Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Perfect Failure Detection

2015-08-19 Thread woggle
On 08/19/15 23:30, Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2015-08-19 at 04:34 +0000, woggle wrote: >> WHEREAS the yoyo mailing list appears to have died, and >> >> WHEREAS the only way to be sure it is dead is to kill it yourself, >> >> I intend, without objection, to c

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2014-10-19 Thread woggle
On 10/19/14 16:56, Eritivus wrote: > On Sun, 2014-10-19 at 16:45 +0000, woggle wrote: >> This information is not self-ratifying. The list of players registered is as >> a >> result of R2162(c). > > Ah, I see. I mistakenly thought that all information required

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2014-10-19 Thread woggle
27;s 11 Oct report failed. > > Arguments: > > The Registrar's 11 Oct report did not include me on the player > list. woggle implicitly claims that the minimal gamestate modification > of ratification is my retroactive deregistration. > > However, The Registrar's report also in

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Registrar] Corrected Registrar's Report

2014-08-31 Thread woggle
On 08/31/14 22:45, Luis Ressel wrote: > On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 22:33:13 + > woggle wrote: > >> Rule 2160/12 (Power=3) >> Deputisation >> >> [...] >> >> When a player deputises for an elected office, e becomes the >> holder o

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Registrar] Corrected Registrar's Report

2014-08-31 Thread woggle
On 08/31/14 22:26, Luis Ressel wrote: > On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 22:12:02 + > woggle wrote: > >> - woggle, Registrar and Clerical Error Generator > > I'd appreciate some clarification here. In yesterday's Registrar Report > you referred to yourself as a Depu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Speaker] CFJ 3400 assigned to woggle

2014-02-22 Thread woggle
changes. These questions have clear answers if Agora were to "cease to exist". [1] The definition would presumably cease to be effective, but, fortunately, we're checking the definition at a time when it is clearly effective. - woggle

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Speaker] CFJ 3400 assigned to woggle

2014-02-14 Thread woggle
d a win, it does not have the > power to override the common-sense meanings of the words. How does it have the power to award a win? If "awarding a win" common-sense-meaning-implied "ending the game", then R2419 would be of insufficient power to do it. - woggle

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3380 assigned to woggle

2013-08-31 Thread woggle
der they appear in the message, unless otherwise specified. [1] It would be reasonable to disregard such a server's timestamps, but we would have no way of reliably detecting when to do so. - woggle > > Caller: ais523 > > Judge:

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Horton] Promise Report

2013-08-17 Thread woggle
On 8/15/13 14:49 , Ørjan Johansen wrote: > On Sat, 10 Aug 2013, woggle wrote: > >> HORTON'S WEEKLY REPORT >> >> Date of this report: 2013-08-10 >> Date of last report: 2013-08-03 >> >>

Re: DIS: Proto: Players' Guide

2013-08-07 Thread woggle
You should point out that you can recuse yourself from any case for free. [snip] > Most officers have a weekly or monthly report which they publish to and/or? > agora-official so that everyone knows what is going on in their part > of the gamestate. > [snip] > > If the holder of an office becomes inactive or deregisters, anyone can > assume the office and start performing its duties. Suggest citing Rule 2276 here. [snip] - woggle

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement in R. v. everyone but Fool, CFJ 3381

2013-08-03 Thread woggle
n asked about this. Alex Smith suggested that I had until the controversy > was settled to dispose of my dictatorship. Is that not tradition? Is the > controversy settled then? You can purportedly keep your dictatorship without purportedly preventing the normal play of Agora from continuing. - woggle

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Horton] Promise Report

2013-06-23 Thread woggle
refer to things like "Berks" which I take it are obsolete.) Yes; we are due for some more Promise cleanup. As for Berks, "Berks" are the title of that promise. - woggle

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3339 assigned to woggle. Good luck.

2013-06-23 Thread woggle
On 6/23/13 16:25 , Tanner Swett wrote: > On Jun 23, 2013, at 2:29 PM, woggle wrote: >> I judge CFJ 3339 FALSE. >> >> ... >> >> It has been generally uncontroverisal to resolve conflicts in rules and >> similar documents not handled using the usual precede

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3333 assigned to G.

2013-06-11 Thread woggle
On 6/11/13 12:35 , Sean Hunt wrote: > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:25 PM, woggle wrote: >> On 6/10/13 11:01 , Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 9 Jun 2013, Ed Murphy wrote: >>>> == CFJ =

DIS: Re: BUS: A New Precedence

2013-05-27 Thread woggle
idn't mean to used earliest precedence on two numbered rules. - woggle

DIS: Re: BUS: How to possibly win by paradox without really trying

2013-05-25 Thread woggle
!!!" with notice. I think R2166 permits you to destroy this promise (since you are its owner) by announcement. Incidentally, this would also simplify that CFJ. - woggle

Re: DIS: Re: BAK: [Rulekeepor] Short Logical Ruleset

2013-05-07 Thread woggle
On 5/7/13 10:59 , Charles Walker wrote: > On 5 May 2013, at 15:44, woggle wrote: >> Rule 2141/6 (Power=3) >> Role and Attributes of Rules > [...] >> Every rule has power between one and four inclusive. It is >> not possible for a rule to h

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Playing with fire

2013-04-15 Thread woggle
nambigiuous. I'm pretty sure that there have been proposals that have copied text from rules into other rules; it's hard to see how copying text from promises is substantially different. - woggle

DIS: Re: BUS: Playing with fire

2013-04-15 Thread woggle
ule to amend rule by replacing its text with the text of the promise titled that I created at least four and not more than five days before resolving this intent. - I intend, without 3 objections, to cause rule ZZZZ to repeal the rule with lowest ID number among rules with power

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Of potatoes and boats

2013-04-09 Thread woggle
; nix any jump (e.g. "replace any occurrence of scshunt in the > ruleset with...") while not violating R105's "any unambiguity" > clause, but then maybe e'd change eir nickname (and the nickname > in the rule)... and so it goes. Perhaps secure rule changes at power 1.1? - woggle

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Liquid!

2013-04-02 Thread woggle
>> >> VVLOP is defined in Rules 2389-2390. > > Well, yeah. However, what does VVLOP *mean*? VCs are Voting Credits, > but what are VVLOPs? I think that's what was meant by "VVLOP doesn't > officially stand for anything". It used to abbreviate "volatile voting limit on ordinary proposals". - woggle

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7338–7339 (again), 7349–7350

2013-02-22 Thread woggle
> 7350 1.5 Ordinary G. Justice Fix FOR - woggle

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Return of Wes

2013-01-29 Thread woggle
por's report... > > There's a recent FLR (January 23). The online versions of the ruleset > are out of date, but the email version is within the expected time > limit. Re: "the online versions", comex's are out of date (AFAIK), but see https://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~charles/agora/ . - woggle

DIS: Re: BUS: Golem cleanup

2013-01-20 Thread woggle
On 1/20/13 2:33 PM, John Smith wrote: > I cause BuckyBot to ask all the first class players to object to its > destruction. BuckyBot is eligible to object to this intent directly per R2360. - woggle > > --

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2011-08-07 Thread woggle
t;> Agora agora-busin...@agoranomic.org 23 Jul 11 >> CoE: The name of this agreement is this sentence. is a player. > > It is? Well, it's probably dependent on the resolution of a CFJ omd made, but it at least deserves some mention in your report. - woggle signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

DIS: Re: BUS: Agreement

2011-07-30 Thread woggle
On 7/30/11 8:20 PM, omd wrote: > On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 11:00 PM, woggle wrote: >> I create a Promise in my own possession with the following text and no >> conditions and immediately cash it: "This is a message sent on behalf >> of The name of this agreement is this

Re: DIS: Proto: Abercrombie and Fitch

2011-06-05 Thread woggle
y that this "first harvest" only applies to proposal harvests. Same for Lawyer, Surveyor, etc. Also 1 more per digit or 1 more total? [snip] - woggle signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: hrm

2011-06-03 Thread woggle
sence of a rule defining "take effect", per R754, we are to use the mathematical, legal, or ordinary-language definition of the term. Although this certainly should be more explicit in the rules, I think the ordinary-language or legal definition of take effect does not break the game. - w

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2011-05-30 Thread woggle
On 5/30/11 2:59 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: > --040006000107010606030609 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oops. Not sure how "compose messages in HTML format" got checked in my email preferences. - wogg