Yeah the over dub could'a been done like it is on the 14. Same for multy track. Unless you don't have to throw away the whole file cause you screwed 1 track? As for the epic PTR2. Ah so they've finally done it? They got rid of it. Sye. I knew it saddly had to happen at some point. For pure sillyness too. It's cause of the limits on what CF cards work. Well there's the whole CD thing too. But it wasn't picky about CD's. But 1 people don't use CD no more and 2 even if you did the PTR2 spun up like a laptop drive and so using CD kills your battery like there's no tomorrow. Trust me I remember. That's why I always used CF cards. Along with the fact that you don't then get the drive noise either. Sad to hear but oh wells. I knew that saddly it was gonna happen. In fact, I was rather plesantly shocked to find a PTR2 at the Plextalk table at the 2013 NFB convention. Cause of the card thing. Which is just silly. I mean look at the 2004 Pac Mates they exept what ever CF cards. Heck to stick with recorders and the time period of the PTR2 look at the Marantz PMD671. That thing would take what ever. It was about the price of a PTR2 as well. But the big thing with that would be phantum power from 2 XLRs and that it could record in Blu-Ray disk quality audio. PCM WAV 96 KHZ 24 bits. That's a Blu-Ray disk. But Plextalk never went above CD. Heck step up to 48 KHZ even and that is DVD at least. But anyways good to know that the multy track and over dub are at least some what usable on the 100. Neal made it sound like meh why even bother. But then again maybe he was right. Lots of people me included can get easely thrown off with out speach or beeps or nothin.

On 12/24/2017 7:33 AM, Aidan wrote:
Well, the ptr2 has bin discontinued recently. The ls100 multitrack
stuff don't speak but its very accessible as you can here what happens
when moving between tracks and also assign one or both function
buttons to mute/solo and check what is happening on the focused track.
Yes the overdub could be better.

On 24/12/2017, Robin Frost <> wrote:
Thank you for such an informative post.  When I looked on the US based site

it seemed like the only model that was currently available were the DM720
and the Ls-100. All others seemed to be unavailable. I hope this doesn't
indicate that they're leaving the digital recorder market entirely.

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 1:25 AM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder


I reaalise that it is difficult to keep pace with the developments in
technology but what we thought was fantastic technology 10 years ago is now

very ordinary.

For Olympus digital audio recorders, take a look at the following web page:

Under the heading "digital audio recorders" you will see the various
categories of digital recorders.  For example, under the heading of
"business" you will see the DM-720 which is the current equivalent of your
old recorder.

What is not obvious is that all of these recorders have the same core
technology and just have different user interfaces to make them more usable

for different classes of people.

That is to say, user interfaces for the sound and field recorders (the LS
series) is designed for people making high fidelity recordings.  The
interfaces for notetaker devices or business devices are designed for
dictation or recording meetings.

Therefore, a DM-720 business recorder will be good for dictation and
meetings but, even though it has the digital technology to do so, it will
not make it convenient to record live music.

By the way, if you take the time to look, the LS-100, LS-14, LS-12 and LS-P2

are all shown as current models.

Bob Nelson

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder

Bob and list:  So this kind of brings me to the question I should have
asked: what is the actual replacement for the Olympus DS-40 or Olympus
DS-50?  From what I've heard about the PS-2 (not sure I have that right) am

sure it is a fine unit; it just might be a little more machine than I really

need; hard to tell for sure at this point!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder

If you look around, you can still find an LS-14.  I purchased a brand new
one as recently as 6 weeks ago.

However, you may find it cheaper and just as good, quality wise, to purchase

an LS-P2.

The LS-P2  has the voice guidance for the menus and is, to all intents and
purposes, the replacement for the LS-14.

It is, however, physically smaller than the LS-14 but it is particularly
good for live recording.

Bob Nelson

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of vinny
Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder

The Ls 14 is gone?  Nuts! Isomeone sent me a Neal Ewers review of the ls
but I didn't know how old that was, as there was no date on it.  I need a
digital recorder which will be accessible for a piano cd.  My old ptr2
plextor machine just died.

-----Original Message-----
From: Aidan
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder

Well, the 14 don't have a compressor as far as I no, or at least not
one you can adjust, only a limiter. But 100 have both limiter and

On 23/12/2017, Hamit Campos <> wrote:
As to the 14 being gone yeah I'm surprised too as it was being sold as
the side arm as it were to the 100. Meh the 14 is the 1 you throw your
ideas at you use to practise and what not. Then once it's time to make
that project a reality and send it to mastering to make it loud out
comes the LS 100 and you make your project and burn that sucker to CD.
Yeah that's a cool feature that the 100 has that I think and I only
think that only Sound Devices recorders have. I could be wrong though.
Oh and that's another thing. The way the 14 does the over dub is better.
I forget how the 100 does it but the 14 is better in that it just
creates more and more wav files as you dub more and more. So if you mess
up just get rid of the newest file. No throwing the whole project away
and having to restart it all.

On 12/22/2017 4:34 PM, Aidan wrote:
Intresting, I wasn't aware that ls14 is gone. I'm glad I have one.
Well, don't forget there is hopefully stil the ls100 if its not gone
either. Although I think they will hang on to it for longer as its
their only multitrack option rite now.

On 22/12/2017, Hamit Campos <> wrote:
Ah yes then indeed the LS-P2 will do fine. I would also personally
recomend the now gone LS-14. But not sure how you could get this as
apparently Olympus doesn't sell it no more.

On 12/21/2017 3:46 PM, Merv Keck wrote:
I am actually looking to replace my DS 50 which is about fifteen years
now and finally worn out. I really liked that model except for the
the recording. I am hoping to find something with equal or better
quality and equal accessibility. The LS P2 has been recommended to me
multiple lists. I asked for something that was more than consumer
recording. Since losing the rest of my vision I lost access to all the
really cool multitrack options that I know of out there.

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus

Sorry; I meant to say DM720!

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus

What's that the LS-P2? yes it's actually more so. You can actually set
date and time yourself. Olympus finally contracted that british lady
say the numbers and things. I don't get why they d

idn't in the first place but oh well there it is. There's also the
for consumers that is also as accessible.
On 12/21/2017 2:18 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Bob and list:  Is this particular recorder as accessible as the old
DS-40 or
DS0-50 used to be; maybe more so?
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus


The best unit to replace your old recorder is LS-P2 which you can
about on the page:

The list price is shown as $179 but I'm sure that if you look around
you will find it cheaper.

Don't let the hype on the web page fool you.  This is a small unit
that will easily fit in a shirt pocket and is, for the most part,
to use.
You'd better make that a shirt pocket with a button down flap because
unless you wrap the P2 in a tissue, it will slip out when you bend
over. Better still, buy a Gutman wind screen for it.

It is the replacement for the LS-14 and, like the LS-14, has voiced
menus.Bob Nelson

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of
Tom Kaufman
Sent: Thursday, 21 December 2017 6:50 AM
Subject: [all-audio] Looking For Equivalent to Olympus DS-40Recorder

Hello list:  Well it would seem that I have lost my good ole Olympus
DS040 digital recorder!  I've looked all over in areas where I
it might be!  But alas, it just doesn't seem to be here!  I know that
this series of digital recorders don't exist anymore under DS-40 or
DS-50!  But what is Olympus making now that is the equivalent?  I
this recorder mainly to record music gigs (I know it mainly is
supposed to be a voice recorder) but I found that it doesn't do bad
for recording live music!  I also liked this machine because of its
size (small enough that I could just stick it in my
pocket) so assuming that I cannot locate the one I have, I'd surely
love to find a good replacement for it; I'd even go for the
to the DS-50 (which might be even better; also would like to know
where would be the best place to find one here in the U.S.A.?


Tom Kaufman

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