[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-30 Thread Krischik Martin
On 25 Mrz., 21:07, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:26 AM, Krischik Martin martin.krisc...@noser.com wrote: Did you actually read the terms and conditions for developers and suppliers? Or are you just an Amazon-Fanboy believing that is must be good

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-30 Thread Krischik Martin
On Mar 29, 4:19 pm, Kevin TeslaCoil Software ke...@teslacoilsw.com wrote: Opera has just launched its own Mobile App Store And instead of contacting developers to get them to submit their apps before launch, Opera just populated it with pirated software... Not a good way to gain developer

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-30 Thread Krischik Martin
On Mar 29, 7:09 pm, Kevin TeslaCoil Software ke...@teslacoilsw.com wrote: Some more details, it was WidgetLocker 1.2.2, which is from July 2010 and several versions out of date. It was named WidgetLockr (Pirate spelling?). It was an unmodified APK signed by me, the one I had posted to the

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-30 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
I see that Handago offers paid apps for Android, with trial period feature. Anyone know what kind of licensing scheme / library is behind this? Do they just point to Market for downloads (like AppBrain, etc.) or have their own solution (like AndroidPIT)? -- Kostya 30.03.2011 19:10, Krischik

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-30 Thread Krischik Martin
On Mar 30, 5:27 pm, Kostya Vasilyev kmans...@gmail.com wrote: I see that Handago offers paid apps for Android, with trial period feature. Anyone know what kind of licensing scheme / library is behind this? That is up to you. The offer the ability to upload two version of the app, one for the

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-29 Thread Kevin TeslaCoil Software
Opera has just launched its own Mobile App Store And instead of contacting developers to get them to submit their apps before launch, Opera just populated it with pirated software... Not a good way to gain developer support or credibility. -Kevin On Mar 25, 2:07 pm, Fernando Cassia

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-29 Thread Nathan
On Mar 29, 1:19 pm, Kevin TeslaCoil Software ke...@teslacoilsw.com wrote: Opera has just launched its own Mobile App Store And instead of contacting developers to get them to submit their apps before launch, Opera just populated it with pirated software... Not a good way to gain developer

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-29 Thread Kevin TeslaCoil Software
Some more details, it was WidgetLocker 1.2.2, which is from July 2010 and several versions out of date. It was named WidgetLockr (Pirate spelling?). It was an unmodified APK signed by me, the one I had posted to the Android Market (no LVL at that time). I contacted Opera with a DMCA takedown

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-29 Thread Brill Pappin
Ahh... now I begin to see the connections! Thats the App store that the Viewsonic G-Tablet comes with pre-installed and its terrible. That non-google market fact was my second biggest disappointment with that tablet (the first being the terrible launcher). If your stuff is in that app store, I

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:26 AM, Krischik Martin martin.krisc...@noser.com wrote: Did you actually read the terms and conditions for developers and suppliers? Or are you just an Amazon-Fanboy believing that is must be good because it is from mighty Amazon? Luckily for us with an interest in

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
And your opinion is above other people´s opinions?. Opinions are like arseholes. Everybody´s got one. So either accept that or ST*U?. I certainly won´t criticize or insult others for voicing an opinion. FC On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 6:41 PM, niko20 nikolatesl...@yahoo.com wrote: More idiots

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-28 Thread Brill Pappin
I don't know, I've written a lot of j2me apps, and I can't say that I'm sorry to see it go. - Brill Pappin Sixgreen Labs Inc. On 2011-03-25, at 3:07 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:26 AM, Krischik Martin martin.krisc...@noser.com wrote: Did you actually read the

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-26 Thread Michael A.
Unfortunately, from what I've seen, updates take just as long to go through their process as any normal submission. I currently have an update sitting in their system that has been in it for a week already (I'm almost ready to release the next update). This is definitely something they need to

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-26 Thread cellurl
I submitted 4, 3 have been under review for 2 months almost. One went thru in a week. The under review is a business-NO. Bezos=Jobs On Mar 23, 12:38 pm, Matt M matthew.mag...@gmail.com wrote:  To those who have submitted apps to Amazon how long did it take between submitting and approval?

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread Krischik Martin
On 24 Mrz., 11:07, Pent supp...@apps.dinglisch.net wrote: Larger reach? At the moment it is US only for Buyer. And the payment conditions for outside US Seller are plain horrible. I should coco. If that means what I think it means. Well, I mean that US Bankers Cheques are not helpfully

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread Krischik Martin
On 24 Mrz., 15:49, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Krischik Martin I don't see any advantage apart from the Amazon brand itself. Do you? Developer Support. Did you actually read the terms and conditions for developers and suppliers? Or are you just an

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread Zsolt Vasvari
Even if you find the TC unacceptable, you should be happy that this alternate market exists. Do you want the Google Market to imporve? -- because without competition, it won't. The lack of customer support in the Google Market is appalling. Wait until you have to have a problem of your own

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread Krischik Martin
On 25 Mrz., 09:15, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: Even if you find the TC unacceptable, you should be happy that this alternate market exists. No, my fear is that Amazon will use there (excellent) brand name to push an inferior product.  Do you want the Google Market to improve? --

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread String
On Friday, March 25, 2011 7:26:11 AM UTC, Krischik Martin wrote: Or are you just an Amazon-Fanboy believing that is must be good because it is from mighty Amazon? No, I believe he's *becoming* an Amazon-Fanboy because of the negative experiences on Google's Market over the last two years,

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread TreKing
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:33 AM, Krischik Martin krisc...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: On 25 Mrz., 09:15, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: Even if you find the TC unacceptable, you should be happy that this alternate market exists. No, my fear is that Amazon will use there

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread Brill Pappin
... and a single point for cracking. I should not have rebuild for every market! - Brill Pappin Sixgreen Labs Inc. On 2011-03-24, at 5:05 PM, TreKing wrote: On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Brill Pappin bpap...@sixgreen.com wrote: Once again, you need to be able to tell which market you

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread Brill Pappin
That doesn't make sense. I'm a little (or more) annoyed that I can't purchase from the store, although I can still sell to US customers. However I'm sure that the market will open up as amazon works out the bugs. - Brill Pappin Sixgreen Labs Inc. On 2011-03-24, at 6:40 PM, Indicator

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread Brill Pappin
Dude, making an argument on spelling is a but juvenile don't you think? - Brill Pappin Sixgreen Labs Inc. On 2011-03-24, at 6:42 PM, Indicator Veritatis wrote: Your argument would be more compelling if you could spell the name of the market you mention correctly: it is SlideMe.com, not

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread Brill Pappin
But thats just it, the point people are making is that despite the problems with the Google Market, the Amazon Market is even worse (except for the customer service apparently). The TOS *is* crappy in this day and age, particularly for non US companies. Who the hell mails cheques anymore?

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread Justin Anderson
* What all these Markets should be doing is making sure that they interoperate, because us developers *do* want to deploy to all of them, but we don't need the extra work of maintaining several versions or deployments for each one.* In a Utopian society that would be great. And I agree it would

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread Jonas Petersson
On 2011-03-25 15:43, Brill Pappin wrote: ... and a single point for cracking. I should not have rebuild for every market! Exactly my sentiment. I don't mind having a bit of code that determines currentMarket() at runtime and execute slightly different code, but I don't want to build it

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread Brill Pappin
Their ROI comes from us, the developers. The more we well the more they make, and I think they should remember that. If my product is good enough to make me money, then its good enough to make them money... why would they want to make it difficult for me to deploy to their app store? - Brill

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread Daniel Drozdzewski
Yeah, there is probably Nash Equilibrium in the whole multi-market per platform world, especially that it isn't zero-sum game yet. Being open and interoperable would benefit each player in the market game in the ways that were hard to predict. The market for mobile apps and smartphones is growing

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread TreKing
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Daniel Drozdzewski daniel.drozdzew...@gmail.com wrote: TechCrunch reported today that one could buy an app by mistake, when having one-click payments enabled on their account and there is no way for refunds. I just ran into this yesterday. Only $2.85, but

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread Justin Giles
I just ran into this yesterday. Only $2.85, but now I have an app I had no interest in and will never use. I emailed them about it and have not heard back yet. Even if one has 1-click payment on, an Are You Sure dialog seems like a no-brainer, especially when the Buy button is next to each

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread Justin Anderson
*Their ROI comes from us, the developers.* *The more we well the more they make, and I think they should remember that. * They do. You have to think about it from their side of things. Working together to make it easier to submit to multiple stores causes them to use their resources (time and

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread PatternMusic
On Friday, March 25, 2011 8:00:30 AM UTC-7, MagouyaWare wrote: * What all these Markets should be doing is making sure that they interoperate, because us developers *do* want to deploy to all of them, but we don't need the extra work of maintaining several versions or deployments for

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread Justin Giles
Well, it looks like the Amazon Appstore has had its first stats true-up. My order/download stats just dropped by around 60% at this last update. Yes, that includes purchases as well. So, either people found a way to get a refund or the Appstore has been counting orders incorrectly thus far.

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread TreKing
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:56 AM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: I just ran into this yesterday. Only $2.85, but now I have an app I had no interest in and will never use. I emailed them about it and have not heard back yet. Update, they refunded my accidental purchase. Goddamn I love

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread Nathan
On Mar 25, 11:20 am, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: Update, they refunded my accidental purchase. *** I love these people. Well, gee, there goes my one sale! ;) Nathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread niko20
Some things I like: 1. The client is MUCH better, can actually search and FILTER based on ratings. 2. Ratings require 25 words. This forces users to actually put something meaningful instead of crap or some other useless comment. 3. Nice developer dashboard. 4. REAL PEOPLE respond to your issues

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread niko20
So far I've made $27 in sales, that's actually not too shabby for only just starting the store out. -nik On Mar 25, 1:37 pm, Nathan critter...@crittermap.com wrote: On Mar 25, 11:20 am, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: Update, they refunded my accidental purchase. *** I love these

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread Brill Pappin
I think we should not forget, that we as the people who write the software, we actually have a lot more power over this than we ever actually use. - Brill Pappin Sixgreen Labs Inc. On 2011-03-25, at 1:19 PM, Justin Anderson wrote: Their ROI comes from us, the developers. The more we

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread niko20
Well I knew this was coming, and sure enough here we go: More FUD: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/03/amazon-app-store-security/ More idiots feeling that they need to share their opinion. -nik On Mar 25, 4:34 pm, Brill Pappin bpap...@sixgreen.com wrote: I think we should not forget, that

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread niko20
Well I knew this was coming, and sure enough here we go: More FUD: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/03/amazon-app-store-security/ More idiots feeling that they need to share their opinion. -nik On Mar 25, 4:34 pm, Brill Pappin bpap...@sixgreen.com wrote: I think we should not forget,

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread Brill Pappin
Even though I find working on this stuff extremely fun and rewarding, i'm not spending as much time as I am on it for free. Its just not going to happen, because life is too busy. I have to agree on the purpose of the app store and the market. its about being competitive (although in googles

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread niko20
Well I knew this was coming, and sure enough here we go: More FUD: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/03/amazon-app-store-security/ More idiots feeling that they need to share their opinion. -nik On Mar 25, 4:34 pm, Brill Pappin bpap...@sixgreen.com wrote: I think we should not forget,

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread niko20
Well I knew this was coming, and sure enough here we go: More FUD: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/03/amazon-app-store-security/ More idiots feeling that they need to share their opinion. -nik On Mar 25, 4:34 pm, Brill Pappin bpap...@sixgreen.com wrote: I think we should not forget,

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread Nathan
On Mar 25, 11:37 am, Nathan critter...@crittermap.com wrote: On Mar 25, 11:20 am, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: Update, they refunded my accidental purchase. *** I love these people. Well, gee, there goes my one sale! ;) Nathan I guess it wasn't Treking. This one person says that

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread niko20
Sorry for the spam, the interet wasn't working right On Mar 25, 6:13 pm, Nathan critter...@crittermap.com wrote: On Mar 25, 11:37 am, Nathan critter...@crittermap.com wrote: On Mar 25, 11:20 am, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: Update, they refunded my accidental purchase. *** I love

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread Nathan
On Mar 25, 4:13 pm, Nathan critter...@crittermap.com wrote: On Mar 25, 11:37 am, Nathan critter...@crittermap.com wrote: On Mar 25, 11:20 am, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: Update, they refunded my accidental purchase. *** I love these people. Well, gee, there goes my one sale!

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-25 Thread Brill Pappin
I have once or twice needed to deploy an update hours after a deployment because of sill setting i forgot to deploy, or some bug on a particular platform that I missed during testing. If it took two weeks for my customers to get an update, I think I'd have lost them. - Brill Pappin Sixgreen

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-24 Thread Krischik Martin
On 22 Mrz., 11:47, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: I have one word to sum it up as:  Hooray!! Which Hooray? Open to US only and with condition which turn independent developers into serf. Thanks, but no thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-24 Thread Pent
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-24 Thread Marcin Orlowski
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[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-24 Thread String
On Thursday, March 24, 2011 6:29:51 AM UTC, Krischik Martin wrote: Which Hooray? Open to US only and with condition which turn independent developers into serf. Thanks, but no thanks. If you don't like it, you don't have to list your apps there. That's the big hooray IMHO: *choice*. There's

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-24 Thread Krischik Martin
On 24 Mrz., 09:21, String sterling.ud...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thursday, March 24, 2011 6:29:51 AM UTC, Krischik Martin wrote: Which Hooray? Open to US only and with condition which turn independent developers into serf. Thanks, but no thanks. If you don't like it, you don't have to

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-24 Thread Pent
Better conditions? For the Buyer: yes. For the Seller: No - the most horrible condition of them all. My favourite is 'we can undercut your own app listed on other markets whenever we like at your own expense, good eh ?'. Larger reach? At the moment it is US only for Buyer. And the payment

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-24 Thread Justin Giles
Second update: Amazon updated my app's title and descriptions and they're still edited but *much* more in line with what I submitted in the description. I'm a happy panda now. Hot damn I love these people. Developer support rules! Something that you need to check is your Keywords. I

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-24 Thread TreKing
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Krischik Martin martin.krisc...@noser.comwrote: Well, this has made me have a look on how credible the alternative we already had for month? More apps? No Amazon is middle field here: Google: 150'000 Android Apps SlimeME: 7'600 Android Apps pdassi: 4'000

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-24 Thread String
Good tip about the keywords. It appears that apps aren't searchable on terms in the description, only name and keywords. And as you said, my apps either had ridiculously general keywords (for one it was app application), or none at all. String -- You received this message because you are

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-24 Thread Gregg Reno
Have you all noticed a big discrepancy between the order counts on the Amazon AppStore home dashboard and what is shown in the Reports page? The counts for me on the home page are about one third of what shows in the reports page -Gregg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-24 Thread Chris Stewart
Is anyone noticing a sales jump from the Amazon store? I know it's early and hard to really judge for long term. However, with the launch getting so much buzz, I would expect people to be getting decent downloads relative to their Market numbers. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-24 Thread Brill Pappin
Yes, when you submit your app you can check the DRM checkbox or not, just like you used to do with googles market. There does not appear to be any LVL type of library for Amazon (that I was able to find). All a crack will need to do is crack the Amazon market and all apps you download are

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-24 Thread Brill Pappin
Have to say i'm not to happy about that myself. in fact I'd say they don't have the right, but then i guess its their app store... it concerns me that they will simply rewrite it without you reviewing it though. Despite the appearance of them caring with their customer support, their actions

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-24 Thread Brill Pappin
Laugh!! so much for getting a better market :) - Brill Pappin Sixgreen Labs Inc. On 2011-03-24, at 2:18 PM, Gregg Reno wrote: Have you all noticed a big discrepancy between the order counts on the Amazon AppStore home dashboard and what is shown in the Reports page? The counts for me

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-24 Thread Justin Anderson
At least they are consistent with all of their different stores though... The main things people are complaining about are that the descriptions get edited and they essential have full control over price. They also do this with anything else that is listed on their website... If they changed it

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-24 Thread TreKing
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Brill Pappin bpap...@sixgreen.com wrote: Once again, you need to be able to tell which market you installed from in order to adjust your links to the correct market. All that takes is a single compile-time flag.

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-24 Thread Indicator Veritatis
Now that I have seen this complaint, I feel the need to treat with greater skepticism ANY claim that any of the markets are treating developers as serfs. On Mar 23, 11:29 pm, Krischik Martin martin.krisc...@noser.com wrote: On 22 Mrz., 11:47, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: I have one

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-24 Thread Indicator Veritatis
Your argument would be more compelling if you could spell the name of the market you mention correctly: it is SlideMe.com, not SlimeMe.com! Though I have to say: that latter would make a good name for a website with a rather different purpose, such as spreading slimey accusations of people... On

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-24 Thread Michael A.
On Mar 24, 9:34 pm, Justin Anderson magouyaw...@gmail.com wrote: The main things people are complaining about are that the descriptions get edited and they essential have full control over price. Personally, I rather prefer their descriptions of my apps to their own. I can understand why one

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-23 Thread Marcin Orlowski
Not that I am surprised too much. Frankly, what surprised me most, was the fact that you got no influence on how DRM is applied to your app. With LVL you could at least mess with checking code to some degree, which makes automated attacks futile. With Amazon's approach you got one ring to rule

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-23 Thread Christer Nordvik
How do all of you take into account: - C2DM (push messaging only available on Android Market) - House-ads via AdMob that links to apps in the Android Market - In-app purchasing that is coming soon on the Android Market - Links to additional content in Android Market from your app Are you all

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-23 Thread Michael A.
On Mar 23, 12:00 pm, Christer Nordvik cnord...@gmail.com wrote: - C2DM (push messaging only available on Android Market) Haven't used this, but are you sure this is a feature limited to the Android market? - House-ads via AdMob that links to apps in the Android Market You could always add in

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-23 Thread Mark Murphy
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Michael A. michael.aki...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 23, 12:00 pm, Christer Nordvik cnord...@gmail.com wrote: - C2DM (push messaging only available on Android Market) Haven't used this, but are you sure this is a feature limited to the Android market? The device

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-23 Thread Michael A.
Ah well, if it's just a matter of the device _having_ Android market installed, it shouldn't be much of a problem - most phones will still have that, after all. One should probably ensure that the code degrades gracefully, though, since such devices are probably likely to become more common in

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-23 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
A device manufacturer can only preinstall Market on their device is it passes Android certification tests. So a device without Market, at this point, may have all kinds of incompatible implementation weirdness (and many do - e.g. Android-based book readers). Installing a 3rd party application

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-23 Thread Mark Murphy
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Kostya Vasilyev kmans...@gmail.com wrote: A device manufacturer can only preinstall Market on their device is it passes Android certification tests. So a device without Market, at this point, may have all kinds of incompatible implementation weirdness (and

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-23 Thread Michael A.
Um... which is why I recommended ensuring the app degrades gracefully. In this respect, distributing the app through the amazon market is no different than any other independent app market. Assuming the presence of the Android market is probably never a good idea. Regards, Michael A. On Mar

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-23 Thread Brill Pappin
Arrg! I just went to try and deploy one of our apps, but they seem to be using the old style (DRM?) licensing. Now i have to break my apps just to deploy them or maintain separate code copies or even separate apps! So far I'm more impressed with the lame-but-improving Google Market. Does anyone

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-23 Thread TreKing
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Marcin Orlowski webnet.andr...@gmail.comwrote: On 22 March 2011 16:00, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Marcin Orlowski webnet.andr...@gmail.com wrote: Did sad panda mail amazon staff about that? Not yet, but I will.

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

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[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-23 Thread Nathan
On Mar 23, 5:37 am, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Kostya Vasilyev kmans...@gmail.com wrote: A device manufacturer can only preinstall Market on their device is it passes Android certification tests. So a device without Market, at this point,

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-23 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
Do you mean they use Android's deprecated copy protection? Do they have anything similar to the LVL for licensing checks, or is it if it was allowed to download, it must have been paid for? 23.03.2011 23:16 пользователь Brill Pappin bpap...@sixgreen.com написал: Arrg! I just went to try and

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-23 Thread Zsolt Vasvari
Side-note, I sold my first Amazon copy of my app (bringing the total up to an incredible ONE!) and am $2.10 richer! Woot! I'm hitting the dollar store after work and splurging on TWO things! =P LOL, you could (almost) ride the CTA once with that kind of cash... -- You received this message

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-23 Thread Russell DuRoss
I agree with the week or 2 for Paid apps, but I have a Free app that's been in the queue for several weeks - I'm thinking they're giving review preference to the Paid ones, which would make sense, of course. On Mar 23, 1:38 pm, Matt M matthew.mag...@gmail.com wrote:  To those who have submitted

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-23 Thread Gregg Reno
I'm not that happy about Amazon changing the descriptions without me reviewing it first, but they have been very responsive to my requests. I usually get something back from them the same day. What I am happy about are my sales numbers. Not sure if this is just a first day thing, but my sales

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-23 Thread sogwiz
Took about 1 week each for both the original version and for the updated version of the app. This was prior to the appstore being launched so those time durations may have since changed. On Mar 23, 10:38 am, Matt M matthew.mag...@gmail.com wrote:  To those who have submitted apps to Amazon how

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-23 Thread TreKing
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: Side-note, I sold my first Amazon copy of my app (bringing the total up to an incredible ONE!) and am $2.10 richer! Woot! I'm hitting the dollar store after work and splurging on TWO things! =P LOL, you could

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-22 Thread String
Amazon almost always introduces new services on their home turf first. Other countries will come. I'm just happy that, at the moment, one of my apps is #1 in its category. Open in the USA only is better than not open at all! String -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-22 Thread webmonkey
Angry Birds Rio is getting a lot of 1-star reviews form non-US users who are unable to get the app. I have even seen a review from an iPad user who was unable to download the app via Safari. How on earth is it possible that these users can review the app! It is the Android Market all over again.

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-22 Thread Marcin Orlowski
On 22 March 2011 13:52, webmonkey webmonke...@gmail.com wrote: Angry Birds Rio is getting a lot of 1-star reviews form non-US users who are unable to get the app. I have even seen a review from an iPad user who was unable to download the app via Safari. How on earth is it possible that these

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-22 Thread Ralf Schneider
Yes giving the developers a 1-star rating is not nice. On the other hand I understand the frustration: It's the worldwide internet we are connect to. Apps a virtual goods transfered via the inter-tubes. Payment is done with worldwide operating credit card companies. For a potential customer in

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-22 Thread niko20
Well crap, my apps' description is entirely missing for some reason. Well that's the Amazon experience I've been having all along with this thing...really feels half assed pretty much always... -n On Mar 22, 8:35 am, Justin Giles jtgi...@gmail.com wrote: Hm, I do not see anythink like that for

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-22 Thread Jonas Petersson
On 2011-03-22 14:42, niko20 wrote: Well crap, my apps' description is entirely missing for some reason. Well that's the Amazon experience I've been having all along with this thing...really feels half assed pretty much always... Well, one of my apps was refused since I had a reference to

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-22 Thread TreKing
Do you guy's apps have the original descriptions and bullet points you submitted? It seems like Amazon just wrote their own marketing descriptions ... - TreKing

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-22 Thread Justin Giles
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:09 AM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: Do you guy's apps have the original descriptions and bullet points you submitted? It seems like Amazon just wrote their own marketing descriptions ... Wow. I just noticed that mine was modified as well. It actually make

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-22 Thread Chris Stewart
Do you guy's apps have the original descriptions and bullet points you submitted? It seems like Amazon just wrote their own marketing descriptions ... Wow. I just noticed that mine was modified as well. It actually make it sound more polished, but some of the concepts are wrong.

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-22 Thread String
In fairness, they did say they were going to edit the descriptions: http://www.amazonappstoredev.com/2011/02/when-submitting-the-assets-for-your-app-to-the-amazon-appstore-developer-portal-youll-have-the-opportunity-to-write-a-de.html This has been done for all but one of my apps. String --

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-22 Thread Justin Giles
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:23 AM, String sterling.ud...@googlemail.comwrote: In fairness, they did say they were going to edit the descriptions:

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-22 Thread TreKing
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:23 AM, String sterling.ud...@googlemail.comwrote: In fairness, they did say they were going to edit the descriptions: True. But feels more like rewrite than an edit. My description does not match what I submitted at all, save for th general idea. Also, I call my free

[android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-22 Thread blindfold
Indeed today I found that the description for my app was rewritten too by Amazon, and in my case I do not really mind the more polished style, although I take no responsibility for any flaws or too much hype in the modified description. Regards, The vOICe for Android

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-22 Thread Marcin Orlowski
On 22 March 2011 15:34, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: Also, I call my free version TreKing (Chicago) 4 Free (har har, get it!?) - they changed the title to TreKing (Chicago) Lite. I flipping hate the lite moniker. I am a sad panda. Did sad panda mail amazon staff about that?

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-22 Thread TreKing
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Marcin Orlowski webnet.andr...@gmail.comwrote: Did sad panda mail amazon staff about that? Not yet, but I will. And I'll get a response from a human being! -

Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!

2011-03-22 Thread Justin Giles
An initial look at the reporting indicates that the stats are delayed a few hours, but it looks like it updates periodically throughout the day. Some items are a bit confusing as there's a discrepancy between downloads and orders. I guess orders are total number of click to download items and

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