Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-05-11 Thread Enoch
Erich Wälde writes: > Enoch, > > > Enoch writes: > >> writes: >> >>> Enoch, >>> >>> >>> I repeat, I am not going to get into a licensing debate with anyone, but I >>> believe I have satisfied the GPLv3 requirements. >>> >>> >>> DaR >>> >> >> I don't question your compliance Dennis, I leave that

Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-05-10 Thread Andreas Wagner
> Since you're not the only one with a large project, I took the freedom to start a new major section on the website: called "commented projects". I'm interested. Do you have a link to the section? Myself, I've used AmForth for a wild cranberry bog sensing network: http://hub.darcs.net/pointfree/c

Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-05-10 Thread Erich Wälde
Enoch, Enoch writes: > writes: > >> Enoch, >> >> >> I repeat, I am not going to get into a licensing debate with anyone, but I >> believe I have satisfied the GPLv3 requirements. >> >> >> DaR >> > > I don't question your compliance Dennis, I leave that task to the > copyright holder :-) > > Un

Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-05-09 Thread Enoch
writes: > Enoch, > > > I repeat, I am not going to get into a licensing debate with anyone, but I > believe I have satisfied the GPLv3 requirements. > > > DaR > I don't question your compliance Dennis, I leave that task to the copyright holder :-) Unfortunately, anything *original* that you wi

Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-05-09 Thread daruffer
Enoch, I repeat, I am not going to get into a licensing debate with anyone, but I believe I have satisfied the GPLv3 requirements. DaR From: Enoch Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎May‎ ‎9‎, ‎2015 ‎2‎:‎34‎ ‎PM To: amforth-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Dennis, I would like to caution you that AmFort

Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-05-09 Thread Enoch
Dennis, I would like to caution you that AmForth nowadays is GPLv3, i.e., "most toxic" :-) I forked AmForth and continued with my independent AmForth-Shadow development when Matthias made the switch from GPLv2 to GPLv3. My new stuff is FreeBSD like licensed. Cheers, Enoch. https://github.com/w

Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-05-09 Thread daruffer
Matthias, I'm not going to get into a licensing debate with you. I prefer MIT and you can choose whatever you prefer. I have published coinForth and forked a copy of your amforth-5.8 into it. I also just published my docs with it. You can read all about my attempts to compare amforth, SwiftX a

Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-05-09 Thread Matthias Trute
Dennis, > I just need to find time to work out the compatibility issues and get > my LyX document printing again and I will publish the update, probably > within my coinForth repository, since amforth’s GNU license requires > it. Then the source code will be more accessible too. Since you're not

Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-04-25 Thread Tom Maynard
> > Maybe a simple edit to the Makefile could correct that issue. > > Since I use ant (and the build.xml files) I welcome feedback for the makefiles. I seldom (in fact never) use > make. Foolishly sloppy language from me again: I meant "Makefile" as a form of synecdoche for "the Build Process."

Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-04-25 Thread Matthias Trute
Am Montag, den 20.04.2015, 22:17 -0500 schrieb Tom Maynard: > > Can't someone here with a working Arduino Uno R3 help Steve? > > I haven't looked, but at least at the release level when I downloaded my > first Amforth (v5.3?), there were HEX files for all supported hardware > buried somewhere in t

Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-04-24 Thread daruffer
Thanks for the praise! 😉 I just need to find time to work out the compatibility issues and get my LyX document printing again and I will publish the update, probably within my coinForth repository, since amforth’s GNU license requires it. Then the source code will be more accessible too. I m

Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-04-24 Thread Tom Maynard
> Now, to update http://www.forth.org/svfig/kk/02-2014-Ruffer.pdf A Literate Program! Good golly, I didn't think there was anyone else in the world who did this. So it's true that "No Man is an Island" after all. A very nice piece of work, too -- and exactly what the community needs. Thank y

Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-04-24 Thread daruffer
Don't know if Steve ever got something working, but having been in his shoes, and just recently stumbling upon a solution for my setup, I posted my setup last night at: https://github.com/DRuffer/coinForth. It's not the same board, but effectively, the same setup. I also thank Steve for menti

Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-04-20 Thread Tom Maynard
> Can't someone here with a working Arduino Uno R3 help Steve? I haven't looked, but at least at the release level when I downloaded my first Amforth (v5.3?), there were HEX files for all supported hardware buried somewhere in the distribution. Is that not true now? Memory says that the HEX file

Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-04-20 Thread Enoch
gp2 writes: > Hello Mathias, > > I was surprised to read how you felt about my last post. I did not mean > it as a criticism of you or your work at all! > > I was not crying out in frustration, but listing problems I encountered, > Many of them had nothing to do with Amforth -- the Atmel IDE for

Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-04-20 Thread Matthias Trute
Steve, English is (according to Oscar Wilde) the common language that separates English an Americans, so I certainly expect a whole bunch of misunderstandings for non-native speakers like me. But sometimes... So I beg your (every native speaker's) pardon for my English. English is *not* my prima

Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-04-16 Thread Erich Wälde
Hello gp2, hello all, so I chime in late, but nevertheless. 1. The road to amforth on controller X Yes, that road is definitely long and windy. I sometimes give classes on exactly that. There are so many pieces that *must* work together, before the first ok prompt shows up. You did a great job,

Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-04-16 Thread Tom Maynard
> "FORGET is not implemented Um, yes: my note was incredibly poorly worded. I should have said something like, "'FORGET' -- which in Amforth is implemented using 'MARKER.'" But, too late now: you found it and figured it out. > I assume I have to add MARKER by including it and burning a new inst

Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-04-15 Thread gp2
Thank you Tom, doing more reading I found this: "FORGET is not implemented since it would be nearly impossible to reset the search order word list with reason- able efforts. The better way is using MARKER from the library." And so I assume I have to add MARKER by including it and burning a new

Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-04-15 Thread Tom Maynard
I am certainly no expert, but I can answer this question: > 3.) Where is the erase function for practice code, or do I have to > re-flash a new version of AMFORTH every time to get rid of old code? You need to build your Forth image and include the FORGET word. Read the doc (which is quite help

Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-04-15 Thread gp2
Hello Mathias, I was surprised to read how you felt about my last post. I did not mean it as a criticism of you or your work at all! I was not crying out in frustration, but listing problems I encountered, Many of them had nothing to do with Amforth -- the Atmel IDE for instance, or AVRdude probl

Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-04-14 Thread Hannu Vuolasaho
> From: mtr...@web.de > To: amforth-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 21:04:10 +0200 > Subject: Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3 > > Steve, > > I like it to get the un-modified first frustration > fr

Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-04-14 Thread Matthias Trute
Steve, I like it to get the un-modified first frustration from people absolutely new to amforth. Really. My first reaction to your mail was get lost (well, something less polite in fact). Now I think about what went wrong. Amforth is nothing I am ashamed of. That may surprise you, but it defini

[Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-04-13 Thread gp2
Hello, As a new user of Amforth, I just wanted to give some feedback on trying to implement 5.8 on an Arduino Uno R3 board. I had quite a bit of difficulty and it took research over a couple of days to get FORTH running. Here are some of the issues (and missteps on my part) in hopes that they