Re: Cheap first wins (Re: DIS: Clairvoyant Roshambo)

2019-08-03 Thread James Cook
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019 at 21:04, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Actually, I wonder if we should think about some kind of "debugging" > mechanism for victories. Something like "when a win method is first > implemented (some mechanism, probably involving Agoran Consent, for > figuring out whether the first win

Re: Cheap first wins (Re: DIS: Clairvoyant Roshambo)

2019-08-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 2:14 PM Jason Cobb wrote: > How exactly would the Rules specify different methods of victory? I've > seen that Victory Conditions were a thing in the past, but they don't > exist any more. It's ultimately up to the Herald's discretion and some degree of consensus, but the

Re: Cheap first wins (Re: DIS: Clairvoyant Roshambo)

2019-08-02 Thread ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk
On Fri, 2019-08-02 at 14:56 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 2:17 PM ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk > wrote: > > A bug exploit could /be/ a win as intended, if the bug had been > > placed there intentionally by the proposer. "Convince people to > > adopt a buggy victory condition and

Re: Cheap first wins (Re: DIS: Clairvoyant Roshambo)

2019-08-02 Thread nch
On 8/2/19 4:56 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 2:17 PM ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote: A bug exploit could /be/ a win as intended, if the bug had been placed there intentionally by the proposer. "Convince people to adopt a buggy victory condition and win immediately" is one of

Re: Cheap first wins (Re: DIS: Clairvoyant Roshambo)

2019-08-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 2:17 PM ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote: > A bug exploit could /be/ a win as intended, if the bug had been placed > there intentionally by the proposer. "Convince people to adopt a buggy > victory condition and win immediately" is one of the more common > winning techniques

Re: Cheap first wins (Re: DIS: Clairvoyant Roshambo)

2019-08-02 Thread ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk
On Fri, 2019-08-02 at 14:02 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Actually, I wonder if we should think about some kind of "debugging" > mechanism for victories. Something like "when a win method is first > implemented (some mechanism, probably involving Agoran Consent, for > figuring out whether the first

Re: Cheap first wins (Re: DIS: Clairvoyant Roshambo)

2019-08-02 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/2/19 5:02 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: Fair point, and it's a matter of preference. This just seemed a bit experimental for a full win mechanism to me. Actually, I wonder if we should think about some kind of "debugging" mechanism for victories. Something like "when a win method is first