st, ...[1] 1.0 Free

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Herald, snail, Aspen, juan) Murder of a God - A Paradox Lost

2023-10-03 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Without a herald, however, there is no one to govern the process otherwise, other than our group, as a whole. If such a thing is to not be countenanced, let it be decided after review. The whole thesis process is ungoverned, and exists outside the rules, and no herald had thus made any

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Herald, snail, Aspen, juan) Murder of a God - A Paradox Lost

2023-10-03 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 10:35 PM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 10/3/23 23:03, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > > Without a herald, however, there is no one to govern the process > otherwise, > > other than

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Prime Ministor) Murder of a God - A Paradox Lost

2023-10-11 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 2:13 PM juan via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > 4st nomic via agora-business [2023-10-11 10:28]: > > On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 6:00 AM juan via agora-business > > > I nominate this thesis for a Magisteriate of Nomic Art and I would > > > nominate

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [@Absurdor] Pushin

2023-10-05 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 3:49 PM juan via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > 4st nomic via agora-business [2023-10-04 13:17]: > > On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 1:22 PM juan via agora-business < > > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > > I push the boulder. > > > > > > --

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [@Absurdor] Pushin

2023-10-05 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 4:18 PM Kiako via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > Firstly, nowhere does it say the switch is flipped, instead it says > > that it's simply increased. A switch isn't an integer, so one > > assumption that we operate on is that the value of the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Thaumaturgy

2023-10-09 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 12:45 PM juan via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > 4st nomic via agora-business [2023-10-09 10:44]: > > On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 7:27 PM 4st nomic <4st.no...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I submit the following proposal: > > > { > > > Title: Wizards

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9011-9019

2023-10-20 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
CoE: the proposal pool lacks my proposals submitted October 9th. On Fri, Oct 20, 2023, 4:58 AM secretsnail9 via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW > > If you vote on a proposal, please edit this spreadsheet with your votes: > > >

DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly report

2023-10-09 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
some nitpicking, because I CAN! There's nothing to CoE on the report tho, so it's excellent enough for all intents and purposes otherwise. On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 1:24 PM juan via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Convetions: > * Player: Latest player name. > small thing:

DIS: (@Collector) Re: BUS: Registration, and soliloquy

2023-08-21 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Tagging Collector for the stample createded here. On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 6:51 AM 4st nomic <4st.no...@gmail.com> wrote: > I grant Kate a welcome package! (And gently remind them to join as a > participant of the Birthday Tournament: TLDR: It's like Agora + > Werewolf/Mafia/Salem) > -- 4ˢᵗ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration, and soliloquy

2023-08-21 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 10:05 AM Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote: > On 21/08/2023 17:47, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 7:31 AM Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-business > < > > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org&g

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration, and soliloquy

2023-08-21 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 7:31 AM Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 21/08/2023 14:51, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > > I grant Kate a welcome package! (And gently remind them to join as a > > participant of the Birthday Tournament: TLDR:

DIS: Re: OFF: [HERALD] Attention Birthday TourneyParticipants: Lists distributed

2023-08-22 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 9:39 AM 4st nomic via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Let it be known that a list of lists of roles and a list of numbers were > distributed to Janet and Kiako respectively and separately. Neither should > know the other list. > I know both lists,

DIS: Re: OFF: [HERALD] Attention Birthday TourneyParticipants: Lists distributed

2023-08-22 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 9:49 AM 4st nomic <4st.no...@gmail.com> wrote: > https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg13467.html > This message also marks the start date of the tourney. > Typo: That* message also marks the start date of the tourney. -- 4ˢᵗ Deputy Herald

Re: DIS: [Agoran't] Mutual role reveal offer

2023-08-22 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 3:15 PM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > This is a salted SHA-256 hash of my > role: c06bc8d4ffecc7f35cced2965ce3eeae5e427e2e0cc239803b1adbd30d1219d1 > > I hashed it with this site: >

Re: DIS: [Agoran't] Mutual role reveal offer

2023-08-22 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 3:32 PM 4st nomic <4st.no...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 3:15 PM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> This is a salted SHA-256 hash of my >> role:

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9027-9030

2023-11-13 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
CoE: Rules as items v5 is the proposal with me as the author. That was to be withdrawn, and replaced with rules as items v6. On Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 4:13 AM secretsnail9 via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Dear CoEs relevant to the Promotor: everything should be fixed as

DIS: Re: BUS: Convening the Thesis Review Board

2023-07-06 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 12:12 AM 4st nomic via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > The thesis can be found here: > > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2023-June/051673.html > Thanks to Juan and Snail for the feedback! These are the changes

DIS: Re: BUS: [@Arbitor/@Referee] The Boulder Was Not Pushed.

2023-07-08 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 7:30 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 7/7/23 22:27, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > > (Some related CFJs) > > Arguments: IRRELEVANT. No punishment can be imposed in any case. > > -- > Janet Cobb > > Assessor, Rulekeepor,

DIS: Re: (@Surveyor) Re: BUS: [dep. Surveyor] Weekly Survey

2023-07-16 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 9:54 PM ais523 via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Mon, 2023-07-10 at 12:06 -0300, juan via agora-business wrote: > > STATE OF THE LAND > > > >A B C D E F G H I J > > +-+ > > 0| . . T . . . . . . J |0 > > 1| . . . J . .

Re: DIS: Re: (@Surveyor) Re: BUS: [dep. Surveyor] Weekly Survey

2023-07-16 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 11:17 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 7/16/23 03:51, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 9:54 PM ais523 via agora-business < > > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrot

Re: DIS: Agoran't Draft

2023-07-10 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Changes shortlist: - "anytime" to "any time" - used Janet's text for Employee - removed Errorer (one can propose to resolve the spoiler-employee problem with blots or other punishment.) - added "Similarly, for other roles and their win conditions (such as Employee), if there exists an ambiguity

DIS: VOLUNTEER SIGNUP REQUEST!! - Birthday Tournament

2023-08-05 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 4:04 PM 4st nomic via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I intend to, without 3 objections, initiate a sanctioned tournament (the > Birthday tournament) under a single regulation with the following text: > ... TLDR: I would like at least 2 volunteers

Re: DIS: VOLUNTEER SIGNUP REQUEST!! - Birthday Tournament

2023-08-05 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 4:04 PM Kiako via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I'd like to volunteer to help with the Birthday Tournament! > > > -- > > kiako > > I currently have the following volunteers: - kiako -- 4ˢᵗ Deputy Herald Uncertified Bad Idea Generator

Re: DIS: (draft) (Self-Contained?) Time Shenanigans

2023-06-20 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 2:02 PM juan via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > 4st nomic via agora-discussion [2023-06-20 13:49]: > > On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 1:34 PM juan via agora-discussion < > > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: &

Re: DIS: (draft) (Self-Contained?) Time Shenanigans

2023-06-20 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 11:10 AM juan via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > 4st nomic via agora-discussion [2023-06-20 09:24]: > > I am trying to figure out how to make "retroactive" instead of > retroactive > > changes, at least fo

Re: DIS: (draft) (Self-Contained?) Time Shenanigans

2023-06-20 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 1:34 PM juan via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > 4st nomic via agora-discussion [2023-06-20 11:42]: > > Hm... ok, basic explanation of what I want... > > I want some sort of way where there is a switch (Unfathomabilit

DIS: More Drafts

2023-06-15 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I guess I felt like drafting today! Team is a player text switch defaulting to the first word of a player's name. The Teamster tracks teams monthly. Once each month, each player CAN, by announcement, set their team to any one word. When a player wins, each player that has had eir team

DIS: (Discussion) A subgame about intentionalism.

2023-06-21 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Each players has a hat. If a player has 5 or more hats, e CAN, by announcement, give the hats back, and thereby, wins the game. A rule such as this is possible in more words. We could delve into details of hats, fungibility, fixedness, transferrals. But I am of the opinion that natural

Re: DIS: Agoran't Draft

2023-06-21 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
As the person who is planning to run this tournament, I am willing to accept any special responsibility required or willing to not play, if that would enable the tourney to proceed smoothly. :) I don't have too much interest in winning, otherwise I probably would have won by now. On Wed, Jun 21,

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Arbitor) CFJ 4044

2023-06-23 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 5:26 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/23/23 20:16, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > > I motion to reconsider 4044, but I still find it to be TRUE, because > > continuity is implied, regardless of exactly "how" it works. >

Re: DIS: Agoran't Draft

2023-06-28 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
New draft of the regulations (the base Agoran't rules seem fine to me?) Changes: - Clarifying how changes occur (we're just gonna use the Agoran rules, ) - applied G's suggestion to slightly reduce first-mover advantage. - added "and quorum is initially set to half the number of participants." -

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposition 9002

2023-06-26 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 7:27 AM secretsnail9 via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > ID Author(s) AITitle > --- > 9002~ Janet 2.0 Active rocks > I vote AGAINST

DIS: Some Agoran thoughts

2023-07-01 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
1. I think... Agora is a game of politics more than it is of rules. The current politics of Agora, however, seem to favor textualism and the rules, however, to me at least, it is currently swaying back the other direction as dissidents speak their minds. 2. However, if it weren't for the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Convening the Thesis Review Board

2023-06-30 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 2:04 PM juan via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > 4st nomic via agora-discussion [2023-06-26 10:33]: > > As herald, I have ultimate control over this process. If someone's > > judgement is "preventative", then h

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Sorry!!!!

2023-06-26 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 12:01 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/25/23 02:44, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > > Sorry!!! This has to be contained somewhere > > > > I have to submit the following proposal: > > { > > Title: Secure Contain

Re: DIS: [Proto] Some are more equal v2

2023-06-26 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:31 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/26/23 13:20, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > > Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-06-26 13:08]: > >> "Why should this be in the rules?" is a valid question. Putting > >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Sorry!!!!

2023-06-26 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:51 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/26/23 12:35, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > >> Rule > >>> UNDEFINED is inevitable and unstoppable despite any appearance or event >

Re: DIS: [Proto] Some are more equal v2

2023-06-26 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:09 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/26/23 12:31, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > > Edward Murphy via agora-discussion [2023-06-25 13:56]: > >> Literally any explicit use case, even if it's just a suggestion in > >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Convening the Thesis Review Board

2023-06-26 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:24 AM juan via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > 4st nomic via agora-business [2023-06-25 00:11]: > > * If a player is selected, and a week passes without a verdict, e will be > > removed from the review board and it will be considered as a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Sorry!!!!

2023-06-26 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 2:14 PM juan via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > At the risk of ruining the fun, I'll just put this here if anyone is > confused: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCP_Foundation > > -- > juan > I don't think this spoils the fun: I think

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Sorry!!!!

2023-06-26 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 1:45 PM 4st nomic <4st.no...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:51 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 6/26/23 12:35, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: >> >&

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] High Scores

2023-06-16 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I thought the number of active players was 15? half of that, rounded down, is 7? Sorry, what is the right number of active players at the time that dream of sharing gave you radiance? On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 12:25 PM secretsnail9 via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > CoE:

DIS: Re: BUS: We need a Prime Minister! [attn. ADoP]

2023-06-23 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
(note that Murphy already initiated the election, so you join the existing election with candidates myself and juan) On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 8:58 AM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/13/23 18:40, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: > > "Things are

Re: DIS: (draft) (Self-Contained?) Time Shenanigans

2023-06-20 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 9:25 AM 4st nomic via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I am trying to figure out how to make "retroactive" instead of retroactive > changes, at least for certain scopes...! This is crazy to think about! I'm > posting as

DIS: (draft) (Self-Contained?) Time Shenanigans

2023-06-20 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I am trying to figure out how to make "retroactive" instead of retroactive changes, at least for certain scopes...! This is crazy to think about! I'm posting as a draft so it can undergo review. I will keep working thru this, but I do plan to eventually propose this if someone else doesn't first.

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Notary) A subgame about hats

2023-06-21 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 4:07 PM juan via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > juan via agora-business [2023-06-21 20:02]: > > 4st nomic via agora-business [2023-06-21 15:41]: > > > I create and join the following contract: > > > { > > > ==Wonderland== > > […] > > > } > > > > I

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4044 Assigned to 4st

2023-06-23 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 2:45 PM 4st nomic <4st.no...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 10:51 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-official < > agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> The below CFJ is 4044. I assign it to 4st. >> >> status: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#4044

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Geologist] shiny stuff

2024-01-22 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Just poking fun :) my reports were late which is the problem, despite their dependency. Didn't mean to chew you out at all! On Mon, Jan 22, 2024, 9:08 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 1/22/24 12:01, 4st nomic via agora-official wrote: > >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 9053-9057 [attn. Arbitor]

2024-02-14 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Counterarguments/Gratuitous arguments TRUE: > 1. Does text specify a rule change? > 2. If so, is it unambiguous what the text of the rule to be enacted is? > As to 1, the text makes no mention of a "rule", only "enact[ing]" > something. There is at least one thing other than a rule that can be >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) No Taxation Without Representation

2024-02-15 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 9:44 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 2/15/24 12:41, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > > I submit the following proposal: > > { > > Title: No Taxation Without Representation > > Adoption Index: 2.0 > > Author: 4st > >

Re: DIS: ranting about potential ruleset issue

2024-02-19 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 10:51 AM ais523 via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Mon, 2024-02-19 at 10:43 -0800, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > > fwiw, I plan to vote AGAINST any attempt to ratify the ruleset as the > > ruleset is curren

DIS: ranting about potential ruleset issue

2024-02-19 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
fwiw, I plan to vote AGAINST any attempt to ratify the ruleset as the ruleset is currently as if we had been playing "correctly" this whole time. As it currently stands, a vote FOR would be a vote to maintain the status quo that got the ruleset into its current predicament. The status quo is very

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Herald) Maze protocol

2023-12-12 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 11:23 AM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 12/11/23 14:53, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > > Comment: 1. is not restrictive, and permits flipping the activity switch > > for succeeding. > > Response: This is not the only

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Herald) Maze protocol

2023-12-12 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 3:40 PM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 12/12/23 16:42, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > > Similarly, creating and destroying a blot in the same message is a little > > "do nothing" thing

Re: DIS: Proto: Stamp Specialization v0.9

2023-12-31 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 11:13 AM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> Amend R2642, "Gathering Stones", to read in full: > >> > >> Grab Cost is an integer stone switch with default value 10, tracked > >> by the Stonemason. At the beginning of each week,

DIS: @collector @registrar

2023-12-10 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Hi Liz, and welcome! I grant Liz a welcome package. Don't spend your one stamp all in one place! (Joking!) You are now able to submit proposals, transfer your stamp, reach for stones, and push the boulder, among other things! Ask all the questions you like, we're s friendly bunch! On Sun, Dec

DIS: (draft) Emergent Gameplay?

2023-12-31 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
(Inspired somewhat by https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg43941.html but trying to tone it down to essentials for emergence of complex gameplay from simple rules) { The Knip is an ordered list of players. Morpts are a fungible asset. The Qander is a singleton integer

DIS: Re: BUS: Registering as player

2024-01-10 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 4:26 PM secretsnail9 via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > On Jan 10, 2024, at 6:17 PM, Mercury via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > Sorry for previous empty email, I hope it works this time > > Attempting to

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Dream Keeper, @Absurdor)

2024-01-10 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I have checked out wow I forgot you are a new player who should nominate emaelf for PM also! Woe On Wed, Jan 10, 2024, 9:02 PM Agora amdw42 via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I push the boulder and dream of wealth > > —— > Ben >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9035-9039

2023-11-28 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 11:08 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 11/28/23 08:56, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > > Janet Cobb via agora-business [2023-11-27 11:38]: > >> Consider a referendum on an AI 3 proposal A. Also consider a Rule X, > >>

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Degree Decision - "Snapshots" by snail

2023-12-05 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Ah, I misinterpreted the conversation, oops. I apologize, then, this is 100% on me; I was attempting to summarize the unofficial thoughts during the awarding attempt and I made an error. CoE accepted, but I don't know that I can really do much about it other than... this? lol :) On Tue, Dec 5,

DIS: Advent of Code

2023-12-01 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Agora has an unofficial Advent of Code, all are welcome to join nix: If you're not on it go to https://adventofcode.com/2023/leaderboard/private and use code 1035289-1f01749d -- 4ˢᵗ Uncertified Bad Idea Generator

DIS: Art Critique of "Snapshots" by Snail

2023-12-05 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I want to preface this that feelings are real, and are complicated. Sometimes we know things without knowing them, which is why I agree so whole-heartedly with snail and so desperately want em to earn a degree with this thesis. That being said, there is a lot of feeling here in this thesis.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Anarchist] (@Promotor) Anarchy

2023-12-01 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 3:42 PM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 12/1/23 17:15, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > > (See proposal 5794, submitted on October 14th, 2008) > > Uhm excuse me, but I am the anarchist, per R2486. > > -- > nix > > mmm, don't see

Re: DIS: Proto: Stamp Specialization v0.9

2023-11-22 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 2:48 PM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Enact a new rule titled "Stamp Specialization": > > Stamp Specialization is a player switch with potential values "None" > (default), "Any", "Selfsame", "Stone", and "Strength", tracked by

Re: DIS: Re: Intent to register

2024-01-28 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Yep you did just fine, welcoming is fast and loose; I just recommended players grant themselves welcome packages to have them use various rules from the get go. It didn't have to go to Agora business even :) On Sun, Jan 28, 2024, 3:28 PM Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion <

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Registrar) Intents to deactivate

2024-01-31 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I think you have to send a message on a public forum to negate it. Nothing in particular is needed in the message, just has to be on a public fora. On Wed, Jan 31, 2024, 12:34 PM Kiako via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 1/30/2024 5:28 PM, secretsnail9 via

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9053-9057

2024-01-31 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 3:03 PM Jimmy via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I vote FOR 9053 > I think this needs to be sent to agora-business? (yes the default "reply" option changes replies to agora-discussion) -- 4ˢᵗ Uncertified Bad Idea Generator

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9053-9057

2024-01-31 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 6:24 PM Maloney Agora via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I vote FOR 9054, 9055, and 9057. > I vote AGAINST 9053 and 9056. > I think this needs to be sent to agora-business? (yes the default "reply" option changes replies to agora-discussion)

DIS: Re: BUS: New Player Registration

2024-01-24 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Welcome! I recommend that you grant yourself a welcome package (that's effectively a stamp of your own type!) On Wed, Jan 24, 2024, 3:52 PM Maloney Agora via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > My name is Maloney (he/him), and I would like to register to be a player. >

Re: DIS: (@Promotor) Spreadsheet votes

2024-01-24 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
The spreadsheet is not actually used by the current Assessor (janet). I think it's appreciated to update it tho. On Wed, Jan 24, 2024, 4:12 PM Mercury via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I notice most players who voted recently haven't recorded eir votes in the >

DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Election update

2024-01-22 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
> > Prime Minister: Jimmy wins > "Jimmy, I demand to see some reductions in taxes!!! You have 1 week. Then... I will exercise my powers of Motion of No Confidence!!!" -- 4ˢᵗ Uncertified Bad Idea Generator

Re: DIS: Proto: A new economy

2023-11-19 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Fwiw I don't mind incentivizing change nor more blots. If what it takes to win becomes being a super goodie two shoes so be it On Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 9:29 PM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 11/18/23 11:49, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > > *

DIS: Re: (@Assessor, Stonemason) Re: BUS: [Prime Minister] State-sanctioned celebrations (for real)

2023-11-17 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I change my vote on that referendum to AGAINST. I vote AGAINST that referendum. On Fri, Nov 17, 2023, 3:39 AM ais523 via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 22:02 -0500, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > [Oops we forgot to get Royal Assent last

DIS: Re: BUS: [Prime Minister] State-sanctioned celebrations (for real)

2023-11-16 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I vote FOR also. (Not sure why we're doing this but let's go for it!) On Thu, Nov 16, 2023, 7:21 PM nix via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 11/16/23 21:10, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: > >>> On the above decision I vote FOR. > >>> > >> *sigh* > >> > >> On the

DIS: Re: (@Stonemason) BUS: Re: OFF: [Stonemason] Billboard Rock Chart - 12 Nov 2023

2023-11-12 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I reach for the anti-equatorial stone. On Sun, Nov 12, 2023, 11:28 AM ais523 via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Sun, 2023-11-12 at 14:21 -0500, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote: > > THE BILLBOARD ROCK CHART (STONEMASON'S WEEKLY REPORT) > > > > Stone

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4051 Assigned to snail

2023-11-12 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I support all intents below. On Sun, Nov 12, 2023, 9:27 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 11/13/23 00:26, nix via agora-business wrote: > > On 10/20/23 16:42, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > >> I self-file a motion to reconsider CFJ 4051, and

Re: DIS: [proto] Unforceability

2023-11-20 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
IMO: add to this list "sending a public message" On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 10:05 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > To address some of the holes that befell Agoran't: > > { > > Add (somewhere? enact a new rule? at power 2 or 3?): > > { > > A Rule that

Re: DIS: [proto] Unforceability

2023-11-20 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 10:05 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > To address some of the holes that befell Agoran't: > > { > > Add (somewhere? enact a new rule? at power 2 or 3?): > > { > > A Rule that purports to designate an action as "unforceable"

DIS: Re: [CFJ] (@arbitor) Re: BUS: Agoran't roles summary

2023-11-20 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Any player CAN judge this CFJ without 3 objections, given that our Arbitor is missing. Also... given the complexity of Agorant, and this CFJ, a well reasoned and explained judgement would probably be deserving of at least a J.N. Degree. (at least... in my opinion). Just to incentivize people! On

Re: DIS: [proto] Unforceability

2023-11-20 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 3:43 PM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 11/20/23 12:04, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > A Rule that purports to designate an action as "unforceable" thereby > > designates that a player NEED NOT comply with any provision

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Something completely obvious

2023-11-20 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 3:02 PM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 11/20/23 16:17, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > > Hi new players who haven't won yet! > > > > This probably won't work, but: > > > > I intend to, without objection, declare apathy,

Re: DIS: Proto: A new economy

2023-11-20 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 8:50 AM ais523 via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > * Democracy Gem (Assessor): As part of eir weekly duties, the Assessor > SHALL, and CAN by announcement, award 3 Change Gems to each player who > voted FOR on at least half the referenda that

DIS: [draft] (specifically @ Herald) Maze

2023-11-20 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
>From my recent in progress data analysis thesis, the y-intercept was about -0.64 awards. I hope that this little "tutorial" can help with that, and also help with "me new, what do" syndrome: { Herald Administrative Regulation MAZE A player CAN award emself the Patent Title "Rookie", if that

DIS: (drafts) LIME RIBBON LIME RIBBON

2023-11-21 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
(c'mon I worked hard to find all these! There's 5, and I only need 3 to pass to get a lil limey wimey!) { Title: Public Emergency Adoption Index: 3.1 Author: Co-author: 4st Amend Rule 2614 ("Eclipse Light") by replacing { An emergency message is one whose subject line contains the text

Re: DIS: (drafts) LIME RIBBON LIME RIBBON

2023-11-21 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 12:36 PM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 11/21/23 15:31, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > > { > > Title: Thanks Registrar! > > Adoption Index: 1.0 > > Author: > > Co-author: 4st &g

Re: DIS: [proto] Unforceability

2023-11-21 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I think it would be better to just explicitly list the options? I think informal agreements shouldn't be included as part of that list. "unless the provision merely requires em to abide by a contract, promise, or pledge to which e has consented." On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 1:04 PM Janet Cobb via

Re: DIS: [Proto] Multiple Dreams

2023-11-22 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 6:28 AM Goren Barak via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Title: Multiple Dreams > Author: Goren Barak > Adoption Index: 1 > Coathors: > Co-authors (spelling), and also, rude not to include Murphy, snail, and I. (snail had/remembered the idea,

Re: DIS: [Proto] Multiple Dreams

2023-11-22 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 7:00 AM 4st nomic <4st.no...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 6:28 AM Goren Barak via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> Title: Multiple Dreams >> Author: Goren Barak >> Adoption Index: 1 > > Also Adoption index needs to be at

Re: DIS: Recruiting Github Group Owners

2024-04-10 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Uh I'm not a player currently but it couldn't hurt? fjsweeney On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 9:13 AM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 4/9/24 12:27, nix via agora-discussion wrote: > > As you might know, we have a Github Group. Some of the officers use it > > to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Deregistration attempts

2024-04-16 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Deregistering players, fine But insisting on being a player but not doing much is a little confusing to me On Tue, Apr 16, 2024, 6:22 AM juan via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > 4st nomic via agora-discussion [2024-04-15 21:57]: > > I'm confused abou

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9087-9095

2024-04-18 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I think crystal poaching is fine: it's competitive teamwork! I've poached Janet for example. Perhaps coauthors need to be rewarded also? On Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 11:01 PM secretsnail9 via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > 9094~ snail, R. Lee 1.0 More

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Deregistration attempts

2024-04-15 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I'm confused about the reasoning behind doing this...? On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 1:17 PM Rose Strong via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I activate myself. > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 4:03 PM juan wrote: > > > As per rule 2646, for each of the following players, who have been

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJs 4075 and 4076

2024-04-30 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 9:52 AM 4st nomic via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I object. > Per Rule 2576 "Ownership", the asset goes into abeyance as soon as the > owner is ambiguous. > The owner becomes ambiguous at step 2, wherein we are n

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJs 4075 and 4076

2024-04-30 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 10:03 AM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 4/30/24 11:52, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > > I object. > > Per Rule 2576 "Ownership", the asset goes into abeyance as soon as the > > owner is ambiguous. > > The owner becomes

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJs 4075 and 4076

2024-04-30 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
iscussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Tue, 2024-04-30 at 09:52 -0700, 4st nomic via agora-discussion > wrote: > > I object. > > Per Rule 2576 "Ownership", the asset goes into abeyance as soon as the > > owner is ambiguous. > > The owner becomes ambi

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