[android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

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[android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-04-14 Thread Sheng Hong Soong
On 4月1日, 上午5时23分, Greg Donald gdon...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Abdul Mateen abmat...@gmail.com wrote: I said, if Moto having a 60K earning $150, why should not I earn $10/day with 10k install base? Because there are many other variables you probably aren't

[android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-04-14 Thread Moto
Yes, its around $150 - $300 per day. You got to understand that my high revenue is due to the nature of the application and as someone mentioned the quality and displacement of the ads. If an app is used by a user once every week for just a few minutes than the impression of the ad will be low.

Re: [android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-04-01 Thread Kevin Duffey
So help clarify something to me if you ad guys don't mind.. if you just display an ad.. do you get paid? Or does a user have to click on the ad for you to make any money? If it's both.. I am guessing you get more money when they click on the ad? What measures are in place to avoid bots from

Re: [android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-04-01 Thread Justin Giles
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 3:13 AM, Kevin Duffey andjar...@gmail.com wrote: So help clarify something to me if you ad guys don't mind.. if you just display an ad.. do you get paid? Or does a user have to click on the ad for you to make any money? If it's both.. I am guessing you get more money

[android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-04-01 Thread polyclefsoftware
On Apr 1, 7:08 am, Justin Giles jtgi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 3:13 AM, Kevin Duffey andjar...@gmail.com wrote: So help clarify something to me if you ad guys don't mind.. if you just display an ad.. do you get paid? Or does a user have to click on the ad for you to make

Re: [android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-04-01 Thread Kevin Duffey
Good info.. so you can integrate google adsense into android apps too? IS there info on how to do that? What are the benefits of using 2 or 3 different ones? Just the different ads that are available? I mean, how do you even know what ads are provided by each service? The one that surprises me

Re: [android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-04-01 Thread Greg Donald
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Kevin Duffey andjar...@gmail.com wrote: The one that surprises me is people actually click on these things? I can't imagine during a game I would click on an ad to be taken out of my game to the device browser to view the ad? That surprises me that anyone would

Re: [android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-04-01 Thread ~ TreKing
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Kevin Duffey andjar...@gmail.com wrote: I can't imagine during a game I would click on an ad to be taken out of my game to the device browser to view the ad? That surprises me that anyone would actually do that. You're assuming they all do so on purpose ...

Re: [android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-04-01 Thread Justin Giles
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Kevin Duffey andjar...@gmail.com wrote: Good info.. so you can integrate google adsense into android apps too? IS there info on how to do that? You need to apply to and get accepted to the google adsense for mobile applications.

Re: [android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-31 Thread Dan Sherman
I would very seriously suspect that they report it. I remember having to give a social-security/tax-id to Adsense when signing up. And just thinking through their tax predicament (bringing in tons of money, and seeing a lot of it go straight back out), they're going to need to keep records, and

Re: [android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-31 Thread Kevin Duffey
I would think the same thing. Maybe it's the google market that doesn't report it? I had asked about this some time ago, for those selling apps and making their 70%, at tax time do they get some 1099 or something, and several said no. So I am unclear as to how the market handles taxes... as well,

Re: [android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-31 Thread Dan Sherman
I would imagine their tax lines look something like this: Client -- Google :: $1.00 Google -- Developer :: $0.70 Google's taxable income: $0.30 Note that they don't explicitly tell the government We paid XXX to developer Y, they just note that the money left their hands, and that they shouldn't

Re: [android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-31 Thread Abdul Mateen
I think I should also do this, i.e switch from Admob --- QW or Mobclix. If even I made 50 per day it would be enough...but yes how to force user to update ? I have more than 10k active installs. On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Dan Sherman impact...@gmail.com wrote: I would imagine their tax

Re: [android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-31 Thread Wayne Wenthin
I include both Jars and query my server on which ads to show. I default to Admob = false. This way if my query fails I get Mobclix. The key is to place both ads in the same location and use the enabled and visible methods. As for the accounting I'm sure they have to show who they are

Re: [android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-31 Thread Kevin Duffey
Wayne et all, I agree.. it would look strange that they are giving that much money in transactions to individuals, but where do we find out about this? Some of you are selling apps... what are you doing to deal with income taxes? When you signed up to publish your app, were you required to give

Re: [android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-31 Thread Frank Weiss
If your Schedule C doesn't show a net loss, you're in the top 5% of mobile app developers. On Mar 31, 2010 9:18 AM, Kevin Duffey andjar...@gmail.com wrote: Wayne et all, I agree.. it would look strange that they are giving that much money in transactions to individuals, but where do we find out

[android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-31 Thread Streets Of Boston
It is income, so you ought to report it to the IRS. The fact Google doesn't send your income-details to the IRS (and it doesn't send you a 1099), doesn't mean it's exempt from taxes... we can wish, though. And who knows, the IRS may be able to figure it out when you get an audit. And i think

[android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-31 Thread Warren
Just for clarification, did you really intend to type $150, or did you mean $1.50? If you really meant $150, great! But since other people report incomes in the single-digit dollar range, I thought perhaps it was a typo. Either way, it would be good to know. On Mar 31, 1:10 pm, Streets Of Boston

Re: [android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-31 Thread Wayne Wenthin
With a 60K install base I could see $150 a day. My figures reflect my measly install base of less than 3K. On the whole tax aspect I guess I never considered that my time and effort as well as the cost of anything related to the production of the app could be written off.Of course I leave

Re: [android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-31 Thread Abdul Mateen
I donot think so I have 10K install base but still with admob I am getting arround $2/day.. it should be $10 /day. Can any one suggest me what should I do to raise the revenue. On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Wayne Wenthin wa...@fuligin.com wrote: With a 60K install base I could see $150 a

Re: [android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-31 Thread Greg Donald
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Abdul Mateen abmat...@gmail.com wrote: I donot think so I have 10K install base but still with admob I am getting arround $2/day.. it should be $10 /day. Can any one suggest me what should I do to raise the revenue. Why do you think it should be $10/day? Just

Re: [android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-31 Thread Abdul Mateen
I said, if Moto having a 60K earning $150, why should not I earn $10/day with 10k install base? On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Greg Donald gdon...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Abdul Mateen abmat...@gmail.com wrote: I donot think so I have 10K install base but still

Re: [android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-31 Thread Greg Donald
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Abdul Mateen abmat...@gmail.com wrote: I said, if Moto having a 60K earning $150, why should not I earn $10/day with 10k install base? Because there are many other variables you probably aren't considering.. ones such as quality of the app/game, placement of the

Re: [android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-31 Thread Marc Lester Tan
Yeah that is true. I have an app that's ~15k active installs and is gaining $20/day while my other apps where active installs are 20k are just gaining ~ $1 a day. It really depends whether your users are actually using your application very often. marc On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Greg

[android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-30 Thread Ahmed majaat
try this, http://www.aditic.com/demo, it may helps you to improve your CTR and Revenue. They have more ad formats, splashscreen, interstial, 2/3 banner, strech banner and more for Android. Just for your information I used intro/splashscreen Banner and retractable banner, my CTR is around 0.67.

Re: [android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-30 Thread Abdul Mateen
Yes Really Moto $150/day is a damn good income from Ads, I am only making $1-$2/day , and I am using Admob + Greystripe.. On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Kevin Duffey andjar...@gmail.com wrote: I am interested in this as well. First, Moto.. $150 a day? Holy crap! I'd love to have that much

Re: [android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-30 Thread Wayne Wenthin
I'll chime in on this. I have switched from admob to mobclix recently. (actually I can control which one I use base on a network check) I have noticed my CTR jump from around 2-3 a day to around 7. This makes me more inclined to hang with them. But I only changed after I watch admob drop from

Re: [android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-30 Thread Kevin Duffey
Well, yes, you *should* report it.. but if google and admob and so forth don't report anything to the IRS, then it's basically on good faith. There isn't presently any way for them to track how much you make. I would imagine eventually something will come into play. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:00

[android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-15 Thread Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru)
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[android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-15 Thread Yahel
Hi, This is actually a good topic, good idea bringing it up. Just my two cents as usual : It is very hard to make real money out of ads in your app. The reason is quite simple, for every 1000 impressions you can earn from $0.75 to $1 on average. So you need 1 millions views per month on your

[android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-15 Thread Yahel
Sorry John but I do not agree. Android Discuss seems there to discuss any general Android topic : The device or it's use, not developer stuff. This ads thing does only concern developers, doesn't it ? Yahel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android

[android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-15 Thread Moto
Yes, I believe this very much concerns developers because most of the time, based on this revenue, it is what makes a developer want to continue developing... Yahel, I also believe that applications shouldn't abuse the user with ads. I believe that ads should be carefully placed to flow with the

Re: [android-developers] Re: Ads in apps... How to successfully generate a larger revenue?

2010-03-15 Thread Wayne Wenthin
There is AdWhirl that will allow you to serve up from different providers. I have not tried it yet but since I have both admob, which was doing very well for me, and Mobclix I may try to do them both. I found it interesting that while keeping the ad rotation interval the same between the two I