Re: tar vs. dump for / backup?

2008-07-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The final report email, in dump summery, it shows / failed. DUMP SUMMARY: DUMPER STATS TAPER STATS HOSTNAME DISKL ORIG-KB OUT-KB COMP% MMM:SS KB/s MMM:SS KB/s -- -

Re: tar vs. dump for / backup?

2008-07-15 Thread Andres Moya
post your disklist file strings corresponding to server. and /etc/fstab. difficult to say. what is error reported by amcheck? dump more likely work with deices names, while tar with mounted paths. On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 00:09 -0400, Ian Turner wrote: On Monday 14 July 2008 22:01:21 [EMAIL

Re: tar vs. dump for / backup?

2008-07-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The disklist was in my first email to the group, but here it is again: builder1.mydomain.com /boot hard-disk-dump builder1.mydomain.com / hard-disk-dump Ian asked (in another email) for a FAILED DUMP SUMMARY section to explained what happened, as well as my

Re: tar vs. dump for / backup?

2008-07-15 Thread Dustin J. Mitchell
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Searching the web for 'amanda all estimate failed' has turned up many hits, but few fixes. Is this a broad error, or could some fix for it go in the FAQ? It's a broad error: essentially something funny happend on the

Re: tar vs. dump for / backup?

2008-07-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Since the 'all estimate failed' error is a generic (thank you Dustin), it was suggested (thank you Jean-Louis) that I look on the client for amandad.*.debug and sendsize.*.debug for error message. On the Gentoo client I found the log in: /var/spool/amanda/tmp/client/DailySet1 The file:

Re: tar vs. dump for / backup?

2008-07-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 15:04 -0400, Jean-Louis Martineau wrote: Yes, dump is for ext2/3, it can't backup a reiserfs filesystem, you must use GNUTAR for reiserfs. Great. Thank you, everyone. One person suggested I could use dump and avoid the error by changing the estimate type (in

Re: tar vs. dump for / backup?

2008-07-15 Thread Dustin J. Mitchell
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do I do about it? What does it mean? Is this a manifestation of the reiserfs-dump incompatibility? Perhaps -- but you said /boot was reiserfs too, and was backed up fine? Are you sure both partitions are

Re: tar vs. dump for / backup?

2008-07-15 Thread Jean-Louis Martineau
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sendsize[7952]: time 0.003: /dev/sda2: Bad magic number in super-block while opening filesystem^M sendsize[7952]: time 0.003: DUMP: The ENTIRE dump is aborted. sendsize[7952]: time 0.004: . sendsize[7952]: time 0.004: estimate time for / level 0: 0.002

Re: tar vs. dump for / backup?

2008-07-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 15:43 -0400, Dustin J. Mitchell wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do I do about it? What does it mean? Is this a manifestation of the reiserfs-dump incompatibility? Perhaps -- but you said /boot was reiserfs too,

tar vs. dump for / backup?

2008-07-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
priority high } define dumptype hard-disk-tar { hard-disk-dump comment Back up to hard disk instead of tape - using tar program GNUTAR priority high index yes dumpcycle 1 exclude list /etc/amanda/exclude-list compress NONE } -- changer.conf

Re: tar vs. dump for / backup?

2008-07-14 Thread Ian Turner
On Monday 14 July 2008 22:01:21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to backup a remote host's /boot and / mount points. I don't have a tape drive, so I am backing up host to a disk on the server. When I use hard-disk-dump, /boot seems to backup fine, but / doesn't. When I use hard-disk-tar,

Re: tar or dump

2002-06-05 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 at 10:37am, BRINER Cedric wrote I have 2 questions: 1) what are you using as system to back up : tar | dump -tar :advantage: The tar is independent of the FileSystem and it could work also on an active partition -dump: I can't see any advantage? There have been *many

Re: tar or dump

2002-06-05 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 10:37:09AM +0200, BRINER Cedric wrote: hi, I have 2 questions: 1) what are you using as system to back up : tar | dump -tar :advantage: The tar is independent of the FileSystem and it could work also on an active partition -dump: I can't see any advantage? 2

How to specify TAR or DUMP

2001-02-16 Thread Adams, Christopher
Title: How to specify TAR or DUMP Hi all, Where in the amanda.conf do I specify what form of backup Amanda is supposed to use. Like TAR or DUMP?

Re: How to specify TAR or DUMP

2001-02-16 Thread John R. Jackson
Where in the amanda.conf do I specify what form of backup Amanda is supposed to use. Like TAR or DUMP? The "program" keyword in a "dumptype". See amanda(8). John R. Jackson, Technical Software Specialist, [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. Please turn off "send as HTML&qu

Re: GNU-Tar vs dump/restore ...

2001-01-02 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Hrmmm ... could you set this on a directory and have it ignore all files/directories under that directory too? And, the --with-dump-onor-nodump option .. is that enabled on client or server, or both? Thanks ... On 2 Jan 2001, Greg Troxel wrote: With BSD dump on 4.4BSD-derived systems, one

Re: GNU-Tar vs dump/restore ...

2001-01-02 Thread Greg Troxel
A quick perusal of the documentation (src/sbin/dump/traverse.c) indicates that dump walks the inode list and performs the nodump flag check on each file individually. grep HAVE_HONOR */*.c client-src/sendbackup-dump.c:#ifdef HAVE_HONOR_NODUMP client-src/sendbackup-dump.c:#ifdef

Re: GNU-Tar vs dump/restore ...

2000-12-30 Thread John R. Jackson
Are there any problems backing up the FS containing the holding disk with dump (ufsdump in my case)? Yes. Dump can get just as confused as tar trying to back up the image it is writing to. Worse, during a full restore, you'll bring that basically useless junk back. Not to mention the wasted

GNU-Tar vs dump/restore ...

2000-12-29 Thread The Hermit Hacker
to find any way of doing an exclusion list for dump, and the man page for dump re-enforces that ... so ... ... what are general opinions? ppl moving to gnu-tar vs dump, or just living without the ability to do exclusions? thanks ... Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC

Re: GNU-Tar vs dump/restore ...

2000-12-29 Thread John R. Jackson
what are ppl more partial to using? ... This comes up here every once in a while and is basically a religious issue. The points you bring up, as well as being able to do subsets of an entire file system and portability, are all good reasons to use GNU tar. I won't use it here because it

Re: GNU-Tar vs dump/restore ...

2000-12-29 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, John R. Jackson wrote: what are ppl more partial to using? ... This comes up here every once in a while and is basically a religious issue. The points you bring up, as well as being able to do subsets of an entire file system and portability, are all good reasons to

Re: GNU-Tar vs dump/restore ...

2000-12-29 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Dec 29, 2000, The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: another good one is that incrementals don't work either, do they, with GNU-Tar? They do. That's the reason why Amanda requires GNU tar. -- Alexandre Oliva Enjoy Guarana', see http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat GCC

Re: GNU-Tar vs dump/restore ...

2000-12-29 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On 30 Dec 2000, Alexandre Oliva wrote: On Dec 29, 2000, The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: another good one is that incrementals don't work either, do they, with GNU-Tar? They do. That's the reason why Amanda requires GNU tar. okay, if that is the case, what exactly is required

Re: GNU-Tar vs dump/restore ...

2000-12-29 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Dec 30, 2000, The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: okay, if that is the case, what exactly is required to switch over to gnu-tar? Select a dumptype that has GNUTAR as the backup program and force a full backup of any disks whose backup program has changed. I'm assuming that I *can*

Re: GNU-Tar vs dump/restore ...

2000-12-29 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 08:26:58PM -0500, John R. Jackson wrote: what are ppl more partial to using? ... This comes up here every once in a while and is basically a religious issue. The points you bring up, as well as being able to do subsets of an entire file system and portability,