Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-10-04 Thread { Devdroid }
On 3 October 2010 00:58, Lance Nanek lna...@gmail.com wrote: you have some automatic tools to do that or something I never saw in my console ? Seems like a daunting task ... I ended up writing a web scraper for the publishing console using HtmlUnit. Mind sharing? -- You received this

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-10-01 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
Maybe they are counting updates as new installs for a limited time, just like they were counting them as uninstalls before? -- Kostya Vasilyev -- http://kmansoft.wordpress.com 01.10.2010 13:01 пользователь Peter Sinnott psinn...@gmail.com написал: Something has changed but I think they fixed

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-10-01 Thread { Devdroid }
On 1 October 2010 15:43, Yahel kaye...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Sorry but I see you giving percentage and all about your date, just so I know, do you guys actually go everyday on the developper console and record in some kind of excel sheet the numbers you find there ? Or do you have some

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-10-01 Thread Justin Giles
Also, when a developer has a slight case of OCD when it comes to how well his/her app is doing, hundreds of visits to the dashboard a day to see stat updates, new comments, new sales is not out of the question. Over time, current and past percentages get ingrained in your head! :) Justin On

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-30 Thread Greg Donald
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:12 PM, scott19_68 sw.cop...@gmail.com wrote: FYI:  Updated one of my apps that was affected by this issue - active install percentage holding steady now, but has not returned to anywhere close to 4 weeks ago.  Would like to know if past cases where updates were

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-30 Thread Justin Giles
I updated one of my apps on Tuesday. I have noticed that the active install numbers were accumulating at a higher rate than my download numbers. So, I think as people update the app, it is putting the active installs back to normal. So far I've only gone up 1%, but it's nice to see it seemingly

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-30 Thread Greg Donald
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Justin Giles jtgi...@gmail.com wrote: I updated one of my apps on Tuesday.  I have noticed that the active install numbers were accumulating at a higher rate than my download numbers.  So, I think as people update the app, it is putting the active installs back

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-20 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
On 9/18/10 12:59 , Brad Gies wrote: Actually, I am very impressed with the response, and I hope you thanked them. It would be good to encourage the Market people to respond to this kind of stuff :). For sure I personally thank people at Google working on the issue and bugs happen, so not

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-18 Thread Brad Gies
My guess from the wording of the answer is that market will be able to adjust the numbers when apps check for updates. But, it's just a guess :). Sincerely, Brad Gies --- Bistro Bot - Bistro Blurb http://bgies.com

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-18 Thread Tomáš Hubálek
That's crazy. I'm really curios why they are not able to deliver reliable metrics. First issue of such a nature occurred four or five months ago and still not fixed. What is so difficult on this metric? I always thought that Google employs first class brains, best in the industry. They are able

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-18 Thread Brad Gies
Actually, I am very impressed with the response, and I hope you thanked them. It would be good to encourage the Market people to respond to this kind of stuff :). It's also a bit of relieve to me. I released a Beta app about 3 weeks ago, and several updates since then fixing problems, and

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-15 Thread Tomáš Hubálek
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 4:44 AM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: Posted this in the other thread. We received a comment from the Market people: Thanks for writing in. We are currently investigating this issue. So far, this appears to be purely a reporting issue: some update events are

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-15 Thread Tomáš Hubálek
The same. I'm absolutely not able to track whether newly implemented changes caused more active installs or less active installs. I really don't understand why omnipotent Google is not able to fix so trivial stuff like reporting. I would like to get explanation what is preventing them from make

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-15 Thread TreKing
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 6:35 AM, Droid rod...@gmail.com wrote: If you put an update out it tempts a few (me usually) to uninstall the App - I usually figure that its not worth my time updating it Interesting. I'm usually curious to see what has been added (if anything) so I always update -

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-14 Thread TreKing
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Doug beafd...@gmail.com wrote: Original poster here. Still doing worse. High of 70%, was at 54% on Aug 14 when I first posted, now at 36%. Uninstalls are still happening at a higher rate than installs. Gauging from feedback, overall satisfaction is still

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-13 Thread TreKing
Everyone with this issue should try this link: http://www.google.com/support/androidmarket/bin/request.py?contact_type=publisher Meanwhile my paid app % is approaching that of my free version, which is simply ridiculous, and I've dropped 3 spots in my category. How are you guys doing? Better,

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-13 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/13/10 20:11 , Zsolt Vasvari wrote: My app, one day last week dropped 3%, which is almost impossible. I have a 4.87 with 70 ratings... For me, it seems now stable at 31/32%. Active installs are now increasing again. A few positive reviews and

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-11 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/10/10 23:57 , tdieckman wrote: Second, I have a paid license key for my app on the market. I've been keeping records daily to watch trends (why can't the console do this for us)? Anyway, my total sales figure right now is 584 paid downloads,

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-10 Thread Jonas Petersson
On 09/10/2010 08:10 AM, metal mikey wrote: My hypothesis is that since instructions came out as to how to setup the emulator with Android Marketplace, spammers/weirdos have used tons of gmail accounts to download Apps then uninstall them with the intent of throwing stats off. I have not clue

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-10 Thread Jonas Petersson
On 09/10/2010 09:51 PM, Peter Sinnott wrote: [...] In short, market place goes nuts and forgets the app is installed. User has app but never gets updates and possibly is removed from active installs. Well, I've seen several more confusing things related to Market installs and upgrades in the

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-10 Thread Tomáš Hubálek
WE DEFINITELY NEED GOOGLE'S EXPLANATION Something is going wrong and nobody explained it. I believe we should move to http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market?hl=en and ask Google's employees for explanation. Tom On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Peter Sinnott psinn...@gmail.com

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-10 Thread TreKing
2010/9/10 Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com I believe we should move to http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market?hl=en and ask Google's employees for explanation. That's being tried: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=2ad7b50d916b941bhl=en So far

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-10 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
This is sad, but kind of brings up another question, which I don't think anyone on this list can answer: Is Google really serious about creating a viable ecosystem for developers around Android Market? Or are things considered more or less fine the way they are? Or, to rephrase this slightly

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-10 Thread Greg Donald
2010/9/10 Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com: WE DEFINITELY NEED GOOGLE'S EXPLANATION Something is going wrong and nobody explained it. I believe we should move to http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market?hl=en and ask Google's employees for explanation. Tom Google doesn't do

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-10 Thread TreKing
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Kostya Vasilyev kmans...@gmail.com wrote: Is Google really serious about creating a viable ecosystem for developers around Android Market? If actions speak louder than words, I think that's a resounding NO. Is Market a priority in the same way as selling

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-05 Thread TreKing
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't that odd? Indeed. Did you see what happens to the counts if you uninstall them? - TreKing

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-05 Thread Tomáš Hubálek
If you need assistance with controlled installs/uninstalls I can help you with two phones, just send me instructions to my email. Tom On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: I will try that right now. Good thinking. Report back tomorrow. -John

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-04 Thread TreKing
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it wrote: BTW, I find it very disturbing that nobody from Google has confirmed that there are no ongoing known bugs with the Market, as I and others have asked about in this thread. Really? That's really par for the

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-03 Thread Brad Gies
This is just a question that I have been wondering about related to this. When I published one of my apps many months ago, I selected All Locations. However, I only have data in my app for Canada, and the US., and it is English only. The app would be handy for any English speaker that is

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-09-03 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/3/10 21:03 , Brad Gies wrote: This is just a question that I have been wondering about related to this. When I published one of my apps many months ago, I selected All Locations. However, I only have data in my app for Canada, and the

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-08-31 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/31/10 00:00 , Doug wrote: Here's a scary thought. What if, during development, every time you installed and uninstalled your app on your phone, Android phones home with an uninstall. Maybe that's a new feature of Froyo. Please, someone

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-08-31 Thread Tomáš Hubálek
Hello, I believe that this is some systemic issue with Android Market. Look at average deltas of my two apps. Both dropped significantly around August 28, 2010 and now they are getting slowly to original values. One my app: Date Average daily delta 3.8.2010 20:00:00 1

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-08-31 Thread Simon Platten
As google take a percentage of every sale surely its in there interest to get this right? Kind regards, Sy On 31 Aug 2010 09:01, Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I believe that this is some systemic issue with Android Market. Look at average deltas of my two apps. Both dropped

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-08-31 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/31/10 10:04 , Simon Platten wrote: As google take a percentage of every sale surely its in there interest to get this right? In the past there have been bugs related to some apps not being visible on the Market (see Tim Bray's blog). I suppose

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-08-31 Thread Tomáš Hubálek
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it wrote: As a side note, how are you guys tracking the daily history of stats? I suppose there's no automated way, right? So we have to set up a spreadsheet and daily copy the data, right? It is manual work. From

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-08-31 Thread { Devdroid }
As a side note, how are you guys tracking the daily history of stats? I suppose there's no automated way, right? So we have to set up a spreadsheet and daily copy the data, right? There's Market API: http://code.google.com/p/android-market-api/ you may want to try to use to automate data stats

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-08-30 Thread TreKing
2010/8/30 Tomáš Hubálek tom.huba...@gmail.com I don't think that number of installs has influence on ranking. There are apps with worse rating and less downloads than mine ahead of me. I would really expect total installs to be the biggest factor. There's a big difference between the number

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-08-26 Thread TreKing
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it wrote: a commenter pointed out that when people upgrade an app the download counter might increase, while the active install doesn't That would make sense and explain why pushing out an update makes it drop

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-08-25 Thread TreKing
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen this drop as well. It's been uncharacteristically large from a historical standpoint. Same here. I've been steadily dropping and after an update over the weekend it's picked up. I'm now down

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-08-17 Thread Mark Carter
On 17 August 2010 03:15, Doug beafd...@gmail.com wrote: I think user retention rate is a great ingredient to add to the special sauce of a ranking algorithm because it's an indicator of satisfied customers. That's something you can't derive from download activity. I think of a satisfied

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-08-17 Thread TreKing
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Doug beafd...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps it has a lot to do with the way it's crippled. Many Android users have this strange notion that everything should be really free! This in particular is very annoying. I have a few comment on my free version along the

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-08-16 Thread Mark Carter
On 16 August 2010 19:41, Doug beafd...@gmail.com wrote: If Google just came clean on the algorithm that is used to calculate rankings, then we'd know for sure if there's anything to worry about. It's extremely unlikely they would do that. All we can do is try to encourage them to use a

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-08-16 Thread Mark Carter
Thanks - that's very useful (at least, for my more popular apps!) The results are definitely skewed though. For example, I'm not seeing nearly as many users from China compared to what my analytics tells me. On 16 August 2010 09:29, mathijs math...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 15, 9:40 am, Mark

Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?

2010-08-15 Thread { Devdroid }
On 15 August 2010 09:40, Mark Carter mjc1...@googlemail.com wrote: Back to the original question... yes, I've also noticed a bit of a dip in the active install % for my paid apps, though can't be sure exactly when this happened. I also find it hard to believe that so many people buy the app,