Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder
How did you get the software? or did you have it from an earlyer DM recorder? The LSs for what ever reason don't come with that software. Only the DM's do and the DSs did too. Yeah I knew the PTR2 woulda died off at some point. I like I said before was so pleasently surprised to see 1 once again in 2013. If only it didn't have the 6 gig limit for compact flash cards and the interface limits for the cards it would stil be good. There are such things as 128 gig compact flash cards. Then they also have some fast spead thing that Sound Devices recorders support. On 12/24/2017 5:22 PM, Aidan wrote: I just use the sinority software to sync the pc date and time on the 14. As for ptr2, I love that machine, but unfortunetly, plextalk really have to keep up with times and they should think of supporting newer stuff as well. Why don't they take the pocket for example and then make it able to record on cd directly by means of a external USB dvd drive? Everyone have it or can obtain it. And pocket ptp1 is cheaper and stil available. I fear that ptn2 can also go as the hardware is no longer available for aph bookport models. On 24/12/2017, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well I guess I write this too little too late. But, as far as accessibility goes you got the most accessible 1 at this point. Look at it this way. Do you use mikes with XLR? Do you need phantum power? Do you need those big thumb sized jacks that some 90s headphones had? or that electric guitars I guess still have? Will you produce music? Like a DR Drey? I ask all this as a long way to ask do you need something like a Zoom? Because if no then yeah sure you missed out on better quality, but meh you saved loads of cash. Just remember my earlier warning. The recordings though real good and real crisp will sound little. If things sounding little doesn't bother you then actually you got the better 1 accessibility wise. You can now set the clock and stuff on your own on this 1. On the 100 and even the 14 you would need a sighted person to do it. On 12/24/2017 5:37 AM, Merv Keck wrote: I just ordered myself the LS P2 today. I was tempted to get the LS 100 but couldn't find anyone to satisfy my curiosity about its accessibility and performance versus the LS P2. So I opted for the one that cost less. I do hope to use it for both live voice and music recording though. Merv -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of rsnel...@optusnet.com.au Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 1:25 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder Tom, I reaalise that it is difficult to keep pace with the developments in technology but what we thought was fantastic technology 10 years ago is now very ordinary. For Olympus digital audio recorders, take a look at the following web page: https://www.olympus.com.au/Products/Digital-Audio-Recorders/Business.aspx Under the heading "digital audio recorders" you will see the various categories of digital recorders. For example, under the heading of "business" you will see the DM-720 which is the current equivalent of your old recorder. What is not obvious is that all of these recorders have the same core technology and just have different user interfaces to make them more usable for different classes of people. That is to say, user interfaces for the sound and field recorders (the LS series) is designed for people making high fidelity recordings. The interfaces for notetaker devices or business devices are designed for dictation or recording meetings. Therefore, a DM-720 business recorder will be good for dictation and meetings but, even though it has the digital technology to do so, it will not make it convenient to record live music. By the way, if you take the time to look, the LS-100, LS-14, LS-12 and LS-P2 are all shown as current models. Bob Nelson -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 9:22 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder Bob and list: So this kind of brings me to the question I should have asked: what is the actual replacement for the Olympus DS-40 or Olympus DS-50? From what I've heard about the PS-2 (not sure I have that right) am sure it is a fine unit; it just might be a little more machine than I really need; hard to tell for sure at this point! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of rsnel...@optusnet.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 5:40 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder If you look around, you can still find an LS-14. I purchased a brand new one as recently as 6 weeks ago. However, you may find it cheaper and just as good, quality wise, to purchase an LS-P2. The LS-P2 has the voice guidance fo
Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder
Ah okay. Well apparently the multy track stuff and over dub is sorta kinda usable on the 100. But if you like me get thrown off easely without speach and loos track of what's happening it may not be useable enough. I'd try 1 before getting 1. Who knows save up the money for future and maybe Olympus might make something like the Zoom H6 that is maybe even more accessible then the LS-P2 and the DM720. On 12/24/2017 8:57 PM, Merv Keck wrote: When I had sight up until about two years ago I used various multi-track recorders and mixers. I no longer have any of those. I also sold all of my guitars and basses except one. But I am hoping to eventually get back to recording again if I find a suitable solution in the future. Merv -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 11:56 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder Ah well I guess I write this too little too late. But, as far as accessibility goes you got the most accessible 1 at this point. Look at it this way. Do you use mikes with XLR? Do you need phantum power? Do you need those big thumb sized jacks that some 90s headphones had? or that electric guitars I guess still have? Will you produce music? Like a DR Drey? I ask all this as a long way to ask do you need something like a Zoom? Because if no then yeah sure you missed out on better quality, but meh you saved loads of cash. Just remember my earlier warning. The recordings though real good and real crisp will sound little. If things sounding little doesn't bother you then actually you got the better 1 accessibility wise. You can now set the clock and stuff on your own on this 1. On the 100 and even the 14 you would need a sighted person to do it. On 12/24/2017 5:37 AM, Merv Keck wrote: I just ordered myself the LS P2 today. I was tempted to get the LS 100 but couldn't find anyone to satisfy my curiosity about its accessibility and performance versus the LS P2. So I opted for the one that cost less. I do hope to use it for both live voice and music recording though. Merv -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of rsnel...@optusnet.com.au Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 1:25 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder Tom, I reaalise that it is difficult to keep pace with the developments in technology but what we thought was fantastic technology 10 years ago is now very ordinary. For Olympus digital audio recorders, take a look at the following web page: https://www.olympus.com.au/Products/Digital-Audio-Recorders/Business.a spx Under the heading "digital audio recorders" you will see the various categories of digital recorders. For example, under the heading of "business" you will see the DM-720 which is the current equivalent of your old recorder. What is not obvious is that all of these recorders have the same core technology and just have different user interfaces to make them more usable for different classes of people. That is to say, user interfaces for the sound and field recorders (the LS series) is designed for people making high fidelity recordings. The interfaces for notetaker devices or business devices are designed for dictation or recording meetings. Therefore, a DM-720 business recorder will be good for dictation and meetings but, even though it has the digital technology to do so, it will not make it convenient to record live music. By the way, if you take the time to look, the LS-100, LS-14, LS-12 and LS-P2 are all shown as current models. Bob Nelson -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 9:22 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder Bob and list: So this kind of brings me to the question I should have asked: what is the actual replacement for the Olympus DS-40 or Olympus DS-50? From what I've heard about the PS-2 (not sure I have that right) am sure it is a fine unit; it just might be a little more machine than I really need; hard to tell for sure at this point! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of rsnel...@optusnet.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 5:40 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder If you look around, you can still find an LS-14. I purchased a brand new one as recently as 6 weeks ago. However, you may find it cheaper and just as good, quality wise, to purchase an LS-P2. The LS-P2 has the voice guidance for the menus and is, to all intents and purposes, the replacement for the LS-14. It is, however, physically smaller than the LS-14 but it is particularly
Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder
When I had sight up until about two years ago I used various multi-track recorders and mixers. I no longer have any of those. I also sold all of my guitars and basses except one. But I am hoping to eventually get back to recording again if I find a suitable solution in the future. Merv -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 11:56 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder Ah well I guess I write this too little too late. But, as far as accessibility goes you got the most accessible 1 at this point. Look at it this way. Do you use mikes with XLR? Do you need phantum power? Do you need those big thumb sized jacks that some 90s headphones had? or that electric guitars I guess still have? Will you produce music? Like a DR Drey? I ask all this as a long way to ask do you need something like a Zoom? Because if no then yeah sure you missed out on better quality, but meh you saved loads of cash. Just remember my earlier warning. The recordings though real good and real crisp will sound little. If things sounding little doesn't bother you then actually you got the better 1 accessibility wise. You can now set the clock and stuff on your own on this 1. On the 100 and even the 14 you would need a sighted person to do it. On 12/24/2017 5:37 AM, Merv Keck wrote: > I just ordered myself the LS P2 today. I was tempted to get the LS 100 but > couldn't find anyone to satisfy my curiosity about its accessibility and > performance versus the LS P2. So I opted for the one that cost less. I do > hope to use it for both live voice and music recording though. > Merv > > > -Original Message- > From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of > rsnel...@optusnet.com.au > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 1:25 AM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus > DS-40Recorder > > > Tom, > > I reaalise that it is difficult to keep pace with the developments in > technology but what we thought was fantastic technology 10 years ago is now > very ordinary. > > For Olympus digital audio recorders, take a look at the following web page: > https://www.olympus.com.au/Products/Digital-Audio-Recorders/Business.a > spx > > Under the heading "digital audio recorders" you will see the various > categories of digital recorders. For example, under the heading of > "business" you will see the DM-720 which is the current equivalent of your > old recorder. > > What is not obvious is that all of these recorders have the same core > technology and just have different user interfaces to make them more usable > for different classes of people. > > That is to say, user interfaces for the sound and field recorders (the LS > series) is designed for people making high fidelity recordings. The > interfaces for notetaker devices or business devices are designed for > dictation or recording meetings. > > Therefore, a DM-720 business recorder will be good for dictation and meetings > but, even though it has the digital technology to do so, it will not make it > convenient to record live music. > > By the way, if you take the time to look, the LS-100, LS-14, LS-12 and LS-P2 > are all shown as current models. > > Bob Nelson > > > -Original Message- > From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of > Tom Kaufman > Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 9:22 AM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus > DS-40Recorder > > Bob and list: So this kind of brings me to the question I should have asked: > what is the actual replacement for the Olympus DS-40 or Olympus DS-50? From > what I've heard about the PS-2 (not sure I have that right) am sure it is a > fine unit; it just might be a little more machine than I really need; hard to > tell for sure at this point! > Tom Kaufman > > -Original Message- > From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of > rsnel...@optusnet.com.au > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 5:40 PM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus > DS-40Recorder > > > If you look around, you can still find an LS-14. I purchased a brand new one > as recently as 6 weeks ago. > > However, you may find it cheaper and just as good, quality wise, to purchase > an LS-P2. > > The LS-P2 has the voice guidance for the menus and is, to all intents and > purposes, the replacement for the LS-14. > > It is, however, physically smaller than the LS-14 but it is particularly good > for live recording. > > Bob Nelson > > > > -Original Message- > From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of > vinny Samarco > Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 8:07 AM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus > DS-
Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder
I just use the sinority software to sync the pc date and time on the 14. As for ptr2, I love that machine, but unfortunetly, plextalk really have to keep up with times and they should think of supporting newer stuff as well. Why don't they take the pocket for example and then make it able to record on cd directly by means of a external USB dvd drive? Everyone have it or can obtain it. And pocket ptp1 is cheaper and stil available. I fear that ptn2 can also go as the hardware is no longer available for aph bookport models. On 24/12/2017, Hamit Campos wrote: > Ah well I guess I write this too little too late. But, as far as > accessibility goes you got the most accessible 1 at this point. Look at > it this way. Do you use mikes with XLR? Do you need phantum power? Do > you need those big thumb sized jacks that some 90s headphones had? or > that electric guitars I guess still have? Will you produce music? Like a > DR Drey? I ask all this as a long way to ask do you need something like > a Zoom? Because if no then yeah sure you missed out on better quality, > but meh you saved loads of cash. Just remember my earlier warning. The > recordings though real good and real crisp will sound little. If things > sounding little doesn't bother you then actually you got the better 1 > accessibility wise. You can now set the clock and stuff on your own on > this 1. On the 100 and even the 14 you would need a sighted person to do > it. > > > On 12/24/2017 5:37 AM, Merv Keck wrote: >> I just ordered myself the LS P2 today. I was tempted to get the LS 100 but >> couldn't find anyone to satisfy my curiosity about its accessibility and >> performance versus the LS P2. So I opted for the one that cost less. I do >> hope to use it for both live voice and music recording though. >> Merv >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of >> rsnel...@optusnet.com.au >> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 1:25 AM >> To: all-audio@groups.io >> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder >> >> >> Tom, >> >> I reaalise that it is difficult to keep pace with the developments in >> technology but what we thought was fantastic technology 10 years ago is >> now very ordinary. >> >> For Olympus digital audio recorders, take a look at the following web >> page: >> https://www.olympus.com.au/Products/Digital-Audio-Recorders/Business.aspx >> >> Under the heading "digital audio recorders" you will see the various >> categories of digital recorders. For example, under the heading of >> "business" you will see the DM-720 which is the current equivalent of your >> old recorder. >> >> What is not obvious is that all of these recorders have the same core >> technology and just have different user interfaces to make them more >> usable for different classes of people. >> >> That is to say, user interfaces for the sound and field recorders (the LS >> series) is designed for people making high fidelity recordings. The >> interfaces for notetaker devices or business devices are designed for >> dictation or recording meetings. >> >> Therefore, a DM-720 business recorder will be good for dictation and >> meetings but, even though it has the digital technology to do so, it will >> not make it convenient to record live music. >> >> By the way, if you take the time to look, the LS-100, LS-14, LS-12 and >> LS-P2 are all shown as current models. >> >> Bob Nelson >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom >> Kaufman >> Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 9:22 AM >> To: all-audio@groups.io >> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder >> >> Bob and list: So this kind of brings me to the question I should have >> asked: what is the actual replacement for the Olympus DS-40 or Olympus >> DS-50? From what I've heard about the PS-2 (not sure I have that right) >> am sure it is a fine unit; it just might be a little more machine than I >> really need; hard to tell for sure at this point! >> Tom Kaufman >> >> -Original Message- >> From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of >> rsnel...@optusnet.com.au >> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 5:40 PM >> To: all-audio@groups.io >> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder >> >> >> If you look around, you can still find an LS-14. I purchased a brand new >> one as recently as 6 weeks ago. >> >> However, you may find it cheaper and just as good, quality wise, to >> purchase an LS-P2. >> >> The LS-P2 has the voice guidance for the menus and is, to all intents and >> purposes, the replacement for the LS-14. >> >> It is, however, physically smaller than the LS-14 but it is particularly >> good for live recording. >> >> Bob Nelson >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of vinny >> Samarco >> Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 8:
Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder
Ah well I guess I write this too little too late. But, as far as accessibility goes you got the most accessible 1 at this point. Look at it this way. Do you use mikes with XLR? Do you need phantum power? Do you need those big thumb sized jacks that some 90s headphones had? or that electric guitars I guess still have? Will you produce music? Like a DR Drey? I ask all this as a long way to ask do you need something like a Zoom? Because if no then yeah sure you missed out on better quality, but meh you saved loads of cash. Just remember my earlier warning. The recordings though real good and real crisp will sound little. If things sounding little doesn't bother you then actually you got the better 1 accessibility wise. You can now set the clock and stuff on your own on this 1. On the 100 and even the 14 you would need a sighted person to do it. On 12/24/2017 5:37 AM, Merv Keck wrote: I just ordered myself the LS P2 today. I was tempted to get the LS 100 but couldn't find anyone to satisfy my curiosity about its accessibility and performance versus the LS P2. So I opted for the one that cost less. I do hope to use it for both live voice and music recording though. Merv -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of rsnel...@optusnet.com.au Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 1:25 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder Tom, I reaalise that it is difficult to keep pace with the developments in technology but what we thought was fantastic technology 10 years ago is now very ordinary. For Olympus digital audio recorders, take a look at the following web page: https://www.olympus.com.au/Products/Digital-Audio-Recorders/Business.aspx Under the heading "digital audio recorders" you will see the various categories of digital recorders. For example, under the heading of "business" you will see the DM-720 which is the current equivalent of your old recorder. What is not obvious is that all of these recorders have the same core technology and just have different user interfaces to make them more usable for different classes of people. That is to say, user interfaces for the sound and field recorders (the LS series) is designed for people making high fidelity recordings. The interfaces for notetaker devices or business devices are designed for dictation or recording meetings. Therefore, a DM-720 business recorder will be good for dictation and meetings but, even though it has the digital technology to do so, it will not make it convenient to record live music. By the way, if you take the time to look, the LS-100, LS-14, LS-12 and LS-P2 are all shown as current models. Bob Nelson -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 9:22 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder Bob and list: So this kind of brings me to the question I should have asked: what is the actual replacement for the Olympus DS-40 or Olympus DS-50? From what I've heard about the PS-2 (not sure I have that right) am sure it is a fine unit; it just might be a little more machine than I really need; hard to tell for sure at this point! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of rsnel...@optusnet.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 5:40 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder If you look around, you can still find an LS-14. I purchased a brand new one as recently as 6 weeks ago. However, you may find it cheaper and just as good, quality wise, to purchase an LS-P2. The LS-P2 has the voice guidance for the menus and is, to all intents and purposes, the replacement for the LS-14. It is, however, physically smaller than the LS-14 but it is particularly good for live recording. Bob Nelson -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of vinny Samarco Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 8:07 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder The Ls 14 is gone? Nuts! Isomeone sent me a Neal Ewers review of the ls 14, but I didn't know how old that was, as there was no date on it. I need a digital recorder which will be accessible for a piano cd. My old ptr2 plextor machine just died. Vinny -Original Message- From: Aidan Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 8:03 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder Well, the 14 don't have a compressor as far as I no, or at least not one you can adjust, only a limiter. But 100 have both limiter and compressor. On 23/12/2017, Hamit Campos wrote: As to the 14 being gone yeah I'm surprised too as it was being sold as the s
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Back to the PTR2 for 1 more instant. I knew too it would saddly go away when I came back from convention and looked it up. When I saw they were now celling it as a giant almost a $1000 IPod essentually I said oh dear that's it. the awesome PTR2 is doomed. This is it. It's bie bie for the PTR2 1 of these fine days. So yeah I knew that either they'd have to lift the silly limits or it was doomed the way of the dino at some point. On 12/24/2017 7:33 AM, Aidan wrote: Well, the ptr2 has bin discontinued recently. The ls100 multitrack stuff don't speak but its very accessible as you can here what happens when moving between tracks and also assign one or both function buttons to mute/solo and check what is happening on the focused track. Yes the overdub could be better. On 24/12/2017, Robin Frost wrote: Hi, Thank you for such an informative post. When I looked on the US based site it seemed like the only model that was currently available were the DM720 and the Ls-100. All others seemed to be unavailable. I hope this doesn't indicate that they're leaving the digital recorder market entirely. Robin -Original Message- From: rsnel...@optusnet.com.au Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 1:25 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder Tom, I reaalise that it is difficult to keep pace with the developments in technology but what we thought was fantastic technology 10 years ago is now very ordinary. For Olympus digital audio recorders, take a look at the following web page: https://www.olympus.com.au/Products/Digital-Audio-Recorders/Business.aspx Under the heading "digital audio recorders" you will see the various categories of digital recorders. For example, under the heading of "business" you will see the DM-720 which is the current equivalent of your old recorder. What is not obvious is that all of these recorders have the same core technology and just have different user interfaces to make them more usable for different classes of people. That is to say, user interfaces for the sound and field recorders (the LS series) is designed for people making high fidelity recordings. The interfaces for notetaker devices or business devices are designed for dictation or recording meetings. Therefore, a DM-720 business recorder will be good for dictation and meetings but, even though it has the digital technology to do so, it will not make it convenient to record live music. By the way, if you take the time to look, the LS-100, LS-14, LS-12 and LS-P2 are all shown as current models. Bob Nelson -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 9:22 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder Bob and list: So this kind of brings me to the question I should have asked: what is the actual replacement for the Olympus DS-40 or Olympus DS-50? From what I've heard about the PS-2 (not sure I have that right) am sure it is a fine unit; it just might be a little more machine than I really need; hard to tell for sure at this point! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of rsnel...@optusnet.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 5:40 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder If you look around, you can still find an LS-14. I purchased a brand new one as recently as 6 weeks ago. However, you may find it cheaper and just as good, quality wise, to purchase an LS-P2. The LS-P2 has the voice guidance for the menus and is, to all intents and purposes, the replacement for the LS-14. It is, however, physically smaller than the LS-14 but it is particularly good for live recording. Bob Nelson -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of vinny Samarco Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 8:07 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder The Ls 14 is gone? Nuts! Isomeone sent me a Neal Ewers review of the ls 14, but I didn't know how old that was, as there was no date on it. I need a digital recorder which will be accessible for a piano cd. My old ptr2 plextor machine just died. Vinny -Original Message- From: Aidan Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 8:03 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder Well, the 14 don't have a compressor as far as I no, or at least not one you can adjust, only a limiter. But 100 have both limiter and compressor. On 23/12/2017, Hamit Campos wrote: As to the 14 being gone yeah I'm surprised too as it was being sold as the side arm as it were to the 100. Meh the 14 is the 1 you throw your ideas at you use to practise and what not. Then once it's time to make that project a reality and
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Yeah the over dub could'a been done like it is on the 14. Same for multy track. Unless you don't have to throw away the whole file cause you screwed 1 track? As for the epic PTR2. Ah so they've finally done it? They got rid of it. Sye. I knew it saddly had to happen at some point. For pure sillyness too. It's cause of the limits on what CF cards work. Well there's the whole CD thing too. But it wasn't picky about CD's. But 1 people don't use CD no more and 2 even if you did the PTR2 spun up like a laptop drive and so using CD kills your battery like there's no tomorrow. Trust me I remember. That's why I always used CF cards. Along with the fact that you don't then get the drive noise either. Sad to hear but oh wells. I knew that saddly it was gonna happen. In fact, I was rather plesantly shocked to find a PTR2 at the Plextalk table at the 2013 NFB convention. Cause of the card thing. Which is just silly. I mean look at the 2004 Pac Mates they exept what ever CF cards. Heck to stick with recorders and the time period of the PTR2 look at the Marantz PMD671. That thing would take what ever. It was about the price of a PTR2 as well. But the big thing with that would be phantum power from 2 XLRs and that it could record in Blu-Ray disk quality audio. PCM WAV 96 KHZ 24 bits. That's a Blu-Ray disk. But Plextalk never went above CD. Heck step up to 48 KHZ even and that is DVD at least. But anyways good to know that the multy track and over dub are at least some what usable on the 100. Neal made it sound like meh why even bother. But then again maybe he was right. Lots of people me included can get easely thrown off with out speach or beeps or nothin. On 12/24/2017 7:33 AM, Aidan wrote: Well, the ptr2 has bin discontinued recently. The ls100 multitrack stuff don't speak but its very accessible as you can here what happens when moving between tracks and also assign one or both function buttons to mute/solo and check what is happening on the focused track. Yes the overdub could be better. On 24/12/2017, Robin Frost wrote: Hi, Thank you for such an informative post. When I looked on the US based site it seemed like the only model that was currently available were the DM720 and the Ls-100. All others seemed to be unavailable. I hope this doesn't indicate that they're leaving the digital recorder market entirely. Robin -Original Message- From: rsnel...@optusnet.com.au Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 1:25 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder Tom, I reaalise that it is difficult to keep pace with the developments in technology but what we thought was fantastic technology 10 years ago is now very ordinary. For Olympus digital audio recorders, take a look at the following web page: https://www.olympus.com.au/Products/Digital-Audio-Recorders/Business.aspx Under the heading "digital audio recorders" you will see the various categories of digital recorders. For example, under the heading of "business" you will see the DM-720 which is the current equivalent of your old recorder. What is not obvious is that all of these recorders have the same core technology and just have different user interfaces to make them more usable for different classes of people. That is to say, user interfaces for the sound and field recorders (the LS series) is designed for people making high fidelity recordings. The interfaces for notetaker devices or business devices are designed for dictation or recording meetings. Therefore, a DM-720 business recorder will be good for dictation and meetings but, even though it has the digital technology to do so, it will not make it convenient to record live music. By the way, if you take the time to look, the LS-100, LS-14, LS-12 and LS-P2 are all shown as current models. Bob Nelson -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 9:22 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder Bob and list: So this kind of brings me to the question I should have asked: what is the actual replacement for the Olympus DS-40 or Olympus DS-50? From what I've heard about the PS-2 (not sure I have that right) am sure it is a fine unit; it just might be a little more machine than I really need; hard to tell for sure at this point! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of rsnel...@optusnet.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 5:40 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder If you look around, you can still find an LS-14. I purchased a brand new one as recently as 6 weeks ago. However, you may find it cheaper and just as good, quality wise, to purchase an LS-P2. The LS-P2 has the voice guidance for the menus and is, to all intents and pur
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Well, the ptr2 has bin discontinued recently. The ls100 multitrack stuff don't speak but its very accessible as you can here what happens when moving between tracks and also assign one or both function buttons to mute/solo and check what is happening on the focused track. Yes the overdub could be better. On 24/12/2017, Robin Frost wrote: > Hi, > Thank you for such an informative post. When I looked on the US based site > > it seemed like the only model that was currently available were the DM720 > and the Ls-100. All others seemed to be unavailable. I hope this doesn't > indicate that they're leaving the digital recorder market entirely. > Robin > > > -Original Message- > From: rsnel...@optusnet.com.au > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 1:25 AM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder > > > Tom, > > I reaalise that it is difficult to keep pace with the developments in > technology but what we thought was fantastic technology 10 years ago is now > > very ordinary. > > For Olympus digital audio recorders, take a look at the following web page: > https://www.olympus.com.au/Products/Digital-Audio-Recorders/Business.aspx > > Under the heading "digital audio recorders" you will see the various > categories of digital recorders. For example, under the heading of > "business" you will see the DM-720 which is the current equivalent of your > old recorder. > > What is not obvious is that all of these recorders have the same core > technology and just have different user interfaces to make them more usable > > for different classes of people. > > That is to say, user interfaces for the sound and field recorders (the LS > series) is designed for people making high fidelity recordings. The > interfaces for notetaker devices or business devices are designed for > dictation or recording meetings. > > Therefore, a DM-720 business recorder will be good for dictation and > meetings but, even though it has the digital technology to do so, it will > not make it convenient to record live music. > > By the way, if you take the time to look, the LS-100, LS-14, LS-12 and LS-P2 > > are all shown as current models. > > Bob Nelson > > > -Original Message- > From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom > Kaufman > Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 9:22 AM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder > > Bob and list: So this kind of brings me to the question I should have > asked: what is the actual replacement for the Olympus DS-40 or Olympus > DS-50? From what I've heard about the PS-2 (not sure I have that right) am > > sure it is a fine unit; it just might be a little more machine than I really > > need; hard to tell for sure at this point! > Tom Kaufman > > -Original Message- > From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of > rsnel...@optusnet.com.au > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 5:40 PM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder > > > If you look around, you can still find an LS-14. I purchased a brand new > one as recently as 6 weeks ago. > > However, you may find it cheaper and just as good, quality wise, to purchase > > an LS-P2. > > The LS-P2 has the voice guidance for the menus and is, to all intents and > purposes, the replacement for the LS-14. > > It is, however, physically smaller than the LS-14 but it is particularly > good for live recording. > > Bob Nelson > > > > -Original Message- > From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of vinny > Samarco > Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 8:07 AM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder > > The Ls 14 is gone? Nuts! Isomeone sent me a Neal Ewers review of the ls > 14, > but I didn't know how old that was, as there was no date on it. I need a > digital recorder which will be accessible for a piano cd. My old ptr2 > plextor machine just died. > Vinny > > -Original Message- > From: Aidan > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 8:03 AM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder > > Well, the 14 don't have a compressor as far as I no, or at least not > one you can adjust, only a limiter. But 100 have both limiter and > compressor. > > On 23/12/2017, Hamit Campos wrote: >> As to the 14 being gone yeah I'm surprised too as it was being sold as >> the side arm as it were to the 100. Meh the 14 is the 1 you throw your >> ideas at you use to practise and what not. Then once it's time to make >> that project a reality and send it to mastering to make it loud out >> comes the LS 100 and you make your project and burn that sucker to CD. >> Yeah that's a cool feature that the 100 has that I think and I only >> think that only Sound Devices recorders have. I could be wrong though. >> Oh
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Hi, Thank you for such an informative post. When I looked on the US based site it seemed like the only model that was currently available were the DM720 and the Ls-100. All others seemed to be unavailable. I hope this doesn't indicate that they're leaving the digital recorder market entirely. Robin -Original Message- From: rsnel...@optusnet.com.au Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 1:25 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder Tom, I reaalise that it is difficult to keep pace with the developments in technology but what we thought was fantastic technology 10 years ago is now very ordinary. For Olympus digital audio recorders, take a look at the following web page: https://www.olympus.com.au/Products/Digital-Audio-Recorders/Business.aspx Under the heading "digital audio recorders" you will see the various categories of digital recorders. For example, under the heading of "business" you will see the DM-720 which is the current equivalent of your old recorder. What is not obvious is that all of these recorders have the same core technology and just have different user interfaces to make them more usable for different classes of people. That is to say, user interfaces for the sound and field recorders (the LS series) is designed for people making high fidelity recordings. The interfaces for notetaker devices or business devices are designed for dictation or recording meetings. Therefore, a DM-720 business recorder will be good for dictation and meetings but, even though it has the digital technology to do so, it will not make it convenient to record live music. By the way, if you take the time to look, the LS-100, LS-14, LS-12 and LS-P2 are all shown as current models. Bob Nelson -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 9:22 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder Bob and list: So this kind of brings me to the question I should have asked: what is the actual replacement for the Olympus DS-40 or Olympus DS-50? From what I've heard about the PS-2 (not sure I have that right) am sure it is a fine unit; it just might be a little more machine than I really need; hard to tell for sure at this point! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of rsnel...@optusnet.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 5:40 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder If you look around, you can still find an LS-14. I purchased a brand new one as recently as 6 weeks ago. However, you may find it cheaper and just as good, quality wise, to purchase an LS-P2. The LS-P2 has the voice guidance for the menus and is, to all intents and purposes, the replacement for the LS-14. It is, however, physically smaller than the LS-14 but it is particularly good for live recording. Bob Nelson -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of vinny Samarco Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 8:07 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder The Ls 14 is gone? Nuts! Isomeone sent me a Neal Ewers review of the ls 14, but I didn't know how old that was, as there was no date on it. I need a digital recorder which will be accessible for a piano cd. My old ptr2 plextor machine just died. Vinny -Original Message- From: Aidan Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 8:03 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder Well, the 14 don't have a compressor as far as I no, or at least not one you can adjust, only a limiter. But 100 have both limiter and compressor. On 23/12/2017, Hamit Campos wrote: As to the 14 being gone yeah I'm surprised too as it was being sold as the side arm as it were to the 100. Meh the 14 is the 1 you throw your ideas at you use to practise and what not. Then once it's time to make that project a reality and send it to mastering to make it loud out comes the LS 100 and you make your project and burn that sucker to CD. Yeah that's a cool feature that the 100 has that I think and I only think that only Sound Devices recorders have. I could be wrong though. Oh and that's another thing. The way the 14 does the over dub is better. I forget how the 100 does it but the 14 is better in that it just creates more and more wav files as you dub more and more. So if you mess up just get rid of the newest file. No throwing the whole project away and having to restart it all. On 12/22/2017 4:34 PM, Aidan wrote: Intresting, I wasn't aware that ls14 is gone. I'm glad I have one. Well, don't forget there is hopefully stil the ls100 if its not gone either. Although I think they will hang
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I just ordered myself the LS P2 today. I was tempted to get the LS 100 but couldn't find anyone to satisfy my curiosity about its accessibility and performance versus the LS P2. So I opted for the one that cost less. I do hope to use it for both live voice and music recording though. Merv -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of rsnel...@optusnet.com.au Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 1:25 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder Tom, I reaalise that it is difficult to keep pace with the developments in technology but what we thought was fantastic technology 10 years ago is now very ordinary. For Olympus digital audio recorders, take a look at the following web page: https://www.olympus.com.au/Products/Digital-Audio-Recorders/Business.aspx Under the heading "digital audio recorders" you will see the various categories of digital recorders. For example, under the heading of "business" you will see the DM-720 which is the current equivalent of your old recorder. What is not obvious is that all of these recorders have the same core technology and just have different user interfaces to make them more usable for different classes of people. That is to say, user interfaces for the sound and field recorders (the LS series) is designed for people making high fidelity recordings. The interfaces for notetaker devices or business devices are designed for dictation or recording meetings. Therefore, a DM-720 business recorder will be good for dictation and meetings but, even though it has the digital technology to do so, it will not make it convenient to record live music. By the way, if you take the time to look, the LS-100, LS-14, LS-12 and LS-P2 are all shown as current models. Bob Nelson -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 9:22 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder Bob and list: So this kind of brings me to the question I should have asked: what is the actual replacement for the Olympus DS-40 or Olympus DS-50? From what I've heard about the PS-2 (not sure I have that right) am sure it is a fine unit; it just might be a little more machine than I really need; hard to tell for sure at this point! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of rsnel...@optusnet.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 5:40 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder If you look around, you can still find an LS-14. I purchased a brand new one as recently as 6 weeks ago. However, you may find it cheaper and just as good, quality wise, to purchase an LS-P2. The LS-P2 has the voice guidance for the menus and is, to all intents and purposes, the replacement for the LS-14. It is, however, physically smaller than the LS-14 but it is particularly good for live recording. Bob Nelson -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of vinny Samarco Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 8:07 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder The Ls 14 is gone? Nuts! Isomeone sent me a Neal Ewers review of the ls 14, but I didn't know how old that was, as there was no date on it. I need a digital recorder which will be accessible for a piano cd. My old ptr2 plextor machine just died. Vinny -Original Message- From: Aidan Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 8:03 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder Well, the 14 don't have a compressor as far as I no, or at least not one you can adjust, only a limiter. But 100 have both limiter and compressor. On 23/12/2017, Hamit Campos wrote: > As to the 14 being gone yeah I'm surprised too as it was being sold as > the side arm as it were to the 100. Meh the 14 is the 1 you throw your > ideas at you use to practise and what not. Then once it's time to make > that project a reality and send it to mastering to make it loud out > comes the LS 100 and you make your project and burn that sucker to CD. > Yeah that's a cool feature that the 100 has that I think and I only > think that only Sound Devices recorders have. I could be wrong though. > Oh and that's another thing. The way the 14 does the over dub is better. > I forget how the 100 does it but the 14 is better in that it just > creates more and more wav files as you dub more and more. So if you > mess up just get rid of the newest file. No throwing the whole project > away and having to restart it all. > > > On 12/22/2017 4:34 PM, Aidan wrote: >> Intresting, I wasn't aware that ls14 is gone. I'm glad I have one. >> Well, don't forget there is hopeful