[android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-09-05 Thread Micax
Hi, On Aug 17, 9:38 pm, Katie Smith ka...@grayfinstudios.com wrote: Advice on how to respond -http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/07/cost-efficient-way-for-app-de... Google the author of this blog. Even if you ignore the somewhat shaky reputation that he has in the open source community

[android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-09-01 Thread Sheado
Hi All, We just got our Lodsys notice as well. This is ridiculous and a direct obstacle to innovation in the US. Any other advice on how to handle this? Would it be possible for all of us developers to join together in a class-action lawsuit? -Chad On Aug 28, 9:56 am, Russell DuRoss

[android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-09-01 Thread JackNorthNexus
On Sep 1, 2:13 pm, Sheado chad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We just got our Lodsys notice as well. This is ridiculous and a direct obstacle to innovation in the US. Any other advice on how to handle this? Would it be possible for all of us developers to join together in a class-action

[android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-08-28 Thread Russell DuRoss
Their site suggests they are interested in engaging in a discussion about an appropriate licensing amount. So maybe respond to them indicating that you are willing to negotiate and in the same response include enough info so they can see that you are a small developer. When they see your response

Re: [android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-08-27 Thread Andy
Question would be as super small developer whats the easiest Exit Strategy. A Patent Lawer in the US easily costs serveral hundert $/hour. Their strategy might be that this effort is too big for most of us. (Especially from Europe / laguage barrier) So after reading

Re: [android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-08-27 Thread Christopher Van Kirk
They want 0.575% of your gross, past, present and future. On 8/27/2011 6:58 PM, Andy wrote: Question would be as super small developer whats the easiest Exit Strategy. A Patent Lawer in the US easily costs serveral hundert $/hour. Their strategy might be that this effort is too big for most

Re: [android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-08-27 Thread Michael Banzon
What is the patent number they refer to? On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Christopher Van Kirk christopher.vank...@gmail.com wrote: They want 0.575% of your gross, past, present and future. On 8/27/2011 6:58 PM, Andy wrote: Question would be as super small developer whats the easiest Exit

Re: [android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-08-27 Thread Andy
I'm only accused for 7,222,078 (the in app billing) beside my app has no in-app purchase or upgrade. It's simply a http link to the android market.I think they are sure that their patent covers the process behind this?!?!. But if so, this would ment, that even web-Applications are not

Re: [android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-08-18 Thread Richard Schilling
I'm not a patent lawyer either so this isn't advice - it's just my understanding of what your options might be. Sounds like you just got an official notice explaining why you can't write your software the way you have. It's their case. You can, of course prove Lodsys wrong if you do have

[android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-08-17 Thread Albert
They are known to have attacked IPhone developers in the past. Maybe they are having a go at Android?? On Aug 17, 1:56 pm, David Erosa García soul...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 2:48 PM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 6:52 AM, David Erosa García

[android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-08-17 Thread Santiago Lema
Yeah, I am expecting my letter anytime soon like everyone. Frankly, I'd ignore them until they file legal procedure and actually manage to remove your app from sale. They just don't have funds to start a real legal action against every small dev. For now they only paid to print their shit. At

Re: [android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-08-17 Thread Jim Graham
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 06:41:29AM -0700, Albert wrote: They are known to have attacked IPhone developers in the past. Maybe they are having a go at Android?? It's been going on for a while, now. And based on some of the gripes I've read about, anything with a CPU, RAM, any method of

[android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-08-17 Thread Chris
Google's finally stepped in to help, with the intention of hopefully invalidating Lodsys's patents: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2391070,00.asp Cheers, - C -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group,

Re: [android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-08-17 Thread Christopher Van Kirk
They are playing a numbers game. I believe their real target is impressionable indies who cow at the prospect of conflict. If they get one in a hundred app developers to pay them off, they will end up with a decent chunk of change. The actual lawsuits are probably just facades to try to prove

[android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-08-17 Thread Katie Smith
David, I'm sorry you are going through this. I put together a list of resources for those of you that have received letters from Lodsys. I will add to it as I find out more information. If you have the contact information for a developer advocate at Google, I suggest talking to them as well.

Re: [android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-08-17 Thread David Erosa García
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Katie Smith ka...@grayfinstudios.com wrote: David, I'm sorry you are going through this. Thanks, this is something I wish for noone... I put together a list of resources for those of you that have received letters from Lodsys. I will add to it as I find out

Re: [android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-08-17 Thread Christopher Van Kirk
Fear is what these guys want you to have. It makes their bank for them. On 8/18/2011 3:38 AM, Katie Smith wrote: David, I'm sorry you are going through this. I put together a list of resources for those of you that have received letters from Lodsys. I will add to it as I find out more

Re: [android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-08-17 Thread David Erosa García
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Christopher Van Kirk christopher.vank...@gmail.com wrote: Fear is what these guys want you to have. It makes their bank for them. I do really understand your point of view, but if I can barely pay my bills... how in hell could I get into legal actions against

Re: [android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-08-17 Thread Christopher Van Kirk
Turn it around for a second. Why the hell are they pursuing you when their expected return if you go to court is negative? These guys don't make any products. They have no business other than shaking down indie app developers with that patent of theirs, so it's not like they're trying to chase

Re: [android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-08-17 Thread Jim Graham
Speaking as someone who, thankfully, is NOT a lawyer, I have to wonder Has anyone filed a countersuit against Lodsys? It would make sense, to me, at least File for all legal and court fees, any travel/expenses fees I racked up, plus about $30 million in punitive damages (knowing that it

Re: [android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-08-17 Thread Kristopher Micinski
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20070645-264/lodsys-patent-attack-now-targets-best-buy-adidas/ Apparently getting sued by Lodsys is the new black. Kris On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Jim Graham spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking as someone who, thankfully, is NOT a lawyer, I have to

Re: [android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-08-17 Thread Jim Graham
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 08:42:33PM -0400, Kristopher Micinski wrote: http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20070645-264/lodsys-patent-attack-now-targets-best-buy-adidas/ Apparently getting sued by Lodsys is the new black. Please translate into English. Thanks, --jim -- 73 DE N5IAL (/4)

Re: [android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-08-17 Thread Kristopher Micinski
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Jim Graham spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 08:42:33PM -0400, Kristopher Micinski wrote: http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20070645-264/lodsys-patent-attack-now-targets-best-buy-adidas/ Apparently getting sued by Lodsys is the new black.

Re: [android-developers] Re: Just received Lodsys letter...

2011-08-17 Thread Brad Gies
No, and nobody is really going to file a counter suit against them. They have been very careful to setup their Business so that there is nothing to go after. After all, they had time to prepare, and they knew someone would try to come after them if they gave them an opportunity. Sincerely,