DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] More than one way to skin a win

2017-09-14 Thread VJ Rada
ose doing so first coming earliest, followed by all players, not > included earlier, excluding Cuddlebeam and VJ Rada sorted from the earliest > registration to the latest. > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > > > >> On

Re: DIS: I found a serious mistake, again. Read the rules, folks.

2017-09-14 Thread VJ Rada
This is in rule 106, which by virtue of its earlier adoption, likely takes precedence over contradictory rules: it's power 3. On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:03 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: > "When a decision about whether to adopt a proposal is resolved, if the > o

DIS: I found a serious mistake, again. Read the rules, folks.

2017-09-14 Thread VJ Rada
"When a decision about whether to adopt a proposal is resolved, if the outcome is ADOPTED, then the proposal in question is adopted, and unless other rules prevent it from taking effect, its power is set to the minimum of four" Yep that's right. Minimum. -- >From V.J. Rada

DIS: Proposal: Add your typo fixes here

2017-09-14 Thread VJ Rada
Title: Minor fixes 2.0 AI: 3 In rule 2423, "First Among Equals", replace the text "The holder of the office of Prime Minister's voting strength is increased by 1 on all Agoran decisions other than a elections of the Prime Minister." with "The holder of the office of Prime Minister's voting

Re: DIS: Proposal: Add your typo fixes here

2017-09-14 Thread VJ Rada
we make the change to Rule 106 retroactive to avoid cleanup. >> >> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus >> p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com >> >> >> >>> On Sep 14, 2017, at 7:09 AM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Title: Min

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Severe email problems

2017-09-11 Thread VJ Rada
>I am still interested, but I would like to note to ais, that I did not receive >his original message to which you are replying. Same. I'm fine to judge if needed, although I strongly disclaim being reassigned 3555. On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Severe email problems

2017-09-11 Thread VJ Rada
i thought he meant arbitor bc we were discussing cfjs. yup, you are the assessor. On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Nic Evans <nich...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 09/11/17 22:04, VJ Rada wrote: >> the office is vacant, you can deputize at any time. > > Am I not asses

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Severe email problems

2017-09-11 Thread VJ Rada
> On Tue, 12 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote: >> >I am still interested, but I would like to note to ais, that I did not >> >receive his original message to which you are replying. >> >> Same. >> >> I'm fine to judge if needed, although I strongly disclaim

Re: DIS: Proposal: Add your typo fixes here

2017-09-14 Thread VJ Rada
p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >> Could we make the change to Rule 106 retroactive to avoid cleanup. >> >> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus >> p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com >> >> >> >>> On Sep 14, 2017, at

DIS: Unofficial Quasi Finger Point

2017-09-14 Thread VJ Rada
As I noticed yesterday, the PM is still not allowed to arbitrarily issue cards because "Executive orders" is lower power than "Cards". I draw the attention of the referee to my illegal card issuance to myself. I wish finger-pointing allowances were higher. -- >From V.J. Rada

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] You thought there was a lot of elections last time. Initiating 8 (!) elections.

2017-09-14 Thread VJ Rada
o talk about "whole votes", thus I am > going to ask; what did you mean by "count PRESENT as a whole vote"? > > 天火狐 > > On 14 September 2017 at 23:48, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> That's a conditional, which is totally different. G's

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] You thought there was a lot of elections last time. Initiating 8 (!) elections.

2017-09-14 Thread VJ Rada
A vote like: vote any player whose name begins w/ J, else PRESENT is just fine and presents no problems. On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 3:21 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: > I meant ban any vote like > 1. Jeff > 2. PRESENT. > > I would count that vote as just a vote for Jef

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] You thought there was a lot of elections last time. Initiating 8 (!) elections.

2017-09-14 Thread VJ Rada
; acceptable. This allows things like "I endorse A, unless eir vote indicates > preference for B, in which case my vote is PRESENT." > > 天火狐 > > On 14 September 2017 at 19:09, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> My current policy is to count PRESENT as a whol

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7876-7898 [sic]

2017-09-15 Thread VJ Rada
I haven't checked but I'm also pretty sure you could get rid of murphy. On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Josh T wrote: > NB: Bayushi has objected to them being deregistered on the 12th. > > 天火狐 > > > > > On 15 September 2017 at 17:52, Nic Evans

Re: DIS: Draft: CFJ 3555 judged FALSE

2017-09-16 Thread VJ Rada
Quazie's therefore the speaker. You're good, nichdel. Although the merits of having anyone apart from myself being able to use QAZ to veto any with notice, with agoran consent, with support or with objection action are questionable. On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 4:58 PM, Aris Merchant

Re: DIS: Draft: CFJ 3555 judged FALSE

2017-09-16 Thread VJ Rada
Agencies are with notice. Otherwise I agree. But now anyone can object to any change in any agency. On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 3:55 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > > On Sat, 16 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote: >> Quazie's therefore the speaker. You're go

DIS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Weekly Report

2017-09-20 Thread VJ Rada
>As Referee, I believe there are no outstanding rules violations in the >preceding Agoran week, for which a Card has not already been issued. I think you may have missed my missage to discussion called "unofficial quasi finger pointing". Although it would be illegal for you to issue me a card

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3552 Judged FALSE by o

2017-09-18 Thread VJ Rada
Lots of ?s that should be 's On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > status: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#3552 > (This document is informational only and contains no game actions). > > == CFJ 3552

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Resolving Elections: G is the Arbitor!

2017-09-21 Thread VJ Rada
s Scribonius Scholasticus > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > > > >> On Sep 21, 2017, at 2:56 AM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Re-accepting. >> >> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: >>> &

Re: DIS: Test

2017-09-22 Thread VJ Rada
me too. On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:43 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I received this. > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > > > >> On Sep 22, 2017, at 4:34 AM, Alex Smith

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registering

2017-09-23 Thread VJ Rada
forum shopping tbh. On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 8:23 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus <p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Why did you bar me and not o? > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > > > >> On

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registering

2017-09-23 Thread VJ Rada
t;o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: > >> On Sep 23, 2017, at 2:47 AM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I call a CFJ with the following statement: "The Green card o. issued >> emself in the below message was illegally issued, as the green card e >> issued nichdel w

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Frivolous but harmless scam attempt of the week: MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE

2017-09-23 Thread VJ Rada
Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 00:40 VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> "MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE" >> >> Honestly, you are the funniest Agoran player by far, just in pure >> gameplay terms. I object to the motion of no confidence. >> &g

Re: DIS: Economy and Games

2017-09-23 Thread VJ Rada
I think we need to encourage spending. People ignore the current agoran economy too much. People don't ignore the real economy because they need to eat. My vision is to have it be completely impossible to meaningfully participate without paying for it, thus forcing economic participation. I also

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Frivolous but harmless scam attempt of the week: MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE

2017-09-23 Thread VJ Rada
No no, I was just saying what I want to do or will do. That was not a formal statement of intent and it doesn't need to be. On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > > On Sat, 23 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote: >> I intend to use certiorari

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Metareport

2017-09-23 Thread VJ Rada
Quazie's tables were worse, so I assumed it didn't matter. I can make more of an effort next week. On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Ørjan Johansen <oer...@nvg.ntnu.no> wrote: > On Sat, 23 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > >> ===Metareport=== > > > Your tables are horribly m

Re: DIS: Economy and Games

2017-09-23 Thread VJ Rada
You can dereg and reset within a day, always. On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Nic Evans wrote: > On 09/23/2017 06:55 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > What fatal mistakes can a new player make? > > > Right now, since we lack a basic income or enough 'easy' rewards, new > players

DIS: Re: OFF: [Reportor] Agora Sky News, vol. 1

2017-09-20 Thread VJ Rada
Oh god I need to resolve those elections today. And I'm late on my ADoP report. ugh. On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 6:08 AM, Josh T wrote: > > = Agora Sky News >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Resolving Elections: G is the Arbitor!

2017-09-20 Thread VJ Rada
fine. On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Aris Merchant <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > You can, and probably should, resolve elections initiated in the same > message in the same message. > > -Aris > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 6:11 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gma

DIS: Special sneak peek at outcomes of elections, because I forgot to bring my computer at school.

2017-09-20 Thread VJ Rada
Outcomes=== Registrar: Nichdel (4-2 over PSS) Rulekeepor: Gaelan (unanimous) Surveyor: o (unanimous) Referee: o. (unanimous) Promotor: Aris (unanimous) Tailor: Quazie (with 1 vote cast for a player) Superintendent: Quazie (same as above) Congrats Quazie lmao.

DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Resolving Elections: G is the Arbitor!

2017-09-21 Thread VJ Rada
Tokens. > > On Thu, 21 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote: >> I resolve the agoran decision for the determination of the Arbitor. >> The quorum was 2.0, the valid options were the players etc etc. G wins >> with all 4 non-present votes. >> >> ===Votes=== >> Quazie:

DIS: Re: OFF: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Resolving Elections: G is the Arbitor!

2017-09-21 Thread VJ Rada
Re-accepting. On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > > Re-CoEing. > > On Thu, 21 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote: >> Resending to official. >> >> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 11:11 AM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com&

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Voting in other elections

2017-09-21 Thread VJ Rada
t; retract first, or later ballots didn't count. I'm not sure there's a > precedent that just saying "I vote..." works if you've already cast a > vote, although in this case maybe the parenthetical gives enough context...? > > (this is just "in theory", as already mentio

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Voting in other elections

2017-09-21 Thread VJ Rada
You're still the arbitor, obviously. On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:51 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry, I was much more on top oif it last week than this week. All of > that is noted. > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu>

Re: DIS: Special sneak peek at outcomes of elections, because I forgot to bring my computer at school.

2017-09-21 Thread VJ Rada
, 2017 at 19:04 Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: >> >> >> >> I voted for myself for Tailor. >> >> I don't think my vote affects any of the others. >> >> On Thu, 21 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote: >> > Outcomes=== >> >

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Make Your Home Shine

2017-09-14 Thread VJ Rada
And my pledge to make relevant titles and not steal anyone's person again. On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:39 AM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: > You might want to add nichdel's anti-cuddlebeam pledge. > > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wr

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Make Your Home Shine

2017-09-14 Thread VJ Rada
You might want to add nichdel's anti-cuddlebeam pledge. On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > Ugh, I missed a pledge, and I’m not sure that retroactive creation would > work. I withdraw the proposal “Make Your Home Shine” and submit the following > proposal

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Metareport

2017-09-13 Thread VJ Rada
Accepted, although that does not self-ratify I don't think. On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Josh T <draconicdarkn...@gmail.com> wrote: > CoE: I don't think I've held my office since August. > > 天火狐 > > On 13 September 2017 at 19:52, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Prime Minister] Speaker & Card

2017-09-13 Thread VJ Rada
us Scholasticus > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > > > >> On Sep 13, 2017, at 5:58 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Because we currently have no speaker if Cuddlebeam was not the >> speaker, and because e is in both sets of possible rece

Re: DIS: I found a serious mistake, again. Read the rules, folks.

2017-09-14 Thread VJ Rada
You're right, it was a rulekeepor typo. On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: > >> On Sep 14, 2017, at 7:03 AM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> "When a decision about whether to adopt a proposal is

DIS: Re: BUS: Apology take two

2017-09-13 Thread VJ Rada
in comments such as "not VJ Rada, e is a jerk and is not an agent" as made in a joking tone, I didn't realise until now my actions were genuinely hurtful. If I could, I would point the finger at myself for a guaranteed card. I will likely do so next week. On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 4:35 AM, Quazie

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] More than one way to skin a win

2017-09-14 Thread VJ Rada
I vote {G, o, ais523 if e is a candidate, myself} On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > >>==THEREFORE, BE IT HEREBY RESOLVED >> >> As Herald, I initiate a VICTORY ELECTION, a type of Agoran Decision. >> All players are

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] You thought there was a lot of elections last time. Initiating 8 (!) elections.

2017-09-14 Thread VJ Rada
not to public forum On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 8:56 AM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: > >> On Sep 13, 2017, at 7:22 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Please note the already ongoing election for agronomist. >> >> I initia

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] You thought there was a lot of elections last time. Initiating 8 (!) elections.

2017-09-14 Thread VJ Rada
My current policy is to count PRESENT as a whole vote. Endorse can't be a whole vote bc people keep saying things like "vote CB, else endorse G". My current policy is to count that vote as a list of {CB, all of G's votes in order except for the vote for CB, which is first} On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at

Re: DIS: I found a serious mistake, again. Read the rules, folks.

2017-09-14 Thread VJ Rada
sorry for not reading properly. On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 9:50 AM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: > ya my bad. obv that's the proposal's power not any rule's power anyways. > > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Gaelan Steele <gael...@icloud.com> wrote: >> Not

Re: DIS: I found a serious mistake, again. Read the rules, folks.

2017-09-14 Thread VJ Rada
ya my bad. obv that's the proposal's power not any rule's power anyways. On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Gaelan Steele <gael...@icloud.com> wrote: > Not even. Keep reading the rule. > >> On Sep 14, 2017, at 3:36 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Yo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Metareport

2017-09-14 Thread VJ Rada
ugh too late. I guess issue me a card, although I can't point a finger. On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: > >> On Sep 13, 2017, at 7:53 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I claim the reward for this. > &

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] You thought there was a lot of elections last time. Initiating 8 (!) elections.

2017-09-14 Thread VJ Rada
rote: >> >> On Sep 14, 2017, at 4:11 PM, grok (caleb vines) <grokag...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Sep 13, 2017 6:22 PM, "VJ Rada" <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Please note the already ongoing election for agronomist. >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] More than one way to skin a win

2017-09-14 Thread VJ Rada
"non-player persons can also become valid options during the voting period by announcement." I admit I don't know the history of this provision. But it seems to me this textually applies only when a non-player emself announces emself a valid option. On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Aris

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Deregistration

2017-10-05 Thread VJ Rada
4, 2017, at 10:56 PM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: >> >> >>> On Oct 5, 2017, at 1:44 AM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Without objection, I intend to deregister our longest standing player, >>> Murphy. >>>

DIS: Re: OFF: [Secretary] Weekly Report (rev. 1)

2017-10-04 Thread VJ Rada
" Date of last report: Tue, 26 Sep 2017" This is wrong, although it doesn't matter. On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > I deny the claim of error raised by VTMunn. > > I accept the claims of error raised by Aris, and publish the following > revision of the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Deregistration

2017-10-04 Thread VJ Rada
Ah yep, and Aris and Celestial Firefox are both from 2016. On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: > >> On Oct 5, 2017, at 1:44 AM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Without objection, I intend to deregister our lo

DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Election Time Extension

2017-10-05 Thread VJ Rada
I vote Alexis in the first election and PRESENT in the second. On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:11 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: > On the 27th, I initiated elections for Tailor and Assessor. I had the > quorum at 2.0 but it was actually 8.0, I was right the first time. The > inco

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3569 assigned to Alexis

2017-10-05 Thread VJ Rada
So uh let's self-ratify my ADoP report? Because every election I have ever resolved didn't work according to this. On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 5:44 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 at 19:00 Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> >> >> > I CFJ on the following

DIS: Re: OFF: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Election Time Extension

2017-10-05 Thread VJ Rada
They don't even count towards quorum. You need to make a definitive vote. On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:53 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: > Conditional votes do not work, see Alexis's latest CFJ. > > > On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Gaelan Steele <g...@canishe.com> w

DIS: Re: OFF: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Election Time Extension

2017-10-05 Thread VJ Rada
ng > Gaelan and PSS} > > Gaelan > >> On Oct 4, 2017, at 11:41 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I shame them, rather than shaning them. And what I meant was I issue >> them Humiliating Public Reminders. >> >> I also clarify tha

DIS: Idea: Regulations Impovement

2017-10-04 Thread VJ Rada
Title: Regulations for all Author: VJ Rada AI: 1 Create a power 1 rule called "Office Regulations" with the text {{The holder of an office may promulgate regulations regarding the performance of actions tracked by eir office or the performance of the office's duties. These regulations

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Election Time Extension

2017-10-05 Thread VJ Rada
, "Rubin Stacy" <reuben.sta...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Fine. Then let my vote be retracted and replaced with {PSS, G.}. Does that >> work? >> >> -- >> Trigon >> -- >> >> On Oct 5, 2017 1:04 AM, "VJ Rada" <vijar...@gm

Re: DIS: Dependent Action Question

2017-10-07 Thread VJ Rada
Yes, 96 hours. "4 days" is different (according to precendent) from "4 agoran days". On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > Does 4 days for a dependent action mean 96 hours, or something else? > > Gaelan -- >From V.J. Rada

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Superintendent] Weekly Report

2017-10-06 Thread VJ Rada
You are right, sorry. Self-ratification is probably the part of the ruleset I look at least and leave alone in case it eats me. It's a bit strange. On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Ørjan Johansen <oer...@nvg.ntnu.no> wrote: > On Thu, 5 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > >> Nothin

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3572 assigned to o

2017-10-08 Thread VJ Rada
I would like to specify that I did note take note of or understand those messages. I also do not know of any way to decrypt such messages, which distinguishes it from the "google translate:" precedent. On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 6:24 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > >> On Oct 8, 2017, at

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Another Economy Fix Attempt

2017-10-04 Thread VJ Rada
It is a real sort. "With T notice" is a type, and includes such things as agencies. On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2017-10-03 at 21:44 -0700, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> I create this proposal and pend it with AP: >> >> --- >> Name: Another

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Another Economy Fix Attempt

2017-10-04 Thread VJ Rada
Yup, the speaker can stop the amendment or creation of any agency. Quazie could have stopped me much easier. On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > Wait, the speaker can object to Notice? I’m not sure how I feel about that. > > On Oct 3, 2017, at 11:41 PM, Kerim

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Intent

2017-10-03 Thread VJ Rada
"Any protest from anyone about proposing 1 weekly report that contains full agency texts? It's not all that long..." As the superintendant, nope. Go for it. On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > Get shinies for proposing (and passing) rules that are valid

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Trouble with agencies

2017-10-03 Thread VJ Rada
stablishment, "G: Overlord of > Dunce"}} Don't worry about it affecting rules, it doesn't. On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Alex Smith <ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk> wrote: > On Thu, 2017-09-28 at 09:24 +0200, Ørjan Johansen wrote: >> On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, VJ Rada

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3568 assigned to o

2017-10-04 Thread VJ Rada
I would like to direct you to CFJ 3551 in which you indirectly held that "I COE this for no reason" was a valid CoE. On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > >> On Oct 3, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> >> >>> On Oct 1, 2017, at 3:13

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Repealing an ineffectual rule

2017-10-03 Thread VJ Rada
Voting strength was the first debuff > I could think of, as well as a very simple one to implement. This was a mean > proposal, and I was a mean person. Apologies. > > Gaelan > >> On Oct 3, 2017, at 2:54 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: >> >>

Re: DIS: PROTO: [Proposal] A Reward for Obedience

2017-10-14 Thread VJ Rada
Isn't that just 1/6 of a Victory Election? On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 12:18 PM, ATMunn . wrote: > Thanks, both of you, for your suggestions. I'm working on a revised version > at the moment. One idea I had, regarding what Alexis said about the idea of > players declaring

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Deregulation

2017-10-14 Thread VJ Rada
I haven't seen any sign of it making interesting gameplay thusfar: I would vote to repeal (unless a use is found for them, such as in the new contract proposal). Having said that: I agree with Aris. There has been no sign of them being especially dangerous, or any more dangerous than real legal

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 3575 judged TRUE

2017-10-15 Thread VJ Rada
So I'm paying someone a 10% commission to do what I tell them with my own money. Pretty good plan imo. On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 7:52 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: > Only if I reregister immediately. I'm basically trying to not have > Alexis steal all my money again

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 3575 judged TRUE

2017-10-15 Thread VJ Rada
Only if I reregister immediately. I'm basically trying to not have Alexis steal all my money again while still not tampering with my agency. On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Aris Merchant <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 11:23 PM, VJ Rada <vijar.

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7908-7921

2017-10-15 Thread VJ Rada
| A| F| A | P| P > | P| A| P| P| > |o | F| F| A| F| F| F| F| A | F| P > | F| A| P| F| > |PSS | F| F| A| F| F| F| F| A | F| F > | F| F| A| F| > |Trigon |

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7908-7921

2017-10-15 Thread VJ Rada
re in the > Decision phase. (I'll wait for more discussion before CFJing). > > > On Mon, 16 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: >> If anyone else wants to contradict me on what I think happens, go for it. >> >> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 8:39 AM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrot

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7908-7921

2017-10-15 Thread VJ Rada
ify that a decision started back when you said it > did (but with the new vote collector and all previous options as > present nominees), it could all be wrapped up this week. > > On Mon, 16 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: >> I intend to ratify the following without objection. It is wron

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7908-7921

2017-10-15 Thread VJ Rada
The election was validly initiated. It looks like for four hours or so that we're still in the Nomination Phase: and then if there is more than one candidate we'll go in an election, with the Assessor counting (hope you're ok with that added duty PSS) On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 7:24 AM, Kerim Aydin

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7908-7921

2017-10-15 Thread VJ Rada
a "checklist" google doc I plan to consult, if ADoP again haha. On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > > On Mon, 16 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: >> >By the rules of the time, the Decision was initiated correctly. >> >&

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7908-7921

2017-10-15 Thread VJ Rada
Lmao no I'm not ratifying a scam for Alexis here if I can help it. On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Sun, 15 Oct 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: >> I would possibly object to that, as I had a scam planned but didn't fire it >> as a result of the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgments of 3570-3571. (Was Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3571 assigned to Nichdel)

2017-10-15 Thread VJ Rada
t enable any >> abilities. The Superintendent's report does not self-ratify, so GOD >> wasn't ratified into existence until VJ Rada ratified a document >> asserting the existence of an agency that could be called GOD. > > -- >From V.J. Rada

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7908-7921

2017-10-15 Thread VJ Rada
I dunno. > > On Sun, 15 Oct 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> I will contradict you. If you asked the question "is a Decision ongoing >> for these elections" I'd say the answer would be yes. I think we're in the >> Decision phase. (I'll wait for more discussion before

Re: DIS: PROTO: [Proposal] A Reward for Obedience

2017-10-15 Thread VJ Rada
No I think that's an actually good proposal that provides a path to victory that might be conceivable while also incentivising strict rules enforcement. I would likely vote FOR it in its current form. Although that said, perhaps if this comes in Victory Elections should go, for in my opinion

DIS: Re: BUS: E•MO•TION

2017-10-15 Thread VJ Rada
>> On Oct 15, 2017, at 7:18 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> By the way, Hon. Rulekeepor: in the new emotions rule, "Registrar" >> should be capitalized. >> >> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 12:43 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.c

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7922-7929

2017-10-15 Thread VJ Rada
"The problem here is that deregistration without objection isn’t cuddlebeam-proof." I think you mean everyone-proof! Omd and Murphy can't be deregistered rn and that's 1/10 of the whole Supply level right there. On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > > >> On

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7922-7929

2017-10-15 Thread VJ Rada
also, nttpf On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 2:41 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: > "The problem here is that deregistration without objection isn’t > cuddlebeam-proof." > > I think you mean everyone-proof! Omd and Murphy can't be deregistered > rn and that's 1/10

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: E•MO•TION

2017-10-16 Thread VJ Rada
I checked it doesn't. Appears 17 times all correctly capitalized. At least in the last ruleset. On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 7:04 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2017-10-15 at 20:40 -0700, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> Ah, forgot that cleanup time could do that. I intend without

Re: DIS: Idea: Regulations Impovement

2017-10-05 Thread VJ Rada
u, Oct 5, 2017 at 11:13 PM, Alexis Hunt <aler...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 5, 2017, 01:33 VJ Rada, <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Title: Regulations for all >> Author: VJ Rada >> AI: 1 >> Create a power 1 rule called "Office Regulations&

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3569 assigned to Alexis

2017-10-05 Thread VJ Rada
ya the resolutions are anyways. On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 11:04 PM, Alexis Hunt <aler...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 5, 2017, 02:38 VJ Rada, <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> So uh let's self-ratify my ADoP report? Because every election I have >&

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3563 assigned to G. (Gaelan recused)

2017-10-13 Thread VJ Rada
g money is _rude_” about the original Shinies proposal. >> > >> >> > >> I’m not sure I fully appreciated Spending Power while we had it. The >> > >> debate >> > >> and adoption predates me. I’ve long had a fascination with >> >

Re: DIS: Looking to pick up an office, maybe

2017-10-13 Thread VJ Rada
If you want Registrar, you can initiate an election for the position right now and stand for it. I don't know wheter PSS approves, e certainly wants to retain that position. But if you want to try for it, go for it. On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 11:41 AM, ATMunn . wrote: > I

Re: DIS: Semi-final draft: Contracts v3

2017-10-14 Thread VJ Rada
". E NEED NOT follow any regulation constraining em to take or not to take some action with to eir regulations," Not sure what "with to eir regulations means", is it missing a "regards"? On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:02 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote:

Re: DIS: Semi-final draft: Contracts v3

2017-10-14 Thread VJ Rada
fact that's the only useful use of agencies I can ever recall. However these rules prohibit "modifying the performance of" "performing any official duty", which would stop that use. Has o. agreed to be the notary? I presume so. On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:03 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@g

Re: DIS: Semi-final draft: Contracts v3

2017-10-14 Thread VJ Rada
" An asset or class of assets is private, rather than public, if it's backing document is a contract." There should be no apostrophe in "it's". Sorry for spamming six messages in a row, I should have put these all in one message. On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:12 PM, VJ Rada

Re: DIS: Semi-final draft: Contracts v3

2017-10-14 Thread VJ Rada
"Parties can leave a contract by announcement, ceasing being parties, if the contract permits the to do so." This should be "if the contract permits them to do so" On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > I like this. Slight spelling fix, though: in

Re: DIS: Semi-final draft: Contracts v3

2017-10-14 Thread VJ Rada
"An asset is an entity defined as such by a (a) rule," The current rules use the term "the ruleset" here for good reason. This amendment would bring back the debates as to whether Shinies are an asset etc. It should say "the ruleset" On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:11 P

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Secretary] Weekly Report (revision 2)

2017-10-11 Thread VJ Rada
Rada paid 26 shinies for > eir stamp. > > > On 10/11/2017 12:54 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> >> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 3:46 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> CoE: Between your last report and this one, I bought a stamp from >>>

Re: DIS: Draft: Crime Improvements v2

2017-10-11 Thread VJ Rada
If you're looking for an easy scam, I have just the agency for you... On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 6:57 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > *gasps for air* > > random message to keep self alive > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Alex Smith > wrote: >> >> On

Re: DIS: Proto: Revision Limits

2017-10-13 Thread VJ Rada
Yeah I would vote for a proposal that used ais's second fix, preventing officers from getting rewards the next week. On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 6:28 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > I'm opposed to a debt system, but the first ways you suggested would work > better and be more

DIS: Re: BUS: [Prop] Proletarian Revolution

2017-09-09 Thread VJ Rada
Doesn't this incentivise not having any money and spending all you get quickly on other things? Huh, working as intended then I guess. On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 4:43 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > On an alternate email address due to technical issues. > > I create the following

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Card Reform and Expansion v2

2017-09-09 Thread VJ Rada
urred or that it would be ILLEGAL to issue a Card for it, announcing the Finger Pointing to be Shenanigans." You have to do both. Every time you dismissed a finger, you broke this rule. On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 5:40 PM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: > >> On Sep 9, 2017, a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Card Reform and Expansion v2

2017-09-09 Thread VJ Rada
moire.ca> wrote: >> >> >> > On Sep 9, 2017, at 3:46 AM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > "When a player Points a Finger, the investigator SHALL investigate the >> > allegation and, in a timely fashion, SHALL conclude the investigation >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Yellow Card to Superintendent

2017-09-10 Thread VJ Rada
Ooh ooh I could issue everyone but myself a yellow card JUST before resolving these elections! That would be a fun way to sew up the PM election. On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 2:51 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: > I believe everyone has authority. Reading the rules, there'

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