Re: all estimate timed out

2013-04-12 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Just to follow up on this. Amanda backups have been running smoothly for a week now. For this one DLE, I set up amgtar and disabled the sparse option. It ran, but took most of Saturday to complete. Then, having a full backup of that, I broke it up into 6 DLE's using excludes and includes. I

Re: all estimate timed out

2013-04-12 Thread Nathan Stratton Treadway
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 12:59:39 -0400, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: As a followup, in case anyone cares to discuss technicalities and examples, has anyone run into this before? It seems any site doing lots of sizable scanned images, or GIS systems with tiff maps, would have run into it. I don't

Re: all estimate timed out

2013-04-12 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Thank you, Nathan. Informative. The Total bytes written: was identical with and without the --sparse option (right down to the last byte ;-) ). It was the time taken to arrive at that estimate that was so very different: Total bytes written: 2086440960 (2.0GiB, 11MiB/s) real3m14.91s

Re: all estimate timed out

2013-04-12 Thread Nathan Stratton Treadway
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 17:09:11 -0400, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: The Total bytes written: was identical with and without the --sparse option (right down to the last byte ;-) ). It was the time taken to arrive at that estimate that was so very different: Total bytes written: 2086440960 (2.0GiB,

Re: all estimate timed out

2013-04-05 Thread Jean-Louis Martineau
On 04/05/2013 12:09 PM, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: OK, folks, it is the --sparse option that Amanda is putting on the gtar. This is /usr/sfw/bin/tar version 1.23 on Solaris 10. I have a test script that runs the runtar and a test directory with just 10 of the tif files in it. Without the

Re: all estimate timed out

2013-04-05 Thread Brian Cuttler
Chris, I don't know what tif files look like internally, don't know how they compress. Just of out left field... does your zpool have compression enabled? I realized zfs will compress or not on a per block basis, but I don't know what if any overhead is being incurred, if the tif files are not

Re: all estimate timed out

2013-04-05 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
OK, folks, it is the --sparse option that Amanda is putting on the gtar. This is /usr/sfw/bin/tar version 1.23 on Solaris 10. I have a test script that runs the runtar and a test directory with just 10 of the tif files in it. Without the --sparse option, time tells me that it takes 0m0.57s to

Re: all estimate timed out

2013-04-05 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Thank you! Not sure why the debug file would list runtar in the form of a parameter, when it's not to be used as such. Anyway, that got it working. Which brings me back to my original problem. As indicated previously, the filesystem in question only has 2806 files and 140 directories. As I

Re: all estimate timed out

2013-04-04 Thread Brian Cuttler
Chris, sorry for the email trouble, this is a new phenomenon and I don't know what is causing it, if you can identify the bad header please let me know. We updated our mailhost a few months ago, but my MUA (mutt) has not changed nor has my editor (emacs). My large directories are exceptions,

Re: all estimate timed out

2013-04-04 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
client -- Thunderbird 17.0.5. I changed the dump type to not use compression. If tif files are not going to compress anyway, then I might as well not even ask Amanda to try. However, it never gets to the dump, because it gets all estimate timed out. I will try breaking it into multiple DLE's

Re: all estimate timed out

2013-04-04 Thread Brian Cuttler
to try. However, it never gets to the dump, because it gets all estimate timed out. I will try breaking it into multiple DLE's and also changing it to server estimate. But, until I know what is really causing the problem, I'm not optimistic about the possibility of a successful dump. As I

Re: all estimate timed out

2013-04-04 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
by my mail client -- Thunderbird 17.0.5. I changed the dump type to not use compression. If tif files are not going to compress anyway, then I might as well not even ask Amanda to try. However, it never gets to the dump, because it gets all estimate timed out. I will try breaking

Re: all estimate timed out

2013-04-04 Thread Jean-Louis Martineau
On 04/04/2013 02:48 PM, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: I may just quietly go nuts. I'm trying to run the command directly. In the debug file, one example is: Mon Apr 1 08:05:49 2013: thd-32a58: sendsize: Spawning /usr/local/libexec/amanda/runtar runtar daily /usr/local/etc/amanda/tools/gtar

Re: all estimate timed out

2013-04-04 Thread Nathan Stratton Treadway
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 17:48:46 -0400, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: If I exchange the two commands so that I'm using gtar directly rather than runtar, then I get: /usr/sfw/bin/gtar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive Try `/usr/sfw/bin/gtar --help' or `/usr/sfw/bin/gtar --usage'

Re: all estimate timed out

2013-04-04 Thread Nathan Stratton Treadway
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 17:48:46 -0400, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: So, I created a script working off that and adding verbose: #!/bin/ksh OPTIONS= --create --file /dev/null --numeric-owner --directory /export/herbarium --one-file-system --listed-incremental; OPTIONS=${OPTIONS}

all estimate timed out

2013-04-03 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
This seems like an obvious read the FAQ situation, but . . . I'm running Amanda 3.3.2 on a Sun T5220 with Solaris 10 and a J4500 jbod disk array with multipath SAS. It all should be fast and is on the local server, so there isn't any network path outside localhost for the DLE's that are giving

Re: all estimate timed out

2013-04-03 Thread C.Scheeder
Hi Chris, Am 03.04.2013 17:26, schrieb Chris Hoogendyk: This seems like an obvious read the FAQ situation, but . . . I'm running Amanda 3.3.2 on a Sun T5220 with Solaris 10 and a J4500 jbod disk array with multipath SAS. It all should be fast and is on the local server, so there isn't any

Re: all estimate timed out

2013-04-03 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
On 4/3/13 12:15 PM, C.Scheeder wrote: Hi Chris, Am 03.04.2013 17:26, schrieb Chris Hoogendyk: This seems like an obvious read the FAQ situation, but . . . I'm running Amanda 3.3.2 on a Sun T5220 with Solaris 10 and a J4500 jbod disk array with multipath SAS. It all should be fast and is on

Re: all estimate timed out

2013-04-03 Thread Brian Cuttler
Chris, for larger file systems I've moved to server estimate, less accurate but takes the entire estimate phase out of the equation. We have had a lot of success with pig zip rather than regular gzip, is it'll take advantage of the mutiple CPUs and give parallelization during compression, which

Re: all estimate timed out

2013-04-03 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
For some reason, the headers in the particular message from the list (from Brian) are causing my mail client or something to completely strip the message so that it is blank when I reply. That is, I compose a message, it looks good, and I send it. But then I get a blank bcc, brian gets a blank

Re: Q: 'all estimate timed out' error

2012-08-26 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
flawlessly for years, now regularly throws the message FAILURE AND STRANGE DUMP SUMMARY: srv-erp3 /mnt1 lev 0 FAILED [disk /mnt1, all estimate timed out] planner: ERROR Request to srv-erp3 failed: timeout waiting for REP in the report, but the other disks are written properly: Did

Re: Q: 'all estimate timed out' error

2012-08-23 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
AND STRANGE DUMP SUMMARY: srv-erp3 /mnt1 lev 0 FAILED [disk /mnt1, all estimate timed out] planner: ERROR Request to srv-erp3 failed: timeout waiting for REP in the report, but the other disks are written properly: Did this ever got resolved? How? Since a few days, I'm getting the same

Q: 'all estimate timed out' error

2011-10-10 Thread Albrecht Dre�
Hi all, I use amanda 2.5.2p1 on a Ubuntu 8.04 server to back up several machines. The backup of /one/ disk from /one/ machine, which worked flawlessly for years, now regularly throws the message FAILURE AND STRANGE DUMP SUMMARY: srv-erp3 /mnt1 lev 0 FAILED [disk /mnt1, all estimate timed

Re: all estimate timed out

2008-06-13 Thread Marc Muehlfeld
John Heim schrieb: marvin /var lev 0 FAILED [disk /var, all estimate timed out] marvin /etc lev 0 FAILED [disk /etc, all estimate timed out] marvin /backup/ulam/current/mail lev 0 FAILED [disk /backup/ulam/current/mail, all estimate timed

all estimate timed out

2008-06-12 Thread John Heim
Hi, I'm getting an error message from amdump. Amanda is installed on a machine called marvin. But amdump is saying all estimate timed out regarding directories on marvin itself. The email message from amanda with the error message is copied below. I tried amcheck: $ amcheck -c DailySet1