Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash

2006-10-31 Thread capricious . falcon
Well either you have click to close or no splash at all because topmost is not an option :P Unless of course you give the splash window borders - GIMP does this and it looks okayTom On 10/30/06, NoWhereMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message -From: Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash

2006-10-31 Thread Boris Faure (aka billiob)
About the splash, maybe you can take a look at this implementation : http://www.sics.se/emmanuel/?Code:splash -- Boris FAURE (aka billiob) mail, msn : [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly agitated.

Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash

2006-10-30 Thread Karel Demeyer
... KKRT On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 04:53:12PM +0100, NoWhereMan wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel

Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash

2006-10-30 Thread Wilfredo Ortiz
: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash if we do have a splash screen

Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash

2006-10-30 Thread Álvaro J. Iradier
] To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash if we do have a splash screen, make sure its one that you can hide by clicking (maybe

Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash

2006-10-30 Thread Youness Alaoui
] To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash if we do have a splash screen, make sure its one that you can hide

Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash

2006-10-30 Thread NoWhereMan
- Original Message - From: Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash Totally true, I agree with Karel, I didn't think

Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash

2006-10-30 Thread Youness Alaoui
: - Original Message - From: Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash Totally true, I agree with Karel, I didn't

Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash

2006-10-29 Thread Karel Demeyer
Don't want to change opinions anymore (or do I want to ? ;)) but just want you to know; This usability I told about has nothing to do with interface design. It's about hte following: When you have a splash screen hovering all other windows, a user is forced to take a break from his/her work

Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash

2006-10-29 Thread NoWhereMan
- Original Message - From: Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] When you have a splash screen hovering all other windows, a user is forced to take a break from his/her work (you can call this a feature :p). You're right; at the moment I'm not on Linux but anyway I think this splash is

Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash

2006-10-29 Thread capricious . falcon
if we do have a splash screen, make sure its one that you can hide by clicking (maybe even have a little hide link on it) or that other apps can go over, because splash screens that stay on top of everything are FUCKING ANNOYING and I would hate for amsn to become something people hate to run

Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash

2006-10-29 Thread NoWhereMan
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash if we do have a splash screen, make sure its one that you can hide

Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash

2006-10-29 Thread Youness Alaoui
, October 29, 2006 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash if we do have a splash screen, make sure its one that you can hide by clicking (maybe even have a little hide link on it) or that other apps can go over, because splash screens that stay on top of everything

Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash

2006-10-28 Thread NoWhereMan
- Original Message - From: Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Really, splashes are bad, are so '90s and I won't like to see amsn use it. You better make your app show the main window as quick as possible (maybe this can be finetuned a little more), as a feedback to the user the app

Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash

2006-10-28 Thread Harry Vennik
Op zaterdag 28 oktober 2006 09:51, schreef NoWhereMan: - Original Message - From: Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Really, splashes are bad, are so '90s and I won't like to see amsn use it. You better make your app show the main window as quick as possible (maybe this can be

Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash

2006-10-28 Thread NoWhereMan
- Original Message - From: Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED] that's not a bad idea at all; you may make the main window a splash... With this I just mean all the thing a splash would do show an image, display some text) would be done in the main window. In practice that approximates

Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash

2006-10-28 Thread Karel Demeyer
Op zaterdag 28-10-2006 om 11:35 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef NoWhereMan: - Original Message - From: Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED] that's not a bad idea at all; you may make the main window a splash... With this I just mean all the thing a splash would do show an image,

Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash

2006-10-28 Thread NoWhereMan
- Original Message - From: Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] So these 5 (just a guess) values from the config pose the problem ? (X, Y coordinate, width, height and language) I don't know how well this solution blends, but yet another splash screen is bad IMHO. As we already have

Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash

2006-10-28 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
If that config parsing appers to be a problem, we can always move the 'needed early' config like those positions into a special config file which becomes loaded first. We can show the window then, and proceed loading the rest of the config, and do whatever we need to. So these 5

Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash

2006-10-28 Thread NoWhereMan
- Original Message - From: Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or ... an earth spinning? :) Or something that will show the user that the program is alive. I agree with the idea: as long as it's moving, it's loading, alive, leave it alone, if there's an error print it underneath...

Re: [Amsn-devel] about the splash

2006-10-28 Thread Youness Alaoui
ok.. sorry I couldn't answer earlier... first, Thanks Karel for sharing your ideas... and NWM/harry/vivia for this thread.. but I just think it's useless talk... Karel, I understand what you're saying and you might be right about the splash screen not being effective... but how much of our GUI

[Amsn-devel] about the splash

2006-10-27 Thread Karel Demeyer
Here a little thing I discussed with Vivia some minutes ago: [01:14:55] Me: Welln, I just send a mail to amsn-devel as youness mailaed me [01:15:03] Me: and out of curiosity I checked the archives [01:15:22] Me: now I saw a thread about a splash screen though I really think this is a bad idae