USAID: Another US Trojan Horse In Central Asia [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]

2002-06-24 Thread Rick Rozoff

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http://www.uzreport.com/eng/disp_news.cfm?ch=301dep=34vrec=4918

George Deikun - New USAID Regional Director For
Central Asia

UzReport.com Posted 23.06.2002 00:26


On June 19 George Deikun was sworn in as the U.S.
Agency for International Development's (USAID)
regional mission director for the Central Asian
Republics. He will oversee the agency's $90 million
program in Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, the Kyrgyz
Republic, Tajikistan and Turkmenistan.

A USAID press release said the goal of the program is
to expand opportunities for the citizens of the new
nations of Central Asia to improve their governance,
their livelihoods and their quality of life.

Given Central Asia's strategic importance in the war
on terrorism, USAID also is administering $43 million
in supplementary funding. USAID's goal is to expand
opportunities for the citizens of the new nations of
Central Asia to improve their governance, their
livelihoods and their quality of life.

Mr. Deikun is an officer in the Senior Foreign Service
with more than 25 years of international development
experience in Eastern Europe, Latin America and the
Caribbean, North Africa and the Middle East and West
and Central Africa. Most recently Mr. Deikun was
Deputy Director of the USAID Russia Mission. He holds
a master's degree in public administration from the
John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard
University and a master's in city and regional
planning from Rutgers University. He is fluent in
Russian and French. 

USAID is the government agency providing U.S. economic
and humanitarian assistance worldwide for more than 40
years.




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US Sharpening Knives For Romanian NATO Front Man? [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]

2002-06-24 Thread Rick Rozoff

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Financial Times

Press war clouds Romania's Nato overtures 
By Phelim McAleer in Bucharest 
Published: June 24 2002 5:00 


-The real turning point, came after the September 11
attacks, which spurred the US into wider coalition
building. Romania's helpful attitude over airspace and
overflying rights led to Nato officials telling the
government that its membership application was likely
to be accepted.
-In addition Romania has peacekeeping troops in the
Balkans and, more significantly, has just dispatched
400 men to Afghanistan. Officials regard such
deployments as an acceptance that the Romanian
military is compatible with Nato forces - and by
extension should be invited to join the alliance at
the summit in Prague.



This should have been a triumphant six months for Ioan
Pascu, the Romanian defence minister, as he appeared
to be finally steering the country towards Nato
membership.

However, this optimism has been tempered by recent
legislation and statements that have led to questions
about Romania's commitment to press freedom and
democratic values.

Ironically 18 months ago, when Mr Pascu's former
communist PSD party took power, Nato membership seemed
little more than a fantasy for the country, with its
antiquated and overmanned armed forces.

However, under the new administration led by Prime
Minister Adrian Nastase Romania and Mr Pascu, its
armed forces have made remarkable progress.

The real turning point, came after the September 11
attacks, which spurred the US into wider coalition
building. Romania's helpful attitude over airspace and
overflying rights led to Nato officials telling the
government that its membership application was likely
to be accepted.

Some western officials, though, still have lingering
doubts about corruption and the Romanian government's
authoritarian tendencies. The Romanian authorities hit
back by saying corruption was a problem in many Nato
countries.

However, it was Mr Pascu's response to what he saw as
constant sniping by the press which provided the
biggest roadblock towards Nato acceptance. After
dismissing claims that former secret police agents in
the armed forces were a worry to Nato, he issued a
terse warning to journalists, reminding them
[journalists] their life is short and health is too
precious an asset to be endangered through starting
debates that consume a lot of emotion and stress.

The remarks, which looked like a threat, provoked
outrage in Romania and eventually led to Mr Pascu
apologising - claiming it was a joke that had been
misinterpreted. The US embassy has denied local press
reports that they privately urged for Mr Pascu's
resignation. But many in the government are angry that
his comments have detracted from Romania's progress.

Mr Pascu's war on the press appears to be continuing
after a bill he introduced to parliament will force
newspapers to publish an equally prominent right of
reply on demand by those who feel they have been
wronged by a press article. The bill, which has been
passed by parliament, has been has been condemned by
civil liberties groups.

The escalation in the battle between Mr Pascu's and
journalists worries many in the country, who fear that
it may over-shadow the real achievements of his
defence ministry.

The army has been cut to less than half its 1989 peak
of 230,000 - an accomplishment hailed by diplomats and
analysts.

In addition Romania has peacekeeping troops in the
Balkans and, more significantly, has just dispatched
400 men to Afghanistan. Officials regard such
deployments as an acceptance that the Romanian
military is compatible with Nato forces - and by
extension should be invited to join the alliance at
the summit in Prague.

George Maior, Romania's state secretary, puts the
country's progress down to government policy. It is a
question of changing mentalities and then changing
institutions, making them understand that professional
virtues are needed.
 
 
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Re: RIM-Pobly fwds 11.09 *NO* Bush conspiracy article [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]

2002-06-24 Thread Rolf Martens

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[This goes to some mailing lists and also to the Usenet
newsgroups 'alt.society.revolution', 'alt.politics.socialism.
mao', 'swnet.politik', 'eunet.politics', 'alt.politics.
socialism', 'alt.politics.radical-left', 'alt.activism',
'alt.politics.communism', 'de.soc.politik.misc' and 'alt.
politics.india.communist'.]

This posting is a discussion reply and also contains an
assessment on my part of the present situation of the
US imperialists, in support of which which I'm citing some
small things which have recently taken place on and
concerning some Internet mailing lists.

At 21:56 2002-06-23 -0400, you [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote, to the ANTINATO mailing list:

In a message dated 6/23/2002 10:10:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


precisely the ones who would
be the *least* liable to be decieved by the stupid offi-
cial propaganda concerning these mass murder terror attacks
in the USA - among those who are saying NO conspiracy by
the US imperialists?


I don't think anyone on this list was deceived by it. It was sent to
show the lengths that some people will go to discredit others.
Cynthia

Yes, that's quite reasonable, I think, Cynthia. And as you say,
probably nobody on the ANTINATO list *was* deceived by that
article either: September 11th: Conspiracy-itis, by one Marty
Jezer, clearly a hack writer of the US imperialists'.

Forwarding the thing to ANTINATO, as was done by Miroslav
Antic, was quite OK, in my opinion - having that aim, as you
say, to show the desperation of the US imperialists at this
time. They really do appear to be shitty-scared! Not only are
their leaders obviously infighting like hell, with Bushy him-
self not been able to make up his mind (if any) about when and
how to speak out (or speak up, at least) on the Middle
East and stuff. Some clear shitty-scaredness has appeared also
in the behaviour on the Internet of certain tools and stooges
of theirs.

The point of my posting of course was that interesting fact
that a propagandist of that phony International the RIM
and of its equally phony leading party, the RCP-USA,
forwarded that ridiculous No, no, NO Bush conspiracy on
11.09.2001! thing, uncommented-on and thus in practice
with a recommendation, under those *different* circumstances,
to a lot of other lists.

Those are the people, as I wrote in the quote above, who
one would think were the *least* liable to be fooled on this
by the (official) US imperialists, since they are adherents
of the political line of Marx, Lenin and Mao Zedong - or so
they *say*.

Pobly (poblachtach dearg [EMAIL PROTECTED]),
who was the RIM/RCP-USA propagandist who did that
puzzling - in my opinion telltale - forwarding, earlier has
expressed his/her/its (unknown to me whether a male, a
female or perhaps a group) dislike of one article I published
back in 1994, and sent via the Net in early 1996, Why Does
the RIM Help U.S. Imperialism Encircle the PCP?, and
some other Net stuff by me in the same vein; Pobly at the
same time writing that they (unclear who) well knew that
I was not really Rolf but someone else - a theory so easy
to refute (by lots of people who've known me for decades,
for instance) that I didn't bother to reply more on this point
than just giving my own opinion on it.

The nervousness at present of the US imperialists and some
different tools and stooges of theirs show up too in some
things having to do with Internet mailing lists:

Subscribers to the Free Palestine list (above all) have
been hacked most massively, with hundreds of messages
with pro-Zionist content sent by somebody-or-other in their
names.

The pointing out, on my part, of some funny things about
the RIM and the RCP-USA, seems to have been uncomfy
to some list managers, just recently.

There's a particular group of lists called Maoism, Maoist
respectively, MaoZeDong (sic), apparently managed by
forces close to those entities. Discussions have earlier taken
place above all on one of those, Maoism. But since some
days back now, postings precisely by me (in contrast to such
by others) I don't get as coming back from that list anymore.
No message has informed me as to perhaps a reason for
this. To a newly created list in that same group, one called
Maoist_Guns, and stating expressly that you must *not*
say on it that some people are CIA, I've not been allowed
to post at all - this I was actually told.

As rather many know, I'm advocating the political line of
Marx, Lenin and Mao Zedong, and have been doing so
publicly via the Net since late 1995, with a posting series
UNITE! (etc) Infos, among other things.

The utter dislike of such stuff by some people managing
lists with precisely such names as the above, their panic
now in the face of it in fact, is one further small indication,
I think, of this: At present, the US imperialists and their
closest friends really are finding themselves in pretty deep
shit. More and more are people everywhere awakening 

Re: Berkeley Leading Change [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]

2002-06-24 Thread Rolf Martens

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One thing in the below I don't agree with: That rallies, flag-
waving, finger-pointing and taking sides would be obsolete.
It certainly is not, quite on the contrary.

But this kind of discussions and dialogue reported here as
being engaged in at Berkeley University, USA, certainly is
a (new) good thing. It does not rule out that other, and in my
opinion should be tried at universities (etc) here in Sweden
(etc) too. So this goes to some other lists as well.

Rolf M., Malmö, Sweden

At 04:21 2002-06-24 +, you (amazonmama2000
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote, to the Free Palestine
list:

At the University of California, Berkeley -- and increasingly on
other college and high school campuses -- students are discovering
healing Dialogue to replace obsolete rallies, flag-waving, finger-
pointing, and taking sides that increase alienation and fan the
flames of war.

Jewish and Arab students are not waiting for governments,
politicians, and institutions to change the world. Remarkable young
women and men are taking it on themselves to begin breaking down
walls to build long-awaited, authentic human relationships.
The newly-gathered students at Cal call themselves Salaam-Shalom.
They learn from one another, each expanding each one's own knowledge,
discovering together new compassion and creativity.

For more information about Salaam-Shalom at U.C. Berkeley, send
e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] encourage other campuses to follow
this path.

Published in The Daily Californian -Tuesday, June 18, 2002
http://www.dailycal.org/article.asp?id=8806

Group Finds Discourse on Middle East Conflict:
Students Emphasize 'Friends' to Build Relations

By EMMA SCHWARTZ
Contributing Writer

Amid shouts of hatred fueled by the Middle East conflict, one UC
Berkeley student group seeking to represent a variety of perspectives
calls for a dialogue of understanding.

Friends is a common buzzword for members of Salaam Shalom, a group
that aims to build peaceful relations between Israelis, Palestinians,
Arabs, and Jews on campus. People say dialogue is easy, but it's not
easy to tear your soul inside out, says group member Judy Gussman.
The group's first meeting, held at the end of the spring semester,
was at times heated as the group tried to make sense of violence
through open dialogue. It was a little tense, says Laura Haddad, a
Salaam Shalom member. But as someone at the meeting put it, if it
weren't a little tense we wouldn't have been getting anything done.
However, if we hadn't been friends first, we wouldn't have been able
to hold that discussion.

The group has yet to stage an open forum on serious issues
surrounding the conflict. For now, the students focus on forging
friendships between members. We haven't had a big discussion because
we believe we have to know each other first, Haddad says.
The first dialogue, which was just for the group organizers, asked
members what brought them to the group in an attempt to make the
discussion personal rather than political. It has involved a great
deal of soul-searching of things you were raised with, Gussman
says. They all have the ability to step back from that and look at
their world in a new way.

The group began as an attempt to add a peaceful perspective to the
campus debate on the Middle East conflict. I was distressed by two
things, says UC Berkeley graduate student Roger Studley. First,
there is a lack of any communication between people from different
camps and groups. Secondly, everything on campus is one group
shouting at another and shouting back. It's very political, noisy,
and nobody is sitting down and talking to one another.

Many members of the group joined out of frustration with the apparent
lack of dialogue between already existing groups who have a stake in
the conflict. I got involved because I noticed the intense
polarization on this issue, says Robin Baral, a UC Berkeley
student. I've been here long enough and involved in enough activism
to know what happens. I felt like the politics had gotten in the way
with people getting to know each other.

Haddad says the group offers an alternative route for those who don't
feel a place in either of the two major political groups, the
Students for Justice in Palestine and the Israel Action Committee.
Students say that while they have no illusions that they are going to
solve the conflict, they believe a resolution cannot be reached
without discussion.

We take seriously that it is important to understand someone else's
view as much as your own, Studley says. We believe that the first
thing you have to do is get to know an individual. Once you have
that, you are much less likely to shout and will be able to
understand someone's opinion with further complexity rather than as a
political stripe.

Students from Muslim and Jewish student groups said that Salaam
Shalom has great potential to clear up misunderstandings. I think
this 

FWD: truckersunite] To end the Israeli occupation [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]

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Hello everybody,This is a letter by Bishop Tutu, he won the nobel peace prize in the 1980's because he helped end apartheid in South Africa. We have a new apartheid going on and that is Israel, one in which the state cannot recognize the sovereignty of the people. SO they decide to build walls for security and not listen to the palestinian people and that gives way to extremism which has been rampant in the past few days. This is a lot like what is happening to the truckers, your voices are not being heard, we must stand in solidarity with the Palestinian people and start to let the companies know who profit off of the Israeli occupation we will no longer stand for it. The struggle for equality, fairness and justice extends beyond borders and the voices must be heardIn Solidarity,''Jim ArabyBuild moral pressure to end the occupationAn international campaignBy Desmond Tutu (IHT)Friday, June 14, 2002WASHINGTON: The end of apartheid stands as one of the crowningaccomplishments of the last century, but we would not have succeededwithout the help of international pressure. There is no greatertestament to the basic dignity of ordinary people everywhere than thedivestment movement of the 1980s.A similar movement has taken shape recently, this time aiming at an endto the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories. We should hopethat average citizens again rise to the occasion, since the obstacles toa renewed movement are surpassed only by its moral urgency.Divestment from apartheid South Africa was fought at the grass roots.Religious leaders informed their followers, union members pressuredtheir stockholders and consumers questioned their store-owners. Students played an especially important role by compelling universities to changetheir portfolios. Eventually, institutions pulled the financial plug,and the South African government thought twice about its policies.Moral and financial pressure is again being mustered one person at atime. In the United States, students at more than 40 campuses aredemanding a review of university investments. Europe faces effortsranging from consumer boycotts to arms embargoes.These tactics are not the only parallels to the struggle againstapartheid South Africa. Yesterday's township dwellers can tell you about today's life in the occupied territories. To travel only a few blocks in his own homeland, an elderly grandfather waits to beg for the whim of a teenage soldier. More than an emergency is required to get to ahospital; less than a crime earns a trip to jail.The lucky ones have a permit to leave their squalor to work in thecities, but luck runs out when security closes all checkpoints,paralyzing an entire people. The indignities, dependence and anger areall too familiar.I am not the first South African to recognize the chilly reminder ofwhat we just left.Ronnie Kasrils and Max Ozinsky, two Jewish heroes of the anti-apartheidstruggle, recently published a letter titled "Not in My Name." Signed by several hundred other prominent Jewish South Africans, the letter drew an explicit analogy between apartheid and current Israeli policies.The writer Mark Mathabane and former President Nelson Mandela have alsopointed out the relevance of the South African experience to the current conflict.To criticize the occupation is not to overlook Israel's uniquestrengths, just as protesting the Vietnam War did not imply ignoring the distinct freedoms and humanitarian accomplishments of the United States.
In a region where repressive governments and unjust policies are thenorm, Israel is certainly more democratic than most of its neighbors.This does not make dismantling the settlements any less of a priority.Divestment from apartheid South Africa was certainly no less justifiedeven though there was repression elsewhere on the African continent.Aggression is no more palatable at the hands of a democratic power.Territorial ambition is equally illegal whether it occurs in slowmotion, as with the Israeli settlers in the occupied territories, or inblitzkrieg fashion, as with the Iraqi tanks in Kuwait.Almost instinctively, the Jewish people have always been on the side ofthe voiceless. In their history, there is painful memory of massiveround-ups, house demolitions and collective punishment. In theirscripture, there is acute empathy for the disenfranchised. Theoccupation represents a dangerous and selective amnesia of thepersecution from which these traditions were born.Not everyone has forgotten, including some within the military. Thegrowing Israeli refusenik movement evokes the small anti-conscriptiondrive which helped turn the tide in apartheid South Africa. Severalhundred decorated Israeli officers have refused to perform militaryservice in the occupied territories. Those individuals not already inprison have taken their message on the road to 

Killing is legal if you are white or *AMERICAN* !!!! [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]

2002-06-24 Thread mart-remote




Date:
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Subject:
Killing is legal if you are white or American.

Killing is legal if you are white or
American. Otherwise, it is illegal

U.S. demands exemption for U.S. soldiers
before the International Criminal Court.

Britain and France also seek exemptions for their
soldiers serving as peacekeepers in Afghanistan.


Globe and Mail, June 22, 2002 – Page A16 


Canada, other allies blast immunity push
Bush administration wants peacekeepers
shielded from prosecutions of war crimes


By PAUL KORING

WASHINGTON -- Washington's efforts to shield U.S. soldiers on UN 
peacekeeping missions from being hauled before the International
Criminal Court are opposed by Canada and other U.S. allies.

"We urge the Security Council to reject the U.S. proposals," Foreign 
Affairs spokeswoman Nancy Bergeron said yesterday in Ottawa as U.S. diplomats 
at the United Nations attempted to win support for a resolution giving their 
soldiers blanket immunity from war-crimes charges.

Fears that U.S. President George W. Bush's administration will recall 
its peacekeepers in the Balkans and elsewhere eased yesterday when a vote 
on renewing the Bosnian civil-police mandate was deferred. But the issue 
seems likely to bedevil relations between Washington and its closest allies, 
with Mr. Bush's government seeking military help in its war against 
international terrorism at the same time it demands that U.S. soldiers receive 
special treatment by the international court.

Washington has also asked the governments of Bosnia and East Timor to 
grant U.S. peacekeeping personnel exemption from prosecution, which host 
countries are allowed to do under the treaty creating the court.

Britain and France, strong proponents of the court, also have sought 
exemptions for their soldiers serving as peacekeepers in Afghanistan, 
part of a profusion of double standards and exemptions threatening to 
overshadow the court, to be based at The Hague, the Netherlands.

(The court officially comes into being on July 1, but it isn't expected 
to be operating until next year.)

It remains unclear why countries need exemptions if they are willing to 
prosecute their own soldiers for alleged crimes.

The treaty establishing the court gives signatories the primary right 
to prosecute if they are "able and willing."

But senior U.S. officials said that they fear the court might attempt 
to enforce jurisdiction.

"We ought to be exempt from that so there isn't that kind of political 
harassment that can take place unfairly, particularly when you know 
you're fighting the global war on terror," U.S. Defence Secretary Donald 
Rumsfeld said yesterday.

Ottawa, a staunch supporter of the ICC, believes that no Canadian 
troops would face prosecution, because they would first face criminal or 
disciplinary procedures under Canadian military justice.

"I'm confident [that] in the case of any actions that were improper in 
military matters, any of our troops would be prosecuted by our own 
courts," Foreign Minister Bill Graham recently said.

Mr. Bush's administration, by comparison, is waging a three-pronged 
assault against the International Criminal Court, the first permanent tribunal 
to prosecute war crimes, including that of genocide.

First, it renounced former U.S. president Bill Clinton's signature on 
the treaty.
Then it sought specific exemptions from countries hosting UN 
peacekeeping missions where U.S. personnel are serving.

Finally, it has drafted a UN Security Council resolution that would 
grant U.S. troops immunity from prosecution by the ICC while serving on UN 
missions.

The Security Council resolution won't be considered until later this 
month, but it is expected to face stiff opposition.

Three of the five permanent Security Council member states -- Britain, 
France and Russia -- have signed the ICC treaty. The fourth, China, has 
yet to sign but has opposed a U.S. exemption.

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2002-06-24 Thread mart-remote




Date:
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To:




From:
"Bob Olsen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]|Block Address |Add to Address Book



Subject:
Killing is legal if you are white or American.

Killing is legal if you are white or
American. Otherwise, it is illegal

U.S. demands exemption for U.S. soldiers
before the International Criminal Court.

Britain and France also seek exemptions for their
soldiers serving as peacekeepers in Afghanistan.


Globe and Mail, June 22, 2002 – Page A16 


Canada, other allies blast immunity push
Bush administration wants peacekeepers
shielded from prosecutions of war crimes


By PAUL KORING

WASHINGTON -- Washington's efforts to shield U.S. soldiers on UN 
peacekeeping missions from being hauled before the International
Criminal Court are opposed by Canada and other U.S. allies.

"We urge the Security Council to reject the U.S. proposals," Foreign 
Affairs spokeswoman Nancy Bergeron said yesterday in Ottawa as U.S. diplomats 
at the United Nations attempted to win support for a resolution giving their 
soldiers blanket immunity from war-crimes charges.

Fears that U.S. President George W. Bush's administration will recall 
its peacekeepers in the Balkans and elsewhere eased yesterday when a vote 
on renewing the Bosnian civil-police mandate was deferred. But the issue 
seems likely to bedevil relations between Washington and its closest allies, 
with Mr. Bush's government seeking military help in its war against 
international terrorism at the same time it demands that U.S. soldiers receive 
special treatment by the international court.

Washington has also asked the governments of Bosnia and East Timor to 
grant U.S. peacekeeping personnel exemption from prosecution, which host 
countries are allowed to do under the treaty creating the court.

Britain and France, strong proponents of the court, also have sought 
exemptions for their soldiers serving as peacekeepers in Afghanistan, 
part of a profusion of double standards and exemptions threatening to 
overshadow the court, to be based at The Hague, the Netherlands.

(The court officially comes into being on July 1, but it isn't expected 
to be operating until next year.)

It remains unclear why countries need exemptions if they are willing to 
prosecute their own soldiers for alleged crimes.

The treaty establishing the court gives signatories the primary right 
to prosecute if they are "able and willing."

But senior U.S. officials said that they fear the court might attempt 
to enforce jurisdiction.

"We ought to be exempt from that so there isn't that kind of political 
harassment that can take place unfairly, particularly when you know 
you're fighting the global war on terror," U.S. Defence Secretary Donald 
Rumsfeld said yesterday.

Ottawa, a staunch supporter of the ICC, believes that no Canadian 
troops would face prosecution, because they would first face criminal or 
disciplinary procedures under Canadian military justice.

"I'm confident [that] in the case of any actions that were improper in 
military matters, any of our troops would be prosecuted by our own 
courts," Foreign Minister Bill Graham recently said.

Mr. Bush's administration, by comparison, is waging a three-pronged 
assault against the International Criminal Court, the first permanent tribunal 
to prosecute war crimes, including that of genocide.

First, it renounced former U.S. president Bill Clinton's signature on 
the treaty.
Then it sought specific exemptions from countries hosting UN 
peacekeeping missions where U.S. personnel are serving.

Finally, it has drafted a UN Security Council resolution that would 
grant U.S. troops immunity from prosecution by the ICC while serving on UN 
missions.

The Security Council resolution won't be considered until later this 
month, but it is expected to face stiff opposition.

Three of the five permanent Security Council member states -- Britain, 
France and Russia -- have signed the ICC treaty. The fourth, China, has 
yet to sign but has opposed a U.S. exemption.

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Young soldiers desert Russian army in droves [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]

2002-06-24 Thread Steve Wagner

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Last Updated Sun, 23 Jun 2002 23:47:59 

Young soldiers desert Russian army in droves
 
MOSCOW - Humiliated and brutalized by violent hazing and sexual abuse,
young men conscripted into Russia's army are running away in record
numbers. 

  Last week, the military executed two more deserters who had fled
their base in southern Russia. Authorities said the men went on a
rampage and killed two police officers. 

  According to Moscow, about 5,000 soldiers run away every year. But
Soldiers' Mothers, an organization that defends the rights of military
personnel, believes the figure is closer to 40,000. 

  Some of them, they are just ordinary young people who are leaving
the army because they are afraid for their lives, says Ida Kuklina,
who speaks for the group. 

  Most of the deserters are young conscripts, many just 18, who can't
stand the torture and sexual abuse that is rampant in the ranks, she
says. Their stories are recounted in letters that are piled on her
desk. 

  Anna Fedeeva's son Alexei, for instance, ran away from his barracks
and lived on the streets in Moscow because he couldn't stand it any
longer. She eventually found him, sick and confused. He's now in a
psychiatric hospital. 

  He left because he was beaten with metal objects, she says. Now I
don't know what's going to happen to him, but his life is broken. 

  The abuse, combined with budget problems that leave soldiers poorly
equipped and badly paid, has plunged morale in the military. 

  The conditions are appalling, says military analyst Pavel
Fengelhauer. The food is terrible. It's like a prison, but the inmates
have guns. 

  After turning 18, all men in Russia must serve two years in the
military. To try to reduce desertions and violence, the country's
parliament has approved a bill to give recruits the option of community
service instead. 

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Re: Killing is legal if you are white or *AMERICAN* !!!! [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]

2002-06-24 Thread Charles

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Folks,

[I never really believed that agents like the fictituous James Bond could
ever have a license to kill which is recognised outside their own respective
countries. Well, now US soldiers are being give a license to kill]

Charles

 Date:Sat, 22 Jun 2002 19:24:14 -0400To:From:Bob Olsen
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BookSubject:Killing is legal if you are white or American.

 Killing is legal if you are white orAmerican. Otherwise, it is illegalU.S.
demands exemption for U.S. soldiersbefore the International Criminal
Court.Britain and France also seek exemptions for theirsoldiers serving as
peacekeepers in Afghanistan.Globe and Mail, June 22, 2002 - Page A16 Canada,
other allies blast immunity pushBush administration wants
peacekeepersshielded from prosecutions of war crimesBy PAUL
KORINGWASHINGTON -- Washington's efforts to shield U.S. soldiers on UN
peacekeeping missions from being hauled before the InternationalCriminal
Court are opposed by Canada and other U.S. allies.We urge the Security
Council to reject the U.S. proposals, Foreign Affairs spokeswoman Nancy
Bergeron said yesterday in Ottawa as U.S. diplomats at the United Nations
attempted to win support for a resolution giving their soldiers blanket
immunity from war-crimes charges.Fears that U.S. President George W. Bush's
administration will recall its peacekeepers in the Balkans and e!
  lsewhere eased yesterday when a vote on renewing the Bosnian civil-police
mandate was deferred. But the issue seems likely to bedevil relations
between Washington and its closest allies, with Mr. Bush's government
seeking military help in its war against international terrorism at the same
time it demands that U.S. soldiers receive special treatment by the
international court.Washington has also asked the governments of Bosnia and
East Timor to grant U.S. peacekeeping personnel exemption from prosecution,
which host countries are allowed to do under the treaty creating the
court.Britain and France, strong proponents of the court, also have sought
exemptions for their soldiers serving as peacekeepers in Afghanistan, part
of a profusion of double standards and exemptions threatening to overshadow
the court, to be based at The Hague, the Netherlands.(The court officially
comes into being on July 1, but it isn't expected to be operating until next
year.)It remains unclear why c!
  ountries need exemptions if they are willing to prosecute their own so
 ldiers for alleged crimes.The treaty establishing the court gives
signatories the primary right to prosecute if they are able and
willing.But senior U.S. officials said that they fear the court might
attempt to enforce jurisdiction.We ought to be exempt from that so there
isn't that kind of political harassment that can take place unfairly,
particularly when you know you're fighting the global war on terror, U.S.
Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said yesterday.Ottawa, a staunch supporter
of the ICC, believes that no Canadian troops would face prosecution, because
they would first face criminal or disciplinary procedures under Canadian
military justice.I'm confident [that] in the case of any actions that were
improper in military matters, any of our troops would be prosecuted by our
own courts, Foreign Minister Bill Graham recently said.Mr. Bush's
administration, by comparison, is waging a three-pronged assault against the
International Criminal Court, the first perman!
  ent tribunal to prosecute war crimes, including that of genocide.First,
it renounced former U.S. president Bill Clinton's signature on the
treaty.Then it sought specific exemptions from countries hosting UN
peacekeeping missions where U.S. personnel are serving.Finally, it has
drafted a UN Security Council resolution that would grant U.S. troops
immunity from prosecution by the ICC while serving on UN missions.The
Security Council resolution won't be considered until later this month, but
it is expected to face stiff opposition.Three of the five permanent Security
Council member states -- Britain, France and Russia -- have signed the ICC
treaty. The fourth, China, has yet to sign but has opposed a U.S.
exemption.© 2002 Bell Globemedia Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved.
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Part 2: Is Talk About Revolution Real--How Could Revolution Come About in the U.

2002-06-24 Thread poblachtach dearg
Part 2: Is Talk About Revolution Real--How Could Revolution Come About in the U.S.?
Bob Avakian Speaks Out, Interviewed by Carl Dix
On War and Revolution, On Being a Revolutionary and Changing the World
Revolutionary Worker #1156, June 23, 2002, posted at rwor.org
In heavy times like these, the people require extraordinary things to help prepare them for the challenges we face. What follows is truly extraordinary, something that will help arm those who want to take on the U.S. rulers' juggernaut of war and repression with the kind of understanding they need to deal with these times--the immediate challenges in front of us and a whole lot more involved in changing the world. The Revolutionary Worker is beginning the publication of an important interview with Bob Avakian, the leader of the Revolutionary Communist Party..




I had the honor of doing this interview with him in early 2002. Going into it, I knew there were burning questions many people would've wanted to put to him if they had the chance. They had been putting those kinds of questions to me when I went out there around the Party's Draft Programme or got down with people around the "war without limits" the U.S. imperialist ruling class has unleashed on the world. I was going to have the responsibility, and the opportunity, to put these questions to him for them.




Doing this was intense. It was hard, and it was fun. I hadn't had a chance to get into it with Bob Avakian like this for quite a while. He was the same "fired man" (to borrow a term from Peter Tosh) who had provided crucial leadership for the revolutionary movement at key junctures so many times in the past. He was right on top of what was going down in the U.S. and around the world. And he had the same boundless enthusiasm to dig into world historic questions concerning the process of proletarian revolution. We spent the several days doing the interview, getting into everything from the current situation to the role of religion to what sustains him as a veteran revolutionary leader. And then, when we finished our work, we went deep into the night talking about basketball, movies and more.




I hope those who read this interview get as much out of it, and enjoy it as much, as I did in the process of doing it.




Carl Dix




The Revolutionary Worker is very excited to present to our readers this interview and exchange between Bob Avakian, Chairman of the Revolutionary Communist Party, and Carl Dix, national spokesman of the RCP.




In coming weeks, the many different subjects covered in this important and wide-ranging interview will be made available. This week is Part 2. Part 1--"The New Situation--The `War on Terrorism'"--appeared in last week's issue and is available online at rwor.org. A number of additional segments will be coming soon in the RW. In the future, the complete interview will also be published, made available online, etc.




The transcript has been slightly edited for publication.

Carl Dix: Okay, I think you've opened up a very big and important topic and one that when you raise it to people--and I'm talking about a lot of different kinds of people, I'm talking about proletarians, people in the ghettos and barrios, I'm talking about people in more privileged positions in the middle class in society who see all this coming down and understand that there's something very fundamental wrong. And some of them approach this with a more hopeful approach, some with a more pessimistic approach, but across the board it's pretty much questioning like, revolution, how could something like that come about? How could a situation within which you could really make a try for revolution come down? I wonder if you could speak to that some?
Bob Avakian: Well, I think we've always recognized that there are two essential factors or elements that go into making a revolutionary situation. This is one way to understand it anyway. One, there have to be the objective conditions. There have to be things happening in society and in the world and in the way in which things all over the world are impacting within a particular society that ripens the conditions which call into question the right and ability of the ruling class to continue ruling--things which call forth massive resistance and opposition and turmoil and upheaval and volatility throughout the society and which raise, as I said, fundamental questions about the whole direction of society. That's one thing that has to happen, and this can come out of many different places. Obviously, it can come out of the warfare that's waged by the imperialists internationally and the repercussions of that. It can come out of economic crisis. It can come out of internal conflicts within the ruling class, although generally those arise sharply in response to more fundamental things and more fundamental difficulties that their system is running into in pursuing its interests through warfare or other means, in the U.S. itself or in other 

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WASHINGTON-The American senate has agreed with a new law that under
circumstances authorises an invasion of Holland. The invasion could be
necaserry if the International Court of Law in Den Haag helds Americans
prisoner who are suspected of warcrimes.

The attackplans at Den Haag are a part of the "Law Protection of
Americans
in military service" (ASPA). This Law has to undermine the international
court of law and later prevent that there will be americans trialed,
according to a representative of the International Organization that has
the
goal of establishing the international court of law in Den Haag, the ICC
in
New York.

According to the in New York established ICC, the senate has Thursday
night
made a change in the bill so that it is not completely finished. The
bill
has to be shown again at the senate and the house of representatives.

Prohibiton on ICC

Other points from the bill are a legal prohibition on cooperation with
the
ICC, immunity for American soldiers that take part of peace missions and
special presadential protection for those soldiers. The bill also
prohibits
military support for those who have signed the treaty of ICC, except for
Nato countries and special allies and Taiwan.

According to the ICC the American government is trying with everything
they
have to undermine the international court of law. The US would also have
pressured the countries who have signed for the treaty, or will sign,
with
financial pressure.


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circumstances authorises an invasion of Holland. The invasion could be
necaserry if the International Court of Law in Den Haag helds Americans
prisoner who are suspected of warcrimes.

The attackplans at Den Haag are a part of the Law Protection of
Americans
in military service (ASPA). This Law has to undermine the international
court of law and later prevent that there will be americans trialed,
according to a representative of the International Organization that has
the
goal of establishing the international court of law in Den Haag, the ICC
in
New York.

According to the in New York established ICC, the senate has Thursday
night
made a change in the bill so that it is not completely finished. The
bill
has to be shown again at the senate and the house of representatives.

Prohibiton on ICC

Other points from the bill are a legal prohibition on cooperation with
the
ICC, immunity for American soldiers that take part of peace missions and
special presadential protection for those soldiers. The bill also
prohibits
military support for those who have signed the treaty of ICC, except for
Nato countries and special allies and Taiwan.

According to the ICC the American government is trying with everything
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Editorial: Bush's 'democracy' [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]

2002-06-24 Thread Barry Stoller

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So.

'Peace requires a new and different Palestinian leader so that a
Palestinian state can be born, Bush declared' in tonight's speech (AP,
24 June 2002, 'Bush Mideast Policy Sets Tough Conditions Palestinians
May Be Unable to Meet').

Not surprising, 'Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's office endorsed
Bush's approach, saying in a statement that when the Palestinian
Authority undergoes genuine reforms and a new leadership takes its place
at its head ... it will be possible to discuss ways of moving forward by
diplomatic means' (ibid.).

This whole approach has been in the works for a little while. As usual,
Sharon leaked it in advance...

'Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has urged the United States and other
nations to appoint an interim Palestinian government... established even
against the Palestinians' wishes, the Yediot Ahronot daily reported
Thursday.

'The free world must force this government on the Palestinians, the
daily quoted him as saying' (AP, 16 May 2002, Sharon: the International
Community Must Appoint Interim Palestinian Government).

Let's take a closer look at this example of 'forced' democracy...

'Dozens of angry delegates walked out of Afghanistan's grand assembly on
Wednesday, saying they were not being consulted, as... [t]he Loya Jirga,
a traditional Afghan parliament, is expected to vote later on a new
president with Hamid Karzai, interim leader and favorite of the United
States, the sole candidate' (Reuters, 12 June 2002, 'Afghan Delegates
Walk Out in Protest Over Vote').

The 'sole candidate,' take note.

Then...

'Afghan President Hamid Karzai, facing a grand council that made little
progress in choosing the country's government, said Monday he will
select his own Cabinet and that time had run out for delegates to choose
a new parliament' (AP, 17 June 2002, Afghan leader says he will appoint
own Cabinet because loya jirga missed deadline).

Funny, the US considers this sort of thing a real no-no in Cuba...

Not in other places, though. Anyone remember Guatemala, 1954? Chile,
1973? Nicaragua in the '80s?

Here's the deal. Democracy doesn't exist.

Oh, sure, there's a spot of it here and maybe there, just like in good
old Rome -- but it's always smaller than the whole sum of people
involved in materially creating it.

We've got democracy for the manor but not for the field hands.

Democracy, meaning here the ideological facade in front of a particular
system of production relations, is always opposed to actually letting
its enemies get a vote, too; hell, this sort of truly inclusive
democracy just might vote itself (meaning that particular system of
production relations) right out of existence.

So we get these puppet 'democracies' all over the place. Latin America,
South Pacific, Africa, you name it, like big fat ugly mushrooms on a
rainy day.

Will this happen to the Palestinians, as well?

Personally, I doubt it. They seem to have a bit more spine than other
oppressed people preceding them in the struggle against colonialism.



. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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Toxic Nazi legacy threatens Europe [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]

2002-06-24 Thread Steve Wagner

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from
The Sunday Herald
Scotland

http://www.sundayherald.com/25477

Toxic Nazi legacy threatens Europe

Concern as German chemical weapons dumped off Danish
coast by Britain after the second world war start
leaking into seas

By Rob Edwards, Environment Correspondent

  More than half a century ago, Britain dumped over
100,000 tonnes of the Nazi's deadly chemical weapons
in the sea. Now they are coming back to haunt us.
Scientists fear millions of ancient shells and bombs
resting on the short stretch of seabed between Denmark
and Norway have begun to leak their lethal payload.
Danish fishermen have been injured, Norway has
launched an investigation and coastal authorities are
worried a 'historic time bomb' could be about to
explode.

  The Sunday Herald has obtained a copy of a report by
the Ministry of Defence which details for the first
time the extraordinary scale of the postwar operation
to get rid of Germany's chemical weapons. Between 1945
and 1947, at least 112,000 tonnes were loaded into 33
German boats, which were then scuttled in Skagerrak,
the strait across the North Sea that separates Norway
and Denmark.

  The chemicals, confiscated from Hitler's Third Reich
at the end of the second world war, were mustard gas,
phosgene, tabun and lewisite, all of which can inflict
appalling injuries. They may also have included
hydrocyanic acid and Cyclone B, two of the poisons
used to murder millions of Jews in Nazi concentration
camps.

  Before they were packed into the hulls of ships, the
weapons were put into wicker baskets by German
workers. The hope was that any chemicals that leaked
out would be absorbed by the wicker, and prevented
from contaminating the sea.

  That may have been a false hope, however. An
expedition to Skagerrak by Russian scientists has
discovered evidence that the weapons -- sometimes only
two hundreds metres deep -- are falling apart and
spilling their contents into the marine environment.

  The investigation by the Russian Academy of Science
in St Petersburg found levels of arsenic up to 200
parts per million around one of the dump sites. This
was 'extremely high', they said, and was probably due
to arsenic leaching from corroding weapons.

  They also detected high concentrations of lead and
other heavy metals. The weapons could poison fishermen
who pulled them up from the seabed, were a target for
terrorists and posed 'a large danger to the
environment', the Russian scientists warned.

  'It is a terrible menace for Europeans,' said Albert
Bikmullin, from the International Ecological
Parliament, a Russian environmental group. 'Poison
gas, dissolving slowly in the water, is able to
pollute vast areas and get into food chains.'

  He added: 'Plankton absorbs poison gas very easily,
is mutated and gets into fish as a food. Fish, in
their turn, get to carnivores and in this way poison
gets into a man's meal.'

  The Russian government has formally approached NATO,
seeking support for a programme to monitor and prevent
leakages from the chemical dumps. But NATO, which is
considering the request through its Committee on the
Challenges of Modern Society, has not yet decided what
to do.

  Meanwhile the Norwegian Pollution Control Authority
has just begun its own investigation, which involves
sending a remote-controlled mini-sub marine to the
seabed to take pictures and samples. 'We have to keep
it under control to make sure that it doesn't harm
people,' said Hilde Keilen, the authority's senior
executive officer.

  Danish studies have suggested that over 150
fishermen have accidentally brought up chemical
munitions in their nets. In some cases, they have been
burnt by leaking mustard gas, which, despite its name,
is a thick, viscous liquid.

  KIMO, an organisation which brings together over 100
local authorities representing five million people
around the coasts of northern Europe, is planning a
Scottish conference on chemical dumps at sea this
November. Due to take place in Ayr, it is entitled
Time Bombs From The Past.

  'We are increasingly concerned about the historic
time bomb which is ticking away at over 80 dump sites
in northern seas. We are asking governments to
investigate the exact locations of chemical and
conventional weapons dump sites, compile inventories
and make this information available,' said KIMO's Rick
Nickerson.

  'These materials are increasingly washing up on our
coasts and endangering fishermen at sea. It is
important that a clear picture is obtained of the
state of these dumps so that appropriate action can be
taken if and when a site becomes a problem.'

  The cause has been taken up by the Labour MP for
Glasgow Baillieston, Jimmy Wray. He has put down an
motion in the House of Commons calling on the British
government to combat the pollution from the sunken
ships, and has been backed by 28 other MPs.

  'It is important that this kind of pollution is
dealt with soon. These ships have been 

Re: Were Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies? [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]

2002-06-24 Thread davidquarter

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  Of course. They save the Mossad the trouble. Hence, they
identify 'the culprits' and the Mossad does the killing.

David O Q

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Comrades,

 David O Q asked:-

   What are you getting at?
  David O Q

 Whether the bourgeois/imperialist media deliberately set out to protect
 their identities. It's curious why I haven't seen even one picture of these
 art students etc when I've seen too many pictures of alleged Arab
 terrorists, shoe bombers, dirty bombers, etc.

 Charles

 
 
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   Comrades,
  
   An interesting thing is I've yet to see a picture of even one of the 50
 or
   60 Israeli art students and these guys.
  
   Charles
  
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   In a message dated 6/21/2002 11:29:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  
  Is this the entire article?
  
   No.
  
   The White Van
   Were Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies?
  
  
   June 21 †Millions saw the horrific images of the World Trade Center
   attacks,
   and those who saw them won't forget them. But a New Jersey homemaker saw
   something that morning that prompted an investigation into five young
   Israelis and their possible connection to Israeli intelligence.
  
  
   Maria, who asked us not to use her last name, had a view of the World
 Trade
   Center from her New Jersey apartment building. She remembers a neighbor
   calling her shortly after the first plane hit the towers.She grabbed her
   binoculars and watched the destruction unfolding in lower Manhattan. But
 as
   she watched the disaster, something else caught her eye.Maria says she
 saw
   three young men kneeling on the roof of a white van in the parking lot
 of
   her
   apartment building. They seemed to be taking a movie, Maria said.The
 men
   were taking video or photos of themselves with the World Trade Center
   burning
   in the background, she said. What struck Maria were the expressions on
 the
   men's faces. They were like happy, you know … They didn't look
 shocked to
   me. I thought it was very strange, she said. She found the behavior so
   suspicious that she wrote down the license plate number of the van and
   called
   the police. Before long, the FBI was also on the scene, and a statewide
   bulletin was issued on the van. The plate number was traced to a van
 owned
   by
   a company called Urban Moving. Around 4 p.m. on Sept. 11, the van was
   spotted
   on a service road off Route 3, near New Jersey's Giants Stadium. A
 police
   officer pulled the van over, finding five men, between 22 and 27 years
 old,
   in the vehicle. The men were taken out of the van at gunpoint and
 handcuffed
   by police. The arresting officers said they saw a lot that aroused their
   suspicion about the men. One of the passengers had $4,700 in cash hidden
 in
   his sock. Another was carrying two foreign passports. A box cutter was
 found
   in the van. But perhaps the biggest surprise for the officers came when
 the
   five men identified themselves as Israeli citizens. â€~We Are Not Your
 Problem
   â€T
   According to the police report, one of the passengers told the officers
 they
   had been on the West Side Highway in Manhattan during the incident â€
   referring to the World Trade Center attack. The driver of the van, Sivan
   Kurzberg, told the officers, We are Israeli. We are not your problem.
 Your
   problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem. The other
   passengers were his brother Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and
   Omer
   Marmari. When the men were transferred to jail, the case was transferred
 out
   of the FBI's Criminal Division, and into the bureau's Foreign
   Counterintelligence Section, which is responsible for espionage cases,
   ABCNEWS has learned. One reason for the shift, sources told ABCNEWS, was
   that
   the FBI believed Urban Moving may have been providing cover for an
 Israeli
   intelligence operation. After the five men were arrested, the FBI got a
   warrant and searched Urban Moving's Weehawken, N.J., offices. The FBI
   

RE: A CRITICAL VIEW FROM ISRAEL [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]

2002-06-24 Thread davidquarter

Gee. And I thought the media was pro-Israeli! ...I guess i'm just too  gullible for my own good.


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aram>HREF="HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK"HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK --- ,,8000am>Nope,

I haven't spent much time looking at Hanoch Marmari's  stuff, but from what I've seen, I'd say Hanoch Marmari hit  the nail on the head.
Miroslav

Distortion of Facts EXAMPLE: In reporting on  violence of Joseph's Tomb, CNN writes: 
Meanwhile, ahave died during several fierce clashes at Joseph's Tomb during the past week. The lone Israeli soldier to die during the clashes bled to death in the tomb as  rescuers tried for hours to reach him.
EXAMPLE: The New York Times, Associated Press and  other major media outlets published a photo of a young man  -- bloodied and battered -- crouching beneath a club- wielding Israeli policeman. The caption identified him as a  Palestinian victim of the recent riots -- with the clear  implication that the Israeli soldier is the one who beat him. 
In fact, the bloodied "Palestinian" depicted in the photograph  was Tuvia Grossman, a 20-year-old Jewish student from  Chicago, studying in Jerusalem. And the assailants were  not Israelis, but members of a Palestinian mob who beat  and stabbed Grossman mercilessly for 10 minutes. And the  infuriated Israeli policeman with a baton was deterring the  Palestinians from finishing their lynching.
Media bias assumes that if there's a victim, it must be a  Palestinian. Yet who are the real victims and who are the  aggressors? The truth is often the opposite of how it  appears.
By being astute media observers, we can make a  difference. In response to public pressure, The New York  Times reprinted Tuvia Grossman's picture -- this time with  the proper caption -- along with a full article detailing his  near-lynching at the hands of Palestinians rioters.
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Abu Ali family; the media reporteddeath of their nine children, and it was later revealed  that no harm befell them. Says Marmari:
  I've been following the news and I never read any  report about nine children in one family being  killed. Can you share the story with us?